Bharat Rakshak

boss, we know what she stands for quite well, you are preaching to the choir.

i am a newcomer but an oldtime follower the forum. I am concerned about this hypocricy and the sham that is being spilt and wanted to update you on the latest avenues where she is doing it. countercurrents, mainstream and a US channel. And also other maoist posion like indianvanguard, springthunder vodpod, naxalrebelblogspot and tamiltribune.com[an armed revolution for the tamils] which are against the very idea of India. The home ministry is in a deep state of slumber and does not seem to bother to shut these sites down?

rohitvats wrote:Clamour to let army fight Maoists rises- Bengal, only state with military experience, adds voice to chorus

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090927/j ... 546415.jsp

excerpts from the article:

The CPM in Bengal has joined an increasing chorus from the states to deploy the military as the Centre shapes a shotgun strategy counter-Maoist offensive. Ironically enough, Bengal was the first — and remains the only — state in which the army was deployed against Naxalites since the uprising in Naxalbari (1967) spawned thousands of Maoists who now claim influence over a quarter of the country. Despite the clamour for the army, Union home minister P. Chidambaram said even yesterday during a tour of Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand: “There is no proposal to involve the army in anti-Naxal operations.” But three days back in New Delhi, Chidambaram had said in two separate meetings, that if need be, the special forces of the army would be called upon to lend their muscle to the offensive he is now shaping.

--I think what is being done is the to identify an external target for the Maoists. Something, which is clearly identified as representative of Government of India and gives more breathing space to the State Government.

--The involvement of local troops, like Eastern Frontier Rifles (EFR) and police force, creates problem for the CPM and associated parties. In case of casualties of local troops, like happened in case of EFR, there will be blow back. They after all, come from the same society. Also, the State Government ( of Bengal) cannot blame it's own troops for HR Violations. It is difficult to adopt the Paki strategy of 'running with hares and hunting with hounds" when involved in anti-Maoist operations as the main party.

--By involving IA, the CPM cadre can hold morchas on HR violations and associated tactics. Plus, it raises the conflict to a different level all together. If tomorrow, IA asks for AFSPA in troubled areas (which will be necessary), you can expect the high decibel levels from the usual quarters.

The IA has clearly expressed it's unhappiness about being involved in anti naxal ops. The Bengal govt seems particularly unwilling to deploy it's own politicized forces against the naxals due to the forth coming state elections.

http://www.stratpost.com/rashtriya-rifl ... -army-wary

Rashtriya Rifles against Naxals: Army wary
Monday, August 17, 2009
By Saurabh Joshi


The idea of deploying the Rashtriya Rifles in anti-Naxal operations has the army feeling uncomfortable. While so far, the army has been training paramilitary forces in defusing Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs), tactics and field medical aid and also preparing to set up a sub-area in the region, it has been wary of deploying its own troops for combating Naxals.

But the Ministry of Home Affairs may ask for the deployment of Rashtriya Rifles in a meeting on Monday in the states of Orissa, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand and Bihar. Since the Rashtriya Rifles have only been deployed in Jammu and Kashmir so far, the army feels and redeployment may have an adverse impact on the effective strength of security forces in the state.

chetak wrote:.....<SNIP>But the Ministry of Home Affairs may ask for the deployment of Rashtriya Rifles in a meeting on Monday in the states of Orissa, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand and Bihar. Since the Rashtriya Rifles have only been deployed in Jammu and Kashmir so far, the army feels and redeployment may have an adverse impact on the effective strength of security forces in the state.

I guess, since MHA pays for RR, they somehow feel entitled to ask for deployment of RR in the ant-maoist operations.

I guess, since MHA pays for RR, they somehow feel entitled to ask for deployment of RR in the ant-maoist operations.

But MoD would have a say (maybe even a veto) on the matter though.

Hari Seldon wrote:

I guess, since MHA pays for RR, they somehow feel entitled to ask for deployment of RR in the ant-maoist operations.

But MoD would have a say (maybe even a veto) on the matter though.

Theoritically, yes...as the troops are from Army. But God know, logic and better sense has always been sacrificed at the altar of political expediency.

With a "hot summer" predicted in J&K forcing even the token troop cuts to be stopped, doubt that there are any RR left spare for hinterland ops.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/606 ... alary.html

In an attempt to attract more unemployed youths into their armed fight, the Maoists have started shelling out Rs 3,000 to each of their cadre as salary and a cut of the extortion money.

The extremists extort money to the tune of Rs 1,400 crore annually as they operate in mineral-rich areas where hundreds of industries are located. Due to fear of attacks and in return of security from the Maoists, many of the industries, businessman, contractors and even some government officials in the Maoist-affected territories give extortion money to them.

latest rumours say bigK is probably not dead but wounded. a email threat has been sent to Orissa CM asking
him to call off Ghunt or else.

hopefully he will pass away from lack of medical care if the pressure and encirclement of the area is kept up.
all doctors and nursing homes in region need to be kept under strict watch as also maoist-friendly nursing homes
in big cities of the region, including kolkata. it is known ulfa leaders needing big treatment used to visit kolkata
and mumbai...

if he is cornered there will be major bigtime campaign by cells in the media to call off Ghunt on the reason
the security forces are oppressing tribals, burning villages, raping people, stealing food and so on...

so let us watch which way the wind blows....

in meantime, in a unofficial capacity, army-SF should be unleashed into some small area if its known
some big fish are cornered. keep some mig27 ready with napalm also.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 737028.cms

Crackdown on Reds in Bihar
TNN, Mar 29, 2010, 05.49am IST


PATNA/RANCHI: Call it Operation Green Hunt, or give it any other name. The fact remains that security forces in Bihar have launched a massive crackdown on Maoists in the two districts of Gaya and Aurangabad.

Although the state government does not admit it, the CPI(Maoist) claim the operations are, indeed, part of Operation Green Hunt.

Senior police officials in the Bihar capital maintain that the massive deployment of CRPF and STF in the Maoist-affected areas in Gaya and Aurangabad districts is not part of Operation Green Hunt but routine operations conducted against the Red rebels by security forces.

Bihar IG (operations) K S Dwivedi categorically denied that Operation Green Hunt has been launched Bihar. "Yes, off course we are taking action against the Maoists for blowing up school buildings, disturbing GT Road and derailing the Rajdhani Express during Maoists-sponsored bandh, but this is certainly not Operation Green Hunt," he said.

ADG (headquarters) P K Thakur said police on Sunday busted a Maoist camp in Dhakanchua forest in Gaya near the state's border with Jharkhand and seized 50 kgs of explosives, one rifle, one pistol, 10 detonators, 250 bullets of SLRs, besides explosives and fuse wire.

The Maoists claimed that the Bihar police have launched an offensive against them on the same scale as Green Hunt launched along the Jharkhand-Bengal border. The banned outfit has claimed that the government of Bihar has finally succumbed to New Delhi's pressure by allowing security forces to launch operations in Gaya and Aurangabad as part of Operation Green Hunt.

Calling upon the police to refrain from targeting innocent villagers, spokesman of Madhya Zonal Committee of CPI(Maoist) Paramjeet said in Ranchi that security forces have encircled Dhakanchua and Lutua forests under Chhatarbagha Panchayat in Gaya district since Sunday morning and resorted to several rounds of mortar fire.

"We are repeatedly saying that none of the squad members are in the forests and innocent forest dwellers will fall prey if the police continued their operations," he said.
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Kishanji mystery deepens
TNN, Mar 29, 2010, 06.44am IST

BHUBANESWAR/RANCHI/KOLKATA: Where exactly is Kishanji? Has he been hit? Is he dead?

The conflicting possibilities sent police and intelligence officials of four states into a tizzy on Saturday and Sunday after an email landed in the inbox of Orissa chief minister Naveen Patnaik’s official ID suggesting that the elusive Maoist leader may have suffered bullet injuries in Friday’s gunbattle withsecurity forces in West Midnapore.

“Every bullet fired on Kishanji and Bikram alias Abhisek Mukherjee will cost a lot,” warned the mail, purportedly sent by the central military commission of People’s Liberation Guerrilla Army (PLGA).

Though there was no official confirmation on the health status and whereabouts of the top rebel, the mail — a copy of which is with TOI — reinforced police suspicions that Kishanji had indeed suffered bullet injuries while his close aide Bikram was shot dead.

A senior Bengal police officer said they had information about the mail, while top cops in Orissa said they were not sure about Kishanji’s latest status but suspected he was somewhere along the Bengal-Orissa border. Sources in Jharkhand police, too, said they had information Kishanji was injured on Friday.

Maoist field commander Bikash, who is overseeing the expansion of the Maoist base in Jangalmahal, was seriously injured in the encou-nter in Hathilot forest of Jangalm-ahal’s Lakhanpur on Thursday.

Late on Sunday, during a search operation in Belpahari’s Bhulabheda area, a body was recovered, unconfirmed sources said. In another late-night development, a Ghatsila doctor was asked if he had treated any injured Maoist leader.

CPI (Maoist) is yet to make a statement on the matter, with the mail — suspected to have been sent by the Maoists from an ID reading [email protected] — being the first communication that claimed bullets were fired at Kishanji.

“We have taken it most seriously and are investigating all possible aspects,” Bhubaneswar-Cuttack police commissioner B K Sharma said.

A police source said the Patnaik government was taking assistance from various agencies, including the Centre, to crack the case.

* 'Telegu Dipak had impersonated Kishenji'

STAFF WRITER 21:33 HRS IST

Kolkata, Mar 3 (PTI) Arrested Maoist leader Vekanteshwar Reddy alias Telugu Dipak, had impersonated Koteswar Rao alias Kishenji for a long period and also had links with the banned ULFA in Assam, CID sources said today.

"Dipak worked for a long time as Kisenji's dummy and could imitate his voice," CID sources told PTI.

Maoist documents, a pen drive and Rs 15,000 in cash were found in the possession of the 45-year-old Maoist leader who was arrested here last evening. A court today remanded him to 14 days in police custody.

The sources, however, claimed that Dipak was arrested from a jetty near Howrah and not Sarsuna in southern fringes of the metropolis as claimed by police earlier.

He had arrived from Mourigram via Midnapore and Jhargram in West Midnapore district yesterday and had planned to go to Lalgarh after spending three days at Sarsuna, the sources said.

I think madam is going to find this time, jetting to DC to depose in some 'congressional hearing' against
GOI is not going to cut much ice...

Kishenji appoints Roy mediator'

Latest on Kishenji (possibly with bullet wound)
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100329/j ... 276090.jsp

Yoga comes to Prachanda's aid

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/stor ... E7I/Vl8os=

WTF is going on?

Maoist leader Kishenji has named renowned cop-basher, a regular at the Capital’s grievance-mongering seminars, Arundhati Roy and rebel Trinamool Congress leader Kabir Suman, who flaunts his sympathies for the Red menace, as possible mediators for talks with the government.

Singha-sir,
A mainstream paper actually printed the bolded part?

sum wrote:

Maoist leader Kishenji has named renowned cop-basher, a regular at the Capital’s grievance-mongering seminars, Arundhati Roy and rebel Trinamool Congress leader Kabir Suman, who flaunts his sympathies for the Red menace, as possible mediators for talks with the government.

A mainstream paper actually printed the bolded part?

^^ link?

viv wrote: ^^ link?

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 655904.cms

best case would be he is in GOI custody in some 'guest house', talking 24x7 to curious
people and ratting on all the high level board members and financial conduits.

Can we really be sure, that Maoists will really "rift"? If mere liquidation of top-brass was so effective, then the Maoists would have been footnotes of history 30 years ago. The three key founders were effectively liquidated [physically eliminated or captured] within a short period from foundation - CC, KS, and JS. The key labour activist who came over from CPI(M) was killed early. Most of the second rung leadership were behind bars within a short period of time. This was the time when people like Kondapalli or VM or Rana took over.

When the ideology has a wide societal recognition and whitewashing among the elite youth, the leadership will be regenerated even after state repression. Two ideologies with inherent and entwined target of "violent if necessary" overthrow of existing state that have never ever been ideologically targeted in India by state power - are Islamism and Communism.

Moreover, there is a curious relationship between loss of direct central or dynastic Congress control over regional leadership, and unleasing of ethnic separatism/religious extremism/communist violence. In that sense Maoism is a most effective tool to weaken regional "rebellious" groupings. Once these regions acknowledge direct dynastic suzerainty, Maoist violence will curiously subside or come under "control".

It is very difficult for me to believe that long going anti-state violent idelogically motivated movements other than Islamic ones have not been penetrated by the intelligence wings. Islamic ones are obviously going to be very difficult to penetrate, especially with the confused mindset with which our operatives are likely to be trained because of the special state-favoured policies towards Islamism. If the non-Islamic violent movemnts are still going strong, it means they are serving some essential political purpose.

Maoists storm CRPF camp in Gaya

Over 100 heavily-armed Maoists on Friday attacked a base camp of Central Reserve Police Force and its Special Armed Force (SAF) inside a forest in Gaya district, sparking a heavy gunbattle.

The ultras attacked the company headquarters of 47 battalion of CRPF and SAF in Lootwa forest and opened fire at around 8:30 pm drawing retaliation from the security forces, DIG (Magadh Range) Anupama Nilekar told PTI.

Both the sides exchanged heavy gunfire which lasted for 45 minutes, Nilekar said.

Reinforcement comprising Bihar military police, CRPF and Special Auxiliary Police (SAP) were rushed to the spot to assist in combing operation against the ultras, who fled deeper inside the forest.

Maoists kill 10 security personnel in landmine blast in Orissa. Just saw it on DD News.
Its so disheartening to see jawaans die for no reason or casualties to reds. If it was a fighting and 15-20 reds were killed, it would've been disheartening still, but at least those pigs would've been killed too.

This will only streangthen the resolve of Security forces to crush these snakes, Inshallah we will be free from this menace in the next few years.

I also caught hold of an NDTV documentry on how Greenhunt was opressive and villagers were suffering , human rights ,rapes , dissapeareances blah blah blah.......... I know that BRF has quite a dislike for NDTV (and rightly so ) but what are the roots behind this channels sympathy to Naxals.

Sri Chidu is on a roll here. Taking the rhetorical fight right to the maobadi heartland and naming their overgroundu fronts, he is. More power (and publicity) to his convictions, communications and actions, let there be.

From the pioneer, posting in full.
Maoists are cowards: Chidambaram

Maoist guerrillas are cowards as they hide in the forests and the campaign against them will be long drawn, Home Minister P. Chidamabaram said in this rebel bastion Sunday.

He said the government was also open to discussions with the People's Committee Against Police Atrocities (PCAPA) to discuss "police atrocities".

But he criticised the PCAPA for helping the Maoists. "Why is PCAPA acting like a front organisation of Naxalites? What have they got to do with the Naxalites? It's a great mistake they are making".

Asked about the Maoist strategy, Chidambaram said: "They are perhaps regrouping. We have to be vigilant."

He ruled out involving the military to flush out the Maoists. "Only the central paramilitary forces and state armed policemen are being deployed."

He said these forces would not be withdrawn.

Bravo, mantriji. Walk the talk, please. Desh aapke saath hai.

http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/ ... contentTop

Story of a Naxal girl getting disillusioned with the party...

Interesting comments by her on the "Andhra vs Bastar" attitude. The government should use these type of fissures to break the movement.

And, yes for INSAS fans, the definitive word :

There are no other girls who go for patrols. I take the INSAS but that is not a very good gun, the SLR and 303 are better rifles. When I was there I used the 12 bore 303

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Naxals ambush CRPF team, 20 killed

Raipur: At least 20 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel were killed in an attack by Naxalites in Dantewada district of Chhattisgarh early on Tuesday.

The attack took place when a CRPF patrol party was returning from a road opening duty in the Naxalite-infested Mukrana forest in the district between 6 and 7 AM.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/naxals-ambus ... ml?from=tn

Extensive Interview with the Anti-Naxal Chief

http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2010/ ... contentTop

The toll has now risen to 70!!
NDTV Link
What a day..And we dream of being a superpower.Really sad..

Nearly 300+ Jawans died in the past 4 months against the Naxals
Today 70 have died, what is our standard response to such slaughter. Nobody is going to like this, when I say this. India Training of Police and even the Army is found wanting in my opinion, which is ofcourse a layman's. India does loose far more men than in comparison to others. Which in my opinion is not acceptable.

The incompetent manner in which the GOI is handling the Naxalite menace indicates more trouble on the horizon.I say "Naxalite" because these cowards are not Maoists ,they have no ideology other than trying to usurp power through the barrel of the gun.In that sense one can say that they are using a tactic of the "Great Helmsman".Slaughtering innocent civilians and peasants-the proletariat (which the simpering siren of syphillitic sophistry simply ignores),is not by any means staple Marxist-Leninist Communist fare.That the tribals of India are in grave danger of losing their lands to the politico-babu-business lobby is a hard fact.The GOI should immediately come out with a transparent plan as to how tribal and peasant lands are to be developed-if at all and how the maximum beneficiaries will be those who have lived on it for centuries.Here any development should be preferably state or JV and not solely private.One hears scandalous tales of a recently deceased CM in a tragic accident,allegedly the usurper of land that had much mineral (limestone)value (so the state could grab it from the peasants according to law) and leased it to a company allegedly belonging to his wife!
How can PC defend such a state of affairs within his own ranks and defeat the Naxals simultaneously?

As for defeating them,it is abundantly clear that only the use of air power in surveillance,and selected attacks can deliver the goods fatser and more efficiently.Fighting the Naxals on the ground will require about 500,000 troops/police or whatever,take at least 10-15 years to win (look at Sri Lanka as an example),as the Naxals can move from state to state and source their weapons by land (even from China and Burma!) unlike the LTTE who had to do so by sea-a crucial handciap,leading to their defeat.Naxal bases deep in the jungle have to be destroyed by air and air dropping of commandos and troops to deliver the knockout blows afterwards can be achieved only through large scale helo ops.While the IA is apprehensive and rejects its use against the Naxals ,saying that this problem requires better "policing",the true fact is that the Naxals possess modern arms which require something far more than police batons and side arms to defeat them.The use of IEDs and other sophisticated weaponry is on the rise and PC's "three years " vow to defeat them may in fact be his "famous last words"!

why Indian govt is not using air power and satellite help?

This news made this day so bad. I dont even know what to write. And if I see Arundhati or anyone still justifying maoists somehow, I will probably loose faith in us.

I hope the families of the victims and those that remain in service would hold those politicians giving them periodic certificates of good conduct, treat them as 'our boys' and also the Stalinist mass murderer/ rapist goons and their yellow media puppets, fake historians and fake intellectuals directly and personally accountable for the deaths of these and other such jawans and bring justice to the doors of these criminal traitors first before going after the Maoists and Naxals and Stalinists.

Sad Sad Day...Dont know what to say. It must be two front war. First, crush the naxalites mercilessly. Secondly, Devlopment of tribal areas, tribals have been neglected for too long now.

I fuly agree with philip when he says:

That the tribals of India are in grave danger of losing their lands to the politico-babu-business lobby is a hard fact.The GOI should immediately come out with a transparent plan as to how tribal and peasant lands are to be developed-if at all and how the maximum beneficiaries will be those who have lived on it for centuries

And finally, What kind of training we are giving to police/CRPF personnel? Its shameful.

Philip wrote:While the IA is apprehensive and rejects its use against the Naxals ,saying that this problem requires better "policing",the true fact is that the Naxals possess modern arms which require something far more than police batons and side arms to defeat them.The use of IEDs and other sophisticated weaponry is on the rise and PC's "three years " vow to defeat them may in fact be his "famous last words"!

Dont why the IA is trying to be an escapist everytime..It really requires guys of their calibre to give these ba$t@rds a bloody nose..Even this new army chief also said that its not army's headache.What they will protect only the borders and let nothing remain of interiors or what!!

IndraD wrote:why Indian govt is not using air power and satellite help?

The choppers could not land because of terrain but more importantly they were using anti-aircraft guns!

what surprises me is the count being reported - depending on what you see between 1000 to 500 maoists. That points to a huge local intelligence failure.

Since the Maoists attack as a group, the option of using attack helis must be considered. The troops must also be heavily armed. I do believe that most of the CRPF men are not protected the way they must be. Just check some of the pictures of them in Maoist hinterland.

Kavu wrote:Nearly 300+ Jawans died in the past 4 months against the Naxals
Today 70 have died, what is our standard response to such slaughter. Nobody is going to like this, when I say this. India Training of Police and even the Army is found wanting in my opinion, which is ofcourse a layman's. India does loose far more men than in comparison to others. Which in my opinion is not acceptable.

This is not because of lack of training, it is because of 0 intelligence input. India's intelligence apparatus is at level of least developed nations in the world and this is precisely the reason of the death. As long as GoI not strengthen intelligence it will suffer forever and brave jawans will become shahid's due to lack of willpower from government. Out intelligence gathering capacity is so so poor within the country how can we even think about becoming a super-power. A single shot at becoming superpower will throw gamut of political games and destabilizing forces from around the world. We will need another 25 years just to be intelligent enough to understand the world politics. At the moment we still need to solve internal problems.

From Media reports there 100-1000 maoists, why not drop an LGB from 20000ft from the air, no need to inform the media. This would have stopped the attack