Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 29 Mar 2013 01:52

X-post

Tarek Fatah's speech at Human Rights in Baluchistan, UNHRC, Geneva 14-03-2

Suggests a "new axis of evil" - China-Pak-Iran.
Speaks of the difference between Islamofascism and older racist and ethnic fascisms.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 29 Mar 2013 06:04

Breaking World Records in Pakistan

Pakistan has set 23 world records in the past year alone — in everything from creating the world's largest sequin mosaic, to gathering the most people singing their country's anthem, to kicking coconuts off of heads. That record went to a boy who kicked 50 coconuts off of other people's heads in one minute.

Pakistan's newfound enthusiasm for record-breaking comes as part of an effort to boost national pride in a country associated with militancy and religious strife. This year, organizers of Lahore's annual Punjab Youth Festival went so far as to fly a Guinness Book of World Records judge into the country to monitor and certify the feats of the festival participants.

Akbar Ahmed, chair of the Islamic Studies Department at American University and Pakistan's former Ambassador to the United Kingdom, explains what the chance to pursue world-records means for a generation of young Pakistanis.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 29 Mar 2013 06:08

Internet slowdown hits consumers across Pakistan

Internet slowdown on Wednesday hit consumers across Pakistan, as submarine cable SMW4 developed a fault in Alexandria, Egypt, telecom sector sources said. "The undersea fibre-optic cable has developed faults," they said, adding that the breakdown has slowed down internet traffic also in Pakistan.

"The damage in cable has affected internet services in many regions such as Far East, Middle East, North Africa, South Asia etc," they said, adding that repairing the cable is, however, underway to restore the flow.

Press release adds: One of the international submarine cables (SMW4) has experienced fault in sea waters near Alexandria, Egypt. This has impacted internet services in the entire regions of the Far East, Middle East, Pakistan, India and North Africa. The international consortium of operators in the region that manages the submarine cable system is proceeding to deploy repair services to restore services at the earliest.

Meanwhile, Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited (PTCL), in a press release said that PTCL has already undertaken necessary actions to minimise the impact on the services to customers in Pakistan, by making alternate arrangement for internet capacity. This has been made possible because of PTCL multiple submarine cable systems facility in Pakistan. Customers may experience slow browsing during peak hours and PTCL regrets this temporary inconvenience caused to valued customers, under the prevalent circumstances.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Mar 2013 06:42

Rajdeep wrote:Am curious to understand what sort of politics is at play here , when Sethi has been approved to be made the CT CM of Punjab by the Badmash bros. who are the current rulers. And to boot he was nominated by Pee Pee Pee.

If I am not wrong Sethi was taken under arrest (under Treason charge) Salim Shezad style in 1999 when Badmash was the ruler. He was tortured in jail , where according to reports he even suffered a heart attack.

Sethi is anti army in his public pronouncements. Badmash is anti army too. It makes sense for them to ally. Musharraf might possibly be a "consensus candidate" that army is allowing - sidelining Im the dim

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Mar 2013 07:23

Shiv, My reading is Mushy is backed by US to ensure safe exeunt from Afghanistan. They brought him back to guarantee safe passage.

The corollary is he will try a repeat of Kargil elsewhere may be in Kutch to boost the morale of the RATs while they are selling their soles in Kabul!!!

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 29 Mar 2013 08:29

^
But shouldn't Kayani be sufficient to ensure safe passage to Amirkhans? In that case they don't need Musharraf? IMO Musharraf is more like a consensus candidate for the Paki army.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 29 Mar 2013 08:35

Maybe the bandicoot becomes the president and the 0 watt bulb becomes the PM. This way the army can control everything.
Dont know if any more extension is possible for the current jallad in seat.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Mar 2013 08:38

Taliban Terrorize Karachi as the New Gang in Town

But there is a new gang in town. Hundreds of miles from their homeland in the mountainous northwest, Pakistani Taliban fighters have started to flex their muscles more forcefully in parts of this vast city, and they are openly taking ground.

Taliban gunmen have mounted guerrilla assaults on police stations, killing scores of officers. They have stepped up extortion rackets that target rich businessmen and traders, and shot dead public health workers engaged in polio vaccination efforts. In some neighborhoods, Taliban clerics have started to mediate disputes through a parallel judicial system.

Just why the Taliban are adopting such an aggressive profile in Karachi right now is unclear. Some cite the greater number of militants fleeing Pakistani military operations in the northwest; others say it may be the product of dwindling funds, as jihadi donors in the Persian Gulf states turn to the Middle East.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 29 Mar 2013 08:46

Nawaz hates Bandicoot. Ashphuck hates Bandicoot too. The army is of the opinion that Bandicoot has grievously harmed the army, the public no longer clamor for a coup. There is also a opinion that Bandicoot sold out Pakistan for too little in return for the army. If you recall, Ashphuck personally kicked Mushy out of power after Mushy relinquished his position as COAS and then tried to dictate terms to the Army. Remember that Paki army as an institution tries to protect itself. Once you are out, you are out.

I think the only support to Bandicoot could be from Zardari. PPP is in a weak position, their governance has been abysmal. Partly because they spent their time hanging on to their chair under constant assault from the court and from the Army. There are two major political threats to PPP. PML-N and Immy. Immy is personally popular in pockets, but to win you need a political machinery, with people on the ground, distributing booze and money and busing people in to vote. Not sure how good his ground-game is. That leaves PML-N.

If Zardari can strike a grand bargain with Mushy to tackle PML-N, Court and Army he will. Lets see.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Mar 2013 09:18

ramana wrote:Shiv, My reading is Mushy is backed by US to ensure safe exeunt from Afghanistan. They brought him back to guarantee safe passage.

The corollary is he will try a repeat of Kargil elsewhere may be in Kutch to boost the morale of the RATs while they are selling their soles in Kabul!!!

Ramana US backing may be correct. But he cannot do a Kargil because he does not control the army and the army is now in a mess.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 29 Mar 2013 09:50

About a month back Najam Sethi was on his show saying that "unique problems require unique solutions", and since Pakistan is a unique country, a unique solution was needed. the only thing he indicated about his unique solution at that time was that both the army and the politicians would have to actively work together to resolve Pakistan's problems - rather than the usual palaver about the army staying aloof and allowing democracy space to play. In the light of those statements, its interesting that both Najam and Mushy are making a dramatic entry onto the political scene at about the same time. One thing that Mushy is regarded positively for by all Pakis is that he opened up the doors to Pakistan's now "vibrant" media...

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 29 Mar 2013 09:55

shiv wrote:
ramana wrote:Shiv, My reading is Mushy is backed by US to ensure safe exeunt from Afghanistan. They brought him back to guarantee safe passage.

The corollary is he will try a repeat of Kargil elsewhere may be in Kutch to boost the morale of the RATs while they are selling their soles in Kabul!!!
Ramana US backing may be correct. But he cannot do a Kargil because he does not control the army and the army is now in a mess.

I doubt if we're going to get a 'Kargil- clone' in the near future. In my opinion, outside of 'regular' terrorism that they sponsor in India, a base tenet of Pakistani strategy is to execute major operations that are 'new and original' and different from the very last - a new axis of attack, new techniques, new targets. Anything that can keep the Indian state off balance. Thus (in varying degrees of intensity) hijackings of aircraft, attack on Parliament, Kargil, a full scale military incursion, was followed by 'non-state actors' in Mumbai with intel collected by a jihadi who passed off as Caucasian American and hence got easier passage.

It would be interesting to game possible scenarios of the next major Pakistani operation against India. Taking down one of the four dhams? Attacking a major mosque in the hope of inciting riots? Using ethnic groups that appear similar to those from our North Eastern states for major ops? Recycle and repeat a passenger aircraft hijacking since one hasn't happened in a long time? False flag an Indian op, say one in Nepal or Sri Lanka?

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Mar 2013 10:05

U.S.-Pakistan: From alliance to active dislike

And Husain Haqqani, former Pakistani ambassador to Washington, blames the United States — indirectly.

Given that Washington has provided $23 billion in aid since 2002, “In Pakistan, there is always the assumption that the United States is not going to restrict us too much,” Haqqani said. “There should be a price to pay for having jihadists in the country.” But “the U.S. is reinforcing the presumption that they can do whatever they want — they can have their cake and eat it, too.”

In other words, Haqqani says, the United States is subsidizing his country’s “bad behavior.”

“Each country considers the other to be a terrible ally,” Haqqani asserted.

At the center of this totally dysfunctional relationship lies that copious U.S. aid, including $7.5 billion approved in 2009, to be disbursed over the following five years. And when the Pakistani government fell into a major fiscal crisis late last year, it seemed to demand a request for help from the International Monetary Fund. But the government didn’t want to approach the IMF because of the stringent economic conditions the fund attaches to its loans.

Well, almost out of the blue, $688 million in U.S. military aid suddenly landed in the government’s coffers — “coalition support funds, reimbursement for military action on the Afghan border,” Markey said.

Well, there had been no significant military action on the Afghan border of the sort the United States has been seeking — and never has been. “So basically, it was just cash support that goes directly into the government pot,” Markey added. That saved the government from having to deal with the IMF.

“We should have held off on that recent tranche of assistance,” Markey asserted.

“The U.S. aid and the corruption that has ensued has allowed entrenched interests to make themselves more entrenched,” said Yasmeen Hassan, a Pakistani who is global director of Equality Now, an international human rights organization. “It’s very damaging.”

Haqqani advocates a divorce.

Haqqani agreed. “Pakistan has all these nuclear weapons, they have all these jihadi groups, and they think that makes Pakistan more secure against India and all,” he said. “But I don’t agree.” Eliminating American aid will force Pakistan to face up to their problems, he insisted. Now, “the U.S. is reinforcing those resistant to change, prolonging the problem.”

Many of the Pakistani actions that make American politicians so angry are egregious human rights abuses — like Equality Now’s recent report that incest is a rampant problem across the state. But even in the rare cases when young girls muster the courage to take their father or brother to court, police or the courts almost always throw the case out and blame the girl instead.

In cases of both incest and rape, Pakistan’s justice system generally refuses to get involved, Equality Now said.

“There’s no law against incest in Pakistan,” said Hassan.

Sahil, a Pakistani children’s rights organization, said 2,252 incest cases were reported in 2010 — a tiny fraction of the total. While Hassan was working there over the past few years, she said she could tell that incest “was prevalent in the country because I talked to doctors and teachers — and gynecologists who reported frequent abortion cases.” All of that is causing “devastating psychological, emotional and physical consequences for the victims,” her group’s report said.

The incest issue is just one in a host of major human-rights abuses, Haqqani and others acknowledged. Reports of these problems are in newspapers and on television almost every day.

American officials, even those who are highly critical of Pakistan, generally don’t accept the idea of a sudden aid cutoff.

“It’s hard to see that walking away from things will improve things,” Markey said.

And former Ambassador Munter was even more blunt, saying: “Now is not the time to turn away from Pakistan” despite “the cuts and abrasions we have both suffered in recent years.”

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Mar 2013 10:23

India should work towards promoting "accelerated instability" in TSP while ensuring US cuts off its funding of TSP due to its own laws.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 29 Mar 2013 10:59

Please correct me if I'm wrong but one of the reasons we even got to the state in Kargil was because our monitoring of porki defense forces was stalled or ignored. Unless we get into another lahore bus situation with tremendous amounts of pappi jhappi bhai bhai levels, we aren't going to drop our monitoring no? Surely, once bitten twice shy, atleast the army?

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 29 Mar 2013 11:39

ramana wrote:India should work towards promoting "accelerated instability" in TSP while ensuring US cuts off its funding of TSP due to its own laws.

This is the kind of analytic process we need to think regularily

RSoami · Post by **RSoami** » 29 Mar 2013 11:59

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new ... 34077.aspx

Suicide attack in Peshawar. Six dead

RSoami · Post by **RSoami** » 29 Mar 2013 12:06

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2 ... n:-seminar

Apparently 45% of home grown terrorists in England have visited Pakistan.

But from the same Seminar, this is what the Hindu has learnt -

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 551859.ece

Threat from white far-right groups highlighted.

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 29 Mar 2013 13:01

Shoe thrown at Gen. Bandicoot. Apparently it hit him on his face. AoA

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 29 Mar 2013 13:17

http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-94365 ... -15-days--
The News.pk is reporting that the shoe thrower unfortunately missed. However, he won't be the last to try.

Time to fetch the popcorn and beer

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rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 29 Mar 2013 14:01

^^^^

Actually, Bandicoot should be allowed to survive and be brought back to power. The Distinguished Servive Medals (DSM) he wears, in his case, are know as Downhill Skiing Medals. he has plenty of DSMs on his chest.

Once, he again does his downhill naatak and successfully, he should only then be rewarded with the ultimate. His 72.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Mar 2013 14:33

Politicians fear militant attacks on their election campaigns and rallies

But, the retired General is not alone in the Taliban's line of fire. All prominent politicians - former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, President Asif Ali Zardari, PTI Chief Imran Khan and ANP President Asfandyar Wali Khan fear for their lives while addressing public gatherings ahead of the general elections, scheduled to be held on 11 May - since the outgoing government's efforts to convince the Taliban for a 'ceasefire during general elections' has failed.

arun · Post by **arun** » 29 Mar 2013 15:43

X Posted from the ” ISI History and Discussions” thread.

The military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and its intelligence service, presumably the Inter Services Intelligence Directorate ( ISID aka ISI) upto no good.

Pakistani man “who has relations working for Pakistan’s secret service and military” and himself “suspected of working for a Pakistani intelligence service since the end of at least October 2012” arrested for spying in Germany:

German police arrest Pakistani for suspicion in drone spying case

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 29 Mar 2013 15:47

Baikul wrote: It would be interesting to game possible scenarios of the next major Pakistani operation against India. .... snip.....

Saar this need not be discussed here.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 29 Mar 2013 19:13

Narad wrote:
Baikul wrote: It would be interesting to game possible scenarios of the next major Pakistani operation against India. .... snip.....
Saar this need not be discussed here.

I did not mean for it to be discussed on this thread, beyond my outlining a few points. If the latter was understood to mean we debate it here, that was not my intention.

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 29 Mar 2013 19:43

Taliban extending reach across Pakistan

In joining Karachi's street wars, the Taliban are upending a long-established network of competing criminal, ethnic and political armed groups in this combustible city. The difference is that the Taliban's agenda is more expansive — it seeks to overthrow the Pakistani state — and their operations are run by remote control from the tribal belt along the Afghan border.

Just why the Taliban are adopting such an aggressive profile in Karachi right now is unclear. Some cite the greater number of militants fleeing Pakistani military operations in the northwest; others say it may be the product of dwindling funds, as jihadi donors in the Persian Gulf states turn to the Middle East.

"I don't think the Taliban would like to set Karachi aflame, because they fear the reaction against them," said Ikram Seghal, a security consultant in Karachi. "The police and intelligence agencies have very good information about them."

The snake is expanding its territory

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 29 Mar 2013 19:48

Shonu wrote:Taliban extending reach across Pakistan

Just why the Taliban are adopting such an aggressive profile in Karachi right now is unclear. Some cite the greater number of militants fleeing Pakistani military operations in the northwest; others say it may be the product of dwindling funds, as jihadi donors in the Persian Gulf states turn to the Middle East.

Karachi is full of Pashtuns

AbhiJ · Post by **AbhiJ** » 29 Mar 2013 20:13

Baki Birturd Mohotarmas get more Purified with Arabic Sperm

Libya’s deputy prime minister says pro-government militiamen are suspected of having raped three British female activists of Pakistani origin in the eastern city of Benghazi, the Associated Press reported Friday.

According to the report, Libya’s deupty PM Awsad al-Barassi said the women were part of an overland aid convoy bound for Gaza. They were traveling with two male companions when they were kidnapped Tuesday on their way to the Benghazi airport after deciding return to Britain.

According to another report by news agency AFP, two British women of Pakistani origin were accompanied by their father.

The women “were brutally raped in front of their father,” Awadh al-Barassi said on his Facebook page, condemning the “horrible act,” reported AFP.

Al-Barassi told Libya al-Hurra TV late Thursday that he has met with the women and they are in “very bad shape.” Barassi also said the family was “in a very bad psychological state.”

Pakistani Foreign Ministry spokesman Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry condemned the incident and said Islamabad is in contact with Libyan authorities.

Britain’s Foreign Office said it is aware of an incident involving British nationals who were part of an aid convoy. It did not elaborate.

The women, accompanied by their father on the convoy organised by Turkish NGO IHH, had been destined for the Palestinian coastal enclave blockaded by Israel when it was blocked from leaving Libya and entering Egypt.

The three decided to return to Benghazi accompanied by two more Britons, with the aim of getting a flight home. But when they arrived in Libya’s second city they were abducted by five unidentified men.

A Western diplomatic source speaking on condition of anonymity confirmed the group had been abducted, but was unable to say the women had been sexually assaulted, pending medical reports.

The diplomatic source also said there had been arrests in the case, without specifying how many.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 29 Mar 2013 20:30

Blast kills 10 near U.S. Consulate in Pakistan

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 29 Mar 2013 21:03

^^ A comment from above CNN report

Competing Tourism Slogans from Asian Countries

Thailand :Amazing Thailand

India :Incredible India

Malaysia : Truly Asia

And the winner is Pakistan's tag
line!

Have a blast.
It may be your last!!

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 29 Mar 2013 21:19

Film Censor board bans GI Joe 2 in Pakistan

Responding to queries, the cinema explained that the film had been censored due to initial scenes depicting Pakistan as a failed state and fictionally portraying foreign invasion of Pakistan’s nuclear installations.

The movie starts with the protagonist framed for stealing nuclear warheads from Pakistan, a sequence which has brought the ire of Pakistani authorities.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 29 Mar 2013 21:41

Also some ridiculous percentage of Paki government revenue comes from karachi. Something like 50% of direct taxes. Imagine what would happen if Karachi suddenly becomes a no-go area.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 29 Mar 2013 23:20

240,000 Pakistani children missed anti-polio drive: WHO

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 29 Mar 2013 23:33

Pakistani student extradited from UK to US

LONDON - A Pakistani student Usman Ahzaz was extradited from Britain on Friday to United States on the request of Federal Bureau Investigation (FBI).

The FBI alleged that Ahzaz had "surreptitiously controlled" over 100,000 protected computers without the owners' knowledge. Previously, those computers had been infected with malicious software (malware), FBI alleged in court papers.

The FBI went on to allege that in June 2010, Usman sold "installs" to an undercover FBI agent who paid the Pakistani student USD 600 in return for his agreement to "surreptitiously install what he believed to be malicious computer code (provided by the undercover agent) onto the compromised computers within the appellant's botnet.

The FBI alleged that the software provided to Ahzaz was "indeed installed on more than 100,000 computers" but no harm was caused which showed that it was an entrapment and the Pakistani national was allured into the trap.

"I have no idea what the Americans will do to me when I am there. I have no money to afford a lawyer there. My lawyers advised me to ask the government of Pakistan to intervene and ask the British government to stop my extradition but the government of Pakistan didn't do anything for me . I would have liked to have a fair trial in Pakistan. If the government of Pakistan doesn't do anything to stop my extradition then that will be end of my life," Ahzaz said.

The FBI alleged that Ahzaz had hacked 100,000 computers but were unable to prove it in the London High Court and the number was therefore brought down to 800 computers, which could not be proved as well.

"Whenever I contacted the government, I was told that they have written to someone but never told me who to,” Ahzaz said.

“They never visited me when I was in prison. I was treated like dirt. Pakistani officials didn't respond to my lawyer's request for help. It's due to the failure of the Pakistani government that I will be extradited to the US to face charges in American courts even after nothing could be proven in London, for the crimes I have never committed," he said.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 30 Mar 2013 00:02

Pak hand emerges in North Korea's nuclear threat to US. Should India be worried?

Notice the mushy uvacha

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/pak- ... 59886.html

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 30 Mar 2013 06:25

TFT says Mushy was led to expect a much better reception in Paki-land and was very disappointed after his landing.
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta3/tft ... 29&page=32

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 30 Mar 2013 06:34

Unkil wants to make mushy Mubarak of Pakistan ala egypt

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Mar 2013 06:36

talibs have the men and firepower to rout and kick around the local dawood and older pathan gangs.

be interesting to see who emerges as king of the dung heap. as TSPs only major port and distribution center, whoever owns the hafta rackets there is sitting on a goldmine.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Mar 2013 07:21

AbhiJ wrote:Baki Birturd Mohotarmas get more Purified with Arabic Sperm

The wimmens were accompanied by male relatives - Pass
There are no four witnesses - fail

There is no rape or these wimmen are whores. Since Islam is a religion of peace and no Muslim kills another musim and even hurting one human being is like killing the whole humanity, these women are definitely Munafiqs who came to Libya to defame Islam.

They must be stoned to death.

The father can marry another wimmen and have more kids so Ummah grows.

Peace be upon him!

sadhana · Post by **sadhana** » 30 Mar 2013 07:28

The ANP minister is braving the odds but Asad Durrani and Sheikh Rashid come across as poisonous and pure evil. On the Afghan side, Amrullah Saleh rules.

Af-Pak town hall (parts 1 and 2)

Note: I see it is already posted on Af-Pak thread. But bears repeated posting, so leaving this here.