AP Politics and runup to 2014 General elections

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Oct 2013 23:15

ramana wrote:
fanne wrote:Boss SS needs to go. I will rather vote congress if she is my LS candidate.

This means BJP wants to go after the T vote by claiming they should get the credit.
So far they wont get any in rest of the state.
It will be YSRCP or TDP in rest of the state.

Ramanji, when one is a "stateless" leader and no connection to grassroot, he/she tries to latch on to the first opportunity avialable to survive. It's pretty much like getting a seat in the non reserved compartments of train in desh. I doubt BJP has anything to do with it which is now firmly under the control of Modi and RNS. Just like her mentor she too will come to know or someone will have to make it known to her.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 04 Oct 2013 00:52

BJP in Kosta Andhra is a mirage. the people there have absolutely no interest in BJP. they never did in the past.
so, if people here are claiming that somehow supporting T has shafted BJP in Kosta, they have it a** backwards.
it's the other way around. if BJP ever had any kind of hope in Kosta, they would have been very careful about even touching the T-issue.
but Kosta never showed any interest in BJP even back in 90's, when at one point of time, BJP had 18% vote share from AP.

so, people need to stop misinformation campaign that T-support brought down BJP in Kosta. that is BS of the first order.

just to clarify, I have no bone of contention with SS and her like/dislike of Advani/Modi.

but am amused at attempts to paint T-issue as causing BJP demise in Seemandhra. on the contrary, it was the primarily SA-fueled pressure of "coalition dharma" which brought down BJP in Telangana and shifted the platform of separate-T into the hands of KCR and TRS.

A BJP which could get 25-40% vote share in T-districts would have never allowed KCR to rise as he did. and now, I'm sure some twisted logic will be invented to claim it was BJP's original support to T-stance that gave birth to KCR.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Oct 2013 00:58

ramana wrote:
fanne wrote:Boss SS needs to go. I will rather vote congress if she is my LS candidate.

This means BJP wants to go after the T vote by claiming they should get the credit.
So far they wont get any in rest of the state.
It will be YSRCP or TDP in rest of the state.

BJP will not get any credit for T-formation.

I will give an example. A hungry beggar (pls do not say I call someone beggar) comes across and asks for Rs10 for lunch. You give him Rs10 and I promise him Rs10 (not anymore) when I win lottery (2014 elections).

Who will get the credit of feeding the beggar?

BJP is being the ignorant that she has been all along.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 04 Oct 2013 01:37

KCR needs to merge into INC. sooner the better. that is the next phase.

make no mistake about it: after division, the T-elites will split along predictable factional lines. that is when the real manthan will begin in Telangana. until then, all is masked. the real fight will begin after the realignment of old elites with Ashrafs begins to happen once again. the resistance will come from quarters that will shock both the Ashrafs and the old-feudals.

even among T-Reddys, the V's don't have the right picture of post-bifurcation factions that will emerge.

the SA guys can probably not see the clearly emerging picture in this emotional moment, but it's happening nonetheless. the "cleaning" that needs to happen, will start off in earnest.

step 1 is KCR and V's merging back into INC. after that, fun begins.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 04 Oct 2013 02:37

I think KCR will merge into INC. Let us say it is an educated guess.

One person at the paper opening function is part of extended family. His younger bro and another man mentioned in the story were in the same small town small high school class (a small one) as yours truly a little over 40 years ago.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 04 Oct 2013 03:54

matrimc wrote:I think KCR will merge into INC. Let us say it is an educated guess.

One person at the paper opening function is part of extended family. His younger bro and another man mentioned in the story were in the same small town small high school class (a small one) as yours truly a little over 40 years ago.

It was all negotiated before. KCR will merge and will run for Lok Sabha. He will be given a state minister post like Chiranjavi. He gets to keep the Telangana Bhavan and other monies.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 04 Oct 2013 03:57

Narayana Rao wrote:BJP need to do some fast thinking and make a mess of things in AP plan of mafia. Immediately starting talks with CBN and going to town with Jagan mafia deal to sweep non Telangana areas. CBN is alreadydoing it and many congee leaders are also saying it openly. People who are with congressfcongress two generations are openly saying that party cheated them. Many now resigned from the party. If Sonia is playing a high risk game and CBN and NM should beat her now.

Wait for Modi to raise the fair treatment of Andhra folks as the elections come near.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 04 Oct 2013 05:52

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Oct 2013 05:55

devesh wrote: make no mistake about it: after division, the T-elites will split along predictable factional lines. that is when the real manthan will begin in Telangana. until then, all is masked. the real fight will begin after the realignment of old elites with Ashrafs begins to happen once again. the resistance will come from quarters that will shock both the Ashrafs and the old-feudals.

If what you say really plays out, the split is worthwhile. T key factor would be Adavibiddalu. If that happens, we will be looking at Musunuri Nayaka redux.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 04 Oct 2013 05:58

Modi will not do any such thing. I somehow getting a felling that he is being mislead.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 04 Oct 2013 06:57

More than musunuri nayaka, it will be something else. At this point it is speculation. But musunuri redux, if it does happen, will fail just as last time. Think about the ground realities. Think about both regions and compare which area has witnessed greater weakening of old feudals and which one retains most of that baggage without any fundamental break.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 04 Oct 2013 07:03

More so overt opposition requires some level of clean hands which have not previously played a role in politics much. But they have risen enough in the recent past to become more ambitious and confident. This confidence without previous experience of muddied hands is the crucial requirement.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 04 Oct 2013 07:18

Narayana Rao wrote:Modi will not do any such thing. I somehow getting a felling that he is being mislead.

Modi is a thinker, he cannot be easily misled. In Hyderabad address, he was the first leader from BJP or Congress to talk about Seemandra interests. If you remember Advani's recent ratha yatra, he avoided entering seemandhra for the fear of backlash whereas Modi is going to address a meeting in Rajahmundry. Today, Modi hasnt spoken on Telangana issue which might be an indication that he will talk about raw deal to seemandhra while supporting the telangana state.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 04 Oct 2013 07:30

JP was close to many establishment at Delhi. Asmpdr him, mafia never even bothered to discuss the issues etc with anyone. As per one rumour the decision was taken by 3 members of mafia family. Two days back they met Antony in hospital and discussed this issue.

They are confident that Samuel Jagan criminal gang will deliver and UP type arrangement is going to bday there in AP with CBI And ED playing their role and Jagan allowed further looting. Unfortunately BJP playing along with them.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 04 Oct 2013 07:37

Rajamandri meet will be a very bad idea in near future as after what sushma did and said people are quite angry. MODI OR NO MODI this may be a very risky thing.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Oct 2013 07:45

^ I don't think so. As a PM candidate he must face Seemandhra people and understand/answer their concerns. Make them build a vision of their own in the new reality.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 04 Oct 2013 07:56

At this time you just need a leader who travels on the otherside and tell that split is fine and let us start living to otherthings instead of constant stupid focus on so called united AP. Until that happens the exploitation of emotions for politics will just continue.

The strategy of YSRC+TRS+BSP+INC as UPA-3 is just solidifying.

BJP+TDP+INLD+HVP+JVM+MNS has to solidify. AP folks have to seriously get out hero worshipping and should think out of fear mongering. Hell will not fall on them if they live in two states.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 04 Oct 2013 08:00

Modi and TDP should quicky wrap up an alliance and put a whitepaper with how they will bring the speed with a capital development and a regional development for Rayalaseema. Once a plan and future is told upfront there will be thaw on the other side which will trigger a new era. Yes there will be losses for TDP but sustained consistence will break the wrought that is being predicted against the BJP+TDP.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 04 Oct 2013 08:10

AT the height of NDA rule with 182 BJP seats in Loksabha , how many seats BJP had from AP?? All they had CBN and TDP. So winning few seats in AP , divided or united , may not be possible for them. They do not seem to have any base there unlike Bihar where they tied up with NiKu and handed him on platter the electoral victory to JDU.

BJP needs to build credible leadership in Telangan and Seemandhra and that will take time. It may not be possible for 2014 elections. So it has option for coalition in T and S.

BJP will certainly not get the credit for division and sweep Telangana. People are not that fool.

As for EJism in Semmandhra , I hardly see people protesting, except those few and far between. How come Jagan has become so popular if people don't like him or his father or his activities.

All along AP has delivered INC. I think this time ( with B Team as back up) will deliver AP in toto. BJP should try coalition and try to get winnable seats for themselves so that they can build base there. They should rather concentrate on States which really matter in their scheme of things and not where they are irrelevant.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 04 Oct 2013 08:15

chaanakya wrote:AT the height of NDA rule with 182 BJP seats in Loksabha , how many seats BJP had from AP?? All they had CBN and TDP. So winning few seats in AP , divided or united , may not be possible for them. They do not seem to have any base there unlike Bihar where they tied up with NiKu and handed him on platter the electoral victory to JDU.

BJP needs to build credible leadership in Telangan and Seemandhra and that will take time. It may not be possible for 2014 elections. So it has option for coalition in T and S.

BJP will certainly not get the credit for division and sweep Telangana. People are not that fool.

As for EJism in Semmandhra , I hardly see people protesting, except those few and far between. How come Jagan has become so popular if people don't like him or his father or his activities.

All along AP has delivered INC. I think this time ( with B Team as back up) will deliver AP in toto. BJP should try coalition and try to get winnable seats for themselves so that they can build base there. They should rather concentrate on States which really matter in their scheme of things and not where they are irrelevant.

+100

BJP will neither get credit for division not get any extra anger. They should only maneuver to get a foothold and make it competitive against TRS+INC in Telangana and explore defeat for Jagan+ on the SA side. Anything else is just foolish talk.

vina · Post by **vina** » 04 Oct 2013 12:23

Was watching this Jaganmohan Reddy drama on TV . Raised "important" issues of River water, employment, and of course revenue. He really let the cat out of the bag. Hyderabad contributes 50% of AP's tax revenues!

WTH! All that fertile belt between Krishna and Godavari delta, the vast wealth of the coastal guys we see flooding BLR, Chennai and other places is not taxed ?

Come on. The fight is about who gets to keep their paws in the Hyderabad cookie jar. That is the basic fight. How about saying, that this "redistribution" business of taxing Hyd to pay for all the junkets in the rest of Andhra (all parts) is verboten and stops right now ? Go on, raise the revenue locally and spend it locally, why go arms outstretched for alms and ask for money from Hyd. Vizag, Vijaywada, Rajahmundry, Guntur, Chittoor, Cudappah, Kurnool can be developed into major centers of trade, commerce and industry, if they actually want to do so.

All this is really about smash and grab of Hyderabad's prosperity and wealth. Shame.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 04 Oct 2013 12:41

Re:Smash and grab ,dirty paws off cookie jar , arms outstretched for alms,shameless SA's

Vina ji,
How much %revenue from Chennai to TN ?
May be after that you can resume pontification on need for SA folks to behave and stop shamelessly spreading their hands for handouts for Hyderabad revenue.

Ohh also maybe you can donate some money for SA development of "Vizag, Vijaywada, Rajahmundry, Guntur, Chittoor, Cudappah, Kurnool" as yeevil SA folks are after Hyderabad's prosperity onlee and according to you Hyderabad rose from the earth by itself (like the swayambhu pratimas's of yore) and since it rised in telangana territory only telangana has rights on it.

Fair enough.
SA's didn't know then that you an Tamil outsider will come up with this logic - so its stupidity on their part that they didn't invest in their hometowns but rather wasted it in Hyderabad which is not "theirs" in the first place all these years.

Now coming back to the main issue please spare some of your spare change at least to help develop these backwater towns- I beg you on their behalf - SA's will be much grateful as they seem to be beggared and broke.

Frankly this ugly sniping from the sidelines on SAs by those who have no stake in the stuff is vomit worthy. Congrats to those doing this - you displayed your gutter mind.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 04 Oct 2013 13:31

chaanakya wrote:AT the height of NDA rule with 182 BJP seats in Loksabha , how many seats BJP had from AP??

+108. And Modi is not a magician. It is fine to like and support the man, but to expect magic to happen just because he visited the area once makes no sense.

Modi can not even help BJP in Kkta unless the local unit can be healed (which thanks to Yeddi is impossible). How will he help AP?

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 04 Oct 2013 14:44

BJP had at least 4 MPs and two ministers. Out of them 2 are from coastal areas and 2 from telangana. Now from Telangana they have 2 MLA and no MP s. From no MP to few MP s on the basis of what? No cadre, No money, No caste base, againt mafia money and goon power in Telangana, against sushma swaraj vomit in Non Telangana. BJP alone will take 2 to 3 elections in Telangana area to win few MP seats alone. May be NM will pull some miracle. I do not know. They hardly won any panchyath elections few weeks back in entire AP. Alliance with CBN is a must for both the parties and if it is not there then bjp may lose more than CBN.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 04 Oct 2013 14:56

Narayana Rao wrote:From no MP to few MP s on the basis of what?

In 1991, they won Secunderabad (and came within breathing distance of victory in Hyderabad) on the basis of the Ram wave, and nothing else. Now, while they have very little representation in Telangana, they still won about 1 lakh votes in most constituencies in 2009 (performance in Kosta/Rayalseema was abysmal in comparison). Is it impossible for Modi to convert a couple of those 1 lakh (Secunderabad, Malkajgiri, Chevella, Nizamabad, maybe even Zahirabad and Hyderabad - don't have electoral statistics at the moment to verify) constituencies to a victory in 2014?

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 04 Oct 2013 15:31

Sanku wrote:
chaanakya wrote:AT the height of NDA rule with 182 BJP seats in Loksabha , how many seats BJP had from AP??
+108. And Modi is not a magician. It is fine to like and support the man, but to expect magic to happen just because he visited the area once makes no sense.

Modi can not even help BJP in Kkta unless the local unit can be healed (which thanks to Yeddi is impossible). How will he help AP?

Fact is, in 1999 NDA won 270 seats, 36 of which came from AP where UPA/INC won 156 seats with 6 seats from AP.
In 2004, NDA won 0 seats from AP and the national total fell to 218, where as UPA won 37 seats from AP which with a national total of 181 seats

The shift of 36 seats from NDA to UPA is what caused the NDA downfall in 2004. If that hasnt happened, it would have been impossible for UPA to build coalition govt.

The roll of BJP in AP is that of a catalyst. It can push TDP into the winning column with its 3-8% vote share.

That is the reason why both BJP and INC are clambering for collations in AP.
BJP's love for Telangana came only after TDP became anti-Modi and there was no chance for it to win any election in seemandhra. These Telangana leaders of BJP like Kishen Reddy in their short sightedness, saw support for a seperate state would give them a healthy share of the 17 seats from Lok Sabha. INC's decision to split AP is also aimed at winning the 17 seats from Telangana.

As far as Karnataka is possible, BJP needs Yeddy's votes to win.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 04 Oct 2013 15:49

Look at the difference between these two tweets.

ANI ‏@ANI_news 5h

Congress has failed to bifurcate AP peacefully by not taking everybody onboard,their own CM is rebel now-Prakash Javadekar,BJP on Telangana

Sushma Swaraj ‏@SushmaSwarajbjp 17h

Heartiest congratulations to people of Telangana. Your struggle has borne fruit.#Telangana

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 04 Oct 2013 16:09

Nageshji, now mafia will have a wave in Telangana areas. For BJP to win anything there alone is not possible easily. Further in 1991 period BJP was a Hindu party. Now after Sushma vomit talk it is a Texarkana party. Had BJp continued dignified NM talk of balancing I am sure pro BJP voter might have voted to them. But now there is anger. We have to recognize there are huge non local votes in Hyderabad and adjoing areas. They normally used to vote for BJP in old days. Now they may vote to CBN. So the dream of going alone while good is unrealistic now. BJp leaders are all part of insults hurled on Non Telangana people for several years. Now NM and others want their vote?. Careful joining of CBN and BJP is required

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 04 Oct 2013 16:26

Sushma and LKA have tobe thrown out of the party for the party's own good. And they can take baggage like shanta kumar while on the way out. Just like nikumma's exit proved a boon in disguise, the wing-clipping/suspension or even expulsion of these internal saboteurs can only be a net positive, IMO.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 04 Oct 2013 17:03

An interesting piece of news.

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/10/04/t ... 41558.html

Protesting against the bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh, Congress MP from Rayalseema region Rayapati Samba Siwaa Rao on Friday resigned from the primary membership of the party while heaping praise on BJP Prime Ministerial candidate Narendra Modi.

Is this significant? Is this just a pressure tactic with the Cong. High Command, or does he mean in earnestly? And if he is serious about joining BJP, how valuable would he be to the BJP?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 04 Oct 2013 17:06

Narayana Rao wrote:Nageshji, now mafia will have a wave in Telangana areas. For BJP to win anything there alone is not possible easily. Further in 1991 period BJP was a Hindu party. Now after Sushma vomit talk it is a Texarkana party. Had BJp continued dignified NM talk of balancing I am sure pro BJP voter might have voted to them. But now there is anger.

Is Sushma's statement valued above that of NaMo's? Personally, I agree with you that SS would have done very well to keep her mouth shut. NaMo is still committed to what he said in Hyderabad. Will that count for nothing?

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 04 Oct 2013 17:14

ashashi wrote:Look at the difference between these two tweets.

ANI ‏@ANI_news 5h

Congress has failed to bifurcate AP peacefully by not taking everybody onboard,their own CM is rebel now-Prakash Javadekar,BJP on Telangana

Sushma Swaraj ‏@SushmaSwarajbjp 17h

Heartiest congratulations to people of Telangana. Your struggle has borne fruit.#Telangana

They are perfectly aligned. BJP's stand has always been that T state should be created for better governance, however the process should be done well. BJP is using two channels to separately highlight both parts of the message.

This is intelligent, some what of a good cop, bad cop strategy.

The people from coastal AP have my sympathises -- but there was no reason to hope that BJP would do otherwise, with or without Modi....

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 04 Oct 2013 17:30

Not while Sushma continue to bday allowed to behave as she now Nageshji. Good work of NM can be undone by few carefully planned backstabbing activities. She wants her state to contest and I bet she will contest from Telangana this time. Mafia may allow her to win also. Today some BJP leaders from coastal AP met her. We do not know the outcome.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 04 Oct 2013 18:14

For whatever it is worth - regarding BJP in coastal AP, there was a rise. Just go to EC site and see for your self. In 1998 it went alone in entire AP and it has won two Parl seats out of 25 on its own without any alliance with TDP. It got a total some 20% of votes in a three cornered contest.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 04 Oct 2013 18:50

Muppalla wrote:For whatever it is worth - regarding BJP in coastal AP, there was a rise. Just go to EC site and see for your self. In 1998 it went alone in entire AP and it has won two Parl seats out of 25 on its own without any alliance with TDP. It got a total some 20% of votes in a three cornered contest.

Saar - BJP had Mudragada Padmanabham then, who brought the Kapu vote en masse in some districts. And it was only in his pocket boroughs (Kakinada and Rajamahendry) that the BJP put up a superb show. Everywhere else in SeemaAndhra, except for Nellore and Vishakhapatnam, the BJP came a cropper. In contrast, the BJP did very well in all the constituencies of Telangana.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 04 Oct 2013 18:58

BJP could declare formation of one or two cities near to Hydrabad on style of twin cities. That could give a clear perception plus easy and orderly work by state as well as people.

Watch out for this getting worse by arbitrary and ad-hoc or outright missteps.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 04 Oct 2013 20:25

ashashi wrote:
Fact is, in 1999 NDA won 270 seats, 36 of which came from AP where UPA/INC won 156 seats with 6 seats from AP.
In 2004, NDA won 0 seats from AP and the national total fell to 218, where as UPA won 37 seats from AP which with a national total of 181 seats

The shift of 36 seats from NDA to UPA is what caused the NDA downfall in 2004. If that hasnt happened, it would have been impossible for UPA to build coalition govt.

The roll of BJP in AP is that of a catalyst. It can push TDP into the winning column with its 3-8% vote share.

That is the reason why both BJP and INC are clambering for collations in AP.
BJP's love for Telangana came only after TDP became anti-Modi and there was no chance for it to win any election in seemandhra. These Telangana leaders of BJP like Kishen Reddy in their short sightedness, saw support for a seperate state would give them a healthy share of the 17 seats from Lok Sabha. INC's decision to split AP is also aimed at winning the 17 seats from Telangana.

As far as Karnataka is possible, BJP needs Yeddy's votes to win.

In fact what you say bolsters my viewpoint only.
Telangana was inevitable as I have mentioned many times here. Hyderabad as UT was impractical idea. Joint Capital is another impractical idea. Talking of revenue and who built what and who lives where and who works where is plain irrelevant as after division, people will continue to enjoy all rights as they are not Telengana citizens but Citizens of India.

Now BJP did not divide the state and take advantage to get established in Telangana in 2004. Otherwise BJP has not hold. When AP supports INC it is able to capture power in centre and when it is not , it looses power.

In NDA rule, It was TDP which had seats and not BJP. When TDP lost magnificently in 2004 all seats went to INC.

BJP has two choices.ake alliance with TDP or some other party . TDP has secular ambitions and like NiKu likely to constrain growth of BJP in its area of influence. I would rate them as unreliable partner, but necessary evil Make most of their predicament and try to limit seat gain by INC. But formation of Two states have complicated the situation. BJP has to try and ensure that come what may, INC doesn't get seats .

About Jagan , in my opinion he is B team of INC. Al most all offshoots of INC has affinity to join them if INC gets into a position of strength. At least CBI can ensure that much.

And one more thing just because there is huge attendance , it doesn't get translated into Votes. For that you need grass root workers. BJP organizational strength in AP TN and KL is very limited. So there may be curiosity factor and not exactly voting crowd at least in these states. If it tuns out otherwise no one can stop BJP from getting 372 on its own. But even NaMo has understood this and his target is 272. Now if he gets MH UP BH Raj, MP CH and JH HP UK Jammu and some in Odisha and WB and allies get more from rest of the India then this is doable. But if he achieves less than 200 then certainly Magic would be called invisible magic. BJP has done much better in past.

But AP would hold key for INC. If it is able to get TL , as it seems likely and SA ( see already we are using abbreviations) with the help of B Team then it would try and slither its way to power. if it looses at least SA and partially TL then it si gone and NaMo would get a chance.

BTW , people are badmouthing LKA and SS without realising that they have built party to its current stage. And perhaps at this point they are deflecting lot of poison spewed by INC towards NaMo. He comes out better than INC by contrast which is amplified by LKA and SS acting as convex lens . Duplicity of INC becomes more obvious as these where the very same leaders of BJP who were demonised earlier by INC. Voters are aware of this cognitive dissonance in INC.

My feelings only. Dont jump on me. Feel free to disagree and correct me. I was depressed when I thought no one can defeat BJP , that was in 2004. Now I am depressed that UPA-III might become reality.

as it is giving all the sops to voters what BKP in its rationalistic fits did not give to its detriment.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 04 Oct 2013 22:16

Now southern power grid is in the danger of collapsing. 6 of the 7 units at Ibrahimpatnam are closed. One more and grid will collapse. Agitation now going into violent mode. We pay for electing mafia.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 04 Oct 2013 22:32

Since 1956 con race is using this as only election gimmick. Now the country is paying price.

Why can't con race do anything without its muddled & divide and rule politics.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 05 Oct 2013 02:45

chaanakya wrote: In NDA rule, It was TDP which had seats and not BJP. When TDP lost magnificently in 2004 all seats went to INC.

In 2004 TDP lost because of the rural farmer vote. TDP ignore the farmer plight.

Now I am depressed that UPA-III might become reality.