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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 17:26
by Antrix
Here is PM Modi's best performing minister (for his community, not for votes or winnability) talking about what Shri Modi government has done for Muslims. They are quite proud of it -
https://twitter.com/jhunjhunuwala_/stat ... 6693414912

Despite all this, Muslims votes have never crossed into double digits for BJP, in any election anywhere in India till date.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 17:28
by vijayk
Prem Kumar wrote:
Holy shit - you are right! Thanks so much for posting this here, with data to back it up.

1) For common welfare like PMAY etc, we can't make it preferential. But that's where the power of organized religion comes in. These ingrates will leech on every single scheme, while turning around and spitting on the very guy/party that provides them. I don't know what RSS and BJP State teams are doing!

2) For minority specific welfare schemes: this is truly like feeding crocodiles! This is completely discretionary and unnecessary. Modi's true Gandhigiri coming to the fore.

As you rightly say, there is no concept of Shatrubodh! You don't strengthen the hand of your enemy, with whom you are in a mortal combat.
Again we are 75%. We also should organize to take advantage of every scheme but we don't

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 19:37
by vijayk
https://twitter.com/Jhunjhunuwala_/stat ... 6693414912
That Rajasthani Guy
@Jhunjhunuwala_
PM आवास योजना : 31% घर मुसलमानों को
PM किसान सम्मान : 33% मुसलमानों को
PM मुद्रा योजना : 36% मुसलमानों को

मोदी जी ने दिए है और लिस्ट अभी बहुत लम्बी है : मुख्तार अब्बास नकवी (Minority Affairs Minister)
Translated from Hindi by
PM Awas Yojana: 31% houses for Muslims
PM Kisan Samman: 33% to Muslims
PM Mudra Yojana: 36% to Muslims

Modi ji has given and the list is still very long: Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi (Minority Affairs Minister)
Bite the hand that feeds seems to be the lesson here

Old clip

https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1114419129090359299

The man got loan waived off for 7 lakh by Yogi. He accepts CON party/SP will never do/did it ... But He will vote for SP only.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 19:48
by chetak
vijayk wrote:https://twitter.com/Jhunjhunuwala_/stat ... 6693414912
That Rajasthani Guy
@Jhunjhunuwala_
PM आवास योजना : 31% घर मुसलमानों को
PM किसान सम्मान : 33% मुसलमानों को
PM मुद्रा योजना : 36% मुसलमानों को


मोदी जी ने दिए है और लिस्ट अभी बहुत लम्बी है : मुख्तार अब्बास नकवी (Minority Affairs Minister)
Translated from Hindi by
PM Awas Yojana: 31% houses for Muslims
PM Kisan Samman: 33% to Muslims
PM Mudra Yojana: 36% to Muslims

Modi ji has given and the list is still very long: Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi (Minority Affairs Minister)
Bite the hand that feeds seems to be the lesson here

Old clip

https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1114419129090359299

The man got loan waived off for 7 lakh by Yogi. He accepts CON party/SP will never do/did it ... But He will vote for SP only.

Does anyone here think that the numbers have been put out without a purpose.....

They already know that no jehadi votes will ever come their way, including those of the burki women.

this is the trailer, picture abhi baaki hai

This is primarily meant for those outside India but it is bound to have an effect here as well.

is this how India ill treats its minorities, with free food, free housing, liberal loans, and in quantities much more than their entitlement

show us another country in the whole world that does this, especially with a hostile bunch who malevolently oppose everything that India stands for

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 20:28
by disha
Larry Walker wrote:So much going on in MH and not a peep from Nitin Gadkari !! Is he really content with building highways and mixing ethanol in petrol and scouting for battery plant sites ??
I think people are missing the strategic change in the way governance is being done under Modi.

It is one thing to become a PM and aspire to become a PM and it is another thing to become a total disaster and become a very bad footnote in history. NG might have realized that it might be his calling to be called THE surface transport minister that took India to the developed country stage.

What's wrong with that glory?
... and his subsequent uvvacchh mostly slighting him post that should have been ringing bells for 2019 assembly polls. ....Someone gave wrong feedback to BJP leadership on DevF's re-electability and later DevF acting little immature to share CMship with UT.
Is there an attempt to whitewash the tremendous crimes of UT and his baby penguin.

But let's take a step back, at BRF we always look in hindsight and say our future vision is 20/1. We remarkably predict the past correctly.

Coming forward, to 2019, DF started breaking the shackles of the cooperative banks. 2019 was in the light of post-demo and post-GST which impacted several corrupt sections of the state immensely. Given that, it could have been very considered decision to go with a pre-poll alliance to increase the chances of a secure majority.

After the backstabbing of UT to all (UT backstabbed DF, BJP, SS and his own heritage) to become Chornia's pidi, and on top of it a disaster and an embarrassment as a CM, what's the point in stating "... DF acting little immature to share CM ship with UT ...". When the evil was all of UT

UT should have followed the Balasaheb model, but no, he (and baby penguin) are such morons that they lost the party completely.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 20:29
by Antrix
chetak wrote:
vijayk wrote:https://twitter.com/Jhunjhunuwala_/stat ... 6693414912


Bite the hand that feeds seems to be the lesson here

Old clip

https://twitter.com/iMac_too/status/1114419129090359299

The man got loan waived off for 7 lakh by Yogi. He accepts CON party/SP will never do/did it ... But He will vote for SP only.

Does anyone here think that the numbers have been put out without a purpose.....

They already know that no jehadi votes will ever come their way, including those of the burki women.

this is the trailer, picture abhi baaki hai

This is primarily meant for those outside India but it is bound to have an effect here as well.

is this how India ill treats its minorities, with free food, free housing, liberal loans, and in quantities much more than their entitlement

show us another country in the whole world that does this, especially with a hostile bunch who malevolently oppose everything that India stands for
IOW, the infamous Log kya kahenge syndrome on steroids.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 21:03
by vijayk
Based on all these, Ideology is important for these voters. They don't care what Govt. did even if it delivered everything. They vote against it unless it helps in their jihad and take advantage of all the schemes to increase their jihad

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 22:03
by chetak
vijayk wrote:Based on all these, Ideology is important. for these voters They don't care what Govt. did even if it delivered everything. They vote against it unless it helps in their jihad and take advantage of all the schemes to increase their jihad
the message was never meant for them.

everyone the world over is well aware of the mentality of such gaddars

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 22:23
by chetak
last week a venal padre said the same thing in a large meeting, well aware that he was being filmed and this week, a scam tainted joker has said it again and that too in the presence of the TN CM who kept quiet.....

Both events have purposely been publicised. That padre had said that the abrahamics should all get together and demand a separate state for themselves and that way, by sheer strength of numbers alone, they will be able to get three states in the south

something foul is brewing

give us "autonomy" or we will be "forced" to secede, which as per him, "secession" was what periyar wanted, to avoid being dominated by "Hindus"

didn't the separatist jehadi scum in cashmere take an identical political position

pappu thinks that he is playing a great game and he has huge support for his "union of states" rubbish. Next in line for "secession" are the genociding jehadis in the neighbouring state

sedition laws were made for such people but the little schitt was devious enough to couch it in terms of what was said by another separatist and traitorous scum called periyar.

best to stamp out the fire before it catches and scatter the ashes. The BIF has been emboldened by global events to take this risk now and they have unmasked a few over ground workers, including pappu.

A debate like this cannot happen in isolation and some sort of BIF events may have moved from the planning to the fruition stage, waiting for the "spark" to ignite the "kerosene" (pappu's spoken words at his recent oxford soiree)


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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 22:50
by vijayk
Thanks to O.P. Saini, CONgi judge, this scum is out on 2G scam.

Time to get his retrial and send him to jail.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 23:04
by vijayk
BTW that Leela garbage lady who put up cigarette smoking Durga seems to be Telugu converted Reddy Xian (same type as Jagan Reddy).

Scum goes around saaying she is Suppressed Dalit

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 23:15
by greatde
Antrix wrote: Muslims beneficiaries make up :
31% of Houses under PMAY
33% Kissan Samman Nidhi
37% LPG Connections
36% Mudra Loans

This is not just appeasement, this is economic & social apartheid for a large number of Hindus by taking away their education & employment rights and handing it over to Muslims. And this is being done by a man who was protected by the UPA traitors by prayers of tens of crores of Hindus. Crores of Hindus of Gujarat and rest of India stood with this man and pushed him to power with a once in a generation mandate NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. All we ask is equality, forget anything else. Give Hindus an equal playground, if you cannot utter a word against Islamic terrorists, then please leave our Gaurakshaks out too, if you can't shed a tear for Kanhaiya Lal, please don't cry for Tabrez too.
That's an embarrassing post. Instead of talking about Hindu causes and solutions, you are concerned with why Muslims get this much. There are many good GOI schemes which is rightfully open to all Indians. And for Modi, your pet-project can't be his priority, there are bigger strategic goals. We are having these discussions and debates, is testament to "safespaces" created by this GOI. That's very important.

More important, are the census figures true? I would think Muslim pop is over 25%? Then, the scheme numbers look suitable. It's the census which has caused big issue. Today, the Hindu are largely affected by the bystander effect. Just because we are 80% on official census, one thinks somebody else can help and resolve the victims and problems. There is little self initiative and will-to do.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 23:20
by V_Raman
Some of these posts about which community benefits from the schemes and how modi is appeasing should be deleted forthwith. It is not in the spirit of the forum. all are indian at the end of the day. we want equality for everyone and that is the goal. we dont want discrimination to move from one community to another.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 05 Jul 2022 23:52
by chetak
vijayk wrote:Thanks to O.P. Saini, CONgi judge, this scum is out on 2G scam.

Time to get his retrial and send him to jail.
did you mean o p $aini......

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 00:31
by kit
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1544079857608314880

Syed Ejaz Ahmad raises cattle in a rooftop barn and every year for the festival of Eid al-Adha he lowers them 40 feet to the ground using a crane before they are sacrificed for their meat
https://twitter.com/i/status/1544079857608314880


:x :x :x

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 01:23
by vmalik
Thought experiment...if Hindus were less than 50 percent of Bharat tomorrow, would you fight for your land (all of it and not just a little piece bereft of Abrahamics) or just surrender and convert?
The reason I ask is, this a "Bharat Rakshak" forum, not "India Rakshak". We've too many fence sitters amongst our midst who'll abandon the cause at first signs of trouble.
Its perfectly reasonable to question why is 0.5 front getting such a massive share of the freebies.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 01:33
by chetak
vijayk wrote:Thanks to O.P. Saini, CONgi judge, this scum is out on 2G scam.

Time to get his retrial and send him to jail.

the same goons are "honoring" ltte prabhakaran


It is beginning to look like the same old BIF eelam game all over again

Let things unfold

a. raja can be cured immediately by speeding up the 2G Scam appeal in delhi high court

venal christian priest with ties to dmk instigates mu$l!m$ to demand a separate electorate and separate sovereign land. the origins of the original demand for eelam is from this clown's parent organization




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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 01:50
by vijayk
SO ALTNEWS scums got a lot of money from foreign sources


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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 02:59
by chetak
this remark epitomizes what’s wrong with our judicial system


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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 03:32
by RajeevK
So as per the esteemed judge of the Supreme Court, India cannot be classified as a mature democracy. This is a very elitist and feudal statement and it is like the argument hat India should not be granted independence as they are not fit to govern themselves.
People were not commenting on the judgement but on the sermonising and blaming the victim which in any case was not part of the judgement,

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 05:23
by vimal
Melords are the vestiges of the British raj. Brown sahibs carrying the mantle of white people.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 06:47
by Atmavik
^^^ the way things were going under current cji this backlash against the judiciary was inevitable. Wish president Shri kovind orders the judiciary to keep out of politics

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 06:56
by vijayk
The Toys imports of India down by 70% and export has been increased exports ...

https://www.kooapp.com/koo/meghupdates/ ... 1bf742495b

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 07:18
by Ambar
vimal wrote:Melords are the vestiges of the British raj. Brown sahibs carrying the mantle of white people.
Not just melards but our civil service, police service and to an extent the officer class of armed forces are all vestiges of colonial British Raj and in dire need of reforms. But we all know how severe the blow back will be if any of these holy cows are touched. Abhijit Iyer-Mitra seems to think the goremint will attempt another go at the NJAC before elections, i somehow don't see it happening.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 07:23
by vimal
^^ They lacked the spine 8 years ago to do the reform so I won’t hold my breath

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 07:34
by Kaivalya
Here is a maulana offering his house for murder.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/i- ... ar-AAZcXgN

I thought sufism thaught extra love, extra music and extra peace than brotherhood's :eek:

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 08:57
by Antrix
V_Raman wrote:Some of these posts about which community benefits from the schemes and how modi is appeasing should be deleted forthwith. It is not in the spirit of the forum. all are indian at the end of the day. we want equality for everyone and that is the goal. we dont want discrimination to move from one community to another.
You want equality for all, do the rest of these “Indians” want to treat you as an equal.

Hindus should first be clear on two things- what is India and who is an Indian. A western style nation-state created in 1947 cannot be the final page in the history of a 15000 year old civilization.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 10:04
by Sachin
For pretty much one week now, there are only negative things coming up about Central Govt and BJP. Get a feeling that if elections happen today Vishwaguru may have to seek premature retirement and go back to GJ.
Domestic LPG cylinder costlier from today. Check rates. New rate per cylinder is Rs. 1053.
Centre willing to introduce stricter social media norms, says IT minister Ashwini Vaishnaw. This is when there has not been a squeak against the 'observations' coming in from higher judiciary which is not part of the official written verdict. Can be discussed at appropriate forum, says Kiren Rijiju on SC judges’ oral remarks on Nupur Sharma case, ‘not proper’ as law minister, he adds.

This plus all the statistical information on how minority communities still get preferential treatment (see posts above) clearly makes a depressing reading. The only saving grace is the events at MH.
vijayk wrote:Again we are 75%. We also should organize to take advantage of every scheme but we don't
I sincerely hope that in states where BJP & RSS have more grass root connects things may be better. And disadvantaged Hindus at least would be given right directions. On Social media there was a letter floating around. It was said to be circulated by the Muslim Jamaa'At type organisation in Kerala. The letter even got the name/spelling of Agneepath wrong. But it urged the local organisations that able bodied Muslim youth are guided to join the forces using this scheme so that they have 'adequate numbers' there as well. This is how they understand the opportunities and utilize it. Mean while the average Kerala Hindu would be there loitering around KL thinking about temple elephants and some easy job.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 10:18
by Sachin
vijayk wrote:SO ALTNEWS scums got a lot of money from foreign sources
Notice how the progressive liberal cabal is trying to pressurize RazorPay to flout the law to help AltNews fraudsters. It also shows the kind of naiveity among progressive liberal gang if they believe that payment gateways and banks have zero accountability to the government or judiciary.
chetak wrote:the same goons are "honoring" ltte prabhakaran
Wow! Perarivalan and his mother Arputhammal is also there at the venue. And it was his supporters who went along saying that Perarivalan was an innocent boy who only bought some 9V batteries. In that way Nalini (another accused) seems to be more truthful. In her biography she clearly says that all these folks clearly knew what LTTE was, and she adds that she like many Indian Tamil youth of those years sympathised with the LTTE.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 10:27
by madhu
chetak wrote: Does anyone here think that the numbers have been put out without a purpose.....
They already know that no jehadi votes will ever come their way, including those of the burki women.
yes sir this is for the purpose of M votes ONLY. you might think otherwise but not everyone. do you think this will change or have any impact on Arab world. NO. they are more worried out their kingdom. all the issues they they rise is to settle the score or for their strategic gain. they are least Islamic. please don't confuse with what they do or talk against. if they are hurt by Md and Aisha they how come they have no issues in printing/selling the book
"Obscenity: The Other Face of Aisha". you know who is the author. it is by Shaikh Yaser Alhabib a Alma in Kuwait University. Indian subcontinet muslims are different and Arab are different.

now other will be US. have you ever seen the kind of words US uses? when it comes to Pakistan it is "shared interests" but with india it is always "shared values" you know in larger politics its interest that trumps the values.

the Interest of gaining M votes has made modi to give such exorbitant concession.
chetak wrote:this is the trailer, picture abhi baaki hai
i will wait for 56D chess to see what he will do.
greatde wrote:That's an embarrassing post. Instead of talking about Hindu causes and solutions, you are concerned with why Muslims get this much.
sorry sir. it is not an embarrassing post, it is extremely important post. let me tell you. if the population is 14.2% and all the indicators are crossing >30% then i have 2 doubts, a) is the Muslim population under estimated or was there a sudden jump? b) was there a strategically some people are pushing more Muslims than Hindus.

more than that the party that says we will not do appeasement is doing more appeasement in the name of "sabka sath". Take for example there are so many killing happening in India where people are getting killed for twitter/FB post that says #IsupportNupur what "sath" governament has given to them? just coz name change of a city has happened in Maharashtra and telling that name, Ms have killed a Hindu what "Sath" given there. There are many many report of threat calls coming for the people who had posted #IsupportNupur, what government has done other than great "Sanh yatra" to reach out to Ms.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 10:44
by SRajesh
Madhuji
I also wonder if : The Lady of Heaven is banned in India or people have not heard about it???
Not a word from India but in UK there were demonstrations etc but the shathidoots later quietened done as they did not want to draw more attention and make the movie popular!!

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 10:58
by SRajesh
A question:
Aalam, a 28-year-old refugee living in Jammu, tells Outlook that hundreds of refugees have fled the camp in Jammu because they fear being separated from their families. Left with no money for travelling, they often end up selling their belongings. “We have sold everything, including fans, coolers and refrigerators, because we need money to leave this place,” says Aalam, whose siblings and mother are living in the Cox’s Bazaar refugee camp in Bangladesh.
Who is funding these vermin the the luxuries of life : Mind boggling isn't it refugees with cooler/refrigerator/fans :eek:

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 12:17
by Lisa
Antrix wrote:
Hindus should first be clear on two things- what is India and who is an Indian. A western style nation-state created in 1947 cannot be the final page in the history of a 15000 year old civilization.
Antrixji,

Well done for writting this.

IMHO, this is the ONLY question that really exists. All and sundary are in a rush to use the constitution to define/describe India. It is an irrelevant recent document that cannot define/describe a 15,000 year old civilization and until that fact is understood we will remain a lost people. This FACT needs to be explained in particular to our judges who do not seem to have a clue of who we are and haven't even the remotest understanding of what their own cultural background is.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 12:35
by Cyrano
V_Raman wrote:Some of these posts about which community benefits from the schemes and how modi is appeasing should be deleted forthwith. It is not in the spirit of the forum. all are indian at the end of the day. we want equality for everyone and that is the goal. we dont want discrimination to move from one community to another.
Hey raam ! When one community is playing football and the other rugby where will this equality/equity mindset lead to saar? And when one community keeps score on rugby rules and other football rules then who should be declared winner (ie material and social success/dominance) ?

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 13:11
by ricky_v
https://www.news18.com/news/india/groun ... 98737.html
With Assam losing its satras — institutional centres associated with the Ekasarana tradition of Vaishnavism that were among the state’s pride of place — to Bangladeshi infiltrators for years, chief minister Himanta Biswa Sarma has formed a committee to look into the issue.

The panel, which was to submit its report in June, is carrying out further investigation and its report is expected in the next two months.
Speaking to CNN-NEWS18, MLA Pradip Hazarika, who is leading the committee, said, “The Bangladeshis were allowed to come and settle illegally as vote banks. Some of them were even given land rights, which, of course, can’t be put into effect. Satra land can’t be handed over to non-Hindus.”

There are allegations that some satradhikars were murdered by encroachers.

Speaking to CNN-NEWS18 exclusively, Satradhikar Devananda Dev Goswami said: “Our ancestors got some people from East Bengal for cultivation, so they could help the satras get good crop. But that proved to be a mistake. These people never returned. They have now encroached upon huge properties of all the satras around the state. Even after filing three cases against these illegal encroachments, the then Congress government paid no heed. Instead, they were given ryotwari patta, the occupancy right.”
The locals of Botodrawa said they are living among the encroachers in fear. “We can’t even rear our cattle as they take them away. We have stopped buying cows. It costs Rs 3 lakh to buy a cow and then these miscreants take them away. There are incidents of theft, rapes and kidnapping by illegal encroachers.”

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 14:41
by madhu
Rsatchi wrote:Madhuji
I also wonder if : The Lady of Heaven is banned in India or people have not heard about it???
Not a word from India but in UK there were demonstrations etc but the shathidoots later quietened done as they did not want to draw more attention and make the movie popular!!
no one knows what that movie is. i just saw a while understood it is shia-sunni issue so left it in the middle.

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 15:47
by IndraD
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Punjab CM Bhagwant Maan will marry Dr Kaur tomorrow

Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 16:18
by chetak
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Posted: 06 Jul 2022 16:38
by chetak
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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Posted: 06 Jul 2022 17:43
by vijayk
https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/marking ... n-1-month/

Marking Nupur Sharma as a ‘blasphemer’, cheering backlash against India, watching while Islamists rioted and killed: Zubair’s Twitter in 1 month

An in-depth analysis of tweets of last one month of Mohammed Zubair of Alt News starting from dog-whistling against Nupur Sharma over 'blasphemy' to his eventual arrest on similar charges.