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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 05:55
by skumar
Amber G. wrote: 06 Nov 2025 05:05 ^^^ Good job by Neal Katyal arguing in Supreme Court.
Yes, Neal Katyal did much better than the US Solicitor General Sauer who was talking way too fast and was called out for it. Sauer is going to get skinned for a loss.

Just hope SC does not take some middle path that Trump would immediately claim as a victory.

Having taken on half the world, every one of these countries would love to take a front seat to watch him eat crow even if they say nice things in front of him.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 05:56
by Vayutuvan
From Wikipedia
Early life and education
Neal Katyal was born on March 12, 1970,[citation needed] in Chicago, Illinois, to immigrant parents originally from India.[6][7] His mother, Pratibha, is a pediatrician and his father, Surendar, who died in 2005, was an engineer. Katyal's sister, Sonia, is also an attorney and teaches law at University of California, Berkeley School of Law.

Neal Katyal studied at Loyola Academy, a Jesuit Catholic high school in Wilmette, Illinois. In 1991 he graduated from Dartmouth College, where he was a member of Phi Beta Kappa, Sigma Nu fraternity, and the Dartmouth Forensic Union.[8]

Katyal then attended Yale Law School.[8] He was an editor of the Yale Law Journal and studied under Akhil Amar and Bruce Ackerman, with whom in 1995 and 1996 he published articles in law-review and political-opinion journals. After receiving his J.D. (Juris Doctor) degree in 1995, Katyal clerked for Judge Guido Calabresi of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, then for Justice Stephen Breyer of the United States Supreme Court.[9]

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 06:04
by Vayutuvan
That said, I saw Prof. Akhil Amar on TV once before when he was part of a panel debating the invasion of Afghanistan (or was it Iraq). The panel was on what is a just war. His arguments were very sophisticated and impressive. Since Katyal was his student, I would say Katyal is also quite sharp despite his getting brainwashed at a Catholic Jesuit convent school.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 09:09
by Cain Marko
Vayutuvan wrote: 06 Nov 2025 06:04 That said, I saw Prof. Akhil Amar on TV once before when he was part of a panel debating the invasion of Afghanistan (or was it Iraq). The panel was on what is a just war. His arguments were very sophisticated and impressive. Since Katyal was his student, I would say Katyal is also quite sharp despite his getting brainwashed at a Catholic Jesuit convent school.
Catholic schools and colleges are extremely liberal in the West. Almost cutting edge progressive except possibly the abortion issue.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 09:58
by uddu
https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1986060978329670138
@RichardHanania
You can often be skeptical about whether online controversies affect voters. But the anti-Indian hate is so out of control and over the top that I think people were bound to notice.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 10:08
by A_Gupta
Trump ups the ante: "Eight planes, seven planes were shot down — an eighth was really badly wounded [sic]. But eight planes were shot down essentially,” he said.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 17:00
by gakakkad
^ 8th one probably refers to an awacs or Jordanian f16 that was badly destroyed. Likely enough remained for them to cannibalize parts is probably what he meant by badly wounded .

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 21:15
by Rudradev
You can note the magnitude of (unattributed) plane losses rising in Trump's speeches, and infer the concurrent increase in begging from Shahbaz and Munir to the White House from which Trump is getting this information:

"Allah ke naam pe $2 billion de de baba, Endiya ne humaare 4 plane giraa diye..."

"Allah ke naam pe $4 billion de de baba, Endiya ne humaare 8 plane giraa diye..."

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 21:23
by Rakesh
Trump is setting up the ground work to deliver new F-16s to Pakistan.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 22:21
by Rudradev
^^Quite likely he wants to deliver new F-16s, AMRAAMs and more to Pakistan. But no US govt before has felt the need to 'pitch' or 'set the stage' for supplying weapons to Pakistan through such public pronouncements, even when they did in fact provide arms to Pakistan.

I wonder why this difference in approach. Is Trump mentioning this again and again as messaging to the Pakis-- reminding them
(1) that he knows how many planes THEY lost in Sindoor
(2) they are dependent on him to replenish these losses-- dangling the carrot by implication
(3) that while for now, he is not openly specifying these losses as PAF planes, he COULD humiliate Pakistan by revealing the truth if they reneg on their promises to America vis-a-vis Iran/Gaza/etc?

(2) could also be messaging to India-- give me what I want or I'll give F-16s to the Pakis.

Trump is the kind of guy who leverages public pronouncements as a pressure tactic to influence private negotiations, so everything he says should be examined in this light.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 22:33
by Manish_P
Apologies if this is OT for this thread - wanted to check if there is any data on gun ownership by Indian origin people in the US.

The koreans, I read somewhere, armed themselves during previous riots (LA - Rodney King ?)

With MAGA, MSM and others painting a crosshair on Indians it will be wise if they prepare themselves for the possible troubles ahead.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 23:20
by williams
Rudradev wrote: 06 Nov 2025 22:21 ^^Quite likely he wants to deliver new F-16s, AMRAAMs and more to Pakistan. But no US govt before has felt the need to 'pitch' or 'set the stage' for supplying weapons to Pakistan through such public pronouncements, even when they did in fact provide arms to Pakistan.

I wonder why this difference in approach. Is Trump mentioning this again and again as messaging to the Pakis-- reminding them
(1) that he knows how many planes THEY lost in Sindoor
(2) they are dependent on him to replenish these losses-- dangling the carrot by implication
(3) that while for now, he is not openly specifying these losses as PAF planes, he COULD humiliate Pakistan by revealing the truth if they reneg on their promises to America vis-a-vis Iran/Gaza/etc?

(2) could also be messaging to India-- give me what I want or I'll give F-16s to the Pakis.

Trump is the kind of guy who leverages public pronouncements as a pressure tactic to influence private negotiations, so everything he says should be examined in this light.
Oh he is messaging India, but is not going to get what he wants. Pakis need to act fast before his attention moves on to other issues. Otherwise they are going to be dumped as usual :rotfl:

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 23:28
by Vayutuvan
Manish_P wrote: 06 Nov 2025 22:33 Apologies if this is OT for this thread - wanted to check if there is any data on gun ownership by Indian origin people in the US.
I will give WAG, but in the Understanding the US thread, if you please. That would be the correct place IMHO.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 06 Nov 2025 23:29
by Vayutuvan
Manish_P wrote: 06 Nov 2025 22:33 Apologies if this is OT for this thread - wanted to check if there is any data on gun ownership by Indian origin people in the US.
...
Could you post the question there? Responses can refer to your question right there, rather than here and also there.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 02:12
by Amber G.
He had gone quiet on India for a while....He’s back....
Trump has told India to stop buying oil from Russia, US commerce secretary

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 02:28
by Mort Walker
Vayutuvan wrote: 06 Nov 2025 23:29
Manish_P wrote: 06 Nov 2025 22:33 Apologies if this is OT for this thread - wanted to check if there is any data on gun ownership by Indian origin people in the US.
...
Could you post the question there? Responses can refer to your question right there, rather than here and also there.
It’s higher than you think.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 04:14
by sanjaykumar
Yes, it’s 0.0001%.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 07:01
by Manish_P
Mort Walker wrote: 07 Nov 2025 02:28
It’s higher than you think.

@Mort Walker I think (rather I would like to think) about one in five. Is it more than that? Any data?

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 07:33
by Vayutuvan
Manish_P wrote: 07 Nov 2025 07:01 @Vayutuvan which thread is suitable?

@Mort Walker I think (rather I would like to think) about one in five. Is it more than that? Any data?
Oh well. I was suggesting "Understanding the US" dhaga. But now we are going on here, I am sure it is far less than 1 in 5. I would say 1/10 or even less than that.

Only those who are in the Motel/liquor shop/gas station business would be packing a gun, maybe 1 in 2.

The problems are many. What if you get into a firefight and pull the trigger too soon? You might have really fired in self-defense, but you would still have to prove that it was self-defense in court.

See all the cases that have been going on, even though folks fired in self-defense. A lot of incidents happened during the BLM protests, Antifa vandalism, and the Proud Boys going around with guns, etc. Even police officers had to prove that they fired in self-defense.

What chance a "pagan demon-worshipping polytheist Hindu" would have against a knifewielding drunk white male or a Muslim or even a drug-addled AA in front of a grand jury? We will be judged guilty and will be crucified. It will be worse if you have a Brahmin or "upper caste" surname.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 07:50
by Rudradev
Do forward to anyone you know who might be affected.

https://indiacurrents.com/100000south-a ... ine-erased

100,000+South Asian Families Face Job Loss After 540-Day EAD Visa Lifeline Erased
The math is cruel, writes Ajay Bhutoria: families losing automatic extension to EAD visa renewals face income loss, driver’s license expiry, and green card freezes

by Ajay Jain Bhutoria
November 6, 2025


Estimated reading time: 4 minutes

Erasure of the 540-day automatic EAD extension puts lives on hold

I stared at the Federal Register on Thursday and felt the floor drop.

The 540-day automatic EAD extension I personally fought to create—through sleepless nights, 37 drafts, and a direct recommendation approved by President Biden’s AANHPI Commission—was gone in one paragraph.

On October 30, 2025, DHS killed it.

Any renewal filed on or after that date gets zero grace period.

Your card expires → your job dies → your family’s dreams pause unless renewed on time.

My Personal Stake


In 2022, I presented my recommendation for automated EAD renewal to the AANHPI Commission to “Save 1 Million Families.”

“Extend auto-renewal from 180 to 540 days.”

On May 3, 2022, they signed it into law. That single sentence kept 1.2 million legal workers—mostly Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Sri Lankan, Chinese, and several other countries on payroll while USCIS caught up.

Last week, Trump ‘unsigned’ it.

My phone has not stopped ringing since Thursday.

A software engineer from Hyderabad, a nurse from Kerala, a data scientist from Colombo, and an ERP developer from Dhaka – all asking the same terrified question:

“Ajay bhai, my EAD expires in February. If USCIS takes eight months, do I lose my job, my health insurance, my child’s school?”

The answer, unfortunately, thanks to President Trump’s latest executive stroke, is yes—unless you filed your renewal BEFORE October 30.

Who Loses?

100,000+ Indian H-4 spouses I met in temple parking lots.

OPT STEM grads from IIT, NUST, and Moratuwa who just landed Google offers.

Nepali TPS nurses who kept Boston hospitals alive during COVID.

One WhatsApp voice note from Priya in Fremont:

“Ajay bhai, I was the breadwinner when my husband lost his H-1B. Your 540 days saved us. What do I tell my daughter now?”


The Math Is Cruel

Card expires: 1 March 2026

File on: 3 Nov 2025

USCIS average: 7.5 months

Approval: 15 June 2026

Your gap: 106 days × $280/day = $29,680 gone

Do that for 100,000 South Asian homes = $3 billion vanished.

Five Actions I’m Begging You to Take

Screenshot your expiry date – right now.

File I-765 online tonight at my.uscis.gov (180 days early is no longer early enough).

Pay $520 + $85 biometric – fee waiver link in my bio.

Forward your I-797C receipt to HR titled “URGENT: EAD GAP LOOMING.”

Text “540” to +1-650-XXX-XXXX – I’ll add you to my daily alert chain.

Premium processing ($1,500) is now cheaper than one month unemployed.

Trump just deleted it.

The New Reality for South Asian Homes

• H-4 spouses: 100,000+ Indian women must now quit the moment their card expires.

• OPT STEM graduates: A fresh IITian’s Google offer letter becomes worthless if USCIS takes 200 days.

• TPS nurses: A Nepali caregiver in Boston loses her shift—and her apartment—overnight.

• L-2 entrepreneurs: A Pakistani 7-Eleven owner watches the franchise pull the keys.

Average gap: 4–7 months without salary.

Average loss per family: $35,000–$60,000.

Total hit to our community: $3–5 billion in 2026 alone.

Everyday Hurdles Starting Now

1. Mortgages stall – banks freeze lines of credit when pay stubs stop.

2. Kids switch schools

3. Remittances dry up – aging parents in Hyderabad, Delhi, Dhaka, Kathmandu, Lahore, or Colombo, skip support

4. Driver’s licenses expire – tied to EAD in 17 states.

5. Green-card clocks freeze – any employment gap can trigger “public charge” denials.

Quiet Changes You Can Make Today

File I-765 online tonight – 180 days early is the new bare minimum.

• Screenshot your receipt (I-797C) and email HR: “Possible unpaid leave Q1 2026.”

• Ask your employer about short-term disability or company-paid premium processing ($1,500).

• Save three months’ expenses in a separate “EAD Gap” account—start with $500 this week.

A Thread of Hope

USCIS still has 22,000 unused H-1B visas this year.

Congress still has bipartisan backlog bills gathering dust.

And every Sunday, several South Asian volunteers still cook meals with me for the homeless—proof that when we move together, systems listen.

Your story is still being written.

File early.

Plan calmly.

Lean on the auntie-uncle network that carried us through Y2K, 9/11, and H-1B issues.

We built Silicon Valley with less than this.

We will protect our families with more.

One renewal at a time.



Tagged:#@Ajainb#Ajay Jain Bhutoria#H4 visa#H4-EAD visa#OPT-STEM visa#TPS nursesL-2 Visa

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 10:17
by Amber G.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 10:31
by Amber G.
Amber G. wrote: 06 Nov 2025 05:05 ^^^ Good job by Neal Katyal arguing in Supreme Court.
For those who are interested, a good read:
Court appears dubious of Trump’s tariffs

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 07 Nov 2025 23:06
by Mort Walker
Manish_P wrote: 07 Nov 2025 07:01
Mort Walker wrote: 07 Nov 2025 02:28
It’s higher than you think.
@Mort Walker I think (rather I would like to think) about one in five. Is it more than that? Any data?
It will vary by state. CA, IL, NJ, NY & northeast states less. GA, FL, AZ & TX more.

You generally get an idea of who has by how often they visit the gun range. Almost no Indian origin persons visit the range. Aside from that, more Indian doctors & businessmen do for home self-defense. I would advise anyone thinking about it to get training and a concealed carry license, even if they have no intention of doing so, for self-protection & allows you to be vetted by state police. There is also a concern to ensure your home owner's insurance and umbrella insurance policy cover gun use. It's along the lines of being covered if you have a swimming pool.

There is also gun maintenance you have to consider too. It's a mechanical machine that if not used, it may not work or misfire/explode. Years back I had .357 that caused a fire after a couple of rounds, but didn't jam. My advice is to look at revolvers as opposed to pistols with cartridges for reliability. The problem is accuracy. I would stay away from pistols like Glock which are easy to use, but don't have a safety. A shotgun may be preferable like the Benelli M4 that sells for $2,000. A rifle such as the Indian Army's Sig Saur 716i is sold in the US for about $1,600. I really wish Kalyani Group and SSS Defence would export to the US. They would make a ton of money.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 08 Nov 2025 02:50
by Amber G.
Meanwhile:
Mega defence deal: India inks $1 billion pact with US firm GE for 113 fighter jet engines; delivery from 2027

Indian state-owned firm Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) on Friday announced a $1 billion deal with US-based General Electric (GE) to supply 113 jet engines and a support package for India’s 97 LCA Mk1A fighter aircraft program.
Sharing a post on X, HAL said, "The Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has entered into an agreement with General Electric Company, USA, on 7th November 2025 for the supply of 113 Nos of F404-GE-IN20 engines and support package for execution of 97 LCA Mk1A programme."
The company added that engine deliveries will take place between 2027 and 2032. The contract for the 97 LCA Mk1A aircraft was earlier signed in September 2025.
"The engine deliveries would be from 2027 to 2032. The contract for 97 LCA Mk 1A was signed in September 2025," HCL added.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 08 Nov 2025 03:55
by Amber G.
Trump's Another claim:
... Kazakhstan joining Abraham Accords..

(Kazakhastan already has full diplomatic ties with Israel since 1992. Both countries have had respective embassies in their capitals as well.


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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 08 Nov 2025 06:33
by A_Gupta
^^^ Well, the Kazakh newspaper also says so.

Kazakh MFA Confirms Kazakhstan’s Accession to Abraham Accords After Trump–Tokayev Talks
https://astanatimes.com/2025/11/kazakh- ... yev-talks/
ASTANA — The Kazakh Foreign Affairs Ministry has officially announced its accession to the Abraham Accords, marking a significant step in its foreign policy agenda. The decision, according to the ministry’s statement released on Nov. 7, was made “solely in the interests of Kazakhstan” and is “fully consistent with the nation’s balanced, constructive, and peaceful foreign policy.”

“Joining the Abraham Accords will contribute to strengthening our country’s cooperation with all interested states and, therefore, is fully in line with Kazakhstan’s strategic goals. Kazakhstan will continue to firmly advocate for a just, comprehensive, and sustainable settlement of the Middle East conflict based on international law, relevant UN resolutions, and the principle of “two states for two peoples,” the statement reads.
IMO, Trump's behavior like the potentate of an OIC state is what is making this possible. All those leaders understand him, he is just like them.

IMO, no active conflicts in the world is good for India's single-minded pursuit of Viksit Bharat 1947. India needs IMEC, and needs diminution in the US-Iran hostility. If Trump can deliver some of that, three cheers for whatever he delivers.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 08 Nov 2025 11:15
by Amber G.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 10 Nov 2025 03:56
by Amber G.
Posting for all the fans out here -- Trump says he’ll send everyone a $2,000 check because we’re raking in money from tariffs. :wink:
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 10 Nov 2025 23:22
by uddu
https://x.com/marinebharat/status/1987903891632242695
@marinebharat
United States Air Force flying from Karachi to Lahore
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 10 Nov 2025 23:35
by uddu
https://x.com/VivekSi85847001/status/19 ... 1071952293
@VivekSi85847001
So last batch of 3 Apaches Attack Helicopter were returned back to KIWA as per this update

https://x.com/KiwaSpotter/status/1987656105305247899
@KiwaSpotter
The 3 Indian Army Apaches were returned back to KIWA today by the same An-124 that picked them up.

They never made it to India and instead spent 8 days at East Midlands Airport (EMA) in the UK before the An-124 brought them back.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 11 Nov 2025 03:36
by drnayar
uddu wrote: 10 Nov 2025 23:35 https://x.com/VivekSi85847001/status/19 ... 1071952293
@VivekSi85847001
So last batch of 3 Apaches Attack Helicopter were returned back to KIWA as per this update

https://x.com/KiwaSpotter/status/1987656105305247899
@KiwaSpotter
The 3 Indian Army Apaches were returned back to KIWA today by the same An-124 that picked them up.

They never made it to India and instead spent 8 days at East Midlands Airport (EMA) in the UK before the An-124 brought them back.
Recent American Airforce exercise with India: F35s were supposed to take part., americans dumbed it down to one B1B lancer

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 11 Nov 2025 04:16
by V_Raman
All these tariffs are a way for USA to pay down its 37T debt. otherwise, they are in deep s**T!!

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 11 Nov 2025 06:48
by uddu
https://x.com/mks91_/status/1958433333895151756
@OfficeOfDGP
INPUT

Repeat of 2013 Patna is possible. Pet dog was in capital few days ago and was given pan Parag by White panda

@HMOIndia

@narendramodi

@PMOIndia
9:14 AM · Aug 21, 2025

@mks91_
Pet dog (Asim Munir) was in Capital (Capitol Hill, Washington DC) few days ago and was given Pan Parag (Supari) by White Panda (White House or Pentagon).

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 11 Nov 2025 07:02
by Amber G.
Our hearts are with those affected by the terrible explosion in New Delhi. We continue to closely monitor the situation. Our sincere condolences to the families who lost their loved ones. Praying for the speedy recovery of those injured
- :roll: US State Dept. :roll:

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 11 Nov 2025 08:18
by Amber G.
Donald Trump announces U.S. will cut 50% tariff on India

Right now, tariffs on India are very high because of Russian oil. They have reduced purchases from Russia. So yeah, we will be bringing the tariffs on India down,”
-Trump announces

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 12 Nov 2025 02:30
by Amber G.
Trump's USA , much like Munir's Pakistan, seems to believe in “good terror” vs “bad terror.”..
Entirely Shameless and evil.

Just compare the State Department’s statements on the terror attack in India and the explosion in Pakistan - the contrast speaks for itself.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 12 Nov 2025 03:56
by Amber G.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 12 Nov 2025 04:11
by Mort Walker
Amber G. wrote: 11 Nov 2025 08:18 Donald Trump announces U.S. will cut 50% tariff on India

Right now, tariffs on India are very high because of Russian oil. They have reduced purchases from Russia. So yeah, we will be bringing the tariffs on India down,”
-Trump announces
No he hasn't. All talk. Most of the frozen shrimp sold in Costco was from India, but now it's coming from Vietnam and Central America.

Besides the shitty DoS statement, note that yesterday Trump had Erika Kirk in the Oval Office for Sergio Gor's swearing-in ceremony. This was symbolic as Charlie Kirk was noted for his anti-India stand. Charlie Kirk declared that legal immigration from India was a bad thing for America.
America does not need more visas for people from India. Perhaps no form of legal immigration has so displaced American workers as those from India. Enough already. We’re full. Let’s finally put our own people first.

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 12 Nov 2025 05:11
by Amber G.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of those who were lost in the terrible explosion in New Delhi last night. We wish a swift recovery to those who were injured. r
- :eek: Ambassador Sergio Gor :eek:

Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

Posted: 12 Nov 2025 06:42
by Amber G.
US President Donald Trump says,
"We're making a deal with India, a much different deal than we had in the past. So right now, they don't love me, but they'll love us again. We're getting a fair deal, just a fair trade deal. We had pretty unfair trade deals...But we're getting close. Scott, I think we're pretty close to doing a deal that's good for everybody, right?.