Bharat Rakshak

Cyrano wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 13:13 I stand corrected. They did extract confessions albeit in bollywood style

Didn't stop the See Aye Yay boys in Guantanamo Cuba either

VI@WA

The Trojan Horse within the Indian Judiciary.

Nineteen years ago, Mumbai the financial capital of India, was rocked by serial bomb blasts, in one of the deadliest terrorist attacks on India.

Within 11 minutes, seven pressure cooker bombs ripped through the first class compartments of Mumbai local trains during peak hours and killed 209 innocent civilians. 800 people were injured, many of them maimed permanently and ended up in wheel-chairs for life.

This attack was carried out by sleeper cells in India itself, belonging to the banned terrorist group Indian Mujahideen.

12 Peacefuls were convicted for the blast - out of which 5 were awarded the death sentence and 7 were given life imprisonment by a special MCOCA court in 2015.

Today after 18 years of prosecution, the Mumbai High Court acquitted all 12 of the tεrror convicts and allowed them to walk free. So nobody is responsible for the deaths of innocent Indians.

But the most disturbing fact is that these guys were represented in court by Dr. S. Muralidhar, former Chief Justice of Orissa High Court.

Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind provided legal aid in this case and engaged a team of lawyers, that included Dr. Muralidhar, to fight for the accused.

This man was twice nominated by the collegium for elevation to Supreme Court. However the government put its foot down and didn't budge.

Imagine what kind of judgements he would have given if he had been elevated to the apex court; and also why the collegium was so desperate to place him there?

About Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, it is the same organization which has been consistently fighting on behalf of several Jih@di tεrrorists.

Here is a list of some other cases where JUH provided legal aid to the accused Jih@dis :

▪ 2019 Kamlesh Tiwari Murder.
▪ 26/11 Mumbai Terror Attacks.
▪ 2002 Akshardham Temple Attack.
▪ 2010 German Bakery Bomb Blast.
▪ 2010 Chinnaswamy Stadium Bomb Blast.
▪ 2011 Zaveri Bazaar Serial Blasts.
▪ Indian Mujahideen conspiracy cases.
▪ SIMI conspiracy case (Madhya Pradesh).
▪ Ghatkopar Blasts.
▪ Al-Qaeda Module in Uttar Pradesh.
▪ ISIS Conspiracy Cases.
▪ Lashkar Connection Case.

Between Islamic organizations like JUH which fund the legal battles of tεrrorists, retired judges like Muralidhar who use their extensive knowledge of the legal system and its loopholes to fight for them and courts which overturn previous convictions - the enemy that we are fighting against is within our own walls.

For terrorism, we must have separate fast-track NIA courts that don't roll up under the SC. Normal detention rules, interrogation techniques, evidentiary procedures etc must not apply to them

Yes, it has potential for abuse, but these are basic requirements to fight Islamic Terrorism

I am not sure HC is to blame on this one given how slip shod the investigation was. Chain of evidence were not followed, even in name which is basic requirement. I am the last person to defend the arbitrary judges that we have who are more interested in giving gyaan and quoting philosophers than the judgement, but in this case, should we blame them?

The other point is what was the prosecution doing in this case? They 100% had all knowledge of investigation and even a fresh LLB pass would have pointed this out - why didn’t they take whatever preventive measures or amend the chargesheet accordingly? I think it was a cynical attempt that they knew it would fly in MCOCA court but wouldn’t on appeals: by that time it wasn’t their problem as they would have retired and the undertrial would spend time in jail anyway…

Chorlonology :
1. The Prime Minister also held a security meeting at his residence attended by Home Minister Shivraj Patil, National Security Advisor M K Narayanan, and Home Secretary V K Duggal.

2. On 21 July 2006, police arrested three people suspected to be involved in the bombings.[36] Police had detained more than 300 suspects since 18 July but these were the first arrests in the case.[37] Two of the men were detained on Thursday in the northern state of Bihar and the third later in Mumbai.[38][39] All three are said to belong to the banned SIMI organisation. On the same day, Abdul Karim Tunda was thought to be arrested in Mombasa, Kenya on suspicions of involvement in the train bombings.[40] but it was the wrong person. He was one of India's most wanted men and also a suspected organiser for the banned terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba.[41] He was arrested in 2013 near the Nepal border.

In late 2006, all the seven key accused in the Mumbai train blasts in July retracted their alleged confession to the police, saying they were illegally forced to sign blank papers, an Indian TV channel reported

3. On 27 February 2009, Sadiq Sheikh, an arrested leader of the Indian Mujahideen confessed to his alleged role in the bombings in a news channel broadcast.[52] He claimed to have engineered the pressure cooker bombs with his associates in a flat in central Mumbai. If verified, these allegations could invalidate the previous claims by the ATS that the ISI or the SIMI were involved. Sadiq states in his confession, "All five of us arranged local first-class train passes beforehand. We also had the local train timetable with us so that we could choose a train as per our convenience. We purchased bags and pressure cookers in Bombay." He also claimed to have misled investigators by blaming the attacks on the Al-Qaeda. On 6 April 2013, IM co-founder Sadiq Sheikh was declared hostile witness by defence advocates.

4. M K Narayanan, the Indian National Security Advisor, has said that India doesn't have "clinching" evidence of the involvement of ISI in the Mumbai train blasts of 11 July.[citation needed]

"I would hesitate to say we have clinching evidence but we have pretty good evidence," he was quoted as saying on CNN-IBN.

5. Following Narayanan's remarks, the Union Home Secretary V.K. Duggal on Monday characterised the evidence as "very good [...] it is fairly solid evidence,". 5 On 25 September 2008, Hindustan Times reported that "the Crime branch also learnt that the men [behind 2008 Delhi bombings] are those very operatives who had introduced themselves as Pakistanis to perpetrators of 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings.

I sometimes wonder if these investigations were set to fail from the beginning itself. From 2006 to 2015 all investigations etc done under UPA rule
Look who controlled things:
1. Mouni BABA at Centre
2. Vilas Rao Deshmukh at State level
3. Shri Lalu mein Aloo as Railway Minister.

“Evidence” is used too loosely. One might have solid intelligence which cannot be used as evidence in a criminal trial. But it would still be termed “evidence” in common speech.

That too can lead to the paradox of not getting a conviction in spite of having good evidence.

'Shocked by verdict': Mumbai police ex-chief defends 7/11 blasts probe

Former Mumbai police commissioner AN Roy on Tuesday expressed shock over the Bombay high court's acquittal of all 12 accused in the 7/11 train blasts case, saying the probe was conducted in a professional manner where evidence was collected "honestly and truthfully".

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Roy reminded that the trial court had sided with the prosecution while giving the harshest sentences to the accused people and added that the apex court of the country will see merit in the case.

"We presented a very good, strong case to the court through the chargesheet," Roy said, asserting that it was a professionally conducted, thorough investigation where evidence was collected "honestly and truthfully".

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Maintaining that he has not read the judgment delivered on Monday, he said the high court seems to be apprehensive on how witnesses could identify the accused after 100 days and questioned if there was any prescribed procedure that explicitly disallows such a practice. "There are a number of cases on judicial records where the witnesses have identified the accused after 10 years in the court," Roy said.

Speaking about the delay in the trial, he said the trial went on for several years because the accused kept on moving applications across the legal system and also went up till the Supreme Court for seeking bail or some "frivolous issues". They also made allegations of torture, of getting beaten up and forced to confess which consumed time, Roy said, adding that none of these allegations were accepted in the court.

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Roy said the court took a long time to pronounce the judgment because it was a very voluminous chargesheet, and added that the trial court judgment alone went into 2,000 pages.

Every single person's evidence was mentioned there in detail. The evidence brought in by the prosecution side, the cross examination by all the 9 to 10 defence lawyers for every witness is all recorded in that 2,000-page judgement of the trial court, he said.

"All the eyewitnesses, all the witnesses who identified the accused, all the recoveries which were made, all other circumstantial evidence, all of that is mentioned in great detail in that 2,000 page judgement. The police officers who were investigated or played any other role during that - they were all examined and cross-examined," he said.

"I withstood cross examination for 5 days, morning till evening," the former police commissioner added.

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The judgement seems to mention only what the defence lawyers have argued in the high court and saying yes or no to that, Roy said, adding that he found it bizarre.

"We will have to wait for the next verdict. We have got from the trial court's full verdict in our favour. For whatever reason, if the high court has given a contradictory verdict, we accept that as well," he said.

"We'll go and appeal to the higher court to wait for the final judgement to come. We are very confident that we have a very good case," he said, adding that they will wait for the final judgement from the Supreme Court.

While the case drags on in the SC, the accused can flee

Prem Kumar wrote: ↑23 Jul 2025 12:24 While the case drags on in the SC, the accused can flee

...or more likely, live as legends in their mohalla and eventually die of natural causes. And have thousands attend their janaza

To be a developed country by 2047, India needs much more than economic growth. A working well police, prosecutors and judiciary are an absolute must. Since reforms and culture change take years, the changes need to start now.

SC says what's the hurry to list the case on Mah Govern request for review!!
But all odds and sods get early listing
And here suspected terrorist are let go
And SC question whats the Hurry
And after nearly 180 lost their lives and more than 800 suffered injuries and some horrific life changing injury
Read a story about a guy who became paralysed from waist below and has now made it through as a Chartered Accountant.
Wow call about double standards

Supreme Court stays Bombay High Court judgement acquitting all 12 accused in 2006 Mumbai train bomb blasts case.
But with the caveat. The convicted men, now released should not be arrested and put back in prison. State of MH argued that this verdict of HC can also impact other cases charged under MCOCA.

Dilbu wrote: ↑22 Jul 2025 13:16 I cannot believe the recovered explosives were not sealed and stored in a secure location. WTF.

Perhaps judiciary needs to think about prevalence of explosives in the hands of general population. is it common occurrence?. ? Are the materials found in possession amount to reasonable use ?
It is not how the evidence was handled but what the terrorists were doing with the explosive material in the first place.
I am no lawyer but sometimes common sense must override protocol.

Or better still, ask the muppets in the court who they think did this heinous barbaric crime if not the accused, given the evidence presented linking them.

Absolute clowns. 180 victims' justice is left to the mercy of whims and fancies. Why do I say this? Trial court already handed over the sentence. This means the evidence was deemed sufficient already. Are the high courts saying there are no single standards of evidence?
In any other country, it is a really hard process to have cases going for second review. The Indian Judiciary, an absolute nest of incompetent buffoons with bloated egos and little education, is a whimsical circus.

Remember folks, the INdian judiciary comes from a lineage of mongrels who licked the dirt off the Indira's footsteps during emergency. See who were all rewarded after that with judicial posts and RS posts.

You treat scum like saints, then you end up wringing hands.
Nothing stopping MH from arresting them again, despite the SC note. Shape the *ucking narrative and go after the judiciary. Isnt is simple to say that parts of original evidence used in lower courts was not fully understood by HC and judiciary needs to look into its own house first. play the judiciary against themselves and let them fight it out. Put the onus on them to provide reports as to why lower courts standards were not sufficient and say until the ATS understand why differences in standards of evidence in judiciary, the scum will be in jail.

Neela wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:41 ......
I am no lawyer but sometimes common sense must override protocol.
......

Neela ji, common sense you say.

Well here is an example from just yesterday... and this is the SC

37 yrs after rape, SC sends convict, now 53, to JJB

Thirty-seven years after he raped an 11-year-old girl in Ajmer district of Rajasthan, Supreme Court Wednesday upheld the conviction of the accused but declared him a juvenile. The court directed the man, now 53 years old, to appear before the Juvenile Justice Board, which can at most send him to a special home for up to three years.

The man was convicted in 1993 by additional sessions judge, Kishangarh, and sentenced to rigorous imprisonment of five years for rape under Section 376. The trial court's order was upheld by Rajasthan high court in July 2024. The convict did not raise the issue of juvenility, which was pointed out for the first time in SC when he filed an appeal against the conviction and sentence.

I sometimes wonder at not only the sagacity but the application of judicial acumen

Manish_P wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 14:49

Neela wrote: ↑25 Jul 2025 10:41 ......
I am no lawyer but sometimes common sense must override protocol.
......

Neela ji, common sense you say.

Well here is an example from just yesterday... and this is the SC

37 yrs after rape, SC sends convict, now 53, to JJB

Thirty-seven years after he raped an 11-year-old girl in Ajmer district of Rajasthan, Supreme Court Wednesday upheld the conviction of the accused but declared him a juvenile. The court directed the man, now 53 years old, to appear before the Juvenile Justice Board, which can at most send him to a special home for up to three years.

The man was convicted in 1993 by additional sessions judge, Kishangarh, and sentenced to rigorous imprisonment of five years for rape under Section 376. The trial court's order was upheld by Rajasthan high court in July 2024. The convict did not raise the issue of juvenility, which was pointed out for the first time in SC when he filed an appeal against the conviction and sentence.

Again, here, is the evidence of being a juvenile admissable after 4 decades?
Any other sane system would throw out the request. A case can go to higher courts only if there is a major flaw. Not providing evidence in time means the lawyers have screwed up. This is what happens when you pick lousy lawyers .

Indian judiciary allows everything and anyone to appeal further as there is money to be made along the way and they have absolutely no moral standards.
Zero empathy, justice for victims or the cost of getting justice. Pres. Draupadi Murmu said that already.