Positive News from the USA

[Aditya_V]

Look the whole world has been fooled by European education which has whitewashed Genocide and thier territorial conquest of the world while Native Americans, Native Australians, Africans and Asians twiddled their thumbs. Thats why I laugh when some Indian Americans think that Latinos are so different and threat to American whites. Both see themselves as Europeans and will accommodate each other. They just somehow couch and hide it as a minority sentiment etc.

[Philip]

Ferguson erupts after white officer gets let off for shooting Michael Brown. Watch the action live on telly.

http://www.independent.co.uk/
Cars set ablaze and tear gas fired in Ferguson as grand jury fails to indict white police officer for killing unarmed black teen Michael Brown
Unrest and anger returns to Ferguson, and protests to other American cities, after it was announced that Darren Wilson will face no charges for the killing of teenager Michael Brown this August

Obama appeals for calm as violence flares over Ferguson grand jury decision
Protests spread across America
What next for Ferguson and America following grand jury verdict?
Michael Brown shooting: Tea Party website mocks dead teenager's family over T

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014 ... no-charges
Ferguson police officer won't be charged in shooting death of Michael Brown

•Grand jury finds that Darren Wilson, 28, did not break the law
•Jurors considered range of charges including manslaughter and murder

The police officer who shot dead an unarmed black 18-year-old in Ferguson, Missouri, leading to weeks of unrest and reviving a national debate about law enforcement and race in America, will not face state criminal charges, it was announced on Monday.

A grand jury in St Louis County declined to indict Darren Wilson for killing Michael Brown on 9 August, following an altercation after the officer stopped him and a friend for jaywalking. Wilson is also under investigation by federal authorities, which could bring civil rights charges.

There were multiple reports of looting in Ferguson after the announcement by St Louis County prosecuting attorney Bob McCulloch, and windows were broken at shops near the Ferguson police department.

A series of witnesses had claimed Brown was shot after fleeing Wilson and raising his hands in an apparent surrender. But in announcing the decision, McCulloch said some of those witnesses had recanted while others admitted not seeing the shooting.

“I’m ever mindful that this decision will not be accepted by some,” McCulloch said at a press conference in Clayton. “It may cause disappointment for others. But all decisions in the criminal justice system must be determined by the physical and scientific evidence, and credible testimony corroborated by that evidence. Not in response to public outcry, or for political expediency.”

Speaking moments after McCulloch finished, Barack Obama urged protestors to seek “constructive” outlets for their anger as his appeal for calm from the White House briefing room failed to quell growing violence on the streets of Ferguson.

“There is undoubtedly going to be some form of negative reaction and it will make for good TV,” said the president, warning that “throwing bottles or smashing cars” will not solve the underlying mistrust and genuine problems still facing African Americans.

As he has throughout, Obama refused to comment on the specifics of the case, saying all Americans should recognise the decision not to indict Darren Wilson.

“We are a nation based on the rule of law so we need to accept that this was the special jury’s decision to make,” he said.

But the president also said there were legitimate grounds for mistrust of police more generally and argued it would be wrong to try to “tamp this down” or “paper it over”.

“This is not just an issue for Ferguson; this is an issue for America. We have made enormous progress in race relations over the course of the past several decades – I have witnessed that in my own life – and to deny that progress is to deny America’s capacity for change,” he said. “But what is also true is that there are still problems and that communities of colour are not making these problems up.”

As he spoke, protests has already broken out in Ferguson and elsewhere. In New York, hundreds of people gathered in Union Square and Times Square before marching uptown.

In Ferguson, a Walgreens pharmacy was seen in flames, and people were seen entering other stores – a beauty supply shop and a nail salon among them. The Associated Press reported that a Little Caesar’s pizza shop and a storage unit were among the buildings that burned.

Walgreens on fire and people are rushing in before it burns down to loot more goods. #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/OrcjYDwA1t
— Paul Lewis (@PaulLewis) November 25, 2014
In Oakland, California, dozens of people blocked traffic on Interstate 580, while the Associated Press reported largely peaceful protests in Chicago, Los Angeles and New York.

The grand jurors had been asked to decide whether there was probable cause to charge Wilson with any of five crimes ranging from involuntary manslaughter to first-degree murder. McCulloch declined to say whether the decision was unanimous. Nine out of 12 votes had been needed for an indictment.

Autopsies by the county and Brown’s family found that he was shot by Wilson at least six times, including twice to the head. McCulloch disclosed on Monday that Wilson’s gun was fired 12 times in the course of the encounter. The prosecutor said that the struggle ensued after Wilson realised that Brown matched a description broadcast over police radio moments earlier for a grocery store robber.

Brown’s family said in a statement: “We are profoundly disappointed that the killer of our child will not face the consequence of his actions.” They called for peaceful demonstrations over the decision, saying that “answering violence with violence is not the appropriate action”. They said: “We ask that you channel your frustration in ways that will make a positive change.”

The entire St Louis region was immediately braced for protests over the grand jury’s decision. Brown’s death was followed by successive nights of intense clashes between police and protesters. Some businesses closed while some school districts cancelled classes for the week.

It had been widely anticipated in Ferguson that Wilson would not be indicted. Many of those involved in demonstrations accuse white authority figures in the city, whose population is two-thirds black, of covering up the truth about the killing of Brown by Wilson, 28, who is white.

Residents said that Brown’s shooting caused the boiling over of long-simmering discontent between Ferguson’s majority-black population and the 94% white police force. Many accused McCulloch, whose father was a white police officer killed by a black man, of a pro-police bias and called for his recusal from the case.

Officials and police around St Louis have been making extensive preparations for renewed protests and more than a dozen arrests were made in the past week. James Knowles, Ferguson’s mayor, said this month that they would “prepare for the worst”. He told a local television station: “There are expectations that demonstrations probably will break out in several places.”

McCulloch pre-emptively defended the grand jury from inevitable attacks they will receive from supporters of Brown’s family. “They are the only people who have heard and examined every witness and every piece of evidence.”

Missouri law states that an officer may shoot someone who is reasonably feared to pose an imminent threat of death or serious injury to the officer or another person. Courts have ruled that officers may also shoot to stop someone suspected of a killing or grievous injury from fleeing if they pose others a serious threat.

Wilson chose to testify before the jury for more than four hours. He told jurors that Brown assaulted him in his patrol car and that the pair struggled over his pistol. McCulloch said that several witnesses had testified that after fleeing, Brown turned and advanced on the officer. He said that there was disagreement about where Brown’s hands were when he was shot.

While some did they say they saw Brown raise his hands in the air, McCulloch said, “several witnesses said that Mr brown did not raise his arms at all, or raised them briefly”.

In a long and at times angry statement, McCulloch sharply criticised people in the region and on social media for spreading a version of the shooting that he said had been disproved by physical evidence and a series other eyewitnesses. Some African American witnesses testified that they saw Brown charging or moving towards Wilson before the 18-year-old was shot dead, he said.

Dorian Johnson, a friend who was with Brown at the time, has said repeatedly that Wilson simply reacted aggressively when the pair declined to comply with the officer’s request for them to move from the middle of the road to the sidewalk on Canfield Drive.

Johnson told reporters that Wilson grabbed Brown by the neck and shot the 18-year-old as he escaped the struggle. Several other witnesses, including two workmen cutting nearby trees at the time, have agreed that Brown appeared to be surrendering when he was shot dead.

McCulloch also attacked the “insatiable” appetite of the news media, accusing the industry of hindering the grand jury process. The grand jury of seven men and five women met on 25 days over three months, he said. Nine of them were white and three were black. McCulloch said they heard more than 70 hours of testimony from more than 60 witnesses and watched “hours and hours” of interviews witnesses gave to police and the media.

Evidence was presented to the jury by two assistant prosecutors, Kathi Alizadeh and Sheila Whirley. McCulloch pledged that all material from the case would be published if Wilson were not indicted. His office immediately made public some documents and testimony.

The jury had already been impanelled to hear other cases in the county when Brown was shot dead. Paying tribute to the jurors’ service, he said: “These grand jurors poured their hearts and souls into this,” adding that they “gave up their lives, put their lives on hold, put their families on hold, put everything on hold so they could come in and do their civic duty”.

Asked for his message to the Brown family, McCulloch said: “My heart goes out to them. Regardless of the circumstances, they lost a young man, they lost a young life.” He added: “No young man should ever be killed by a police officer, but no police officer should ever be put in that position.”

[Shreeman]

^^^ 'tis a sad day -- http://fox2now.com/on-air/live-streaming/

nothing to intrepret.

[habal]

You can't charge a police officer in a police state.

[Neela]

White officer says he followed training manual. He fired _just_ 12 shots to kill unarmed M.Brown. SOP of proud American police offsar.
If you shoot less, you dont follow the american dream.

[member_22733]

^^^ 'tis a sad day -- http://fox2now.com/on-air/live-streaming/

nothing to intrepret.

Let me spin something positive here without a link (Bhagwaan mujhse kshama karen):

Today I got into a huge argument with someone who was pissed off at the riots. (Obviously a non-black person). Moral of the story: If it does not impact you, you will refuse to see it.

Most of what is happening to black people does not impact non-blacks, especially whites. So instead of thinking: WHY are these people always angry and why are the rioting? These guys are bitching about "Ohh my life is soo miserable because blacks might riot onleeee". I find that incredibly selfish.

Most people are confused on why black people are causing inconvenience to their lives.

They conveniently forget that they are talking about :
A people who have been historically oppressed, with no chance of getting redemption anytime soon. A people who get consistently disenfranchised by felony convictions to this day and work as slave laborers in prisons. Whose sons and daughters get slaughtered by law enforcement (who should be serving and protecting) on a constant basis. Who face all kinds of hurdles and glass ceiling at almost every place. Who get almost no justice for crimes committed against them by non-black folks. Last but not the least: A people who have no way to get redemption, no way to get fairness, no place to let of steam, and no place to run away to because this is their home.

The blacks are living in a pressure cooker. Its only a miracle that so few of them are involved in the riots, as much as they are destructive and violent.

This is an analogy on whats going on in the US (a vicious cycle):
You chase an animal into a corner and give it no way to escape. Even a most peaceful animal will snap at you with violence. You can look at it as transgression and inconvenience and then push it even more into that corner. It attacks you with more violence. And you get even more angry that it attacked you and you get more aggressive.

All you need to do is to give that animal its space. The ball is in your court. The animal has no choice but to defend. It has no where to go.

This is slightly OT, sorry about that. And yes, this is a sad sad day.

[member_22733]

In the spirit of Bositive neuj: Here is a juror note (the real stuff), from one of the jurors. Plizz to read and enjoy the level of discourse:

[UlanBatori]

Some more positive news from US of A:
....
and apparently, shooting a harmless black guy won't get you any jail:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30188737
Long live the Freedom!

See! This is the sort of negative, 24-hr media bar-rage that the Aphsars-e-Kanoon have to face. Who's talking about JAIL? Jail is only for brown and black heathains. In the Great US of A, their killers won't even get indicted, which means NO TRIAL IS NEEDED.

This, you must agree, beats the heck out of even the British System of Just-is, where Brig. Dyer (Dwyer?) was dragged through the horror of a trial, until the judge instructed the Jurors:

Gentlemen of the Jury, you are instructed to remembah that whatevah the allegations, Brigadier Dyer (Dwyer?) Saved the British Empiah!

Nothing like that needed in the US of A. Just have the Officer come and say what happened, and voila! There is no one to contradict him, the officer made damn sure of that, and the crime Justice scene (the crime came yesterday) was not photographed because...

The medical examiner's camera battery wasn't charged

There u go! I am satisfied that this was a perfect excuse.

[UlanBatori]

(Bhagwaan mujhse kshama karen):

All you need to do is to give that animal its space. The ball is in your court. The animal has no choice but to defend. It has no where to go.

What a notion! SO MUCH Simpler to just shoot it twelve times until "the aggression was gone, it was gone, I mean, I knew he stopped, the threat was stopped" (read the Aphsar-e-Kanoon's test-e-money)

Twelve shots were fired by Wilson. Wilson said two shots were fired during a struggle at his police vehicle and that he then fired three bursts of gunfire as he chased and then backed away from Brown. He testified that his Sig Sauer .40 caliber gun held a maximum of 13 bullets.

Twelve casings were recovered and one bullet remained in the weapon, according to the grand jury documents.
...
"As he is coming towards me, I tell, keep telling him to get on the ground, he doesn't. I shoot a series of shots. I don't know how many I shot, I just know I shot it," he said.

"I know I missed a couple, I don't know how many, but I know I hit him at least once because I saw his body kind of jerk," he said.

Wilson testified that Brown did not slow down. (Oh, of course not! In the USA, Police guns are filled with 13 45-caliber M&M chocolate pellets, as we all know)

"At this point I start backpedaling and again, I tell him get on the ground, get on the ground, he doesn't. I shoot another round of shots," he said.

"Again, I don't recall how many him every time. I know at least once because he flinched again. At this point it looked like he was almost bulking up to run through the shots, like it was making him mad that I'm shooting at him. (See! Your animal analogy all over)

"And the face that he had was looking straight through me, like I wasn't even there, I wasn't even anything in his way." (Could have been because he was already losing consciousness, but that would not occur to Missouri's Smartest)

He told the jurors he thought Brown was going to tackle him.

"Just coming straight at me like he was going to run right through me. And when he gets about that 8 to 10 feet away, I look down, I remember looking at my sites and firing, all I see is his head and that's what I shot.

"I don't know how many, I know at least once because I saw the last one go into him. And then when it went into him, the demeanor on his face went blank, the aggression was gone, it was gone, I mean, I knew he stopped, the threat was stopped.
(Q.E.D.)

"When he fell, he fell on his face."

[UlanBatori]

The problem, if you see, in all seriousness, is that the aphsar was alone in his car. He did not think he could tackle one unarmed civilian any way other than to shoot him dead. But he wasn't going to back off and break off the confrontation.

Had this been in many other less-civilized countries, once the 13 bullets were gone, the kindly neighbors would have gathered and beaten the officer to death, and/or tossed him into a fire made by burning the tires of his SUV using the gas inside the SUV. Along with the SUV.

So! This proves once again that the US of A is the greatest civilization in the Dunia. You MUST do what the Law says, or they will shoot you dead. Period.

[vishvak]

USA is not only the greatest civilization of duniya but also collection of biggest human rights activities who point only at others and stay silent otherwise when a few things get a bit hot ALL OVER USA. My heart is very saddened on this very sad day when people are protesting but not against selective heart burners who seem to point fingers only at other countries; but NEVER discuss minority politics in America - even when protests are all over America.

By the way, who did the juror's father refer to for "not hating an entire race" because of what one man did 40 years ago? Did he refer to Martin Luther king Jr?

The white juror's father said or when medical examiner's batteries weren't charged could be meme but as someone said, in police state you just can't punish the policeman!

[UlanBatori]

And those who doubt the civilization in the US law enforcement business, should be ashamed of themselves. Just read this: How the Law has protected children

In September an appellate court ordered a new trial for Alexander, who was sentenced to 20 years in prison for firing a gun to scare off her allegedly abusive husband. The case will be retried because the jury had incorrect directions, the court ruled.

The 20-year sentence came in a case in which the woman, a mother of three, said she was attempting to flee her husband on August 1, 2010, when she picked up a handgun and fired a shot into a wall. Nobody was struck by the bullet. (There u go! THAT is unacceptable!)

After having the initial conviction overturned, Marissa Alexander was sentenced Monday to 65 days in jail on two counts of aggravated assault, with credit for time already served since her 2012 conviction. She will also serve two years under house arrest, and she agreed to wear a monitoring device.

She will be sentenced later on a third aggravated assault count. (I feel safer already!)

"She was sitting in prison with a 20-year sentence," one of her lawyers, Bruce Zimit, told CNN affiliate WJXT. "Bottom line, she's going to be finishing the case with a three-year sentence plus whatever else the judge does at sentencing" on the third count.

Alexander's case gained the attention of civil rights leaders, who say nobody was hurt and the sentence for the mother of three was too harsh.

The case shined the spotlight on Florida's Stand Your Ground law after she unsuccessfully argued before her 2012 trial that she was immune to prosecution because of the law. (Duh! That's only for ***** folks terrified by *****s wearing hoodies etc)

But now, Alexander says she's just hoping she can see her children as she waits for her complicated case to be resolved.

Alexander "has not had regular access to her 3-and-a-half year old daughter" since she was 6 months old, her lawyer said in court documents urging a judge for a pre-trial release.

[prahaar]

Some more positive news from US of A:
....
and apparently, shooting a harmless black guy won't get you any jail:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30188737
Long live the Freedom!

See! This is the sort of negative, 24-hr media bar-rage that the Aphsars-e-Kanoon have to face. Who's talking about JAIL? Jail is only for brown and black heathains. In the Great US of A, their killers won't even get indicted, which means NO TRIAL IS NEEDED.

This, you must agree, beats the heck out of even the British System of Just-is, where Brig. Dyer (Dwyer?) was dragged through the horror of a trial, until the judge instructed the Jurors:

Gentlemen of the Jury, you are instructed to remembah that whatevah the allegations, Brigadier Dyer (Dwyer?) Saved the British Empiah!

Nothing like that needed in the US of A. Just have the Officer come and say what happened, and voila! There is no one to contradict him, the officer made damn sure of that, and the crime Justice scene (the crime came yesterday) was not photographed because...

The medical examiner's camera battery wasn't charged

There u go! I am satisfied that this was a perfect excuse.

Sir, but I read in NYTimes that the head of police in that city apologized for not picking up the dead body for 4 hours to facilitate detailed forensic evidence collection. In 4 hours they could not find the required batteries?

[anmol]

His store was looted again.

https://vine.co/v/O1XlODJtUrh

[member_22733]

Btw occifer Wilson is about 6'4 >200 pound guy. Almost as big or probably bigger than the kid he killed.

[narmad]

How the officers are trained to respond to different situations need to change !!

The police officer was not carrying a Taser because it was inconvenient .
According to the law what the officer did was by the book as per the evidence.
The Kid was wrong all the time, hitting an officer is a big no-no.
The right hand under his shirt near the waist was what cleared the officer.
He would have been carrying a knife or a gun and that suspicion gives the officer the right to kill.

If you go by the book, you cannot blame the officer. He followed whatever SOPs were laid.

But the situation could have been handled differently, if the mindset was different.
The first confrontation itself set the scene. The response to the verbal challenge by the Kid should have been different
For perspective officer--testimony
What was the officer's emotional response after been beaten in his own car.
Was there a need to fire shots again after the first set ? Was there any intention of Not killing the kid ?

[saip]

In the spirit of Bositive neuj: Here is a juror note (the real stuff), from one of the jurors. Plizz to read and enjoy the level of discourse:

It is from one of the WITNESSES and not from a juror.

[saip]

Btw occifer Wilson is about 6'4 >200 pound guy. Almost as big or probably bigger than the kid he killed.

The 'kid' was 6'4" and 290 lbs.

[saip]

As per Ferguson demographics, the blacks were 70% and whites 30%. But the jury consisted of 9 whites and 3 blacks.

How did that happen?

[member_22733]

As per Ferguson demographics, the blacks were 70% and whites 30%. But the jury consisted of 9 whites and 3 blacks.

How did that happen?

Its called the 3/5th compromise. Just like the one-drop-rule that also exists

[member_22733]

Btw occifer Wilson is about 6'4 >200 pound guy. Almost as big or probably bigger than the kid he killed.

The 'kid' was 6'4" and 290 lbs.

Yep, and he looked like a "demon with arms bigger than hulk hogan". And he was raising his arms in a handsup position. Occifer saw a threat and killed the demon, simple.

Here is the link you can read for yourself why the "demon" deserved to die:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... ry-hearing

[member_22733]

His store was looted again.

https://vine.co/v/O1XlODJtUrh

That is sad. It is a side-effect of the root cause of this whole thing. While its certainly criminal and the guilty needs to be punished I do understand WHY they ended up doing what they did to his shop. And I say this with full understanding that someday I might be a victim of this kind of thing. I will obviously want justice, as much as I want this guy to get justice.

[saip]

As per Ferguson demographics, the blacks were 70% and whites 30%. But the jury consisted of 9 whites and 3 blacks.

How did that happen?

Its called the 3/5th compromise. Just like the one-drop-rule that also exists

Actually, this jury was not constituted for this case. It was already in existence for over 4 months prior to this case and its term was extended for this case. Another jury was constituted for other cases. The constitution of the jury appears to be just coincidence.

[member_22733]

Sure. and who selected this jury ? Was it random? I believe the prosecutor is involved in it. (My knowledge of the US legal systems are a bit fuzzy).

By selected the Jury I mean to say: Who decided that this jury which was constituted X months back should be deciding this case?

[member_22733]

Back to Postive neuj:

When hiding doesn't work, try a costume!!!!

[saip]

There is only one grand jury in existence at one time. This jury was constituted four months back and its term was about to end. Another jury was coming into existence after this jury's term ended. But when the proceedings were started this jury's term was extended and the case was referred to it and other cases were referred to the jury that came into existence later.

I do not know the constitution of the second jury that came into being. For all you know it too could have similar black/white division. It is just possible the prosecutor had decided to go with this jury for whatever reason.

[member_22733]

^^^ Thanks.

[member_22733]

Our prosecutors always aim to succeed!!!!

[sanjaykumar]

Yep, and he looked like a "demon with arms bigger than hulk hogan". And he was raising his arms in a handsup position. Occifer saw a threat and killed the demon, simple.


Well, at least eight shots were fired by the policeman. The n!gger had the temerity to twitch after he had been shot, I guess.

[member_22733]

According to the officer, the demon was charging him after he was shot through his head. So he had to shoot him a few times until he stopped twitching in order to make sure. He made sure his eyes went from "demon" to "cold and dead".

[member_22733]

We dont have racism in America:



http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers.co ... anonymous/

[vishvak]

His store was looted again.

https://vine.co/v/O1XlODJtUrh

That is sad. It is a side-effect of the root cause of this whole thing. While its certainly criminal and the guilty needs to be punished I do understand WHY they ended up doing what they did to his shop. And I say this with full understanding that someday I might be a victim of this kind of thing. I will obviously want justice, as much as I want this guy to get justice.

Isn't it up to the majority to provide security so that such a thing doesn't occur? If a mob of one minority affects some other minority, then the majority of the society can't shrug this off just like that.

[member_22733]

That is sad. It is a side-effect of the root cause of this whole thing. While its certainly criminal and the guilty needs to be punished I do understand WHY they ended up doing what they did to his shop. And I say this with full understanding that someday I might be a victim of this kind of thing. I will obviously want justice, as much as I want this guy to get justice.

Isn't it up to the majority to provide security so that such a thing doesn't occur? If a mob of one minority affects some other minority, then the majority of the society can't shrug this off just like that.

Yes, but remember that most police are miltarized, i.e. they have more stuff to defend themselves than control the riots. Riot control requires a much higher deployment numbers and riot control equipment, which is much different from machines of war. The scale of the protest is rather too large for St. Louis police to do much.

Add to that the fact that they dont give a phuck about minorities killing each other.

[saip]

All grand juries do is rubber stamp whatever the prosecutor wants. The evidence presented is one sided, generally the prosecutor's side. Witnesses are not cross examined. They can not refuse to answer. There are no objections to the questions asked by the prosecutor which is what happens in a court of law during an actual trial. They can be asked leading questions, which will be objected to in a trial by the defense attorney. As there is no judge present, it is the prosecutor who runs the show. Though technically Grand Jurors can ask questions, very few do. Even then whether the question is put to the witness or not is decided by the prosecutor (the qs are given in writing to prosecutor and he decides to ask or not).

[saip]

The owner of that store is from Israel, Sonny Dayan. He did not board his store and did not think he would be targeted again.

[UlanBatori]

All you yindoos who watched the incompetent Gujarat Govt response to the Godhra sleeper-passenger massacre spontaneous railway combustion leading to accidental death of violent extremists, now read and weep, how it is done in the Land Of Professionalism. They carefully declared a State of Emergency 2 weeks back, brought in the Klingons in Riot Gear, the tanks and HumVees, then waited until 8PM to release the verdict, and thereby ... achieved total suppression of violence..

I bet ***** ppl's stores were well-protected, which is the whole point. Congratulations to the Gubernor or Missouri!!

[Gus]

No cop would ever be on the dock, unless it is so overboard and caught on video like that rodney king.

and i would not put it past these missourah gov etc, to let the riots happen just so they can say "SEE, what'd i tell ya..ANIMALS"...

[member_22733]

^^^ you are probably right. Check this out:

http://instagram.com/p/v1It8fiZ7G/

Shows how much "riot control" happened yesterday.

[saip]

An odd thing about this grand jury is the Wilson's testimony. Generally speaking the person that is up for indictment is not called before the grand jury.

[Shreeman]

The happenings are so predictable, it feels like a plot of a B movie from the soviet union. Really boring. But that's what is popular these days. Internal divide and conquer does not work out well for any society in thevlong term. So, beware.