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shiv wrote:

A_Gupta wrote:There is no press statement anywhere about the military radar observing that kind of descent.

Is there any report about the altitude at which the military radar monitored the unidentified aircraft.

As far as I have been able to surmise the military radar followed an unidentified aircraft and did not know it was flt 370. Clearly that did not arouse their suspicion if reports are to be believed. After the flight went missing they have gone back and looked at their data and then realized that "Duh - here is an unidentified aircraft trace".

Is there an assumption that the unidentified aircraft was actually flt 370 or could it have been some other aircraft. To confirm that the Malaysian radar operators should have records that identify ever single radar return they have got during that period along with ATC corroboration from the civilian set up. The IAF has that as per reports, but do the Malaysians have that?

What is the evidence that the military radar picked up flt 370 and not some other aircraft?

On Mar 8th 2014 aviation sources in China reported that radar data suggest a steep and sudden descent of the aircraft, during which the track of the aircraft changed from 024 degrees to 333 degrees.

Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Did jetliner fly into area controlled by Taliban? Net widens after claims final satellite signal could have been sent from the ground

The Independent
by Kunal Dutta and Andrew Buncombe and David Keys, independent.co.uk
March 16th 2014


Eight days after Flight MH370 vanished, Malaysian authorities are seeking diplomatic permission to investigate a theory that the Boeing 777 may have been flown under the radar to Taliban-controlled bases on the border of Afghanistan and North West Pakistan, The Independent has learnt.

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Last night sources in Kuala Lumpur assisting with the investigation told The Independent that full diplomatic permissions were being sought in order to rule out the theory that the plane could have flown to areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan that are not under government control.

Large areas of the southern half of Afghanistan are ruled by the Afghan Taliban, while some areas of north-west Pakistan, adjacent to or near to the Afghan border, are controlled by the Pakistani Taliban

A spokesman for Malaysian Airlines said: “These are matters for the jurisdiction of those regions and Malaysia’s armed forces and department of civil aviation. In regard to Pakistan and Afghanistan, we cannot explore those theories without permission. We hope to have that soon.”

For a commercial plane to pass undetected through these regions, which are highly militarised with robust air defence networks, many run by the US military, would require a combination of extremely sophisticated navigation, brazen audacity and security failure by those monitoring international airspace. However, with so little known about the fate of the plane, and the investigation growing in scale every day, it is yet another line of enquiry that remains impossible to rule out. On Sunday Pakistani civil aviation officials said they had checked their radar recordings and found no sign of the missing jet.

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Reuters reported police had said their inquiries had found no links between Captain Shah and any militant group.

A British Royal Air Force base in the colonial era, the Malaysian air force base at Butterworth sits on the mainland across from the island of Penang at the northern reaches of the Strait of Malacca. There, in the early morning hours of March 8, the four-person crew watching for intrusions into the country’s airspace either did not notice or failed to report a blip on their defensive radar and air traffic radar that was moving steadily across the country from east to west, heading right toward them, said the person with knowledge of the matter.

Neither that team nor the crews at two other radar installations at Kota Bharu, closer to where the airliner last had contact with the ground, designated the blip as an unknown intruder warranting attention, the person said. The aircraft proceeded to fly across the country and out to sea without anyone on watch telling a superior and alerting the national defense command near Kuala Lumpur, even though the radar contact’s flight path did not correspond to any filed flight plan.

As a result, combat aircraft never scrambled to investigate. The plane, identified at the time by Mr. Najib as Flight 370, passed directly over Penang, a largely urban state with more than 1.6 million people, then turned and headed out over the Strait of Malacca.

The existence of the radar contact was discovered only when military officials began reviewing tapes later in the morning on March 8, after the passenger jet failed to arrive in Beijing. It was already becoming clear that morning, only hours after the unauthorized flyover, that something had gone very wrong. Tapes from both the Butterworth and Kota Bharu bases showed the radar contact arriving from the area of the last known position of Flight 370, the person familiar with the investigation said.

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shiv wrote:That military radar that picked up the aircraft.. what altitude did it detect?

Kuala Lumpur: Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 dropped to altitudes as low as 1524 metres (5000 feet) using a dangerous flying technique called “terrain masking” to avoid radar in at least three countries, investigators believe.

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“All right, good night,” some-one in the cockpit had said calmly, seemingly to mislead ground control that anything was wrong.

Investigators believe that by following commercial routes the plane did not raise the suspicion of people monitoring radar of the countries it overflew.

Terrain masking is used by military pilots for stealth flights. Based on the estimated time in the air, authorities believe MH370 would have passed over two additional countries besides Malaysia, although it's not clear which ones.

Experts say flying a Boeing 777 in such a way would be dangerous, putting pressure on the 250 tonnes air frame and possibly causing those on board to be air sick.

The New Straits Times newspaper in Kuala Lumpur is quoting investigators as saying the “person who had control over the aircraft has a solid knowledge of avionics and navigation and left a clean track.”

It quotes investigation sources as confirming the plane flew low over Kelantan in peninsular Malaysia

http://www.theage.com.au/action/printAr ... d=30025203

Rajiv Lather wrote:It is ghostly quiet. I think we are about to get an official statement from the Malaysian PM.

sohamn wrote:the red arc is where the plane could be at this point of time. There is a possibility that the plane is getting ready as a long range cruise missile.

Lalmohan wrote:there were a few...

saravana wrote:Sorry for asking a noob question after so many pages:
What is the last independently (not just Malaysia, China ) verified position of the plane? Runway?

3: 30 pm: No hostage demands or distress signal gives hope flight wasn't hijacked, says authorities

Malaysia said that it had asked all nations where the aircraft could have gone to verify using ground and satellite information where the flight may have gone.

However, the government said that it was still focussed on finding the aircraft and it would not like to say for certain that the families of the passengers on board should fear the worst.

A_Gupta wrote:

Harpal Bector wrote:Has there been any unusual volume transaction or activity on the Bitcoin side?

Doesn't seem to be. But something to watch!
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