Levant crisis - III
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real power is now with turkish police and erdonanist mobilization fronts and grey wolves.
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houthis ambush a saudi convoy. in their panic to run away , one mrap rear ends another ... the rear one gets picked off with a rocket
https://twitter.com/HoseinMortada/statu ... 1565240320
https://twitter.com/HoseinMortada/statu ... 1565240320
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Some humor courtesy of PaveWayIV:
"A NATO country has just rolled tanks into Syria and sent in head-chopper ground forces - the same ones Syria, Russia and Iran have been trying to kill for months on end in Aleppo and Idlib. ISIS isn't putting up much resistance in Jarabulus because they're too busy trading their ISIS ID cards/flags for al Nusra or al Zenki ID cards/flags. Head-choppers need paychecks to feed their families, too:
"Headchopper #1: "Snackbar - somebody is shooting at us! What flag are we suppose to be flying today, brother?"
"Headchopper #2: "Look on your paycheck, brother..."
"Headchopper #1: "No good, brother - it's from ISIS. That was last week!"
"Headchopper #2: "I'll get on the radio - our leaders should know, God willing..."
(a few minutes later...)
"Headchopper #2: "Nobody knows for sure, but put on this white helmet for now, brother. Soros' checks are clearing."
"Headchopper #1: "Does that mean I have to shave? Snackbar... can't we just be al Nusra this week?"
"Headchopper #2: "No flags yet.. But you have to shave anyway, brother. The CIA won't pay you for FSA Nusra if you look to Wahhabi head-chopperish. Have a Captagon and calm down. Our Turkish brothers will be here soon.""
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/08/ny ... 15217c970c
"A NATO country has just rolled tanks into Syria and sent in head-chopper ground forces - the same ones Syria, Russia and Iran have been trying to kill for months on end in Aleppo and Idlib. ISIS isn't putting up much resistance in Jarabulus because they're too busy trading their ISIS ID cards/flags for al Nusra or al Zenki ID cards/flags. Head-choppers need paychecks to feed their families, too:
"Headchopper #1: "Snackbar - somebody is shooting at us! What flag are we suppose to be flying today, brother?"
"Headchopper #2: "Look on your paycheck, brother..."
"Headchopper #1: "No good, brother - it's from ISIS. That was last week!"
"Headchopper #2: "I'll get on the radio - our leaders should know, God willing..."
(a few minutes later...)
"Headchopper #2: "Nobody knows for sure, but put on this white helmet for now, brother. Soros' checks are clearing."
"Headchopper #1: "Does that mean I have to shave? Snackbar... can't we just be al Nusra this week?"
"Headchopper #2: "No flags yet.. But you have to shave anyway, brother. The CIA won't pay you for FSA Nusra if you look to Wahhabi head-chopperish. Have a Captagon and calm down. Our Turkish brothers will be here soon.""
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/08/ny ... 15217c970c
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Ominous article.
If this article is true, it doesn't bear well for the mediterranean. It looks like someplace is going to get hit by a nuke.
Turkey Invades Northern Syria — Truth of Turkish "Coup" Revealed?
August 25, 2016 (The New Atlas) - Syria's conflict has escalated into dangerous new territory as Turkish military forces cross the Turkish-Syrian border in an attempt to annex the Syrian city of Jarabulus. The operation includes not only Turkish military forces, but also throngs of Western-backed militants who will likely be handed control of the city before expanding operations deeper into Syria against Syrian government forces.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2016/ ... th-of.html
With the beginning of the operation, aimed allegedly at seizing the city from militants of the so-called Islamic State as well as preventing the city from falling into the hands of advancing US-backed Kurdish forces, Ankara's move has made several things clear about the current geopolitical dimensions of the ongoing regional conflict.
The "US-Backed" July Coup Was Likely Staged
First, with US warplanes providing close air support for Turkish operations, claims by Ankara that the US was behind an attempted coup in July appear to have been fabrications and the coup itself likely staged.
US Vice President Joseph Biden made an official visit to Turkey just this week in what was the highest level visit by a US representative since the attempted coup in July. Vice President Biden discussed bilateral relations and joint US-Turkish military cooperation.
Reuters in its report, "With Biden visit, U.S. seeks balance with truculent Turkey," would claim:
Biden, who visited Latvia on Tuesday, will look to show support with Turkey, while raising concern about the extent of the crackdown, according to officials. Turkey will press its case for Gulen's extradition.
"The vice president will also reaffirm that the United States is doing everything we can to support Turkey's ongoing efforts to hold accountable those responsible for the coup attempt while ensuring the rule of law is respected during the process," a senior Obama administration official told reporters, briefing ahead of Biden's visit on condition of anonymity.
It is difficult to believe that Fethullah Gülen could have orchestrated a violent military coup while residing in the United States without the explicit approval and support of the United States government. Thus, for the US to "hold accountable those responsible for the coup attempt" would require the identification and detainment of those Americans who were involved.
Regarding US joint operations with Turkey specifically, the BBC in its article, "Syria Jarablus: Turkish tanks roll into northern Syria," would report:
An unnamed senior US official in Washington told BBC News before the start of the Turkish operation that it was "partly to create a buffer against the possibility of the Kurds moving forward".
"We are working with them on that potential operation: our advisers are communicating with them on the Jarablus plan.
"We'll give close air support if there's an operation."
It would be likewise difficult to believe that Turkey truly suspected the US of an attempted decapitation of the nation's senior leadership in a violent, abortive coup just last month, only to be conducting joint operations with the US inside Syria with US military forces still based within Turkish territory.
What is much more likely is that the coup was staged to feign a US-Turkish fallout, draw in Russia and allow Turkey to make sweeping purges of any elements within the Turkish armed forces that might oppose a cross-border foray into Syria, a foray that is now unfolding.
Anthony Cartalucci, a Bangkok-based geopolitical analyst would note in a July 18 piece titled, "Turkey's Failed Coup: "A Gift from God" or from Washington?," that:
...the coup was staged - not against Turkey - but in part by it, with the help of not only the United States, but also Gulen's political faction. It will represent a 21st century "Reichstag fire" leading to a 21st century "Hitlerian purge," removing the last remaining obstacles to President Erdogan and the corrosive institutions he has constructed in their collective bid to seize absolute power over Turkey.
And quite to the contrary of those changes one would expect Turkey to make if truly the US engineered this coup to oust, not abet Erdogan, Turkey is very likely to double down on hostility toward neighboring Syria and its allies.
With Turkey now moving into northern Syria, backing militant forces that will go on to fight Syrian forces and prolong the conflict from a new forward base of operations inside Syria and with NATO protection, this is precisely what has now happened.
Building Long-Desired Militant Safe-Havens
The crossing of Syria's border constitutes the fulfilment of longstanding plans predating both the Kurdish offensive and the rise of the Islamic State.
The plans laid by Washington and its regional allies seek to establish a buffer zone or "safe-haven" within Syrian territory unassailable by Syrian forces from which Western-backed militants can launch operations deeper into Syrian territory. Currently, these operations are launched from Turkish territory itself.
With militants being incrementally pushed out of Aleppo and Syrian forces making advances everywhere west of the Euphrates River, it appears that the US is attempting to use Kurdish forces to annex eastern Syria while Turkey's latest move is aimed at finally creating a long-desired northern safe-haven in order to prevent a full collapse of fighting within the country.
British special forces, meanwhile, are reportedly in southern Syrian attempting to carve out a similar haven for militants along Jordan and Iraq's borders with Syria.
The participation of US airpower in the ongoing operation also makes clear the lack of strategic and political depth of US loyalty to its supposed Kurdish allies, a betrayal in motion even as Kurdish forces are being marshalled and directed against Syrian forces by the US in eastern Syria.
Plans for such safe-havens were disclosed as early as 2012, with US policymakers in a Brookings Institution paper titled, "Assessing Options for Regime Change," stating (our emphasis):
An alternative is for diplomatic efforts to focus first on how to end the violence and how to gain humanitarian access, as is being done under [Former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan's] leadership. This may lead to the creation of safe-havens and humanitarian corridors, which would have to be backed by limited military power. This would, of course, fall short of U.S. goals for Syria and could preserve Asad in power. From that starting point, however, it is possible that a broad coalition with the appropriate international mandate could add further coercive action to its efforts.
This is now precisely what is being created, starting in Jarabulus, and likely to extend westward toward Azaz, directly north of the contested Syrian city of Aleppo. Since 2012, various pretexts have been invented, abandoned and then revisited in order to justify a cross-border operation like the one now unfolding.
Creating a Pretext — Staged Terror Attack Was an Option
This included Ankara itself plotting attacks on its own territory to look like cross-border terrorism that could be used as impetus for the creation of a Turkish-controlled Jarabulus-Azaz corridor.
The International Business Times in a 2014 article titled, "Turkey YouTube Ban: Full Transcript of Leaked Syria 'War' Conversation Between Erdogan Officials," would reveal the details of a transcript in which Turkish leadership contemplated staging just such an attack:
Ahmet Davutoğlu: "Prime Minister said that in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen as an opportunity for us."
Hakan Fidan: "I'll send 4 men from Syria, if that's what it takes. I'll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey; we can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb if necessary."
Feridun Sinirlioğlu: "Our national security has become a common, cheap domestic policy outfit."
Yaşar Güler: "It's a direct cause of war. I mean, what're going to do is a direct cause of war."
It may just be a coincidence that a similar provocation unfolded just ahead of the current Turkish cross-border operation. The New York Times in its article, "Wedding Bombing is the Latest in a Series of Deadly Terror Attacks in Turkey," would detail the provocation now being cited for Turkey's current operation:
A bombing on Saturday night at a Kurdish wedding in Gaziantep, a Turkish town near the Syrian border, was one of the deadliest in a string of terrorist attacks that have struck Turkey. Since June 2015, Kurdish and Islamic State militants have staged at least 15 major attacks across Turkey, killing more than 330 people.(bombing kurdish wedding, softest target in turkey and a preferred target for Erdogan's ethnic cleansing policies)
Thus, Turkey's government and a complicit Western media have helped place the blame equally on both the Islamic State and Kurdish militants ahead of the now ongoing cross-border operation.
The above mentioned BBC article would also note:
Turkey has vowed to "completely cleanse" IS from its border region, blaming the group for a bomb attack on a wedding that killed at least 54 people in Gaziantep on Saturday.
Instead, while citing the threat of the Islamic State and Kurdish forces along its border, a threat that its own collusion with US and Persian Gulf States since 2011 helped create, Turkey has decisively helped move forward a crucial part of US plans to dismember Syria and move its campaign of North African and Middle Eastern destabilisation onward and outward.
The response by Syria and its allies in the wake of Turkey's cross-border foray has so far been muted. What, if any actions could be taken to prevent the US and its allies from achieving their plans remain to be seen.
While the toppling of the government in Damascus looks unlikely at the moment, the Balkanisation of Syria was a secondary objective always only ever considered by US policymakers as a mere stop gap until eventually toppling Damascus as well. Conceding eastern and parts of northern Syria to US-led aggression will only buy time.
If this article is true, it doesn't bear well for the mediterranean. It looks like someplace is going to get hit by a nuke.
Turkey Invades Northern Syria — Truth of Turkish "Coup" Revealed?
August 25, 2016 (The New Atlas) - Syria's conflict has escalated into dangerous new territory as Turkish military forces cross the Turkish-Syrian border in an attempt to annex the Syrian city of Jarabulus. The operation includes not only Turkish military forces, but also throngs of Western-backed militants who will likely be handed control of the city before expanding operations deeper into Syria against Syrian government forces.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2016/ ... th-of.html
With the beginning of the operation, aimed allegedly at seizing the city from militants of the so-called Islamic State as well as preventing the city from falling into the hands of advancing US-backed Kurdish forces, Ankara's move has made several things clear about the current geopolitical dimensions of the ongoing regional conflict.
The "US-Backed" July Coup Was Likely Staged
First, with US warplanes providing close air support for Turkish operations, claims by Ankara that the US was behind an attempted coup in July appear to have been fabrications and the coup itself likely staged.
US Vice President Joseph Biden made an official visit to Turkey just this week in what was the highest level visit by a US representative since the attempted coup in July. Vice President Biden discussed bilateral relations and joint US-Turkish military cooperation.
Reuters in its report, "With Biden visit, U.S. seeks balance with truculent Turkey," would claim:
Biden, who visited Latvia on Tuesday, will look to show support with Turkey, while raising concern about the extent of the crackdown, according to officials. Turkey will press its case for Gulen's extradition.
"The vice president will also reaffirm that the United States is doing everything we can to support Turkey's ongoing efforts to hold accountable those responsible for the coup attempt while ensuring the rule of law is respected during the process," a senior Obama administration official told reporters, briefing ahead of Biden's visit on condition of anonymity.
It is difficult to believe that Fethullah Gülen could have orchestrated a violent military coup while residing in the United States without the explicit approval and support of the United States government. Thus, for the US to "hold accountable those responsible for the coup attempt" would require the identification and detainment of those Americans who were involved.
Regarding US joint operations with Turkey specifically, the BBC in its article, "Syria Jarablus: Turkish tanks roll into northern Syria," would report:
An unnamed senior US official in Washington told BBC News before the start of the Turkish operation that it was "partly to create a buffer against the possibility of the Kurds moving forward".
"We are working with them on that potential operation: our advisers are communicating with them on the Jarablus plan.
"We'll give close air support if there's an operation."
It would be likewise difficult to believe that Turkey truly suspected the US of an attempted decapitation of the nation's senior leadership in a violent, abortive coup just last month, only to be conducting joint operations with the US inside Syria with US military forces still based within Turkish territory.
What is much more likely is that the coup was staged to feign a US-Turkish fallout, draw in Russia and allow Turkey to make sweeping purges of any elements within the Turkish armed forces that might oppose a cross-border foray into Syria, a foray that is now unfolding.
Anthony Cartalucci, a Bangkok-based geopolitical analyst would note in a July 18 piece titled, "Turkey's Failed Coup: "A Gift from God" or from Washington?," that:
...the coup was staged - not against Turkey - but in part by it, with the help of not only the United States, but also Gulen's political faction. It will represent a 21st century "Reichstag fire" leading to a 21st century "Hitlerian purge," removing the last remaining obstacles to President Erdogan and the corrosive institutions he has constructed in their collective bid to seize absolute power over Turkey.
And quite to the contrary of those changes one would expect Turkey to make if truly the US engineered this coup to oust, not abet Erdogan, Turkey is very likely to double down on hostility toward neighboring Syria and its allies.
With Turkey now moving into northern Syria, backing militant forces that will go on to fight Syrian forces and prolong the conflict from a new forward base of operations inside Syria and with NATO protection, this is precisely what has now happened.
Building Long-Desired Militant Safe-Havens
The crossing of Syria's border constitutes the fulfilment of longstanding plans predating both the Kurdish offensive and the rise of the Islamic State.
The plans laid by Washington and its regional allies seek to establish a buffer zone or "safe-haven" within Syrian territory unassailable by Syrian forces from which Western-backed militants can launch operations deeper into Syrian territory. Currently, these operations are launched from Turkish territory itself.
With militants being incrementally pushed out of Aleppo and Syrian forces making advances everywhere west of the Euphrates River, it appears that the US is attempting to use Kurdish forces to annex eastern Syria while Turkey's latest move is aimed at finally creating a long-desired northern safe-haven in order to prevent a full collapse of fighting within the country.
British special forces, meanwhile, are reportedly in southern Syrian attempting to carve out a similar haven for militants along Jordan and Iraq's borders with Syria.
The participation of US airpower in the ongoing operation also makes clear the lack of strategic and political depth of US loyalty to its supposed Kurdish allies, a betrayal in motion even as Kurdish forces are being marshalled and directed against Syrian forces by the US in eastern Syria.
Plans for such safe-havens were disclosed as early as 2012, with US policymakers in a Brookings Institution paper titled, "Assessing Options for Regime Change," stating (our emphasis):
An alternative is for diplomatic efforts to focus first on how to end the violence and how to gain humanitarian access, as is being done under [Former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan's] leadership. This may lead to the creation of safe-havens and humanitarian corridors, which would have to be backed by limited military power. This would, of course, fall short of U.S. goals for Syria and could preserve Asad in power. From that starting point, however, it is possible that a broad coalition with the appropriate international mandate could add further coercive action to its efforts.
This is now precisely what is being created, starting in Jarabulus, and likely to extend westward toward Azaz, directly north of the contested Syrian city of Aleppo. Since 2012, various pretexts have been invented, abandoned and then revisited in order to justify a cross-border operation like the one now unfolding.
Creating a Pretext — Staged Terror Attack Was an Option
This included Ankara itself plotting attacks on its own territory to look like cross-border terrorism that could be used as impetus for the creation of a Turkish-controlled Jarabulus-Azaz corridor.
The International Business Times in a 2014 article titled, "Turkey YouTube Ban: Full Transcript of Leaked Syria 'War' Conversation Between Erdogan Officials," would reveal the details of a transcript in which Turkish leadership contemplated staging just such an attack:
Ahmet Davutoğlu: "Prime Minister said that in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen as an opportunity for us."
Hakan Fidan: "I'll send 4 men from Syria, if that's what it takes. I'll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey; we can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb if necessary."
Feridun Sinirlioğlu: "Our national security has become a common, cheap domestic policy outfit."
Yaşar Güler: "It's a direct cause of war. I mean, what're going to do is a direct cause of war."
It may just be a coincidence that a similar provocation unfolded just ahead of the current Turkish cross-border operation. The New York Times in its article, "Wedding Bombing is the Latest in a Series of Deadly Terror Attacks in Turkey," would detail the provocation now being cited for Turkey's current operation:
A bombing on Saturday night at a Kurdish wedding in Gaziantep, a Turkish town near the Syrian border, was one of the deadliest in a string of terrorist attacks that have struck Turkey. Since June 2015, Kurdish and Islamic State militants have staged at least 15 major attacks across Turkey, killing more than 330 people.(bombing kurdish wedding, softest target in turkey and a preferred target for Erdogan's ethnic cleansing policies)
Thus, Turkey's government and a complicit Western media have helped place the blame equally on both the Islamic State and Kurdish militants ahead of the now ongoing cross-border operation.
The above mentioned BBC article would also note:
Turkey has vowed to "completely cleanse" IS from its border region, blaming the group for a bomb attack on a wedding that killed at least 54 people in Gaziantep on Saturday.
Instead, while citing the threat of the Islamic State and Kurdish forces along its border, a threat that its own collusion with US and Persian Gulf States since 2011 helped create, Turkey has decisively helped move forward a crucial part of US plans to dismember Syria and move its campaign of North African and Middle Eastern destabilisation onward and outward.
The response by Syria and its allies in the wake of Turkey's cross-border foray has so far been muted. What, if any actions could be taken to prevent the US and its allies from achieving their plans remain to be seen.
While the toppling of the government in Damascus looks unlikely at the moment, the Balkanisation of Syria was a secondary objective always only ever considered by US policymakers as a mere stop gap until eventually toppling Damascus as well. Conceding eastern and parts of northern Syria to US-led aggression will only buy time.
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Another take,
"However ‘inconvenient’ it may be for most supporters of Syria to admit, Damascus and Ankara have been engaged in secret talks for months now in the Algerian capital of Algiers, as has been repeatedly confirmed by many multiple media sources ever since this spring. Moreover, Turkey just dispatched one of its deputy intelligence chiefs to Damascus a few days ago to meet with his high-level Syrian counterparts, so this might explain the reason why Russia and Iran aren’t condemning Turkey’s incursion into Syria, nor why the Syrian officials aren’t loudly protesting against it either. More and more, the evidence is pointing to Turkey’s operation being part of a larger move that was coordinated in advance with Syria, Russia, and Iran."
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/turkey ... polar.html
"However ‘inconvenient’ it may be for most supporters of Syria to admit, Damascus and Ankara have been engaged in secret talks for months now in the Algerian capital of Algiers, as has been repeatedly confirmed by many multiple media sources ever since this spring. Moreover, Turkey just dispatched one of its deputy intelligence chiefs to Damascus a few days ago to meet with his high-level Syrian counterparts, so this might explain the reason why Russia and Iran aren’t condemning Turkey’s incursion into Syria, nor why the Syrian officials aren’t loudly protesting against it either. More and more, the evidence is pointing to Turkey’s operation being part of a larger move that was coordinated in advance with Syria, Russia, and Iran."
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/turkey ... polar.html
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people need to take their pick, which of the two possibilities above is more probable.
more news from Jarablus residents says there has been no 'turkish operation' in Jarablus, just deployment of Turkish gangs in Jarablus and vicinity.
Turkey does not attack ISIS; ISIS hands over villages to other gangs
Although Turkish media covers the Turkish state’s occupation of Jarablus as a ‘great military operation,’ the villagers of Jarablus state that there is a military employment in the region as opposed to an operation.
Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:00 PM
JARABLUS - ANF
After declaring a curfew in Karkamış across the border of Jarablus and evacuating the town, the Turkish state announced that it launched a military operation code-named ‘Euphrates Shield.’ However, the villagers of Jarablus and the footage that are recorded in the region refute the claims of Turkey and state that there is an extensive military deployment in the region as opposed to an operation. ISIS gangs are reported to have evacuated 4 villages and handed them over to gangs affiliated with Turkey.
‘NO OPERATION OR CLASHES’
A resident of Jarablus’ Karakuyu village, who did not want to share his or her name, stated that Karakuyu is located 12-13 kms away from Jarablus center, and there were no clashes in the town center where only ISIS members remain. The villager noted that Turkish tanks positioned in the village of Keklice located 4 kms away from Jarablus center, and these tanks were not met with any resistance. Residents of villages in Karkamış in the Turkish side of the border also stated that there were no clashes and the Turkish army’s shelling was only for show.
MISE EN SCENE?
The villagers reported that ISIS gangs have been crossing from Jarablus to Turkey in groups of 10-15 people and used private vehicles for transportation. The villagers stated that the gangs that arrived at Turkey were given different uniforms and sent back to Jarablus, and emphasized that Turkey’s operation was a mise en scene.
The silence in Jarablus center and the normal flow of life in Karkamış center despite the curfew strengthen the villagers’ claims that there is only a military deployment as opposed to clashes in the region. It is worth noting that Turkish state forces advance easily and without taking any precautions during their movement, and the silence in Jarablus and around the border continues as the military employment near Jarablus border gate continues.
more news from Jarablus residents says there has been no 'turkish operation' in Jarablus, just deployment of Turkish gangs in Jarablus and vicinity.
Turkey does not attack ISIS; ISIS hands over villages to other gangs
Although Turkish media covers the Turkish state’s occupation of Jarablus as a ‘great military operation,’ the villagers of Jarablus state that there is a military employment in the region as opposed to an operation.
Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:00 PM
JARABLUS - ANF
After declaring a curfew in Karkamış across the border of Jarablus and evacuating the town, the Turkish state announced that it launched a military operation code-named ‘Euphrates Shield.’ However, the villagers of Jarablus and the footage that are recorded in the region refute the claims of Turkey and state that there is an extensive military deployment in the region as opposed to an operation. ISIS gangs are reported to have evacuated 4 villages and handed them over to gangs affiliated with Turkey.
‘NO OPERATION OR CLASHES’
A resident of Jarablus’ Karakuyu village, who did not want to share his or her name, stated that Karakuyu is located 12-13 kms away from Jarablus center, and there were no clashes in the town center where only ISIS members remain. The villager noted that Turkish tanks positioned in the village of Keklice located 4 kms away from Jarablus center, and these tanks were not met with any resistance. Residents of villages in Karkamış in the Turkish side of the border also stated that there were no clashes and the Turkish army’s shelling was only for show.
MISE EN SCENE?
The villagers reported that ISIS gangs have been crossing from Jarablus to Turkey in groups of 10-15 people and used private vehicles for transportation. The villagers stated that the gangs that arrived at Turkey were given different uniforms and sent back to Jarablus, and emphasized that Turkey’s operation was a mise en scene.
The silence in Jarablus center and the normal flow of life in Karkamış center despite the curfew strengthen the villagers’ claims that there is only a military deployment as opposed to clashes in the region. It is worth noting that Turkish state forces advance easily and without taking any precautions during their movement, and the silence in Jarablus and around the border continues as the military employment near Jarablus border gate continues.
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meanwhile in dera-e-wahabbi-islam
seems like if the houthis can take over Najran & Asir, then a lot of tribes will cross over into the anti-Saud camp. From thereon it will be very difficult to curb this incursion.
Houthi forces encircle Saudi Army in strategic city
By News Desk - 24/08/20166
Sanaa, Yemen (11:20 A.M.) – The Houthi foces, alongside the Yemeni Republican Guard, have successfully captured the eastern and western flanks of Najran city in southern Saudi Arabia after a three week long battle with the Saudi Royal Army and Hadi loyalists.
According to Yemen-based “Al-Masirah News,” the Houthi forces and Yemeni Army have managed to breach the Saudi Army’s first line of defense at the Najran Dam, leaving the Saudi-backed groups in serious trouble outside the city.
In addition to their advance at the Najran Dam, the Houthi forces and Yemeni Republican Guard are on the verge of capturing the Najran Valley, which is located south of the city.
Making matters worse for the Saudi Army, some of the local tribes near Najran are turning against the regime in Riyadh, pledging allegiance to the anti-government forces.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ho ... egic-city/
seems like if the houthis can take over Najran & Asir, then a lot of tribes will cross over into the anti-Saud camp. From thereon it will be very difficult to curb this incursion.
Houthi forces encircle Saudi Army in strategic city
By News Desk - 24/08/20166
Sanaa, Yemen (11:20 A.M.) – The Houthi foces, alongside the Yemeni Republican Guard, have successfully captured the eastern and western flanks of Najran city in southern Saudi Arabia after a three week long battle with the Saudi Royal Army and Hadi loyalists.
According to Yemen-based “Al-Masirah News,” the Houthi forces and Yemeni Army have managed to breach the Saudi Army’s first line of defense at the Najran Dam, leaving the Saudi-backed groups in serious trouble outside the city.
In addition to their advance at the Najran Dam, the Houthi forces and Yemeni Republican Guard are on the verge of capturing the Najran Valley, which is located south of the city.
Making matters worse for the Saudi Army, some of the local tribes near Najran are turning against the regime in Riyadh, pledging allegiance to the anti-government forces.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/ho ... egic-city/
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the betrayal looks complete.
Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha 4h4 hours ago
US Secretary of State John Kerry has told Turkey's FM that Kurdish forces in the SDF have withdrawn from the west side of the Euphrates - AA
Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha 4h4 hours ago
US Secretary of State John Kerry has told Turkey's FM that Kurdish forces in the SDF have withdrawn from the west side of the Euphrates - AA
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amrikan LPD dhoti shivering with gatling guns on jeeps on deck during bosporus transit
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/stat ... 4888331268
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/stat ... 4888331268
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turkiye Lt gen greeting a FSA soldier
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/ ... 9906344960
smoothly oiled relationship similar to ISI, PA and the tanzeems...
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/ ... 9906344960
smoothly oiled relationship similar to ISI, PA and the tanzeems...
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she's had to fire warning shots before in the strait of hormuz.Singha wrote:amrikan LPD dhoti shivering with gatling guns on jeeps on deck during bosporus transit
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/stat ... 4888331268
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nice cheap COTS idea there using the jeeps with gatlings....can position on deck and bring in lot more jeeps.
looks cooler than a few 0.50 fixed HMGs along the sides with naval personnel manning them.
looks cooler than a few 0.50 fixed HMGs along the sides with naval personnel manning them.
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life is harsh and Islam does not favor the unprepared.......and getting promoted from ship's captain to admiral is an arduous task.
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>> Islam does not favor the unprepared.
true - very true.
true - very true.
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whatever goodwill Kurds had with assad and russia they squandered by acting tough in hasakah. now all are attacking them (FSA, turkiye army, ISIS) , standing by while they get attacked (SAA, RuAF) , or withdrew support and watching the fun (USA, barzani peshmerga!)
Iran has also launched a brutal crackdown in western provinces, where the kurds had launched some attacks perhaps under others encouragement.
Iran has also launched a brutal crackdown in western provinces, where the kurds had launched some attacks perhaps under others encouragement.
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So Kurdistan is now a no go for everyone involved?
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well they still retain the manbij pocket, and the eastern bank of the euphrates from hasakah-qamishli-sinjar down to ash-shahdadi as a rump of rojava and the afrin pocket on west surrounded by turkey, islamic emirate of idlib and nubl-zahra SAA NW aleppo front. only SAA will help them there as also sheikh maqsood pocket in aleppo city.
syria govt is unwilling to give up hasakah city as many arabs and non-kurds prefer them over kurd rule . its going to be a union territory surrounded by Rojava.
likewise the deir azzor region , kurds are not a factor - its all arab = so ISIS vs Assad choice there. SAA will advance to it from palmyra side in due course.
the rich oil and gas rich regions of eastern Homs , palmyra are in the bag for Assad. Deir azzor assad is holding at all costs because of the oil rich region around it AND to have a contiguous front with the Hashd PMU eventual advance to Qaim on Iraqi border and swat out the "new syrian army" thing on his southern fringes
for Kurds current is about all their takings from the table unless US changes its side yet again and lets them march on Al-bab with air support. else FSA will slowly replace ISIS there under track2 planned handover channels.
I can see the Idlib emirate is going to be the biggest issue for Assad if allowed to stabilize, flower and gain international legitimacy. its like having a new Pakistan next door. a clearing house of international jihadis and cats paw of turkey.
syria govt is unwilling to give up hasakah city as many arabs and non-kurds prefer them over kurd rule . its going to be a union territory surrounded by Rojava.
likewise the deir azzor region , kurds are not a factor - its all arab = so ISIS vs Assad choice there. SAA will advance to it from palmyra side in due course.
the rich oil and gas rich regions of eastern Homs , palmyra are in the bag for Assad. Deir azzor assad is holding at all costs because of the oil rich region around it AND to have a contiguous front with the Hashd PMU eventual advance to Qaim on Iraqi border and swat out the "new syrian army" thing on his southern fringes
for Kurds current is about all their takings from the table unless US changes its side yet again and lets them march on Al-bab with air support. else FSA will slowly replace ISIS there under track2 planned handover channels.
I can see the Idlib emirate is going to be the biggest issue for Assad if allowed to stabilize, flower and gain international legitimacy. its like having a new Pakistan next door. a clearing house of international jihadis and cats paw of turkey.
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US F22s Shadow Syrian Jets
Two American fighter pilots who intercepted Syrian combat jets over northern Syria last week said they came within 2,000 feet of the planes without the Syrians aware they were being shadowed....
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F22 production line is long over ,,, perhaps the fight now is for upgrade packages and life extention programs...
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settlement reached in daraya city in extreme south.
city is 80% in ruins and will be run by Govt
civilians all allowed to leave
jihadi tomcats who still want to fight will be bused by red crescent and released into the wild in Idlib border again
jihadis who want to rejoin mainstream will be rehabilitated
weapons will all be left behind
city is 80% in ruins and will be run by Govt
civilians all allowed to leave
jihadi tomcats who still want to fight will be bused by red crescent and released into the wild in Idlib border again
jihadis who want to rejoin mainstream will be rehabilitated
weapons will all be left behind
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The f-35 can also do the same as the f-22. It just can't dog fight as well as the f-22. It must rely on its net centric avionics systems and weapons suite which is quite extensive.
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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/n ... -East.html
United Kurdistan and a partitioned Middle East
United Kurdistan and a partitioned Middle East
The sudden move by Bashar al-Assad’s regime in the city of Al-Hassakah, north eastern Syria, was really interesting both in terms of the target chosen and the timing. The regime has launched air raids against Kurdish militias inside the city and its environs while there are increasing signs of a scaling down of tension between Turkey and Iran, specifically after the visit of Mohammad Jawad Zarif, Iran’s foreign minister to Turkey.Contrary to Washington’s silent approval of a “Greater Kurdistan”, it is obvious that neither Ankara nor Tehran accept such a project; indeed, it is where their interests converge. In the meantime, since the failed coup attempts Turkish leaders have been sending ambiguous signs regarding Ankara’s current views on the Assad regime which may be construed as indirect messages to influential regional players.This has been taking place while preparations gather pace in Iraq for the “liberation of Mosul”, against continued confusion surrounding the roles of the Kurdish Peshmerga and Shi’ite ‘People’s Mobilisation’ militias in the expected battle for Mosul, the Arab Sunnis’ largest city in Iraq.
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chanakyaa wrote:Y.Kanan, so you are saying that upon returning from Moskow (emphasis, Erdo went to Moskow, Pooteen did not visit Istanbul), he feels so confident that he can show his teeth without expecting any consequences?? C'mon on....it is very tough to believe that. In fact Russians, may have trapped YooS and Erdo in a awkward position (and I wonder that is why Bye-den visiting him). Forget Erdo's territorial ambitions, and regardless of who you are rooting for, i bet Erdo is thinking that the opportunity to eliminate or severely minimize curdish threat is now and it may not happen with YooS blessing/partnership (fortunately or unfortunately), knowing fully well that YooS has not shied away from supporting independent curdish nation/state....
snahata wrote:Completely disagree kanan saheb on your analysis.It is not the size of the dog but fight in the dog.It is my prediction if NATO attacks Russia with conventional forces on Russian soil they will be defeated and their armies destroyed without using any nuclear weapons. It has happened several times already in the last few centuries and I hope the Europeans and Americans have learned that lesson.Because if they have not they will learn it the hard way again.
It is also my prediction that Russia will come out ahead in the Syrian crisis keep watching grand master Putin,s next move.It is true that Russia does not have a land border with Syria and that limits options for the Russian army unlike in Ukraine but Russia has plenty of naval and air power they can bring to bear if and when necessary as also air borne troops if needed.
If u look at historical battles like Alexander vs durius or Babar vs Lodhi. it is the much smaller army that won.Modern warfare is not the same I understand but basic concept have not changed. More things change more they are the same as they say.
Victory in wars have very little to do with size of the economy and the bigger economy therefore will be the winner, not at all.American economy was much bigger than German economy at the start of the 2nd world war but I am sure that german army would have bitten the crap out of americans in a land war one to one.
Come on - common sense will tell you the US, or even Turkey, could wipe out all the Russian air power in Syria with a series of concentrated strikes in less than a day (if they were willing to risk nuclear war). That's been true since Day 1 of the intervention. If Russia didn't have nukes, their Syrian expeditionary force probably would have been wiped out already (indeed would never have been sent). The fact is, Russia has very limited conventional combat power in theatre. Only in a defensive war on its own soil could Russia prevail without using nukes. To believe otherwise demonstrates an inability to think critically. Those who pump up Russian military power are the same ones who like to engage in delusional chest puffing and jingoism about our own military, too.habal wrote:incredibly weak, miniscule, military weakness, huge bluff .. you nees to stop using such incredible superlatives because without Russia there would well have been no Syria today, the country was 2/3rd gawn. From a position of incredible disadvantage, Assad forces are in advantageous position through out Syria and on the offensive instead of on the defensive. Now, within a few weeks they will take over aleppo too .. was all this imaginable in jan, 2015.
I see things as they really are, not as I wish them to be.
Anyway none of this takes away from the miracle Russia has pulled off in Syria. They saved a dying regime and turned the situation around 180 degrees, stopping another monumental US war crime in the making and keeping the jihadist hordes from taking over Syria. Deploying just a handful of combat aircraft and a few ships, they called the US bluff in Syria and faced down both Turkey and the Saudi bloc in the process. Russia did so much more with so much less than anyone else over there, it's really incredible. The Russian effort in Syria has been a triumph of superior strategy, superior diplomatic maneuvering, and just overall superior intellect vs the clumsy, inept Americans who manage to squander their VAST superiority in money, combat power, and every other advantage under the sun. This may go down in history as the textbook example of how a weak but determined nation can beat much larger foes by out thinking them. I just hope the US\Turkey\GCC don't completely flood Syria with MANPADs and Javelin missiles. This has only been done on a limited scale so far.
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while on the surface the current events in north syria look like a naked betrayal of the kurds by everyone else (assad, turkey, russia, usa), the Indic gene of finding chankian explanations to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat did have a ancient spread from its home range out west to the kurdish pride lands as well. a guy named agitpapa who is kurdish supporter and does not mince words has this theory...
- both Rus and US have a joint plan to hammer both AQ and ISIS using their proxies and expending least amt of their own blood and treasure
- turkey is also signed up for this "secret" plan now but the big2 are double crossing them as the plan extends further out ...
- turkey has opened the jarablous front and paying higher wages for much easier work to Idlib and aleppo jihadists who have eagerly flocked to this new assignment , denuding the aleppo front and idlib rear areas of the kind of reserve Al Muhaysini needs to hold aleppo or take the offensive again
- turkey is not interfering in Latakia, the jihadis there have plenty of weapons and good terrain advantage so its heavy slogging for desert hawks there
- as part of this plan, SAA was supposed to use this lull to close the aleppo gap and secure the western flanks of the city permanently...but due to inept leaderhip have made a hash of it thus far....instead of massing artillery, 5000 fighters and drone spotting like jihadis did to break through in a few days, they sent 3 tanks and 50 people daily to the same axis in artillery college and lose 2 tank and 20 people to well prepared mortar teams, snipers and hidden ATGM positions...repeat N times. neither iran or russian advisers seem to be playing any role and people say other than tiger and zahreddine, the saa generals are portly desk jockeys loyal to assad, not field generals. SAA is also short on manpower and "massive reinforcements" means a couple of busload of raw iraqi lads and 10 technicals.
- people are hoping SAA get it together and still get it done in due course
- Erdogan has asked his army to make a broad push into north syrian arab and kurd lands, neither of whom want him there. to rouse public anger his fighters have bombed some villages. now reports of arabi jaish al thuwar and other formations flocking to this 'great patriotic war' with the YPG and heavily armed with western weapons. they have started to take out turkish tanks with milans .... this is Erdogans way of punishing his army as a whole by ordering them into a swamp with PKK at their back and YPG/Thuwar on the front.
- the Kurds will be asked by US to lead a move on Raqqa instead of al-bab, something they were very reluctant to do
- russia will help SAA push forward from palmyra to deir azzor and thin out the raqqa defences. maybe the crocodiles will return from latakia to the bull run along Ithriyah-Tabqah road again, this time with american bombers and drones in support overhead
- in this manner ISIS will be destroyed along with the Mosul deal between iraqis and kurd formations
- next the Nusra will be declared wajb ul Qatl and open season on them in Idlib and north syria, with turks double crossing them and withdrawing artillery support. SAA and Kurds with air support to slaughter them and finish them off jointly, this is the double crossing of the big2 against Turkey and rojava under a federal syria govt gets formed along the turk border ... or turkey gets to retain some buffer zone but concedes the rest...
its a very long and complicated plan but i just wrote what i read
- both Rus and US have a joint plan to hammer both AQ and ISIS using their proxies and expending least amt of their own blood and treasure
- turkey is also signed up for this "secret" plan now but the big2 are double crossing them as the plan extends further out ...
- turkey has opened the jarablous front and paying higher wages for much easier work to Idlib and aleppo jihadists who have eagerly flocked to this new assignment , denuding the aleppo front and idlib rear areas of the kind of reserve Al Muhaysini needs to hold aleppo or take the offensive again
- turkey is not interfering in Latakia, the jihadis there have plenty of weapons and good terrain advantage so its heavy slogging for desert hawks there
- as part of this plan, SAA was supposed to use this lull to close the aleppo gap and secure the western flanks of the city permanently...but due to inept leaderhip have made a hash of it thus far....instead of massing artillery, 5000 fighters and drone spotting like jihadis did to break through in a few days, they sent 3 tanks and 50 people daily to the same axis in artillery college and lose 2 tank and 20 people to well prepared mortar teams, snipers and hidden ATGM positions...repeat N times. neither iran or russian advisers seem to be playing any role and people say other than tiger and zahreddine, the saa generals are portly desk jockeys loyal to assad, not field generals. SAA is also short on manpower and "massive reinforcements" means a couple of busload of raw iraqi lads and 10 technicals.
- people are hoping SAA get it together and still get it done in due course
- Erdogan has asked his army to make a broad push into north syrian arab and kurd lands, neither of whom want him there. to rouse public anger his fighters have bombed some villages. now reports of arabi jaish al thuwar and other formations flocking to this 'great patriotic war' with the YPG and heavily armed with western weapons. they have started to take out turkish tanks with milans .... this is Erdogans way of punishing his army as a whole by ordering them into a swamp with PKK at their back and YPG/Thuwar on the front.
- the Kurds will be asked by US to lead a move on Raqqa instead of al-bab, something they were very reluctant to do
- russia will help SAA push forward from palmyra to deir azzor and thin out the raqqa defences. maybe the crocodiles will return from latakia to the bull run along Ithriyah-Tabqah road again, this time with american bombers and drones in support overhead
- in this manner ISIS will be destroyed along with the Mosul deal between iraqis and kurd formations
- next the Nusra will be declared wajb ul Qatl and open season on them in Idlib and north syria, with turks double crossing them and withdrawing artillery support. SAA and Kurds with air support to slaughter them and finish them off jointly, this is the double crossing of the big2 against Turkey and rojava under a federal syria govt gets formed along the turk border ... or turkey gets to retain some buffer zone but concedes the rest...
its a very long and complicated plan but i just wrote what i read
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after invading yemen, the saudis are now recruiting yemenis to fight the war in southern saudi arabia
Al-Masdar News @TheArabSource 8h8 hours ago
#Saudi Arabia recruit 5,000 from #Yemen to join border guards
Al-Masdar News @TheArabSource 8h8 hours ago
#Saudi Arabia recruit 5,000 from #Yemen to join border guards
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rt.com
Russian airline carriers began filing requests to the Russian Transport Ministry for starting charter flights to Turkey after Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree which lifted the previous ban.
Russian airline carriers began filing requests to the Russian Transport Ministry for starting charter flights to Turkey after Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree which lifted the previous ban.
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Ru has adapted the iskander TEL to fire both the original ballistic iskander and what looks like kalibr..zircon will surely be added soon
https://www.rt.com/news/340024-iskander ... nch-video/
https://www.rt.com/news/340024-iskander ... nch-video/
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30km now separates the Al-Rai and Jarablous fronts
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Assad will likely let his show run for a while, once the turks and associates are well settled will hand over loads of Metis/Kornets/Konkurs to the YPG to have a go at isolated posts/patrols and supply lines while professing moral n diplomatic support.
game of thrones with no end...
PKK will have a field day gnawing at the thick shaft of supply convoys the invasion force will need to sustain themselves. looting chickens and goats from local villagers is probably not a sustainable plan...one or two massacres and people will either migrate south to rojava or fight.
one school of thought says Erdogan wants to depopulate these border tracks of syria and settle his own frontier folk of Idlib jihadis, Uighurs, poorer turkish peasants as a buffer..this is a strategy many empires have used in the past...the ahoms even put captured muslim troops to work as a settled farmers on the border tracts with the restive naga and arunachali tribes. the romans used germanic and frankish auxiliaries attached to their core legions, in later phase of roman empire these vassal peoples made up more of the army than the original legions. eventually they all broke free and the empire collapsed.
and above this mess, the eagle and the winged bear circle impassively in the upper atmosphere playing their own games...
game of thrones with no end...
PKK will have a field day gnawing at the thick shaft of supply convoys the invasion force will need to sustain themselves. looting chickens and goats from local villagers is probably not a sustainable plan...one or two massacres and people will either migrate south to rojava or fight.
one school of thought says Erdogan wants to depopulate these border tracks of syria and settle his own frontier folk of Idlib jihadis, Uighurs, poorer turkish peasants as a buffer..this is a strategy many empires have used in the past...the ahoms even put captured muslim troops to work as a settled farmers on the border tracts with the restive naga and arunachali tribes. the romans used germanic and frankish auxiliaries attached to their core legions, in later phase of roman empire these vassal peoples made up more of the army than the original legions. eventually they all broke free and the empire collapsed.
and above this mess, the eagle and the winged bear circle impassively in the upper atmosphere playing their own games...
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It is nearing 1 full year of Russian intervention. INitial cries from spectators were on the lines of ..
"Ooooh Russians do not have any money, they do not have any economoney, they are not the old soviet union, they are overreaching themselves, they are shaking in their boots" etc etc all lie by the way side.
Today,
1. No one in Russia is talking of Russian intervention in Syria. Or costs involved.
2. Not even western media is saying that Russians are going to withdraw from Syria due to "financial pressures".
3. No talk of war being too costly because Russia is under "sanctions".
4. Rather than decreasing their presence in mid-east Russians are considering to increase it. Yemen has invited Russia into Sanaa and Russia has not denied yet.
5. britain's new PM is going to meet Putin, this is clear sign of times as the power-hungry brits always go the way the wind is blowing. The biggest poodles of Uncle Scam are cosying upto Putin shows their acceptance of Putin as one with higher power projection and admission of their being incapable to match that level of power despite teaming up with Uncle Scam. A tacit admission of defeat.
"Ooooh Russians do not have any money, they do not have any economoney, they are not the old soviet union, they are overreaching themselves, they are shaking in their boots" etc etc all lie by the way side.
Today,
1. No one in Russia is talking of Russian intervention in Syria. Or costs involved.
2. Not even western media is saying that Russians are going to withdraw from Syria due to "financial pressures".
3. No talk of war being too costly because Russia is under "sanctions".
4. Rather than decreasing their presence in mid-east Russians are considering to increase it. Yemen has invited Russia into Sanaa and Russia has not denied yet.
5. britain's new PM is going to meet Putin, this is clear sign of times as the power-hungry brits always go the way the wind is blowing. The biggest poodles of Uncle Scam are cosying upto Putin shows their acceptance of Putin as one with higher power projection and admission of their being incapable to match that level of power despite teaming up with Uncle Scam. A tacit admission of defeat.
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Russia Has Won The War.
The Russian intervention has saved the Syrian government and later on in history it will be seen as Russia more than Iran as the saviour of Syria.
Rightly or wrongly that will be the general perception.
This move has highlighted Russian power and global power projection with other states now being clearly aware of Russia's military prowess even Britain is getting ready to talk to Putin.
Will Russia stay in Syria for another year? Well I think it will stay in Syria forever, in the sense of their Tartus base and now expanded military privileges. It will have an active combat force as now for as long as required even if that takes another year or several years.
If Trump becomes President it is end of Pax-Americana. If Hillary becomes President the grinding and slow rate of defeat will continue, and people of USA will feel the pain, the ignominy and humiliation of their country on daily basis on worldwide fora.
USA despite trying it's level best has not been able to topple Assad and win in Syria.
USA has failed.
And it has lost the war.
The Russian intervention has saved the Syrian government and later on in history it will be seen as Russia more than Iran as the saviour of Syria.
Rightly or wrongly that will be the general perception.
This move has highlighted Russian power and global power projection with other states now being clearly aware of Russia's military prowess even Britain is getting ready to talk to Putin.
Will Russia stay in Syria for another year? Well I think it will stay in Syria forever, in the sense of their Tartus base and now expanded military privileges. It will have an active combat force as now for as long as required even if that takes another year or several years.
If Trump becomes President it is end of Pax-Americana. If Hillary becomes President the grinding and slow rate of defeat will continue, and people of USA will feel the pain, the ignominy and humiliation of their country on daily basis on worldwide fora.
USA despite trying it's level best has not been able to topple Assad and win in Syria.
USA has failed.
And it has lost the war.
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^^ maybe but the western/gcc combine still has the ability and willingness (esp under a probable hillary govt) to keep this mess going for years and inflict untold more misery on the middle east.
burn baby burn is their motto.
the baltic states and the ukraine are being pumped up to be the new proxy pakistans in a way and seek confrontation.
burn baby burn is their motto.
the baltic states and the ukraine are being pumped up to be the new proxy pakistans in a way and seek confrontation.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryGfys/
Spectacular gifs of VBIEDs/Sniper/Military p0rn in this thread.
Saudi incompetence in Yemen also is available in gif form.
Spectacular gifs of VBIEDs/Sniper/Military p0rn in this thread.
Saudi incompetence in Yemen also is available in gif form.
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the war in yemen has moved across the border in KSA.
they hired african mercs to fight the war in yemen
now they hired 5000 yemeni mercs to fight the war in KSA
the entire Hejaz region their west coast incl the holy cities was under Jordanian hashemite rule until the british plotted and handed it over to Al saud family. its ripe for the picking and deserves to be ruled as a separate vatican of sorts under a more 'moderate' regime.
they hired african mercs to fight the war in yemen
now they hired 5000 yemeni mercs to fight the war in KSA
the entire Hejaz region their west coast incl the holy cities was under Jordanian hashemite rule until the british plotted and handed it over to Al saud family. its ripe for the picking and deserves to be ruled as a separate vatican of sorts under a more 'moderate' regime.
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Apart from Kerry jumping around, I cannot see any more significant moves apart from closing the bosphorus which they already attempted through coup, that USA and western allies can do about it. Now the joke is on them and EU is disbanding and falling apart. Poland has chosen RMB as reserve currency and disposed away US $. Hungary is raring to get out of EU and take no refugees and awaiting referendum. Russia AT Hmaymim means that they have the Turks and NATO under their thumb up there being just pretty much down the road from Incirlik, all that backed up by the S-400 , their state of the art Jamming system and Khibiny , i think Khibiny were used during the attempted Coup , but we might hear about that later.
West has tried all that they could, and they have failed to make much dent apart from civilian casualties, which for them is a victory but they will have to satisfy themselves with such deprivations as "victories". That is what they have been reduced to. If these ain't signs of victory for you, wonder what is. As a nation drowned in fake & make believe H&D they will never openly admit defeat.
In the 73' war when the USSR were resupplying Syria , Turkey threatened to close the Bosphorus, Brezhnev sent them a message saying that if they close the Bhosporus he will widen it by a hundred miles - with a nuclear Bomb, the Turks got the message. They never again threaten to close it.
West has tried all that they could, and they have failed to make much dent apart from civilian casualties, which for them is a victory but they will have to satisfy themselves with such deprivations as "victories". That is what they have been reduced to. If these ain't signs of victory for you, wonder what is. As a nation drowned in fake & make believe H&D they will never openly admit defeat.
In the 73' war when the USSR were resupplying Syria , Turkey threatened to close the Bosphorus, Brezhnev sent them a message saying that if they close the Bhosporus he will widen it by a hundred miles - with a nuclear Bomb, the Turks got the message. They never again threaten to close it.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cqya1LDWgAAxqxQ.png
^ map shows houthis have reached the outskirts of the KSA border city of najran and overrun a bunch of facilities ...
one writer on themess forums:
SA is in deep trouble. They are just powerless against the Yemeni troops.
Nothing new under the sun, the real problem is that this time is not inside Yemen, but on KSA proper. Morale is nowhere to be seen, good permanent defensive positions are overrun in a matter of minutes. Troops rout, running for their lives leaving their weapons and gear behind, they dont even think about holding their ground and calling for artillery support or CAS. Any NATO squad/platoon size units would be able to hold their ground and fight.Or at least hold their own until support can be provided if odds are overwhelming, but SA troops are so terrified of Yemenis that they just turn tails drop their guns and run away... only to meet their death.
Fear is a killer.
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The Saudi army is completely incapable of the most small scale offensive operations, or even of engaging in close combat for 10 minutes without retreating.
The only thing holding back the Houthi advance appears to be the large number of helicopter gunships flying around Najran and Jizan, for which the Houthis do not have an effective counter.
A few hundred stingers would drastically alter the situation, but I suspect that the Russians and Iranians are holding back to prevent these same weapons from appearing in large quantities in the Syria conflict.
^ map shows houthis have reached the outskirts of the KSA border city of najran and overrun a bunch of facilities ...
one writer on themess forums:
SA is in deep trouble. They are just powerless against the Yemeni troops.
Nothing new under the sun, the real problem is that this time is not inside Yemen, but on KSA proper. Morale is nowhere to be seen, good permanent defensive positions are overrun in a matter of minutes. Troops rout, running for their lives leaving their weapons and gear behind, they dont even think about holding their ground and calling for artillery support or CAS. Any NATO squad/platoon size units would be able to hold their ground and fight.Or at least hold their own until support can be provided if odds are overwhelming, but SA troops are so terrified of Yemenis that they just turn tails drop their guns and run away... only to meet their death.
Fear is a killer.
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The Saudi army is completely incapable of the most small scale offensive operations, or even of engaging in close combat for 10 minutes without retreating.
The only thing holding back the Houthi advance appears to be the large number of helicopter gunships flying around Najran and Jizan, for which the Houthis do not have an effective counter.
A few hundred stingers would drastically alter the situation, but I suspect that the Russians and Iranians are holding back to prevent these same weapons from appearing in large quantities in the Syria conflict.