Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 20 Mar 2014 15:37

BJP is better going all alone here

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Mar 2014 15:52

Rajnath Singh is now holding a Press Conference with all the new NDA leaders from Tamil Nadu officially launching TN NDA.

One can see it on Puthiya Thalaimurai TV.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 20 Mar 2014 15:56

Thanks for catching that Vishant, I too wanted to ask the poster what did he mean by 'original race'? I found it very offending, will report the trash post.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Mar 2014 15:56

Rajnath Singh now saying he got proposals for LK Advani to contest from two places: Gandhinagar, GJ and Bhopal, MP.

The choice has been left to LKA. He can contest from where ever he wishes.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 20 Mar 2014 15:58

Atleast in TN, they haven't had tie ups with the major parties, which can subsume BJP like BJD/Akali or to an extent JD(U). None of the these parties can capture the imagination of the majority so that gives BJP some growing room. I am holding my peace for this election.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Mar 2014 16:08

TN NDA

Gujju Gajamani ‏@gajamani 11m
4/4 BJP(8) - S'Chennai Vellore Nilgris Kovai Tanjore Sivanganga Ramnad Kanyakumari

Gujju Gajamani ‏@gajamani 11m
3/n MDMK(7) - Kanchi Erode Theni V'nagar Tuticorin Sriperum Tenkasi
KMDK - Pollachi

Gujju Gajamani ‏@gajamani 12m
2/n DMDK - Nellai Tiruppur
PMK(8) - Arakkonam Krishnagiri Arani Chidambaram Dharmapuri Mayiladuthurai TVMalai Nagai
IJK - Perambalur

Gujju Gajamani ‏@gajamani 13m
TN NDA DMDK(14) - Tiruvallur Central Chennai North Chennai Vilupuram Kallakurichi Salem Namakkal Karur Dindugal Karur Kadalur Madurai 1/n

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Mar 2014 16:54

from all over India, great warriors, war elephants, armies, tribes, warlike renunciates are on the march to the ancient battlegrounds of Indraprastha.....Indraprastha, where demi-gods have blessed the world with their presence...now a dark necrophilic ruin under the Coven of the Dark Lords......fires everywhere...blackened stumps of trees.....evil winged creatures patrolling the red skies.....

the birth of the New Order must be from Indraprastha.

Javee · Post by **Javee** » 20 Mar 2014 17:21

TN BJP leaders can go screw themselves, I'm seriously disillusioned with this seat sharing. Gave most plum seats in Central and North TN to DMDK.

I see 3-5 seats for the combo, windfall for Amma.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 20 Mar 2014 17:49

saravanaji,
BJPs alliances with Akalis and ShivSena have their shortcomings.But BJP is much stronger in MH than in TN.If you have been reading Atrijis posts,you will notice BJP is strong in Vidharbha and growing in Marathwada.They seem to have a remarkable leader in Devendra Phadnavis.Also MH is already aligned to Hindu nationalist politics.Also Akalis are pretty strong in Punjab.he Akalis are 'credible' in an electoral sense as they lead the alliance and have been in power many times.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 20 Mar 2014 17:52

There are rumblings everywhere, hard core BJP & Modi supporters are now scared of the mess up because of seat distributions. There are only 543 seats, and million BJP wallahs who wants to contest, so barring a few millions are going to be disappointed, along with their supporters.

This should have been expected, and the distributions announced a little sooner, so damage and appeasements (of factions) can be carried out. Hopefully, there is still time. Almost all alliances and BJP supporters have grievances - could not have been avoided. Hope things are sorted by this weekend, and a unified BJP marches on.

member_28173 · Post by **member_28173** » 20 Mar 2014 18:06

RajeshA wrote:Rajnath Singh now saying he got proposals for LK Advani to contest from two places: Gandhinagar, GJ and Bhopal, MP.

The choice has been left to LKA. He can contest from where ever he wishes.

>> Very happy.... Not sure why... but happy.. Wow !!! Even token respect for Advani is so much pain reliever.

NaMo Should openly say to LKA look Gujarat is Good shape. Can you be CM of Gujarat !!!
Full Freedom to execute Nationalist plans... Make Gujarat the biggest and newest startup.....

Beat me in my game...

NOTE : I believe CM of Gujarat ( In Good Shape ) is equal to Job to PM of India ( in Bad Shape ).
This basic belief makes still makes me feel why does Gujarat CM needs to be PM of India .
It is NO Promotion ( Except on Paper ).... And Hence looking around for CTs.... Something does not add up. Yes I am so-called-die-hard-regionalist....

This is give enough masala for MSM to talk for years.....

member_28108 · Post by **member_28108** » 20 Mar 2014 18:08

One great advantage in all of this (and makes me wonder indeed if it is a plan) is Kejriwal has been totally sidelined in his sound bites. In fact even Kapil Sibal (having problems in hios own party) said that this is a part of the problem in politics(or else he will get his a$$ bit later as there is anyway lot of pitching for seats).

geeth · Post by **geeth** » 20 Mar 2014 18:34

From the soundbites I can here, the ticket distribution and alliance formation have been much more smoother than previous elections..particularly when you take into consideration the uncanny knack of MSM to make moutains out of molehills about adversities faced by BJP.

Nitesh · Post by **Nitesh** » 20 Mar 2014 18:38

Just now breaking at niti central

‪#‎Breaking‬: ‪#‎Advani‬ relents, will contest from ‪#‎Gandhinagar‬.

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 20 Mar 2014 18:46

LKA was going to contest from G'nagar....Everything else was a drama.

G'nagar is one of the safest seat for BJP.....

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 20 Mar 2014 19:12

Retweeted by Mamtaニガム
J Gopikrishnan ‏@jgopikrishnan70 41m

Seems none can cross NandanNilakeni. Assets declared is Rs.7700cr!!. 2009 LS election PepperSprayerRajagopal with aroundRs.300cr was highest

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 20 Mar 2014 19:49

amdavadi wrote:LKA was going to contest from G'nagar....Everything else was a drama..

+1 -- some one was asking (taunting) "Where is Sanku" today morning. I am here onlee.

Since I am not a bird, I dont flap much.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 20 Mar 2014 19:55

svenkat wrote:saravanaji,
.Also MH is already aligned to Hindu nationalist politics.Also Akalis are pretty strong in Punjab.he Akalis are 'credible' in an electoral sense as they lead the alliance and have been in power many times.

svenkat sir, I thought this requires a longer reply, please bear with me.
First, size of alliance partner. There is always this dilemma of choosing a larger alliance partner or forming a third front kind of alliances with smaller parties. In TN alliances with DMK or ADMK may get electoral results but neither of the party leaders will allow BJP to grow. It was the same deal in Orissa, same deal in Punjab right now. BJP hasn't found traction in either of the state while under the alliance. Anytime a leader like Nitish or Patnaik dumps them, usually before an election, they have to scramble. The same thing happened with DMK in 2004. So this is not a long term solution. The second option is third front deal in state, which is what BJP seems to be doing now wherever there is no long term partner: in Bihar Haryana, TN, Assam(?). This will maximise the options now while making it possible for BJP to go alone without too many repercussions. I am not that knowledgeable about SS's prospects in MH, inspite of excellent posts by Atriji. how different is the reach from say, Gaptan party? Like how presence of Delhi media works for AAP, being in Bombay gives a multiplier effect for Sena. Madras is hardly in the mindspace of anyone, so even bigger parties wont get traction.
Second, aligning to Hindu nationalist politics. Now this is a bit controversial. Who is the Hindu Nationalist party in India? I can't find any. Not that I want it right now. But is BJP one, in the current form? Aligning with BJP doesn't mean I get a certificate of being Hindu. . You must be knowing the area of T.Nagar in Madras. I heard that there is a turf battle between "seculars" and others for real estate in that area. Are those non "secular" owners Hindu nationalists? Let us not anoint Hindu rakshaks arbitrarily. I resent the idea that somehow SS and Akalis are in alignment with nationalistic agenda and *MK parties are not. Everyone takes care of their own sub self interest first. Hinduism comes later, hardly any exceptions.
Thirdly, UP and TN have both regional parties primarily. UP somehow is aligned with national issues and TN somehow is like a Gaul village in Asterix. I know you didn't say this but I am adding this for completeness in my reply. This perception is not going to go away and no number of additional information is not going to change this. People have to just get used to it, that's all.
That is why, I think, NaMo smartly doesn't dabble in all these. He knows that these issues and 10 Rs can buy a cup of coffee. That is why he is going with the idea of development which resonates with everyone.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 20 Mar 2014 20:19

amdavadi wrote:LKA was going to contest from G'nagar....Everything else was a drama..

Sanku wrote: +1 -- some one was asking (taunting) "Where is Sanku" today morning. I am here onlee.

Since I am not a bird, I dont flap much.

but still, he did a drama which is unnecessary. Not everything is MSM creation. He did a drama and now Jaswant is starting one more. One was done by Sushma earlier. There is one on going by Kailash Joshi from Bhopal. There is a sting that may comeout where Kailash Joshi is asking 1 crore rupees for Bhopal seat. He want to vacate but with a cost apparently.

These is the type of stuff why 2009 was lost. We cannot say "all is well" with these 80+ year old maharathis. Why can't they negotiate for a RS membership if they are genuine instead of doing all these dramas.

Whether we want to call D4 or D25 or whatever, there is a anti-Modi club that grudgingly accepted Modi because they have no choice. However, they are cribbing all the way at seats and with un-necessary tweets.

They love being in opposition and give bhaasans but not work to make BJP come to power. There is no need to take cover under MSM as it will always do whatever it is good at.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 20 Mar 2014 20:41

Mupalla-ji -- we can not hope for, or even expect 400% alignment. Let some namak-mircha-tadka be there. The main thing is over-all alignment is working well. And some drama keeps media employed and focussed on Modi/BJP no ? Why let a professional nautankibaaz hog the limelight ?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 20 Mar 2014 20:55

Sanku wrote:Mupalla-ji -- we can not hope for, or even expect 400% alignment. Let some namak-mircha-tadka be there. The main thing is over-all alignment is working well. And some drama keeps media employed and focussed on Modi/BJP no ? Why let a professional nautankibaaz hog the limelight ?

We shouldn't expect. It is good to see that all these grudging/grumpy folks are being taken to task. Advani, Joshi are not worries except that it is disappointing to see elders not having humility.

The actual worrisome is what Sushma tried to pull off in Haryana. The team has taken care for now but she needs to be shown the door. You cannot allow someone who is pulling rug under the feet.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 Mar 2014 20:56

Interesting choice of candidates from BSP. This is only for the 68 seats BJP has declared so far. BSP has a lot of muslim candidates this time mainly in western UP and pockets. I think this will boomerang on her. Some of her brahmin candidates are in seats where BJP has brahmins, and i doubt if that will get her any brahmin votes in such seats.

She has 2-3 muslims in the remaining 12 seats which are not in this table. I will put that after BJP puts its candidates.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 20 Mar 2014 21:04

yup astute observation!! Hope Mulayam has a similar list

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 20 Mar 2014 21:20

muraliravi wrote:

Interesting choice of candidates from BSP. This is only for the 68 seats BJP has declared so far. BSP has a lot of muslim candidates this time mainly in western UP and pockets. I think this will boomerang on her. Some of her brahmin candidates are in seats where BJP has brahmins, and i doubt if that will get her any brahmin votes in such seats.

She has 2-3 muslims in the remaining 12 seats which are not in this table. I will put that after BJP puts its candidates.

Appeaser vs Stronger Appeaser vs Strongest Appeaser

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 20 Mar 2014 21:27

Javee wrote:TN BJP leaders can go screw themselves, I'm seriously disillusioned with this seat sharing. Gave most plum seats in Central and North TN to DMDK.

I see 3-5 seats for the combo, windfall for Amma.

Which seats should TN BJP have kept. I hear Salem is one. Any others where they had a chance?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 20 Mar 2014 21:30

RajeshA wrote:
Javee wrote:TN BJP leaders can go screw themselves, I'm seriously disillusioned with this seat sharing. Gave most plum seats in Central and North TN to DMDK.

I see 3-5 seats for the combo, windfall for Amma.
Which seats should TN BJP have kept. I hear Salem is one. Any others where they had a chance?

BJP should have kept Salem and Tiruchirapally, IMO. But all in all, I don't see it as a bad distribution. BJP should use the opportunity to build its own brand. Winning 2-3 seats should be the goal this time. Also, in Sivaganga, BJP can hope for some match fixing from Amma and/or Azhagiri if Chidu contests.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 20 Mar 2014 21:37

Re Trichy, JJ wouldn't like BJP encroaching on her turf, Srirangam, if these two have post poll tieups in mind.

negi · Post by **negi** » 20 Mar 2014 21:51

Chidambaram is not contesting this time ? No recounting this time ?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Mar 2014 22:03

Javee wrote:TN BJP leaders can go screw themselves, I'm seriously disillusioned with this seat sharing. Gave most plum seats in Central and North TN to DMDK.

I see 3-5 seats for the combo, windfall for Amma.

Jayvee, Have patience and look at the larger goal. I posted a TOI article on Pawar's strategy in MH. He chose winning candidates fromw other parties to enure his group gets a say in the govt formation. His supporter very clearly says this is a make or break election. The same clarity is not seen in BJP supporters even here.

And if you are disgusted and want to back of read "Three Men of Destiny" by ASP Iyer about Chanakya, Chandragupta and Alexander. Its in archive.org.

It tells how many compromises Chanakaya made to get Chandragupta to the Magadha throne. And once he became Emperor how he ruled. That is the gist of Arthasashtra as given to us by Chanakya.

The same is there in the Panchatantra and Hitopodesa.

If NDA gets 50 seats from South India its a great factor in forming the government.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Mar 2014 22:05

IndraD wrote:media bashing BJP on differences withing, major opponents saying BJP doesn't respect those who raised the party

IB alert on kidnapping of our leaders for Bhatkal’s release cause for grave concern: BJP

If IM kidnaps any opposition leader, Doggy Singh should be thrown to wolves.
If they kidnap any Congress leader then the negotiations should be dragged out for they are among there own.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 20 Mar 2014 22:09

negi wrote:Chidambaram is not contesting this time ? No recounting this time ?

This time he will ask for a recount if gets his deposit back.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 20 Mar 2014 22:10

ramana wrote: If they kidnap any Congress leader then the negotiations should be dragged out for they are among there own.

My cynicism says that we should offer one Cong. leader free for everyone they kidnap (sort of `Take one, Get one free' scheme), but well, your plan is okay too, I guess.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 Mar 2014 22:14

negi wrote:Chidambaram is not contesting this time ? No recounting this time ?

If he is not running he should visit Hyderabad atleast no that the state has been divided.

KLP Dubey · Post by **KLP Dubey** » 20 Mar 2014 22:18

ramana wrote:
negi wrote:Chidambaram is not contesting this time ? No recounting this time ?
If he is not running he should visit Hyderabad atleast no that the state has been divided.

I heard Chidambaram's piglet Karti has been given the ticket from Shivaganga. If true, a usual case of nepotism and attempt to propagate "mini-dynasties" of different pigs within the INC.

As a result of two decades of illustrious representation by Chidambaram, Shivaganga has received from India Goremint the honor of being included in the "250 most backward districts of India" list. Congrats to the people of the area. They should take more lessons from south TN which is even better developed.

bhargava · Post by **bhargava** » 20 Mar 2014 22:26

member_28173 · Post by **member_28173** » 20 Mar 2014 22:29

Appeaser vs Stronger Appeaser vs Strongest Appeaser[/quote]

+++10000 Now I want Rakhi Sawant type do Nautanki and say Look "Appeaser vs Stronger Appeaser vs Strongest Appeaser"

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 20 Mar 2014 22:30

Here is the latest list from Congress:

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Mar 2014 22:49

certified seckular declares net worth

LS polls: Nilekani, wife declare assets worth Rs 7700 crore

"I started out with Rs 200 in my pocket, when I graduated from IIT; we founded Infosys with Rs 10,000," Nilekani's media team, quoting him, said.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 20 Mar 2014 22:58

Yogendra Yadav, aam admi declared 3+ crore.

I guess now aam admin means declarable assets of worth 3 crores

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 20 Mar 2014 23:04

Yuvraj's rally in Dharamshala