Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism

arun · Post by **arun** » 10 Aug 2011 21:29

Former US Intelligence officials views on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s two timing.

Former Central Intelligence Agency Director Michael Hayden:

"It is clear, it is unarguable, that the Pakistani government, particularly the Pakistani security establishment - the army and the ISI - view the Haqqani network, that's the Taliban group in North Waziristan, [as] more of an - in their calculus they know it's an enemy of the United States, but in their calculus it's dominated by the fact that they believe that the Haqqani network is a friend of Pakistan. And that may be the single most troubling aspect of the relationship: our divergence of views on that particular network,"

Former Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair:

"There were trying, and they still are, to take advantage of the help that they can get from the United States while still thinking, well, maybe the United States won't be here, maybe we have to look out for our own interests, and we need contact with many different groups, both countries and these various terrorist groups. And in addition, they have a tradition of trying to play off these extremist groups against each another."

Read it all:

Former US Intelligence Chiefs: Pakistan Must Stop Playing Both Sides

arun · Post by **arun** » 21 Aug 2011 08:03

anupmisra wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:Pakistani military officers' link with jihadist orgs - a comprehensive MEMRI report
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5587.htm
This report should be saved in BR archives.

The above article by MEMRI regarding the links of personnel of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to Islamic Terrorist groups deserves to be X Posted here.

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Aug 2011 20:03

Teen originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan arrested in the so called “Jihad Jane” Islamic Terrorist plot in the US:

Source: Teen in US custody in 'Jihad Jane' plot

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Aug 2011 06:27

For the record..
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 751365.cms
Somali pirates' Pakistan link confirmed

AHMEDABAD: It is now official: Somali pirates are being trained in Pakistan to carry out a proxy war against India.

Though Indian security agencies had been hinting at a Pakistani link to Somali pirates for long, material evidence to support this assertion has been recently recovered. The evidence was obtained from nine foreign nationals caught from a hijacked Iranian vessel - MV Nafis-1, by the Indian Navy 170 nautical miles off Mumbai on August 14.

The vessel was brought to Porbandar on August 15 and those arrested - five Yemenis, two Tanzanians, one Kenyan and one Somali national - were handed over to Porbandar police for interrogation. Gujarat customs officials had seized a large quantity of food items from the vessel and also found that rice packets and juice pouches bore names of Pakistani companies with addresses written in Urdu.

Gujarat customs officials also recovered two AK-47s, a pistol and a cache of foreign currency including $ 86,000 and 1,500 Saudi Riyals. Officials seized bags full of tea leaves, which customs officials believe, were chewed by the pirates to stay awake.

"On several occasions we seized weapons and magazines from pirates or hijacked ships in Indian waters. These weapons bore the stamp of Pakistani ordnance factories. In this case, the guns have no label but the food items are packed and manufactured in Pakistan. Smugglers are not generally found carrying such a large amount of foreign currency," said a senior customs official.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 27 Aug 2011 06:37

^Lalmullah's CT was spot on.

Pacquis cultivating "non-state" actors to "bleed" the Indian Navy.

arun · Post by **arun** » 01 Sep 2011 18:00

Pakistani fertilizer fuels Afghan bombs

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 02 Sep 2011 20:11

Mother of 9/11 '20th hijacker': I was blind to son's extremism

Moussaoui grew a beard, started to dress in traditional Pakistani clothes and began espousing his brand of militant Islam to others. Moussaoui started to attend London's more radical mosques and was asked to leave the moderate Brixton mosque because of his talks about a jihad, or holy war, against the West.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 03 Sep 2011 00:41

Pakistani man arrested on U.S. terrorism charges

(Reuters) - A Pakistani-born man living in northern Virginia was charged with trying to help a militant group in his home country, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and making false statements to authorities, U.S. prosecutors said on Friday.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 03 Sep 2011 01:07

^^^FBI notice:
http://www.fbi.gov/washingtondc/press-r ... ganization

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 07 Sep 2011 01:40

US Senator Mark Kirk (who took over Barak Obama's seat in the senate) is also a U.S. Naval intelligence officer has returned from a 2 week deployment to Afghanistan. And he has seen enough to reach some conclusions about the Pakisatanis.

Senator Kirk: Stop aid to Pakistan

Following a two-week deployment to Afghanistan, Sen. Mark Kirk, a U.S. Naval intelligence officer, is offering a bold proposal to save the United States money and punish a disloyal ally: Cut off all aid to Pakistan.

Furthermore, Kirk would invite Pakistan’s neighbor/nemesis India to take over the United States’ leadership role in rebuilding Afghanistan after the United States begins pulling out this year.

“I think the United States should tilt toward India,” Kirk said.

Pointing to a map of Afghanistan, the Illinois Republican told the Sun-Times Editorial Board Tuesday that the newest hot spots in the Eastern region around the capital of Kabul are coming under the influence of the “Haqqani network” which is based in Pakistan and protected by the Pakistani government and military.

“As much as the Pakistani officials claim otherwise, the Haqqanis are backed and protected by Pakistan’s own intelligence service,” Kirk said. “Statements by Pakistani government officials to the contrary are lies.”

While the government of Pakistan does cooperate with the United states on “two dozen” captures or killings of Al Quaida officials every year, the Pakistani government’s protection of forces that are killing American troops outweighs the benefits of U.S. support, Kirk argued.

Continued aid to Pakistan is “naive at best, counter-productive at worst,” Kirk said.

“Building schools and hospitals in Tajikistan, which is for us, might help the same number of human beings on the planet,” Kirk said.

arun · Post by **arun** » 08 Sep 2011 08:25

X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

US Senator Mark Kirk’s scathing attack:

Kirk Delivers Address Following Navy Reserve Assignment in Afghanistan

Kirk: Reconsidering Benefit of Aid to Pakistan …………………………..

Tuesday, Sep 6 Afghans are most victimized by their neighbors, the Pakistanis. I first served as a reservist in Afghanistan in 2008. I believed that Pakistan was "complicated," that "we have many interests there" and that we must advance "diplomatically." I no longer agree with that.

Pakistan has become the main threat to Afghanistan. Pakistan's intelligence service is the biggest danger to the Afghan government. It is also a tremendous threat to the lives of American troops. Let me be clear: many Americans died in Afghanistan because of Pakistan's ISI.

As much as the Pakistani officials claim otherwise, the Haqqanis are backed and protected by Pakistan's own intelligence service. Statements by Pakistani government officials to the contrary are direct lies.

The Haqqani network kills Americans, attacks the elected government of Afghanistan and remains protected in its Pakistani headquarters of Miriam Shah. Without that Pakistani safe haven, it would suffer the same fate as Al Qaeda. Afghan and U.S. Special Operations teams take out many Talibancommanders and operators each night but numerous key Haqqani leaders spend all day planning attacks on Americans in Afghanistan -- then sleep soundly in their beds in Pakistan.

In such an environment, and with our deficits and debt, aid to Pakistan seems naive at best and counter-productive at worst. I am seriously reconsidering and rethinking how well aid to Pakistan served us.

Read it all;

Mark Kirk

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 10 Sep 2011 07:26

Brooklyn Man Accused of Seeking to Join Terror Group

A 27-year-old man living in Brooklyn was arraigned in federal court on Friday on charges that he provided material support to terrorists and had been planning to join a radical Islamic group in Pakistan.

The man, Agron Hasbajrami, an Albanian citizen who had been living legally in Brooklyn since 2008, had sent more than $1,000 to a contact in Pakistan over the past year for the purpose of financing terrorist activities abroad, authorities said in a federal detention order unsealed Friday.

Mr. Hasbajrami, had told his contact that he wanted to “marry with the girls in paradise,” a common reference to dying as a martyr while fighting jihad.

Mr. Hasbarjami’s contact told him that he needed to bring enough money for food and a weapon, and had given him instructions for his travel that would take him from Turkey to Iran to Pakistan. But Mr. Hasbajrami said he had to cancel one trip out of Newark Liberty International Airport in August out of suspicion that he might be discovered, according to the detention order, referring to e-mails intercepted by the F.B.I.

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Sep 2011 17:21

Pakistani born Islamic Terrorist Munir Farooqi sentenced in the UK:

Pakistan born ex-taliban fighter gets life sentence in UK

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Sep 2011 08:23

Another three citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan sentenced for indulging in the Islamic Republic’s penchant for indulging in Islamic Terrorism.

AFP via Google:

Three Pakistanis plead guilty to US terror charges

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Sep 2011 19:29

Col Anil Athale in Rediff

Lessons from ten years of GWOT

BRF had forseen this and termed the initiative GOAT Global Offensive on Terror which is also a euphemism for "bakra" or sacrificial goat for US imperial moves.

arun · Post by **arun** » 15 Sep 2011 08:13

U.S. Says Fighters Tied to Pakistan Spy Agency Hit Kabul Embassy

Kabul attackers toted juice, weapons from Pakistan

U.S. Will Defend Itself From Attacks Staged From Pakistan

arun · Post by **arun** » 20 Sep 2011 07:17

arun wrote:Given the BBC has indicated that the arrests are connected to an investigation that “relates to suspected Islamist extremism” this is an appropriate thread to solely post for now.

As for the future, given the predilection of individuals originating in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to indulge in acts of Islamic Terrorism, I expect this story will shortly need to be X posted to the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread:

Seven held in Birmingham anti-terror operation

X Posted from the Islamism thread.

Did not take very long for a link between the Islamic Terrorists arrested in Birmingham and the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to emerge. Turns out that some of the arrested Islamic Terrorists are of Pakistani heritage:

Six arrested in Birmingham counter-terrorism raids

Police feared al-Qaida-inspired plot for attack in Britain which they believe was at an 'advanced stage' of planning

Vikram Dodd and Richard Norton-Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Monday 19 September 2011 14.17 BST …………….

The six men were arrested on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism in the UK. They were aged 25 to 32. All are British citizens and some are believed to be of Pakistani heritage. …………………….

Guardian

arun · Post by **arun** » 21 Sep 2011 21:33

Excerpts from the September 20, 2011 US Department of Defense (DOD) News Briefing with Secretary Panetta and Adm. Mullen from the Pentagon dealing with the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s links, particularly those of the ISI / ISID, to Islamic Terrorists:

Q: After the series of attacks in Kabul, is there any greater U.S. willingness to take unilateral action against the Haqqanis across the border in Pakistan? And if not, what can you do about it?

SEC. PANETTA: Well, I made the point, and I think Mike Mullen has made the same point, that, look, we are going to take whatever steps are necessary to protect our forces. With -- and I’m not going to talk about, you know, particular strategies to, in fact, implement that commitment.

But our biggest concern right now is to put as much pressure as possible on the Pakistanis to exercise control from their side of the border. We’ve continued to state that this cannot happen. We cannot have the Haqqanis coming across the border, attacking our forces, attacking Afghanistan -- Afghanistanis and then disappearing back into a safe haven. That is not tolerable.

And we have urged them to take steps. Mike Mullen met with General Kayani recently to urge that same point. And we’ll continue to do that. I think they’re -- I think they’ve heard the message, but we’ll see.

Q: To go back to -- on the Haqqani, you know, Mr. Secretary, you said that think that the Pakistanis have heard your pleas about what needs to be done inside their borders, and that, Mr. Chairman, you met with Kayani. We’ve heard that for several years now, that we think they’ve heard us, but we want them to do more, and you’ve kept meeting with the general over and over again. Have you been wrong in this strategy of not having a harder fist with them, taking a tougher stand? Is there something else that could have been done that would have made -- have changed this narrative, after all this time?

ADM. MULLEN: I think the substance of the meeting just the other day, as well as the vast majority of meetings that I’ve had with General Kayani, have been to work towards a way that we can sustain the relationship. It’s going to go up and down. We’ve had a very tough patch here over the last several months.

I just -- I would want to reassure you that I addressed this issue very strongly with General Kayani the other night, last Friday night, when I met with him. It was the heart of the discussion, that the Haqqani -- the proxy connection to the ISI, the Haqqanis working across border, killing our people, killing Afghans, has to stop.

That’s not a new message, but it’s one that he clearly understands, and I think it’s one we have to keep reiterating.

All of that said, I think the strength of having met with him so many times is that we have sustained a relationship, you know, when things are going better as well as when things are not going well. And recently they haven’t gone well, but we’ve been able to sustain that and start to move it again in a more positive direction. But the clarity with which I addressed this issue, there just -- there can be no question and no doubt.

SEC. PANETTA: The approach has to be for Pakistan to continue to put pressure on them -- continue to put pressure on them. That’s what we’ve been doing over the last few years. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t work. But the fact is that the most important thing we can do is keep the pressure on. Obviously, they cooperate with us in some areas. There are other areas where we have disagreements.

Very frankly, terrorism is as much a threat for them as it is for us. And we keep telling them, you can’t choose among terrorists. If you’re -- if you’re against terrorism, you have to be against all forms of terrorism. And that’s something we just have to continue to stress.

Read it all:

US DOD Transcript

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 22 Sep 2011 21:57

Testifying to the US Congress today, Mullen and Panetta have some harsh things to say about PakiSatan. Link to a video excerpt:

http://www.izlesene.com/video/mullen-pa ... ks/4772677

arun · Post by **arun** » 23 Sep 2011 07:09

X Posted from the ISI History and Discussions thread.

Chairman of the US Military’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, on the topic of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s intelligence agency supporting Islamic Terrorists in testimony before the US Senate Armed Forces Committtee:

Pakistan’s Spy Agency Is Tied to Attack on U.S. Embassy

By ELISABETH BUMILLER and JANE PERLEZ ……………………..

Published: September 22, 2011 “With ISI support, Haqqani operatives planned and conducted that truck bomb attack, as well as the assault on our embassy,” Admiral Mullen said in a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “We also have credible evidence that they were behind the June 28th attack against the Intercontinental Hotel in Kabul and a host of other smaller but effective operations.”

In short, he said, “the Haqqani network acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence agency.”

Despite the angst ridden comment by Admiral Mullen, expect yet more of the same with regard to relations between the US and the Islamic Republic of Pakistan with the US dhimmifully continuing liberally paying Jaziya to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan

:

“Some may argue I’ve wasted my time, that Pakistan is no closer to us than before, and may now have drifted even further away. I disagree. Military cooperation again is warming.”

Read it all :

Hew York Times

shivajisisodia · Post by **shivajisisodia** » 26 Sep 2011 06:54

http://news.yahoo.com/british-police-6- ... 43891.html

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Another incident of Paki origin Islamic terrorists arrested in England with clear Paki links.

Enjoy !

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 Sep 2011 21:16

^^^ Alleged UK cell charged with terror training in Pakistan

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 Sep 2011 21:39

The Global reach of Islamic Terrorism emanating from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Uighur charged for plotting an attack in Norway targeting the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten that caricatured the Prophet Muhammad, received explosive training where else but in the epicentre of global Mohammadden terrorism, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Charges filed in Norway terror plot

September 27, 2011

OSLO, Norway—A Norwegian prosecutor has filed terror charges against three men accused in an al-Qaida linked plot to attack a Danish newspaper that caricatured the Prophet Muhammad.

Director of Public Prosecutions Tor-Aksel Busch filed an indictment late Monday against Mikael Davud, Shawan Sadek Saeed Bujak and David Jakobsen, who were arrested in July 2010. All three have pleaded innocent…………………….

Davud, a 40-year-old ethnic Uighur from China, was charged with receiving explosives training at an al-Qaida training camp in Pakistan and agreeing to blow up one of several offices of newspaper Jyllands-Posten in Denmark……………………

Boston Globe

Upendra · Post by **Upendra** » 01 Oct 2011 10:15

CONFESSIONS OF A PAKISTANI TERRORIST

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 01 Oct 2011 10:59

Uploaded this video

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 01 Oct 2011 12:52

Now this invader will be passing time in jail, no paki hunger pangs will reach him. After a while serving his time, back to pakiland for promotion.

Where are the human rights people by the way?

Who got blamed in the end with clarity?

Finally, KUDOS to brave armymen. At the end, it is the defense that shines with glory.

Upendra · Post by **Upendra** » 01 Oct 2011 14:32

Gaurav_S wrote:Uploaded this video

Thanks for uploading the video

India must construct a separate jail to imprison these pakistani terrorists

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Oct 2011 11:20

X Posted from the ISI History and Discussions thread.

Pakistani newspaper The News reports that with regard to the assassination of the former President of Afghanistan, Burhanuddin Rabbani, the Interior Minister of Afghanistan is reported as saying that “Without any doubt Pakistan’s ISI hand has been involved,”:

ISI involved in Rabbani killing: Kabul

arun · Post by **arun** » 02 Oct 2011 18:05

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan reinforces its position as the preferred breeding ground for Islamic Terrorism with Afghanistan revealing yet more links of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to the assassination of the former Afghan President Burhanuddin Rabbani.

It now turns out that besides the plot being hatched in Quetta in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the assassin was a Pakistani.

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation:

Rabbani killer was Pakistani: Karzai's office

arun · Post by **arun** » 03 Oct 2011 23:05

X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

It is not without a reason that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is the Worlds only “IEDological Muslim State”

:

Majority of IEDs are traced to Pakistan

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Oct 2011 06:57

X Posted from the TSP thread.

arun wrote:
Dipanker wrote:Karzai 'accuses Pakistan of double game' over militants
Excerpted comment of Afghan President Hamid Karzai on the Islamic Terrorist fomenting ways of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

"Despite all destructions, calamities and problems, faced by both our country and Pakistan, a double-standard game and [the use of] terrorism as a tool continued.

"The Pakistan Islamic government has not co-operated with us to ensure peace and security in Afghanistan, which is disappointing for us."

arun · Post by **arun** » 04 Oct 2011 20:41

arun wrote:X Posted from the ISI History and Discussions thread.

Pakistani newspaper The News reports that with regard to the assassination of the former President of Afghanistan, Burhanuddin Rabbani, the Interior Minister of Afghanistan is reported as saying that “Without any doubt Pakistan’s ISI hand has been involved,”:

ISI involved in Rabbani killing: Kabul

arun wrote:The Islamic Republic of Pakistan reinforces its position as the preferred breeding ground for Islamic Terrorism with Afghanistan revealing yet more links of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to the assassination of the former Afghan President Burhanuddin Rabbani.

It now turns out that besides the plot being hatched in Quetta in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the assassin was a Pakistani.

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation:

Rabbani killer was Pakistani: Karzai's office

X Posted.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan refuses to co-operate in the Afghan investigation into the assassination of the former President of Afghanistan, Burhanuddin Rabbani.

Mohammad Yasin Zia, deputy head of Afghanistan’s National Directorate of Security :

"Today we received a message from the embassy of Pakistan saying that since this issue has arisen in media, we cannot co-operate and we apologize for that,"

Read it all in an AFP generated article in the Vancouver Sun:

Pakistan refuses help in Rabbani probe: Afghanistan

member_19944 · Post by **member_19944** » 05 Oct 2011 04:45

A well bred, well intentioned middle class Pakistani head of a household comes back from work, sits down with a paper and a cup of tea. His kids are doing their homework to one side; on the other in a nicely appointed kitchen his bibi is frying something ...

now the paper .....says Mullen called ISI terrorists; Hillary called Pakistan terrorist; Europe called Pakistan terrorist...even PC called Pakistan terrorist! Karzai warns Pakistan...Imran wanrs Pakistanis...aid cut of....couple of explosions near and far...baloochi movement....sindhi movement...

poor guy! you gotta feel for him...(there has to be a few of those?)

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 05 Oct 2011 11:27

Kasundi wrote:A well bred, well intentioned middle class Pakistani head of a household comes back from work..

He did the same for last 60 years when minorities were butchered, nation looted, wars waged, neighbors ravaged.. now suddenly he finds himself why his country has gone to the dogs. Indeed very weird.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 05 Oct 2011 11:43

>>poor guy! you gotta feel for him...(there has to be a few of those?)

Sure, but very few. Depends on what paper he's reading, how his wife is dressed, what the content of the children's homework is... and most importantly, where he gets his money from, so that he can come home, and sit down with a paper and cup of tea while his wife fries something in the nicely appointed kitchen.

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Oct 2011 21:36

X Posting the Afghan National Security Adviser Dadfar Rangin Spanta’s comment on the role of the ISI and the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in fomenting Islamic Terrorism in Afghanistan:

Dilbu wrote:Haqqani network managed, trained, led by ISI: Afghanistan's national security advisor

After the United States even Afghanistan has accused Pakistani spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) of having direct links with the Haqqani terror network.

Afghanistan's National Security Advisor (NSA) Dadfar R. Spanta told Headlines Today on Wednesday that the Haqqani network was led, managed and trained by the ISI.

Spanta alleged that Pakistan was actively engaged in organising terror attacks in Afghanistan.

"In Pakistan there are a few terror centres active against Afghanistan. Haqqani network is just one. In fact, Haqqani network and ISI are one and... same. It is a group managed, trained and led by ISI," the NSA said.

"Despite the positives of Pakistan, there are sanctuaries and some terror activities and networks that Pakistan is using against Afghanistan," he said.

Talking about Afghanistan's relation with India, Spanta said, "Strategic partnership between India and Afghanistan is a holistic partnership. More intelligence sharing... counter terrorism experience will be shared. India will provide for Afghanistan military training and its police personnel... Our collaboration is for the peace of this region."
Afghans are stepping it up for sure.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 06 Oct 2011 05:04

http://www.npr.org/2011/10/05/140947193 ... -extremism

ATTN: Rangudu, SSridhar, Shiv and others who archive useful media material

Forget the article printed on this webpage. Click on "Listen To The Story" and download the audio file if you can. Listen from about 8 mins 30 sec to 14 mins 45 sec. The really good stuff starts at about 12 mins, before that is useful context.

The interview is with Ken Ballen, a former US Federal Prosecutor who interviewed many terrorists to write a book about their psychology.

In this part of the interview, Ballen says something that's been said on BRF for years but which I've NEVER heard before, expressly stated, in the US media.

"Pakistani state/Pak Govt/TSPA/ISI == Al Qaeda." They ARE the enemy. Bin Laden was a waste of attention, Pakis are and have always been the real danger.

Not "some elements of ISI may have sympathies towards Al-Qaeda" type apologism... he says "they are doing it."

Wish I knew how to get a transcript of this.

arun · Post by **arun** » 07 Oct 2011 08:30

X Posted from the ISI History and Discussions thread.

Former US Defense Secretary Robert Gates is reported by wire service Associated Press as saying at the U.S. Military Academy in West Point that “Pakistan's intelligence agency has ties to a militant group active in neighboring Afghanistan”

What’s with this pattern of US Officials only waxing explicitly about the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s dalliance with Islamic Terrorists at or close to their retirement?

AP via WSJ:

Gates: Pakistan spy agency tied to militant group

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 21 Oct 2011 08:32

People like Khalidi below, do not take to terrorism, because of the Pakistani state - they do it, because, that's what Pakistani society around them, teaches them and imparts to them, as culture...

Unfortunately, what the Schaffers do not realize is that without addressing Pakistani cultural leanings towards terrorism - there's no solution in Afghanistan, Kashmir or increasingly in London.

Two people were indicted in Philadelphia on charges they supported terrorists in the “Jihad Jane” terror plot.

Ali Charaf Damache, 46, an Algerian man who resided in Ireland, and Mohammad Hassan Khalid, 18, a Pakistani citizen residing in Maryland, with one count of conspiring to provide material support to terrorists.

....
According to the indictment, Damache and Khalid helped devise and coordinate a “jihad” organization of men and women from Europe and the U.S. The group was divided into teams for planning, research, action, recruitment and finance, prosecutors said in the statement. Some traveled to South Asia for explosives training and returned to Europe to “wage violent jihad,” prosecutors said. The group allegedly sought women who had passports and the ability to travel to and around Europe.

Same from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15347222

Two 18-year-old men from Cardiff are being questioned by anti-terrorism police in Kenya.

Authorities in Kenya say the pair were arrested while crossing the border into Somalia.

The other man is also a UK citizen, who is of Pakistani descent according to police.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-2 ... -plot.html

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 28 Oct 2011 03:54

Taliban commanders say Pakistan intelligence helps them

"He (Musharraf) banged the table and looked at President Karzai and said, 'Am I president of a banana republic? If not, then how can you tell me bin Laden is hiding in a settled area of Pakistan'.