Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 10 Nov 2012 05:38

TSP -- convert or your daughter is raped

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 10 Nov 2012 05:42

those were just Jalaks

Asli maal agay dekha jaye

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 10 Nov 2012 06:20

krisna wrote:TSP -- convert or your daughter is raped

Dont tell the secular India and Indians where Muslims have the first right on Indian resources. Islam is a religion of peace and Allah is most merciful in sending this final Deen for mankind. Make preparation for next generation of Indians to eliminate this curse on humanity.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 10 Nov 2012 07:12

The following pdf is a must read in the Pakshitan thread as well as the other thread where it was first posted. It basically analyses the three Islamic texts for content and points out that
1. Islam is practised by the content of all three texts
2. The three texts have information that is contradictory so both yes and no can be the correct answer to any question because some text or the other says yes in one place and no in another on that issue

The author of the pdf describes this AC/DC behavior as "dualism"

http://www.cspipublishing.com/statistic ... _Islam.pdf

What this means is that Islam allows Pakistan to behave both secular and Islamic. It also allows Pakistan to behave both moderate and fundamentalist. Islam allows Pakistan to behave both as a nation state with borders as well as a borderless ummah.

What this also means is that Pakistan cannot be treated as a normal nation state. Sometimes one must respect its borders and at other times its borders must be broken down. Sometimes islam must be respected and at other times Islam must be insulted. Sometimes Pakistanis should be treated as humans. At other times they should be treated as refuse.

This is how Pakistan behaves with the rest of the world and this is the only way to treat Pakistan.

As far as treaties like "no war pacts" are concerned - a foul smelling fart on a windy day will survive longer than a treaty with Pakistan. Pakistan will sometimes respect a treaty and at other times reject it. The treatment meted out to Pakistan should reflect the dualism of Islam because Pakistan is an Islamic republic and Islam must be allowed to manifest itself fully in Pakistan. If Pakistan says "Rape a girl whose family does not convert to Islam" we learn about Islam from Pakistan. If Islam says "Kill anyone who disagrees with us" Pakistan teaches us about Islam. The attackers of Mumbai on 26/11 were told by their handlers in Pakistan "Your work is to kill kafirs and Allah will reward you". This too is a lesson about Islam, coming to us from Pakistan.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 10 Nov 2012 07:14

Petraeus just resigned when FBI unearthed his affair with his biographer. He was the proponent of increased drone attacks on Pakistan after seeing their perfidy firsthand.

Manny · Post by **Manny** » 10 Nov 2012 08:46

No war pact with Pakistan? Sheesh! What a bunch of surrender monkeys!

Does anyone even read world history anymore?

Hello! Neville Chamberlain, the peacenik coward of Britania who was equally instrumental in the rise of Hitler.

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/t ... -czech.htm

Shortly after he signed the Munich Agreement in September 1938, Adolf Hitler privately complained to members of his SS bodyguard, "That fellow Chamberlain spoiled my entrance into Prague."

Hitler originally wanted to smash Czechoslovakia via a lighting military strike and then make a Caesar-like entry into the old capital city. But he had been overwhelmed by the eagerness of Britain and France to serve Czechoslovakia to him "on a plate."

For Hitler, the Munich Agreement was nothing more than a worthless piece of paper. On October 21st, just three weeks after signing the document, he informed his generals that they should begin planning for "the liquidation of the remainder of Czechoslovakia."

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 10 Nov 2012 09:01

shiv wrote:I don't think India should attempt to fight Pakistan. In my view India should let Pakistan develop its idea of Islam so the whole world can see what Islam actually means. After that let there be war between Islam a envisioned by Pakistan and everyone else, or a realization that Islam itself needs a change of course.

I agree with you that we should not fight with Pakistan but that doesn't mean we cannot punish them which should be done as and when required, its because we have looked the other way when it was punishing time there are Islamists in Pakistan who think its a holy war against India which they can keep on waging. Their house is already on fire, we just need to make sure their is no dearth of fuel.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 10 Nov 2012 09:03

Reliably learnt that Kerry will replace Clinton - not good news.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 10 Nov 2012 09:06

Anujan wrote:Petraeus just resigned when FBI unearthed his affair with his biographer. He was the proponent of increased drone attacks on Pakistan after seeing their perfidy firsthand.

>>The woman with whom the former CIA director had the affair is Paula Broadwell, according to a person familiar with the matter. She is an author who wrote a biography of Petraeus titled "All In."

per this report

The denial of the link below between his exit and Chris Stevens/Libya incident makes it more probable (IMO)

U.S. officials insisted the CIA's handling of the Benghazi incident had nothing to do with Petraeus' decision to resign.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 10 Nov 2012 09:37

Zardari’s armoured limo for Nitish

The red carpet rolled out for Nitish Kumar is actually a black Mercedes. It is an especially souped-up limo, double-proofed against bullets and bombs, and it is the same vehicle that Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari uses when he comes home to Karachi.

It says at least two things that the Bihar chief minister has been accorded President Zardari’s car. One, that he is being feted at the highest level in this province and provided the utmost care. Two, and probably more important, that Karachi is the most dangerous city in Pakistan. A third could well be a subtle signal to a people who foreground their grumble over the export of terror that Pakistan itself lives a shivered and precarious existence.

Nitish would never have seen so many guns, nor such press of boots and protective metal around him. The downtown five-star hotel where he stays over the next three days is routinely fortified, for Karachi is a tinder-box that blows up every other day.

Just yesterday, suicide bombers rammed an ammo-laden truck into the gates of a paramilitary rangers’ facility, killing three soldiers; elsewhere in Karachi 10 others died in sectarian gun battling.

That’s routine, that’s Karachi, hub of business and bloodshed. But it wouldn’t do to log that and carry casually on when a significant visitor arrives. The hotel that will host Nitish lies especially garrisoned, be-ringed by jawans of all manner of denominations and uniforms, lethal hardware clicking in their palms.

When Nitish arrived at a VIP terminal of the Mohammed Ali Jinnah Airport late evening, more than a score police outriders were lined up in the forecourt, their sirens blaring, their lights dancing like strobes; it was like a highly secured discotheque with nobody on the floor other than taut jawans.

Soon more evidence surfaced of a summit-level reception having been laid out. Instead of a mid-level functionary detailed to conduct formalities at the airport, Sindh chief minister Qaim Ali Shah himself arrived with a tail of seven cabinet colleagues, local chieftains of the ruling Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), the Karachi police boss and several other top officials.

The event went live on several Pakistani channels. “I have been looking forward to this for a long time and I am extremely happy to be here,” Nitish told a jostling bouquet of boom microphones, “Aman, bhaichara aur tarakki dono mulkon ke logon ki pukar hai aur usi silsile mein main aaya hoon (peace, brotherhood and development is the call of people in both countries, that is why I am here).”

While his hosts treated Nitish and his 12-member delegation to tea and savouries in the lounge, a happy commotion unfurled outside. The PPP had tasked cadres to hold up a variety of vinyl posters welcoming the Bihari Wazir-e-Aala; a couple of them had photographs of Nitish and the late Benazir Bhutto morphed in smiling mutual admiration — a trick of technology and politics capturing a moment that never ever happened.

“Benazir Bhutto Zindabad! Zindabad, Zindabad!!” they shouted, never mind the other face on the posters they held aloft they barely even knew to pronounce his name.

Nitish’s name was not germane to their purposes, he is what his symbolism is. In a city like Karachi, which probably has the highest concentration of people of Bihari origin in Pakistan, a visitor from Patna matters.

The PPP has good reason to make a spectacle of greeting Nitish. It is not just that he is a Bihari leader arriving in Pakistan’s most Bihari city. It is also a showcasing of Pakistan’s effort to expand interaction with India and Indians beyond New Delhi and the foreign office-home ministry complex. General elections are only a few months away and the PPP is in need of talking points — pushing peace with India, despite the acrimonious detritus of 26/11, could be one of them.

But there could be another reason why Nitish has been picked for salutation by the PPP, which heads the government both here and in Islamabad. Nitish has come to be seen as a development icon in a country where the development deficit is severe.

“This could well be the PPP’s way of telling the people that they are keen on giving development a fillip,” said a member of chief minister Qaim Ali Shah’s welcome group as tea was being served around.

“India has so many chief ministers, why only him? Because he has got notice in Pakistan and someone who has managed a turnaround in a backward state like Bihar. That has value, to people in Bihar, of course, but to people here too. He is a man we can learn from.”

It’s best left to the coming days to get a sense of what Nitish might learn from Karachi. It cannot escape him this is a far more insecure and hazardous place than the worst of Bihar ever was. That sense would have accosted him stepping into that hotel for his first night in Pakistan.

Behind the clusters of jawans scudding the lobby, he would have noticed unpacked on the floors the promotion of a formidable arms bazaar — menacing fighter-jets, sleek gunships, multi-barrel artillery launchers, commando warfare suits.

Pakistan’s biggest international defenceware exposition has opened and Nitish’s hotel is its PR headquarters. Good thing he arrived in Zardari’s armoured limousine.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 10 Nov 2012 12:02

Apologies if this has been discussed already (if it has I'd appreciate a link).

All this pappi jhappi between our political elite has set me wondering (no offence to Nitish Kumar who by all accounts is that rarity- a dynamic, upright politician). How vulnerable is our leadership to being suborned by ISI through the usual baits (money/ women), especially if it is a false flag op? I have heard rumblings of how deeply the Indian political class was penetrated by USSR back in the day.

I have no doubt that our agencies have taken this into account, and indeed have considered using it in reverse (or have already used it) Pakistani politicians, but given the venial and grasping nature of our political elite, what is a possibility and impact of a Headley/ Bhatt type of relationship in the Indian political arena?

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 10 Nov 2012 12:47

Bihar is developing not because of Nitish. It because of its people.
There had been massive migration of people from Bihar to other states during Lalu era. That is now getting paid off. Starting with low level building works the workers are now skilled building workers at every level. For e.g. In Gujarat the only people who know how to do good pop finish on the ceiling comes from Bihar. Local Gujarati's charge too high for work or are not interested in doing it while skilled workers from Bihar does it quite nicely and have even started building companies in most big and small cities of Gujarat through sheer hardworking nature and honing the skills overtime in the process.
They deserve respect for that. People after a decade or two or hardworking have started sending larger volumes of money back to Bihar to develop it and help family at home which is a good thing.
Nitish is just reaping the benefit of this throwing some good policies around and reducing corruption a bit.
with all good apples there are few bad apples which come along and it is states responsibility to deal with criminals effectively. 99% of hardworking people who are out there to make in the world should not be criminalised as what raj Thackeray and ilks does in Mumbai.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 10 Nov 2012 12:48

Anujan wrote:Petraeus just resigned when FBI unearthed his affair with his biographer. He was the proponent of increased drone attacks on Pakistan after seeing their perfidy firsthand.

Why would the FBI be interested in whom this guy was bonking??

More to this than meets the eye.

partha · Post by **partha** » 10 Nov 2012 12:51

^
It was discovered accidentally by the FBI during an investigation regarding possible security compromise of the laptop used by Petraeus. Considering he was the head of CIA, a sensitive position, why do you think FBI will NOT be interested in his weaknesses?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 10 Nov 2012 13:04

ashish raval wrote:Bihar is developing not because of Nitish. It because of its people.

OT but,
Nitish has done litte wonders in Bihar.
Was talking to some folks from that place. Roads are much much improved, down to small villages.
The goonda-gardi that was omnipresent during laloo's reign has been controlled it would seem

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 10 Nov 2012 13:05

Pgbhat, Satya_anveshi
Shukriya janaab's. Back after a long hibernation.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 10 Nov 2012 13:11

partha wrote:^
It was discovered accidentally by the FBI during an investigation regarding possible security compromise of the laptop used by Petraeus. Considering he was the head of CIA, a sensitive position, why do you think FBI will NOT be interested in his weaknesses?

Senior level recreational bonking is wide spread in the US as every where else. In this sense it is unremarkable.

I accept your POV regarding sensitive position. This is not the way to treat the Head of the CIA. There has to be something else. Just have to wait and see. Power struggle?

He seems to have been eased out with not a lot of finesse.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 10 Nov 2012 13:14

John Kerry becoming Secretary of state might not change things for pakistan.
The way ombaba has gone about talking about the 2014 deadline during this election cycle, means the drawdown is set in stone.
This makes the US desperate for success - at any cost.
Pakistan wants to keep the taliban and its terrorists intact to takeover kabul after 2014. (I suspect the Pakistanis will succeed).
This puts massa and kiyani & crore commanders in a direct confrontation path.

The only thing one needs to watch out for is the GOTUS going about implementing the 'farmaan' of the POTUS in a hurry, and at all costs. They will tend to mess things up.
India needs to watch US-taliban, US-Pakistan talks carefully

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 10 Nov 2012 13:37

Why phor every one is linking Petraeus exit to the US ambassador to Libya's end ?
His rape and murder could be the result of entirely different dynamics and operational "botch up" by CIA is the least likely of causes.

Petraeus exit is IMO more the result of Om baba's reelection.
There were lot of disagreements/differences between Om baba and Petraeus (a few of them openly expressed back in 2008-10) - till they were seemingly resolved. But as Ombaba has renewed his mandate - it makes sense to call for Petraeus to step down.

FBI - whose role is akin to Praetorian guard in american establishment is firmly behind om baba and its investigation into another "unrelated" case turning up extramarital muck on Petraeus is a laughably daft excuse - so its meant to make it clear to all in american establishment that Petraeus has reaped the fruits of his past shenanigans with POTUS and his manner of exit is ombaba making an example (albeit a mild one) of him.

So what does all this mean for Paki drone war ?
I think the locus of control will now shift more towards State dept...

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 10 Nov 2012 13:50

Vipul wrote:
You are looking for too many reasons why Murkh Mohan Singh is entering into a No War pact when the answer is obvious plain and simple. Only Cowards need a reason to hide behind an agreement to escape from taking a decision to wage a rightful war.

Even cowards need ways and means to override the many institutional checks and balances meant to protect India against a coward in high positions (assuming one reaches there)

arun · Post by **arun** » 10 Nov 2012 14:12

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe haven for the Mohammadden’s of the Indian Sub-Continent, notwithstanding proclamations of Mohammaddenism being “the religion of peace”, Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden violence is seen yet again on the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday.

What is it about Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday that causes the day to see not infrequent demonstrations of the IEDology of Pakistan, that too in a Mohammadden place of worship? :

Dera Bugti mosque bombing: PML-Q lawmaker survives attempt on his life

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 10 Nov 2012 19:08

Once upon a time India that is Bharat signed Panchasheel (pancha means five)
Treaty / agreement and one of the signator gave five fingered Jhapad on the face and another five fingered on the back side to Bharat, yet we have not learned.

We as Bharat vasi are very bad students of history , this has been for the last 1212 years.

Jish desh may Ganga behi it hai

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 10 Nov 2012 21:43

Vipul wrote:
You are looking for too many reasons why Murkh Mohan Singh is entering into a No War pact when the answer is obvious plain and simple. Only Cowards need a reason to hide behind an agreement to escape from taking a decision to wage a rightful war.

You have not been reading my posts

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I don't know whether MMS is a coward or not, I am leaning towards his not being one, recall, how quickly he pounces on "Hindu terrorism". Also recall the raid on Baba Ramdev including women and children.

That said, I would not explain his TSP policy through the lens of cowardice. I told you many times, and I've learnt this through deep reflection, and also talking to many Americans and NR"I"s. He does not see TSP terrorism in the same vein as an Indian would, forget us jingos on BR. He does not see TSP's use of terror as an instrument of state policy as an evil that is simply unacceptable, and draw a Lakshman Rekha before doing any business with TSP until that evil is addressed.

He sees TSP terror as part of the entire gamut of issues plaguing India domestically and TSP too. This is a colonial worldview. In other words, with all of of its pitfalls, often attributed to Hinduism including everybody's favorite stick to beat Hindus with: caste; in this worldview, TSP sponsored Islamic terror is not unadulterated evil in the manner in which Al Queda terrorism against whites is the gold standard of evil. When you look at India and TSP from this vantage point, MMS's actions will be a reasonable natural corollary. I mean think about it, how much Indianness does MMS have in him when he can brazenly declare with pride that no Indian Muslim is part of Al Queda? In this definition of evil, Indian Muslims being part of LET is not evil enough. Al Queda is the western-scripted gold standard of Islamic terror which MMS has internalized.

I know if wishes were horses, beggars would ride, but I wish for an Indian PM who can self confidently stand up and declare that yes, India is plagued by a lot of ills, but they are issues internal to India, but make no mistake about it, TSP terror is unadulterated evil, and obliterating that is non negotiable from India's POV. In other words, I would like an Indian PM to be like US president who will dare not draw any equivalence between KKK, tea party extremists, Bible-thumping gun toting zealots etc and hard core Islamists.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 10 Nov 2012 21:57

MMS and Chidambram are very brave patriotic leaders
Proof
How quickly they dispersed the immense threat of Baba Ramdev meeting in the wee hours by lathi charge as the nation was about to face a grave danger to its territorial integrity?

Notice how compassionate the same dynamic duo are when the SMS about the minorities took to streets and defaced the Amar Jawan memorial like this

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 10 Nov 2012 22:31

Sagar G wrote:quote="shiv"]I don't think India should attempt to fight Pakistan. In my view India should let Pakistan develop its idea of Islam so the whole world can see what Islam actually means. After that let there be war between Islam a envisioned by Pakistan and everyone else, or a realization that Islam itself needs a change of course.

After all these years Doc have understood the gist of the issue. Pakistan must be a symbol of true Islam and Islam 's second name. Being weak inbred Paedostani wont fight straight war but try to use deception and treachery as per their religious upbringing. This is where Chanakya provides the antidote. As far as Laathi part is concerned, we are capable of inserting in one end of them to take it out from the other end and they know it.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 10 Nov 2012 23:10

Gagan saab: welcome onlee.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 10 Nov 2012 23:26

Gaganullah where have you been sir? welcome back

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 11 Nov 2012 02:00

http://dawn.com/2012/11/10/karachi-viol ... ore-lives/
Five students among 15 killed in Karachi shootings
IED Har Friday Ko Hotta Hai,
Kutta Bhi Yahan Pei Rotta Hai
Insaniat Ki Naa Zarroorat Inko
Religion Sey Guzarra Hotta Hai!!
Pakistani uss Desh kei Waasi Hai
Jiss Moolq Mei Incest Hotti Hai !!

KARACHI: At least fifteen people died and several injured on Saturday as the menace of targeted killings continues to spread havoc in Karachi, DawnNews reported.In Gulshan-i-Iqbal block 2, unidentified gunmen opened fie at a local tea restaurant killing five and injuring two people. Four of the deceased were identified as Abdul Khailq, Imran, Shamsur Rehman and Abdullah.
The incident took place near a seminary of Deobandi Sunni sect where the students had gathered for some refreshments. The school is for pupils aged 18-22.“The unidentified gunmen on motorcycles specifically targeted the students of a nearby religious seminary and escaped after the shooting,” Shahid Hayat, a senior police official told AFP.“The initial investigations reveal that the killings were part of the ongoing wave of target killing in the city,” he said referring to Karachi’s sectarian, political and ethnic violence which have killed at least 1,100 people this year.
Another local police official Mohammad Hafeez told AFP that police were looking into why the students of this particular seminary were targeted.In North Nazimabad, near Saifi College, three people lost their lives when an unidentified gunman opened fire at them. The bodies were shifted to Abbasi Shaheed Hospital later.Meanwhile, three people were killed in two different incidents in Korangi area.
Earlier, in Old Golimar’s locality of Pak Colony, four people were shot dead when unknown gunmen opened fire on them near the Rexer Bridge area.Subsequently, police and rescue teams reached the site and transferred the bodies to Civil Hospital.Police said the killing was the result of a personal dispute and the deceased were involved in gang warfare.In a separate incident, a man was gunned down in the Jumma Goth area of Korangi.Moreover, funeral prayer of Saeed Haider was offered at Rizvia Imam Bargah. Haider was targeted killed on Friday– DawnNews/AFP

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 11 Nov 2012 02:23

chetak wrote:
partha wrote:^
It was discovered accidentally by the FBI during an investigation regarding possible security compromise of the laptop used by Petraeus. Considering he was the head of CIA, a sensitive position, why do you think FBI will NOT be interested in his weaknesses?
Senior level recreational bonking is wide spread in the US as every where else. In this sense it is unremarkable.

I accept your POV regarding sensitive position. This is not the way to treat the Head of the CIA. There has to be something else. Just have to wait and see. Power struggle?

He seems to have been eased out with not a lot of finesse.

Siya-head, the decorated jarnail is a prorepublican guy. Possibly, during the
closed-door hearing, he might have spilled the beans which could have made the current admin uncomfortable. His affair with the lady mil intel officer came to light several days ago, but ombaba kept it under wrap due to nirvaachan. as soon as the nirvaachan was over, he was confronted about the affair and made the fall guy.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 11 Nov 2012 03:13

chetak wrote:
Anujan wrote:Petraeus just resigned when FBI unearthed his affair with his biographer. He was the proponent of increased drone attacks on Pakistan after seeing their perfidy firsthand.
Why would the FBI be interested in whom this guy was bonking??

More to this than meets the eye.

Of course the FBI could be interested, in case the person he was bonking was a Chinese spy or something. However, the very fact that he was bonking someone outside his marriage is cause for interest, regardless of who the person is. An extramarital affair is cause for an average joe/jill working at a sensitive government facility to lose his/her security clearance and thereby his/her job. This rule applies to everyone from the janitor to the head of the CIA. That's because if someone finds out about the affair, they can threaten to reveal it and coax the person into doing something. Heck, the CIA has a policy where they won't even hire a person if they find out that the person had an extramarital affair, because of the possibility of blackmail.

I wouldn't read too much into conspiracy theory. For one thing, Gen. Petraeus is still free to talk to the press and testify to congress and so forth. This resignation doesn't change any of that at all.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 11 Nov 2012 03:15

shiv wrote: 1. Islam is practised by the content of all three texts
2. The three texts have information that is contradictory so both yes and no can be the correct answer to any question because some text or the other says yes in one place and no in another on that issue

The author of the pdf describes this AC/DC behavior as "dualism"

http://www.cspipublishing.com/statistic ... _Islam.pdf

What this means is that Islam allows Pakistan to behave both secular and Islamic. It also allows Pakistan to behave both moderate and fundamentalist. Islam allows Pakistan to behave both as a nation state with borders as well as a borderless ummah.

What this also means is that Pakistan cannot be treated as a normal nation state. Sometimes one must respect its borders and at other times its borders must be broken down. Sometimes islam must be respected and at other times Islam must be insulted. Sometimes Pakistanis should be treated as humans. At other times they should be treated as refuse.

This is how Pakistan behaves with the rest of the world and this is the only way to treat Pakistan.

I think this is a great article that can explain away the condrum of Paki Islamic behavoir. These are the loud mouths constantly trumpeting the 'glory' of Islam, more than any other staunchly muslim country in the Gulf. This duality explains away the following apparent contradictions in the minds of kaffirs:

1. Islam is a religion of peace: the words kill, behead, bomb, stoning, elligible for being killed all mean 'peace'
2. Islam is the most tolerant religion: murtads, blasphemers, kaffirs, gays and other non conformists must be put to death.
3. Killing of even one innocent is like killing all mankind: It is ok to plant IEDs, bombs, contemplate using weapons of mass destruction.
4. Islam is a complete set of code for all times: modern gadgets like television, music players must be shunned, women must be deprived of anything that has a remote hint of pleasure. Democracy is incompatible with Islam.
5. Islam provides the most rights to women: they are not supposed to drive, seek education, work in jobs that may have male interaction, marry according to their wishes or leave home without a male chaperon.
6. Prophet is the only man given to human kind who is infallible: never mind inexplicable contradictions in the holy book, or the age of Ayesha and the age difference at the time of marriage.
7. Sense of superiority: despite being a beggar state, having delusions of grandeur of taking on states with orders of magnitude superior GDP and military capability.
8. Bad mouthing benefactors like USA, Canada and other Western countries, while at the same time shamelessly queing up to get visas to these countries and demanding barbaric laws to be applied.
9. Hero worshipping plunderers and rapists forefathers and loathing the ancestry of their other half of the bloodline.
10. There is no compulsion in religion: Islam was spread through peaceful means, however it is ok to destroy darghas, tombs, Ahmedi places of worship, deface Quranic scriptures on Ahmedi mosques, destroy their minarets. Also it is prohibited to preach any other religion in an attempt to convert them from their Islamic faith.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 11 Nov 2012 07:49

by Krisna
TSP -- convert or your daughter is raped

Krisna that should be your Dharma to save the Dharmic girls from the Adharmic land as told by Sri Krishna!!

A single Arabian Christian Reverend can do while 500 million Hindus (who have no will to fight) next door watch? Isn't that cowardice?

habal · Post by **habal** » 11 Nov 2012 11:40

Check out what happens @ 0.33 and suggest if this needs to be included in benis.

maqsoos andaaz mein isteqbal kiya .. ha ha

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Nov 2012 12:49

Another 20 gunned down in Karachi

In the deadliest episode of the day, six students of a seminary were gunned down in an armed attack on a roadside tea shop in Gulshan-i-Iqbal. Police said students of Madressah Ahsan-ul-Uloom — all in their early 20s — were targeted by at least six men. Seven other students suffered injuries.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 11 Nov 2012 13:00

There is an online petition to award malala this years nobel peace price. My fourth cousin and his camel signed it and is in strong support of that idea.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 11 Nov 2012 15:25

From Dawn:
Pakistani Taliban claim responsibility of Rangers HQ blast in Karachi

KARACHI: Pakistani Taliban claimed the responsibility of a high-intensity blast targeting the Rangers Headquarters in Karachi’s North Nazimabad area early Thursday.

Tehreek-i-Taliban (TTP) Spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said that they have more targets on their list and those who would raise voices against them, the Taliban would target them.

He said that the Pakistani Taliban have their network in the country and would operate from wherever they wanted from.

According to media reports, a truck slammed into one of the entrances of the Rangers compound killing one person and leaving more than a dozen, including civilians, injured.
....

kish · Post by **kish** » 11 Nov 2012 16:02

SSridhar wrote:Another 20 gunned down in Karachi
In the deadliest episode of the day, six students of a seminary were gunned down in an armed attack on a roadside tea shop in Gulshan-i-Iqbal. Police said students of Madressah Ahsan-ul-Uloom — all in their early 20s — were targeted by at least six men. Seven other students suffered injuries.

SSji, is this 13 different from that 20?

Muslims who claimed, they couldn't co-exist with majority Hindus are enjoying unrelenting peace in Land of pure.

[url=htttp://www.sananews.net/english/13-more-killed ... -violence/]13 more killed in Karachi violence[/url]

kish · Post by **kish** » 11 Nov 2012 16:16

[url=htttp://www.thenews.com.pk/article-75050-Eight- ... -violence-]Eight killed in Karachi violence[/url]

Eight people have been killed in different incidents of violence on Sunday across the metropolis.

A father and son were gunned down in by unknown men in Orangi Town.

(Father and son enjoyed peace together)

Earlier in a firing incident at FC Area in Liaquatabad, one person was killed and five were injured including the murdered Intelligence Bureau Officer Qamar Raza’s son Asad Raza, who later succumbed to his injuries.

Speaking to Geo News IG Sindh Fayyaz Legahri said the sectarian strife was being increased in the city ahead of Muharram. Commenting on the situation in Soharb Goth, Legahri said there was a clash between two groups there and a heavy contingent of Police and Rangers had been sent to the area.

Let Arrah bless pakis with more peace during moharram.

kish · Post by **kish** » 11 Nov 2012 16:30

[url=htttp://dawn.com/2012/11/11/not-a-bad-idea/]Not a bad idea[/url]

In a country so beset with violence, Punjab games are not a bad idea. They caught the imagination of the youth towards not to destroy and kill but to build and respect life

For this to happen, they have to leave "I' slam".

The Punjab games are certainly not the flute and Mian Shahbaz Sharif is certainly not a Nero. However, there is one small exception the games will enter Moharram by a few days

Excited to see the words 'games' & 'moharram' in the same line. Let this year's 'moharram games' be biggest ever.

As the 44th President, his first term in office will be regarded as the most colorless, odourless and tasteless President the Americans have had. To his three qualities must be added another clueless. He played everything as if it was game of baseball. He assumed that every ball was baseless and he considered baseball was his own game. That being so he started the game of baseball in Pakistan. Here the ball was not a ball at all but a drone aircraft under rules of the game that were personally his own

Re-election of Obama has caused heart ache in pakistan. Most pakistanis paying glowing tribute to 44th U.S President.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Nov 2012 17:44

kish wrote: SSji, is this 13 different from that 20?
[url=htttp://www.sananews.net/english/13-more-killed ... -violence/]13 more killed in Karachi violence[/url]

The 20 is the scorecard for Saturday, 25 Dhu al-Hijjah 1433 A.H.