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Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 12:01
by vimal
Seems like Justinder’s cabinet is filled with people with rough knees

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 12:13
by drnayar
krithivas wrote: 04 Oct 2023 10:55 ^^^ The Canadian FM is the equivalent of Hina Rabbani Khar? Zero substance, and attempting to bank on looks? Like the chief idiot Justinder?
Apparently justinders girlfriend :((

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 14:16
by Cyrano
ramana wrote: 04 Oct 2023 10:25
morem wrote: 04 Oct 2023 01:12 self-proclaimed expert. Stopped following him when i saw him insult / diss jamwal on Twitter.
Wow. We need to support our own.
Have watched a couple of Aadi's podcasts, him speaking alone and with some very credible guests. So far havent found anything silly or objectionable. He may not be a revelation but doesn't seem to be an idiot either. Could have been a misunderstanding with jamwal Saab (I dont know what that tiff was about).

We need more and more pro Bharat podcasters to counter the BiF noise.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 15:43
by drnayar
Surveillance of Indian Diplomats in Canada Led to Sikh Killing Allegations, Official Says


https://www.bloomberg.com/en/news/th ... ut=true

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 16:58
by Cyrano
^^^Can't access Saar, needs registration

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 17:02
by Anoop.G
Here is the archive link:

https://archive.li/PzK8V

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 17:13
by sanman
krithivas wrote: 04 Oct 2023 10:55 ^^^ The Canadian FM is the equivalent of Hina Rabbani Khar? Zero substance, and attempting to bank on looks? Like the chief idiot Justinder?
She is the daughter of a father who was a loyalist to Justin's own father, Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau.

Remember, Pappu Justin only got his job because of daddy's name, just like our own Pappu wants to.

So with the family name comes the family loyalists and coat-tail riders (that's why monarchy is the oldest and most enduring form of govt in the world)

That's why she in turn has gotten the FM job, because of her daddy's loyal service to Justin's daddy.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 17:26
by Cyrano
Anoop.G wrote: 04 Oct 2023 17:02 Here is the archive link:

https://archive.li/PzK8V
Arre bhai is mey naya kya hai? Bloomberg click baiting titles...

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 17:33
by NRao

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 17:40
by srin
So, they accuse us of the killing, and yet they want us to co-operate
They accuse us publicly and want to handle this diplomatically

Most important, they shelter and aid the terrorists and elements that want to break up India, and they expect us to not do anything.

What are they smoking ?

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 18:03
by A_Gupta
2019 story of when Ripudaman Singh Malik visited India.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 466497.cms

Added later:
Sukh Dhaliwal, 2008, wrote an official letter supporting a gangster.
https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blo ... l-thinking

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 18:11
by anmol


Rogue intelligence officers leaking info to embarrass Trudeau: Andrew Mitrovica on India-Canada row
4 Oct 2023
It's likely that there is tension between Canada's security intelligence apparatus and its politicians over whether to share 'evidence' of Sikh separatist Hardeep Singh Nijjar's killing, says Andrew Mitrovica, award-winning investigative journalist based in Toronto. He is also the author of 'Covert Entry: Spies, Lies and Crimes Inside Canada's Secret Service', professor at Sheridan College and a columnist for Al Jazeera. Watch his interview with ThePrint's Pia Krishnankutty

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 18:32
by Pratyush
Anmol,

This story is pure BS.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 18:56
by JTull
Very well researched article!

The Many Layers of the Canada-India Diplomatic Dispute
BY Ramesh Thakur
*Brownstone Institute*

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 19:06
by chetak
srin wrote: 04 Oct 2023 17:40 So, they accuse us of the killing, and yet they want us to co-operate
They accuse us publicly and want to handle this diplomatically

Most important, they shelter and aid the terrorists and elements that want to break up India, and they expect us to not do anything.

What are they smoking ?

WA

here is a forward that I received


srin ji,

canada essentially wants India to admit to murder on foreign soil based on nothing more than a 'trust me bro'

Meanwhile, the report by Financial Times indicated that India though rejected the claims, didn’t completely deny its involvement in the case. “India did not admit involvement in the murder but did not deny the claim, according to people familiar with the meetings. The Indian government said it had rejected the allegations,” the report quoted. Apparently, the french speaking canucks have serious difficulty in understanding Jaishankar, when he very specifically said: ("this is not our policy"). Exactly how much more clarity did these dumb canucks expect from India's very articulate Foreign Minister

The trudeau govt is so naïve as to think they can push around India to agree to canada without actionable evidence. It is canada which has escalated this matter by making public allegations, so it is canada which needs to de-escalate now. It is so funny to hear their foreign minister saying they are silently working on this now, by seeking "private talks", especially after making public their preposterous allegations.

The accusation really was just the last straw that broke the camel's back.

There were already a ton of issues with canada since the 80s - molycoddling terrorists, allowing the Air India bombing, and letting the bombers get away, etc

India has been very patient with canada, but patience also has its limits.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 19:20
by chetak
JTull wrote: 04 Oct 2023 18:56 Very well researched article!

The Many Layers of the Canada-India Diplomatic Dispute
BY Ramesh Thakur *Brownstone Institute*

JTull ji,

An excellent find.

Many thanks.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 19:21
by drnayar
Cyrano wrote: 04 Oct 2023 17:26
Anoop.G wrote: 04 Oct 2023 17:02 Here is the archive link:

https://archive.li/PzK8V
Arre bhai is mey naya kya hai? Bloomberg click baiting titles...
some rona dhona.. modi not listening ?!!..

Anyway my take is China is orchestrating and manipulating the Canadian "intelligence" to contain india's influence following the G20 summit.

look at who stands to gain the most .

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 19:31
by chetak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG6SOXpzoSo


Jaishankar Jabs U.S.; Scolds Trudeau For Harbouring Khalistan Terrorists | 'Toxic, Secessionist'





India openly blasts Canada in their backyard as the U.S. remains silent on safe haven for Khalistan terrorists in its neighbouring nation.

Speaking at an event in Washington, D.C., Jaishankar said that for the U.S., Canada might look different, but for us, we have a very toxic combination of issues.

Watch this video to learn what Jaishankar said.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 19:38
by williams
drnayar wrote: 04 Oct 2023 19:21
Cyrano wrote: 04 Oct 2023 17:26

Arre bhai is mey naya kya hai? Bloomberg click baiting titles...
some rona dhona.. modi not listening ?!!..

Anyway my take is China is orchestrating and manipulating the Canadian "intelligence" to contain india's influence following the G20 summit.

look at who stands to gain the most .
Not sure. We have really seen a display of Indian influence for the past 2 weeks where Canada is really isolated and India is continuing to escalate to a point where Canadians are completely cornered. Frankly, even Pakis got better support than this.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 21:11
by sanjayc
Looks like Xmas presents arrived early from Canadian embassy for some Indian journalists

Enough of Canada-bashing, already
https://thefederal.com/category/opinion ... eady-96588

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 21:22
by Cyrano
chetak wrote: 04 Oct 2023 19:20
JTull wrote: 04 Oct 2023 18:56 Very well researched article!

The Many Layers of the Canada-India Diplomatic Dispute
BY Ramesh Thakur *Brownstone Institute*

JTull ji,

An excellent find.

Many thanks.
Except for this:
I have previously criticised India’s growing democratic deficit on Modi’s watch, decried efforts to erode Muslims’ equality of Indian citizenship, and warned of the danger of turning India into a Hindu Pakistan.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 21:47
by chetak
Cyrano wrote: 04 Oct 2023 21:22
chetak wrote: 04 Oct 2023 19:20


JTull ji,

An excellent find.

Many thanks.
Except for this:
I have previously criticised India’s growing democratic deficit on Modi’s watch, decried efforts to erode Muslims’ equality of Indian citizenship, and warned of the danger of turning India into a Hindu Pakistan.


Cyrano ji,

One sees your point.

but the congis did worse and pappu is a living example of what the future holds for India if the BIF succeed.

No one ever criticized them or are criticizing pappu now

The mainstream media has never said a word against the NAC, not then, and not even now.

The venal communal violence bill is just an "imaginary" wisp of smoke today, as though it was never contemplated or even drafted

what was so democratic about the RTE, govt control over the Hindu temples and many other communal things targeting the majority that the congis did since 1947

But the wokerati covered it all up and no one calls them out today for their excesses against the majority.

The BIF banks on us to forget. Whom will we blame...... them or ourselves...

But what gets their goat every time is that Modi is actually democratic, as democratic as they come and even the goras know it

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 21:58
by Lisa
Duplicated post

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 22:11
by yensoy
Cyrano wrote: 04 Oct 2023 17:26
Anoop.G wrote: 04 Oct 2023 17:02 Here is the archive link:
https://archive.li/PzK8V
Arre bhai is mey naya kya hai? Bloomberg click baiting titles...
Exactly. This article is from the 21st of September and we haven't heard anything about this since.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 23:07
by vera_k
chetak wrote: 04 Oct 2023 21:47 what was so democratic about the RTE, govt control over the Hindu temples and many other communal things targeting the majority that the congis did since 1947
My favorite example here is the First Amendment. It works well with American audiences, since while the US First Amendment guarantees free speech, the Indian First Amendment restricts freedom of expression. Frankly any article that mentions democratic backsliding in India without referencing the first amendment is just so much toilet paper.

How SP Mookerjee took on Nehru in one of the fiercest & finest parliamentary duels in India

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 23:31
by drnayar
The Canadian government, armed with one of the world's most repressive online censorship schemes, announces that all "online streaming services that offer podcasts" must formally register with the government to permit regulatory controls



https://thepostmillennial.com/elon-musk ... -in-canada

X owner Elon Musk took to his own platform on Sunday to blast Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Liberal-controlled government over its efforts to control and censor the free expression of the people.

"Trudeau is trying to crush free speech in Canada," Musk posted on X. "Shameful."

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 23:36
by drnayar
in context !

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/03/medi ... index.html

Homes of journalists at India news site critical of government raided, fueling press freedom fears

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... kward-spot

India’s latest media crackdown puts the US in an awkward position as it seeks to balance promotion of human rights :((

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 23:40
by Cyrano
They can save their energies and save all that and more next door in Turdeaustan

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 23:48
by A_Gupta
The issue with NewsClick is not that it publishes Chinese propaganda, but that it illegally accepts foreign funding. I believe there are laws such that if NewsClick declared its foreign funding, as a declared foreign agent, it would be able to continue publishing whatever it wanted.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 04 Oct 2023 23:51
by williams
drnayar wrote: 04 Oct 2023 23:36 https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/03/medi ... index.html

Homes of journalists at India news site critical of government raided, fueling press freedom fears

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... kward-spot

India’s latest media crackdown puts the US in an awkward position as it seeks to balance promotion of human rights :((
International liberal media talks to Indian liberal media and both don't like Modi govt period. Both of them have a lot of Chinese influence and therefore will never like a strong right-leaning government in India. Every US and Indian foreign policy mandarin knows about this, but Modi has dangled enough sops to manage the relationship. US SD folks have tried their max to sabotage it. You'll have to work through this if you want to dance with the devil. But dancing with the devil is better than dancing with the Chinese who have eaten up our territory and arming our enemy. But Canada is small change and needs to get 5th grader treatment and that is exactly what GoI is doing.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 02:00
by ragupta
https://x.com/vijaygajera/status/170912 ... 12269?s=20

Watch this video to understand about the cartel of NewsClick, Abhishar Sharma, Teesta Setalvad, and many others who were raided by Delhi Police this morning.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 02:10
by drnayar

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 02:17
by drnayar


Social media training for public personalities in China... oh its Kanada :rotfl:

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 04:45
by NRao
Interesting.

However, the solution, I think, is simple. Reset the "nation" under settings to some other than "Canada".


Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 06:46
by sanman

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 07:07
by sudarshan
drnayar wrote: 05 Oct 2023 02:17

Social media training for public personalities in China... oh its Kanada :rotfl:
You beat me to this.

What I found most interesting was the use of the word "re-education." The Chinese influence is strong on this one. Canada will soon open re-education camps in the Yukon and harvest organs as well, looks like.

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 07:29
by NRao
FYI


Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 07:35
by sanman

Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 08:52
by NRao
For kicks.


Re: India - Canada - News and Discussion. (2018)

Posted: 05 Oct 2023 09:42
by vimal
Every country has intelligence; USA has CIA, Israel has Mossad, India has RAW and Canada has GOOGLE
:rotfl: