Bharat Rakshak

^^ I totally disagree ... I went for a marriage in Rajamundry, Vizag and met several relatives. They all were sure of one thing ...Modi at center Babu in the state. I met several who knew Anand Ranganathan and Jai Sai Deepak

Yes the cross-voting is being probed. Strange that BJP candidates lost yet the NDA MLA candidates won,
Your view is also correct.

Iyer-Mitra has some interesting arguments about what happened:
https://www.youtube.com/live/oOyoel1WAa ... 5bpoQWl0cv

ramana wrote: ↑19 Jun 2024 07:44 Yes the cross-voting is being probed. Strange that BJP candidates lost yet the NDA MLA candidates won,
Your view is also correct.

As far as Tirupati is concerned, I heard that the YSRCP MP candidate did lot of good work... It seems he had his own following locally...
That was the reason for cross-voting...
Don't know about other seats...

Is there any chance of the CPI candidate to beat Priyanka Vadra if the BJP sits out the Wayanad by-election?

No chance, but why not ask the Sharma guy to resign from Amethi and a Kerala INC person to represent Wayanad, would be very good for optics.

Aditya_V wrote: ↑19 Jun 2024 20:52 No chance, but why not ask the Sharma guy to resign from Amethi and a Kerala INC person to represent Wayanad, would be very good for optics.

If the INC does that. They will loose Amethi.

Wayanad is a safe seat for INC. But BJP should send a strong candidate to fight her.

Yeah, very unlikely that INC will lose this seat. INC can afford to lose 19% of the vote, and will still win.

ramana wrote: ↑19 Jun 2024 07:44 Yes the cross-voting is being probed. Strange that BJP candidates lost yet the NDA MLA candidates won,
Your view is also correct.

Aa I said Tirupati was lost due to strong local candidate for YSRCP...

In the remaining 3 seats, 2 of the seats namely Kadapa and Rajampeta got YSRCP MPs becoz. these seats have YSRCP MLAs and significant voteshare...

Coming to Aruku, in MP elections CPI(M) got 10% voteshare... CPI(M) is in alliance with INC... They didn't get much votes in Assembly segments, but got significant votes for MP seat...
This is the reason for BJP loss...

A_Gupta wrote: ↑19 Jun 2024 20:33 Is there any chance of the CPI candidate to beat Priyanka Vadra if the BJP sits out the Wayanad by-election?

A_Gupta ji,


the CPI candidate has the personality of a wet piece of cardboard, just like her spouse daniel raja, and she doesn't stand a chance

the normal commie methodology for an election is violence, intimidation, and terrorization of voters

But this is in a constituency where the electorate per se, has an agenda, so whichever congi lamp post is put up, the jihadi vote will go to them

so, it looks like the commie dynast, aunty annie, is fresh out of luck

They will not speak out because they fear that they and their party will be cut out of the spoils of power that the congis may gain if they overcome the BJP some time in the future.

Rahul Gandhi gave a really bad interview with the Financial Times. This following youtube debunks that interview, and then disposes a lot of rubbish that is apparently going around in some circles in India.
https://www.youtube.com/live/3ZRR_i_stn ... seTWm2QDzA

As the commentator says, ".... I just see one reason for this kind of rhetoric it is to create instability in foreign inflows into India and to create economic instability in India that that is the only reason I feel what the tragedy is that the people of India are still not able to realize that Rahul Gandhi to become Prime Minister is willing to burn his own country up and honestly my question to Rahul Gandhi is that are you an Indian."

This youtube is not necessary for BRFers, but may be useful for them to provide to others who need it.

https://x.com/RajeevRC_X/status/1803275610359472525

Rajeev Chandrasekhar
@RajeevRC_X
Costs of Rahuls Cong guarantees are being borne by the people

Prices of Fuel, Electricity, Water, Homes, food all increasing ;
Development, Investments and Jobs declining
Corruption increasing

Stark reality of Congress politics

#CongPoliticsOfLies
#TruthAboutCorruptCong

Karthik Reddy @bykarthikreddy
“It has become imperative to increase the water tariff as the water board is not able to pay the electricity bill. It is also difficult to pay the salaries of the staff" : DK Shivakumar, KPCC Chief, Dy CM & Man of Guarantees.

I think BJP should start exposing with sophisticated SM campaign on every one of these states and how they are failing

Times Algebra @TimesAlgebraIND

As Per ABP News, BJP's review report claims that UP elections were manipulated by some officers.

Names of a large number of BJP supporting voters were deleted.

UP BJP may demand investigation. Accusations of deliberate wrongdoing by officials.

During the review, workers and officials accused the BLO of irregularities at many places.

A huge gap was found between the final list of voters and the voter list available with the presiding officer.

Strong possibility. Not just UP. I know a very close relative in B'lore. They did not get voter slips until 2 days before.

What is the answer to these issues??
Why cant they have NRC??
or spruce up Adhar no and that is the thing for all government work and id.
Can adhar card not used as voter identity for entering them on to the voter list??

SRajesh wrote: ↑20 Jun 2024 18:35 What is the answer to these issues??
Why cant they have NRC??
or spruce up Adhar no and that is the thing for all government work and id.
Can adhar card not used as voter identity for entering them on to the voter list??

I think EC state units had issues. In many places, BJP workers became so lazy that they all thought Modi is going to win anyway.

vijayk wrote: ↑20 Jun 2024 18:08 Times Algebra @TimesAlgebraIND

As Per ABP News, BJP's review report claims that UP elections were manipulated by some officers.

Names of a large number of BJP supporting voters were deleted.

UP BJP may demand investigation. Accusations of deliberate wrongdoing by officials.

During the review, workers and officials accused the BLO of irregularities at many places.

A huge gap was found between the final list of voters and the voter list available with the presiding officer.

Strong possibility. Not just UP. I know a very close relative in B'lore. They did not get voter slips until 2 days before.

I saw a YouTube video where Varanasi people were complaining about names missing from the voter lists. One person was saying 17 names missing from vote list from his extended family alone. All were BJP supporters. Looks like bureacracy trying to rig elections against Yogi due to reduced corruption opportunities

vijayk wrote: ↑20 Jun 2024 06:22 I think BJP should start exposing with sophisticated SM campaign on every one of these states and how they are failing

I think not. BJP should instead begin a leaflet distribution from house to house explain how to people can avail themselves of all Congress promised benefits and addresses of local Congress offices where one can go if such benefits are not given. Attached within the leaflet, BJP should explain how citizen will be paying for these benefits by listing examples.

sanjayc wrote: ↑20 Jun 2024 19:07

vijayk wrote: ↑20 Jun 2024 18:08 Times Algebra @TimesAlgebraIND


Strong possibility. Not just UP. I know a very close relative in B'lore. They did not get voter slips until 2 days before.

I saw a YouTube video where Varanasi people were complaining about names missing from the voter lists. One person was saying 17 names missing from vote list from his extended family alone. All were BJP supporters. Looks like bureacracy trying to rig elections against Yogi due to reduced corruption opportunities

Then the bureaucracy in not in control of the govt. while state and center were both in their hands.
What they can get done even if get to form the govt. It would be a lame govt.

Disinfo lab, Vijay Jagera, Bhikumatre, Ajeet Bharti, Adi Achint have exposed all these links better than our own agencies.

BJP IT Cell does not care. BJP never paid any attention and platforms Twitter/Insta/Youtube totally demonetized and reduced the reach of all of these.

https://x.com/MinhazMerchant/status/1803839003549909163

Minhaz Merchant @MinhazMerchant
Foreign interference in the 2024 Lok Sabha poll peaked with paid propaganda articles & YouTube videos. A common thread: George Soros Open Society Foundation (OSF) & Henry Luce Foundation. The conduit: a well-known French India-baiter

My ⁦@DainikBhaskar

^
The amount of bile that is on Wikipedia on India at this page is unbelievable but par for the course. Nothing much on the US nor any of the Western Europe though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-spo ... ia-Pacific

 India: Sponsored trolls include BJP IT Cell.[27][28] The Bharatiya Janata Party uses exclusive troll disinformation to repress and monitor government opponents.[29] In 2019, a European News Watchdog discovered 265 bogus media outlets in 65 countries which are managed by an "Indian influence network".[30] The network of fake news websites were used to target policy makers in the United States and the European Union to act against Pakistan.[31] The aim of those websites is to spread propaganda and influence public perception on Pakistan.[32] Tek Fog is a software application which is operable via a mobile phone. It is allegedly used by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) to infiltrate social media platforms in order to promote favourable viewpoints and target perceived opponents.[33]

That "watchdog" is EU DisinfoLab

https://www.disinfo.eu/about-us/our-team-and-board/

Nothing much about "the team", The four board members though have interesting bios. One is Columbia educated, another part of Bill Clinton admin, another ex-MEP, and the last one an ex-Brutishit diplo-mutt. Buggers are operating out of Brussels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_m ... s_websites

This page says the following about The Disinfo Lab

thedisinfolab.org
Owned by an officer of India's foreign intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing.

Source, you ask?

Nobody other than the Shittistani agitprop artist Cj Werelman.

Shih, Gerry; Ence Morse, Clara; Verma, Pranshu (2023-12-11). "Covert Indian operation seeks to discredit Modi's critics in the U.S." The Washington Post. Archived from the original on 2023-12-11. Retrieved 2023-12-30.

Werleman, CJ (9 February 2022). "Disinfo Lab: An Online Hindu Nationalist Disinformation Campaign". Byline Times. Retrieved December 30, 2023.

A lot of Indian websites and news orgs are listed as fake information spreaders by Politifacts. Who, one might wonder, are their funders?!!! Wikpedia has the answer, ofcourse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact#Funding

The usual suspects Omidyar, B&M Gates Foundation, Ford Foundation, ...

Oh and Facebook, MS, and TikTok as well.

SRajesh wrote: ↑20 Jun 2024 18:35 What is the answer to these issues??
Why cant they have NRC??
or spruce up Adhar no and that is the thing for all government work and id.
Can adhar card not used as voter identity for entering them on to the voter list??

• Link Voter ID with Aadhar

• Voter Id cant be deleted unless Aadhar is deleted which happens when person Die

• Person can move from one city to another in that case voter moves to different constituency

• before any election a Aadhar and voter id comparison is done and all changes are audited

Some folks are spreading rumour that RSS wanted Gadkari to become PM and hence wanted to keep score at 240. They suspect Gadkari will be PM in next 3-6 months

Election consequences

https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/1804069603565539569
the Rouse Avenue Court had granted bail to Kejriwal without reading the full documents?

Why would they do this? It raises serious questions on that particular judge as well as the judiciary.

Delhi high court pauses Arvind Kejriwal's bail amid ED's ‘stay’ demand.

A local court in Delhi granted bail to Kejriwal yesterday.

ED then moved the Delhi HC challenging bail granted to Kejriwal.

HC said the trial court's order will not take effect till it hears the matter

vijayk wrote: ↑21 Jun 2024 15:33 Election consequences

https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/1804069603565539569
the Rouse Avenue Court had granted bail to Kejriwal without reading the full documents?

Why would they do this? It raises serious questions on that particular judge as well as the judiciary.

The judge could be promised pro quid quo.
Her judgment was flippant.

vijayk wrote: ↑21 Jun 2024 15:33 Election consequences

https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/1804069603565539569
the Rouse Avenue Court had granted bail to Kejriwal without reading the full documents?

Why would they do this? It raises serious questions on that particular judge as well as the judiciary.

Why should he be in jail ? 1000 pages is too much to read and comment. ED is just trying to misuse judicial process to keep someone in custody longer. Its been months since ED started sending summons. Why have they not completed the investigation till now. If this becomes norm tomorrow anyone us can face the same. Why set a bad precedent.

What purpose will it serve to keep AK in jail. Just because it is AK, I would not let state misuse the judicial process. By now the investigation completed and trail started. Any person should not be in jail before undergoing trail.

The trial process is lengthy, then that needs fixing and not misuse of judicial process. The regime had 10 years to fix that.

isubodh wrote: ↑22 Jun 2024 10:53

vijayk wrote: ↑21 Jun 2024 15:33 Why would they do this? It raises serious questions on that particular judge as well as the judiciary.

Why should he be in jail ? 1000 pages is too much to read and comment. ED is just trying to misuse judicial process to keep someone in custody longer. Its been months since ED started sending summons. Why have they not completed the investigation till now. If this ...

I hope you are being sarcastic. If not, i wonder what will happen to you if your surgeon operates on you without reading your case history!

Folks on the ground. What is state BJP doing about water crisis in Delhi? They are the opposition and should be making the list noise. Instead we find Atishi hogging the limelight.

https://www.opindia.com/2024/06/delhi-b ... rike-fake/

This is precisely tbe toe of organisational lassitude that hurts the BJP

Karnataka govt's own MLAs are calling an end to guarantee schemes as all development work has stopped. The govt has hired Boston Consulting Group to plug leaks and improve revenues. If they plug leaks, its their own party workers will be effected and they still won't be able to bridge the gap. I hope atleast a section of voters realize congress' schemes are unsustainable. The Telangana govt hasn't even started implementing their guarantees.

What's brewing between RSS and BJP?

Looks like some honest venting on MH and overall Modi/Shah working vs RSS feedback. We can only ignore if you wan to see the Italian as PM

If you knew about history of Jagdish Shetty and Natraj Shetty, you'd know why PGurus gives people like them a platform to vent against Modi and Shah. Yes, the BJP leadership including Modi and Shah made several mistakes leading upto the elections, but this imaginary "sidelining of RSS" was not one of them. Besides, 90% of BJP voters don't go to the polling booth with RSS or Mohan Bhagwat in mind.

Mukesh.Kumar wrote: ↑22 Jun 2024 16:01 Folks on the ground. What is state BJP doing about water crisis in Delhi? They are the opposition and should be making the list noise. Instead we find Atishi hogging the limelight.

https://www.opindia.com/2024/06/delhi-b ... rike-fake/

This is precisely tbe toe of organisational lassitude that hurts the BJP

https://x.com/PTI_News/status/1804400357088354410

vijayk wrote: ↑22 Jun 2024 20:13

Mukesh.Kumar wrote: ↑22 Jun 2024 16:01 Folks on the ground. What is state BJP doing about water crisis in Delhi? They are the opposition and should be making the list noise. Instead we find Atishi hogging the limelight.

https://www.opindia.com/2024/06/delhi-b ... rike-fake/

This is precisely tbe toe of organisational lassitude that hurts the BJP

https://x.com/PTI_News/status/1804400357088354410

Precisely. This is Reactive.

They needed to be out before Marlena launched the stunt.

Same tragic behavior on NEET and unemployment fake stories. BJP is not favored in youth more due to poisoning by Pappu and youtube/insta propaganda on unemployment

ramana wrote: ↑22 Jun 2024 07:56

vijayk wrote: ↑21 Jun 2024 15:33 Election consequences

https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/1804069603565539569
the Rouse Avenue Court had granted bail to Kejriwal without reading the full documents?

Why would they do this? It raises serious questions on that particular judge as well as the judiciary.

The judge could be promised pro quid quo.
Her judgment was flippant.

sirji,

per SM, some of auntie's family seem heavily connected to certain paapi members

the same is being repeated/quoted by many

vijayk wrote: ↑20 Jun 2024 18:08 Times Algebra @TimesAlgebraIND

As Per ABP News, BJP's review report claims that UP elections were manipulated by some officers.

Names of a large number of BJP supporting voters were deleted.

UP BJP may demand investigation. Accusations of deliberate wrongdoing by officials.

During the review, workers and officials accused the BLO of irregularities at many places.

A huge gap was found between the final list of voters and the voter list available with the presiding officer.

Strong possibility. Not just UP. I know a very close relative in B'lore. They did not get voter slips until 2 days before.

Vijay K,
this still doesn't explain BJP's loss in Maharashtra or Haryana where they were also in power. Also the loss is in some thousands of votes in UP, not in some hundreds. This needs a deep understanding rather than simple RSS is against BJP/Modi, thakurs against BJP, Amit Shah against yogi or something like that.

This has been a very strange election. i am going to pen what i have come across the past few days.

1. Just 3-4 months before elections, a lot of the congress party people were leaving the party and the morale looked down atleast quite openly for that party. Did it lead to over confidence on the BJP side? But the votes secured by the INDI Alliance even after the defections and no open anti-incumbency say other wise. So the votes have more or less stuck with the Congress party even after the defections of the leaders, this generally doesn't happen when leaders move as they take a chunk of their followers/votes with them.

a. most of the defecting people are senior guys and they should have a pulse on what their supporters were feeling if they were going to stick or leave the congress itself.

2. The other aspect seen in this election was everything that was seen as a problem for the BJP or built up a year or so in advance has yielded results for the INDI Alliance. That shows that Indi's targetted campaign has worked or BJP has lacked communication or maybe a bit of both.

a. the jaat wrestlers agitation and the subsequent khap panchayats diktats from Haryana and western UP has engineered a chunk of votes away from the BJP even after aligning with Jayant Chaudary. voting for samajwadi party which was primarily responsible for muzzafar nagar riots in 2013.

b. the agitation in ladakh asking for article 371 that has turned people against the BJP with sonam wangchuk leading the agitation. there was an interview with Suresh Kotchatill and the ladakhi council where they are happy with the modi govt sanctioning money (about 6000crores) for development of ladakh, there are fruit juice processing plants and some wool processing plants and some more. yet the ladakhi council has said that it has gone very deep into the people minds that they should have article 371 and numbers game has decimated the BJP with the shias of kargil putting in only one cadidate and the buddhists from ladakh having two candidates - one from BJP and the other from pro Art 371 group. The BJP finished 3rd.

c. BJP has lost both seats in Manipur with the church siding against the BJP and the meitei side also not voting for the BJP.

d. The farmer protests has seen BJP dented in Punjab, Haryana, loosing in the lekimpur Kheri constituency as well.

3. Rahul gandhi has barely campaigned in Raibareilly and Amethi yet congress won with really big margins. Smriti Irani who has done some work on roads, hospitals and AIIMS is accused of just abusing Rahul gandhi, but apparently the same is not applicable to rahul gandhi when he was seen participating in mocking of VP Jagdeep Dhankhad or congressi trolling or calling Smriti Irani names all throughout these 5 years.

4. the RSS did some 1 lakh sabhas big and small in 24 days in MP to get BJP that record margin of victories, was that not done in UP and Maha?

5. The major pollsters all missed the arithmetic, pulse on the ground with the likes of yogendra yadav not withstanding.

6. It seems to be slowly coming to the fore that "maybe" the uppercaste has more or less stayed with BJP (maybe except brahmins) and a lot of sc/st votes has gone to congress alliance with the campaign that BJP would remove reservations ( i didn't believe that still now, but a colleague of mine was saying that his builder in Maha has said reservations will be taken out in last year Oct-Nov as its a BJP's internal memo and both are hardcore hindutva wadis, somehow this part I have not heard untill this election cycle).

a. The same campaign style of telangana where BRS and BJP was seen as the same to vote for congress seem to have been used against Mayawati's vote bank with reservation removal fears and calling Mayawati as BJP's B team.

7. BJP probably did a little too little too late in addressing the reservation and congress has used deep fake videos saying that Amit Shah ahs said he will remove the reservations.

aftermath of the election.

1. Now that the congress has almost doubled its seat count, its going to go on the attack with what ever news it can lay it hands on fake or real doesn't matter. They will not allow the Lok Sabha to function.

2. The people blame BJP IT cell as useless (and useless they may be), but i find that most so called right wing or govt supporting channels to be equally clueless (none raised any issue when the elections were on going or during ticket distribution), but are now busy pedalling Yogi vs Amit Shah and upper caste votes moving away from the BJP when it looks like reservations and mayawatis jatav votes (who are ambedkarites as they come) have voted for the Congress alliance.

3. We will be bombarded with news about how Modi and Shah are going to be replaced with some xyz from RSS and how Yogi will sent home (this is straight from Arvind Kejriwal and AAP's campaigning style. This was what had happened after the Bengal vidhan sabha elections and every day we were seeing news about Modi Shah being replaced, along with yogi also. It continued till 2022 UP elections untill Yogi became the CM again and all the sounds just mysteriously disappeared).