Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Mar 2014 20:51

In Gurgaon, many (around 250) AAP leaders and workers left the party. Not good for Yogendra Yadav. Source

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 23 Mar 2014 21:06

So what do Richard J Daley and Sharad Pawar have in common?

"Vote early and often"

http://www.hindustantimes.com/elections ... 99317.aspx

"Nationalist Congress Party chief Sharad Pawar on Sunday made a strange suggestion to headloaders – to indulge in double voting in the ensuing Lok Sabha elections."

As Shashi Tharoor once observed: "Parliamentary democracy is not suitable to India."

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 23 Mar 2014 21:49

MJA's ancestors said to be Hindu Rajputs and he is only a first or second generation Muslim. I am worried about all the people coming into BJP being welcomed with open hands. NM to be careful. Already we see what D4 is doing.

sum · Post by **sum** » 23 Mar 2014 22:08

^^ Do we really believe full time netas who have been politicking from the time they were in diapers to not take all these precautions etc which part time politics watchers like on us on BRF notice?

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 23 Mar 2014 22:31

After quitting Shiv Sena, Muthalik established Sri Ram Sena in 2006.[8] In 2009, the Ram Sena men led an attack on a Mangalore pub, where women were beaten. Muthalik defended the attack saying that girls going to pub was against Indian culture.[9] He also questioned the media and the government on their silence on the illegal Bangladeshi infiltrators.[10]
Following the attack, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) state government banned him from entering Mangalore. In response, he campaigned against BJP in the 2009 Lok Sabha elections, calling it "corrupt and anti-Hindu".[8]

wiki

he has been in and out of BD, SS etc, he seems to have some cadre but inducting him will damage national appeal. period.

disha · Post by **disha** » 23 Mar 2014 22:56

rohitvats wrote:Pramod Muthalik joining BJP is biggest ch@@tiyapa....god knows whose hair-brained idea is this!

No Sir., Qu@@tiyapa is in getting our pink-chaddis in twist. Here is my response in Modi thread:

Why not? (for Pramod to join BJP)

You do not agree with Pramod Muthalik's politics does not mean that Pramod loses the right to join the party he chooses! If the BJP's constitution allows an Indian national to join the party., why stop that?

Now do not go and say Pramod is criminal et al. Prove that in court of law, if proven - let him serve time and after that he is as free as you and me and as much rights as you and me.

BTW, in another news.,

1. Wife of the professor whose hands were chopped off, committed suicide. She was Hindu. So no human rights for her.

2. In Rajasthan, a woman was forced into sex-trade., she resisted - severely beaten up (lost several teeth) and worse her breasts were chopped off. The perpetrators were muslims. No outrage. Since the perpetrators were muslims?

Do you know when pressure cooker blows up, it is an uncontrolled explosion! Indian are sitting on a pressure cooker. And MSM is fanning the flames.

And you sir, need to have more empathy. Mangalore is not Mumbai or B'glore., that is it is not cosmopolitan. A pub going culture is going to create angst and Ram Sene kind of groups thrive on such angst. There is nothing wrong culturally about it either.

That is where #libtards have lost the plot., #libtards fail to understand that every body has a voice and they cannot start moralizing based on a particular world-view - like pub-culture is okay or valentine day is okay and start something like the "pink-chaddi" campaign.

Anyway., Pramod got his 15 mins. of fame and he will use that to shore up his political chances.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 23 Mar 2014 23:00

IndraD wrote:
After quitting Shiv Sena, Muthalik established Sri Ram Sena in 2006.[8] In 2009, the Ram Sena men led an attack on a Mangalore pub, where women were beaten. Muthalik defended the attack saying that girls going to pub was against Indian culture.[9] He also questioned the media and the government on their silence on the illegal Bangladeshi infiltrators.[10]
Following the attack, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) state government banned him from entering Mangalore. In response, he campaigned against BJP in the 2009 Lok Sabha elections, calling it "corrupt and anti-Hindu".[8]
wiki

he has been in and out of BD, SS etc, he seems to have some cadre but inducting him will damage national appeal. period.

needs some more info on him-
- media were waiting with cameras rolled to show his antics live to the people.
- even though he had no conncetion to BJP, association was made
- money was allegedly paid by congis with media being plaint to show BJP ruling govt in badlight-
- even now (2014) Muthalik was put up as an independent candidate with congis help to defeat offical BJP candidate.

To neutralise this threat local folks roped him inside to piss rather than outside. D4 seems to have taken lead in this to protect their turf(AnanthKumar)
This has spectacularly backfired.

overall badly managed. could have had backseat negotiations and dealings post elections.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 23 Mar 2014 23:24

Ashok ‏@nationalizer 3h

Sushma tweeted her protest, nothing happened. We tweeted our protest, everything happened. We are being listened.

too much on sushi auntie.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 24 Mar 2014 00:43

After witnessing the literal firestorm on Twitter against induction of Muthalik in BJP, one thing is certain - the vote is for Narendra Modi and a vision of secure and prosperous India. The people who have stridently supported Modi and by extension BJP will turn away in double-quick time if people lie Muthalik and their acts are feted or condoned.

In this day and age, you cannot use violence to enforce your world view on people - the society will manage the inevitable change(s) with out the need for such thekedars of culture and religion.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 24 Mar 2014 00:49

nageshks wrote: With the exit of Haladi Sreenivasa Shetty, BJP has only one leader in the Udupi Chikmaglur region - C T Ravi (unless you want to count the controversial Jeevaraj from Sringeri). Yediyurappa got his cooperation and nominated Shobha as the candidate there - her nomination was a sop to Yediyurappa, and a desire to keep him in good humour.

Haladi Sreenivasa Shetty is a true son of soil. A bachelor, humble, soft spoken, hard working. BJP humiliated him , and i doubt if he'll ever go back to BJP. He has immense goodwill and support of people, and will continue to contest and win as an independent candidate. With Shobha, BJP has almost no chance of taking Udupi-Chickamaglur constituency, certainly not against JP Hegde.

Yes, CT Ravi was another option, but he has done nothing for his constituency Chickamaglur, let alone carve a name for himself in Udupi. JEven if Chickamaglur would vote for him, Udupi-Kundapur would most certainly vote against Ravi.

nageshks wrote:For starters, the BJP nominee is C H Vijayashankar, from Hunsur. B B Shivappa is well past his sell by date. If he could not win the battle against Deve Gowda in 98, when Shivappa was at his peak, he is not going to do it now. B B Shivappa can't win his old Assembly segment, Sakaleshapura, against Deve Gowda's nominees (and, in fact, he failed miserably fielding his protege in Assembly 2013 in Sakaleshapura). There are plenty of Kurubas in the Holenarasipur-Arkalgud belt, and C H Vijayashankar can try to take advantage of that fact. But it is just a bit of a party building exercise in the region. BJP has no one who can challenge Deve Gowda.

Hunsur is a part of Mysore district which makes Vijayashankar an outsider in Hassan. If BB Shivappa is old, so is Devegowda. BB Shivappa could've atleast used his good name among lingayats and middle-class non-vokkaligas in Hassan . With Vijayashankar, it is a straight fight between Congress and JDS in Hassan.

And then they go on to take a Hassan native Pratap Simha and ask him to fight from Mysore ! Utter madness !

nageshks wrote:Vijayashankar has made too many enemies in Mysore. Also, his main USP was that he could get the Kuruba votes in Periyapatna-Hunsur region. But with Siddaramaiah, few Kurubas are going to vote for him - Siddaramaiah has a cult following in the region. So, it was better to try to consolidate the middle class votes in Mysore and the Kodavas in Coorg, for which Pratap Simha is a much better choice.

Pratap Simha is a toddler in politics. At best he may divert some votes from that would have landed in Congress's kitty towards him, and there by making it difficult for them to have a straight fight with JDS.

All in all, BJP once again ruined its chances in Karnataka by giving contesting candidates with huge baggage. Their strategy is something that only they can understand. Even Bangalore South looks shaky with Nilekani against Anantkumar.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Mar 2014 00:56

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 24 Mar 2014 00:59

krisna wrote: wiki

he has been in and out of BD, SS etc, he seems to have some cadre but inducting him will damage national appeal. period.
needs some more info on him-
- media were waiting with cameras rolled to show his antics live to the people.
- even though he had no conncetion to BJP, association was made
- money was allegedly paid by congis with media being plaint to show BJP ruling govt in badlight-
- even now (2014) Muthalik was put up as an independent candidate with congis help to defeat offical BJP candidate.

To neutralise this threat local folks roped him inside to piss rather than outside. D4 seems to have taken lead in this to protect their turf(AnanthKumar)
This has spectacularly backfired.

overall badly managed. could have had backseat negotiations and dealings post elections.

Krisna, BJPs strategy cell and their media wing in Karnataka needs to be fired.Period. BJP should have distanced itself from all these "senas" in Karnataka, instead standing with them only gaves Congress more arsenal. BJP refused to openly criticize VHP or Bajrang dal after morning mist resort attack, and congress milked every ounce of that controversy for over an year. BJP should be portraying itself as a progressive and nationalist party, and a viable alternative to congress. Instead by associating itself with shady goons like Muthaliks and Padils, they are throwing away the very middle class votes that can potentially help them win elections this year.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 24 Mar 2014 02:08

IBTL predicting 57 for BJP in UP. Source

satya · Post by **satya** » 24 Mar 2014 02:20

Quoting IBTL link from Rajesh's post

Key Findings from North India

Post Candidate selection, BJP seems to have lost the momentum and is expected to win 3 seats (compared to 6 predicted in March) while INLD is gaining grounds

Confirm what i heard today that INLD is a serious contender in Kurushetra , Hisar , Sirsa & a tough fight in Rohtak , Sonipat . Bhiwani is witnessing backstabbing in Congress .Motivation & committment is highest among INLD supporters . BJP is counting on non-Jat voters along HJC . Hisar will probably see the smallest victory margin among all seats . In last election Kuldip won by 6000 votes . This time Congress has fielded a bit heavier candidate & INLD has received a boost in form of two leaders from Saini community joining it & ofcourse INLD too has brough in money power ( absent last time when Ajay lost to Kuldip) .
Worst case scenario for INC is losing 9 seats in Haryana .

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 24 Mar 2014 02:46

AAP to give 20% seats in UP to muslims
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 565533.cms?

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 24 Mar 2014 03:53

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 574289.cms

So my early allegation about the first doctor doing autopsy was correct (Dr Sudhir Gupta)

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 24 Mar 2014 04:00

Sanku wrote:
SwamyG wrote: Added: Oh, even if one were to agree your (invalid) arguments to be valid, is it not BJP's responsibility to educate/inform the voter base? Or do you think BJP can perch on the ivory pedestal, and all the onus is on the voters to chose responsibly without the right information?
SwmayG, democracy is a two way street, the voter needs to self inform themselves to a basic level.

I guess that is the attitude BJP had in 2009, and we all know how the result went.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 24 Mar 2014 04:11

BJP is following the wisdom of Atri-ji, MuraliRavi-ji and others on this thread.

Anil Shirole declared BJP candidate for Pune.

http://www.bjp.org/en/media-resources/p ... ction-2014

A question for the Gurus

Does anyone know anything about Vagish Pathak, who has been declared BJP candidate from Budaun? And any info about BJP chances from Budaun?

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 24 Mar 2014 04:18

Khujli when asked why he doesn't mention congress now a days

Because Congress does not exist … Congress is finished.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 98466.aspx

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 24 Mar 2014 04:28

Thanks for the info, Satya-ji.

satya wrote: Confirm what i heard today that INLD is a serious contender in Kurushetra

Agree fight is between INLD and Congress in Kurukshetra. Wonder if Naveen Jindal can buy enough votes to keep him alive in the election.

Sirsa

INLD has fielded a SAD turncoat in the constituency (Charanjit Singh). I know there are a lot of Ramdassia Sikhs in the region, but is Charanjit up to taking on Sushil Indora (HJC) and Ashok Tanwar (Congress)?

a tough fight in Rohtak , Sonipat .

INLD will doubtless put up a very good fight, but in the end, Hooda may just take these two.

Bhiwani is witnessing backstabbing in Congress

Sabotage against Kiran? And by whom? .

Motivation & committment is highest among INLD supporters

I agree about this.

BJP is counting on non-Jat voters along HJC

BJP has a good chance in the south (Gurgaon, Faridabad, and Bhiwani) and in Ambala, maybe, just maybe Karnal. Any idea how the Jats and Brahmins will vote in Karnal?

Hisar will probably see the smallest victory margin among all seats . In last election Kuldip won by 6000 votes . This time Congress has fielded a bit heavier candidate & INLD has received a boost in form of two leaders from Saini community joining it & ofcourse INLD too has brough in money power ( absent last time when Ajay lost to Kuldip) .

You don't think the upper caste votes of the BJP can help him? Won't it give him a small cushion of comfort? I agree that the Jats and the rural labour vote will go with Dushyant Chauthala, but can't it be made up by the upper caste votes of the BJP?

Worst case scenario for INC is losing 9 seats in Haryana .

I am hoping for this, but I am afraid that the Congress will end up taking Sonepat, Rohtak and maybe one or two more of Karnal, Sirsa, Kurukshetra, Faridabad, and Bhiwani.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Mar 2014 04:49

Newly started website of Vajpayee-Congress

http://bjpindia.org/

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 24 Mar 2014 05:01

is vajpayee aware of this site, developments, what is his take? Does it mean rhis site is being endorsed by Advani, Vajpayee? If not they should ask their names be taken off site. Surprisingly SS is not there.
Now I can say regarding Jaswant--good riddance.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 24 Mar 2014 05:28

Wonderful if true...

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 24 Mar 2014 05:34

RajeshA wrote:IBTL predicting 57 for BJP in UP. Source

We did survey 1200 people in Varanasi (which is a robust sample size for a lone constituency) and weighted the respondents’ profile to match that of Constituency Demographics and here are the results.

# With high profile battle and increased awareness, the voter turnout is expected to be ~70%

# Overall out of 18 lakh expected voters12.6 lakhs would cast their votes

# We asked the respondents in a 6 way fight between BJP, BSP, SP, Congress, AAP and Quami Ekta Dal in the race with BJP fielding Modi, AAP fielding Kejriwal, and QED fielding Ansari and the results were

57% preferred Modi in a 6 way fight, 16% Ansari, 6% Congress, 4% SP, 3% BSP and 2% Kejriwal, Remaining 12% for other candidates

This would result in Modi getting around 7 lakh votes and winning by a margin of over 5 lakh votes

Despite all the drumbeating, Arvind kejriwal would get merely 25000 or 2% of the votes and end of forfeiting his deposit and possibly be placed in 6th or 7th place

# In a situation if Opposition fielded a join candidate probably Kejriwal, 60% respondents said they would choose Modi, while 30% said they would choose Kejriwal

This would lead to intense Polarization of the said seat and Kejriwal would score high with the help of SP, BSP, Congress and QED votes

Some traditional voters would also vote for Modi getting over 7.5 lakh votes while kejriwal getting over 3.5 lakh votes.

In such a situation Modi’s victory margin will come down to 3 lakh range
to be continued ...

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 24 Mar 2014 05:35

IndraD wrote:Khujli when asked why he doesn't mention congress now a days
Because Congress does not exist … Congress is finished.

Even BJP and Modi aren't confident enough to think Congress is finished and does not exist. How is Kejriwal so sure?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 24 Mar 2014 05:37

bositive news continues from UP. I just wish they hadn't screwed up so badly in Bihar, J&K, MH, KA etc...

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 24 Mar 2014 05:56

Victor wrote: Even BJP and Modi aren't confident enough to think Congress is finished and does not exist. How is Kejriwal so sure?

He is not. He is BSing. His only aim is to reduce BJP numbers so that Sushie aunt can raise ugly head and pave the way for MAFIA. This moron is a snake nurtured by Ford Foundation,Naxals,EJs and MAFIA

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 24 Mar 2014 06:09

He is basically a narcissist who wishes to get as much power as possible as fast as possible, no matter what the means or methods. He lies, changes positions, will do anything to get power.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 24 Mar 2014 06:35

Hari Seldon wrote:bositive news continues from UP. I just wish they hadn't screwed up so badly in Bihar, J&K, MH, KA etc...

Hari sir,

Bjp has not screwed anything in bihar or MH as far as i know, the candidates are on expected lines. In MH bjp is not responsible if ss is losing its base. KA also they have done their best, all this muthalik episode is of zero value when it comes to elections

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 24 Mar 2014 06:39

nageshks wrote:BJP is following the wisdom of Atri-ji, MuraliRavi-ji and others on this thread.

Anil Shirole declared BJP candidate for Pune.

http://www.bjp.org/en/media-resources/p ... ction-2014

A question for the Gurus

Does anyone know anything about Vagish Pathak, who has been declared BJP candidate from Budaun? And any info about BJP chances from Budaun?

Nagesh ji,

I guess they asked gadkari to take a hike. Atri ji can educate us more. I think Anil Shirole has very good chances of winning this time.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Mar 2014 06:45

BJP this time has done an extremely great job in terms of candidates. When compared to 2009 they are miles away. I don't but this crap pulped by few in BJP and the MSM. Overall there will always be some give and take when there are several contenders but this time it was winning that was made as important as compared to bade log etc. It would have been nice if LKA, MMJ and JS took the RS route as it is really the elder house and these truly the elders. The thing that BJP failed is to overcome the tantrums of those suffering from "vaardhakyam"

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 24 Mar 2014 07:03

We do not know the details on the D4-D6 internal sabotage. Jassi may have been the main guy plotting behind NM's back and sabotaging BJP from inside. Knowing the way NM and BJP operate the Jassi plotting might have been very serious that he is completely sidelined. The new gang will be quietly sidelined post election.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Mar 2014 07:16

Anantha wrote:We do not know the details on the D4-D6 internal sabotage. Jassi may have been the main guy plotting behind NM's back and sabotaging BJP from inside. Knowing the way NM and BJP operate the Jassi plotting might have been very serious that he is completely sidelined. The new gang will be quietly sidelined post election.

He is like a lamb raised by lioness along with her cubs. And the lamb gets delusional, go for hunting with cubs and get killed.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 24 Mar 2014 08:35

muraliravi wrote:
nageshks wrote:BJP is following the wisdom of Atri-ji, MuraliRavi-ji and others on this thread.

Anil Shirole declared BJP candidate for Pune.

http://www.bjp.org/en/media-resources/p ... ction-2014

A question for the Gurus

Does anyone know anything about Vagish Pathak, who has been declared BJP candidate from Budaun? And any info about BJP chances from Budaun?
Nagesh ji,

I guess they asked gadkari to take a hike. Atri ji can educate us more. I think Anil Shirole has very good chances of winning this time.

it's unlikely that Gadkari would be on the wrong side of this. he is quite well entrenched in his base. and as such, he is likely to have a very good pulse of Maharashtra in general. he's a valued adviser to Modi and general asset to BJP.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 24 Mar 2014 08:39

Nice story on Satyapal Singh, BJP Candidate in Bagpat, against Ajit Singh.

450 India shooters line up in Baghpat to fire for Satyapal Singh

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... ttarget=no

archan · Post by **archan** » 24 Mar 2014 09:58

BJP MP in trouble for posing with Bible in Goa

A lawyer activist on Sunday filed a complaint to the chief electoral officer in Goa against former Union minister for state Shripad Naik for using the religious symbol for election campaign.

I have a pooch then, is the skull cap a religious symbol or not?

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 24 Mar 2014 10:34

muraliravi wrote:
nageshks wrote:BJP is following the wisdom of Atri-ji, MuraliRavi-ji and others on this thread.

Anil Shirole declared BJP candidate for Pune.

http://www.bjp.org/en/media-resources/p ... ction-2014

A question for the Gurus

Does anyone know anything about Vagish Pathak, who has been declared BJP candidate from Budaun? And any info about BJP chances from Budaun?
Nagesh ji,

I guess they asked gadkari to take a hike. Atri ji can educate us more. I think Anil Shirole has very good chances of winning this time.

Gadkari has nothing to do with this. They were waiting for congi candidate. If candidate were kalmadi again, they wpuld have fielded Bapat (a brahmin). Inc fielded vishwajeet kadam, a 96-clanner maratha, son of sugar-emperor and "education-emperor"(meaning education mafia) Patangrao Kadam. One may read about "Bharti Vidyapeeth" a popular deemed university of MH for more details. The concept of management quotas was taken to sterling heights by Patangrao kadam and DY Patil. Other smaller "education emperors" followed suite.

Anyways point being, it is foolish to field a non maratha candidate in maratha heartland against a maratha candidate. It is said that bapat being a brahmin is closer to gadkari but i do not think this is true. Shirole is a good man and enjoys support of sizeable brahmin community of Pune. Brahmins of pune vote for lotus irrespective of candidate. In one seat they vote for Hindu Mahasabha and daughter in law of Gopal godse and grand-daughter of savarkar. So that chunk will stay with BJP. Last time they did not vote much. This time they will. Marathas r happy and so are obcs. In all, cadre very happy. Pune was in bjp kitty this time. Shirole will increase margin. Furthermore even ncp might help bjp to defeat inc here along. Ppl will totally reject mns which does not appear very serious to give a fight.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 24 Mar 2014 10:52

Anantha wrote:We do not know the details on the D4-D6 internal sabotage. Jassi may have been the main guy plotting behind NM's back and sabotaging BJP from inside. Knowing the way NM and BJP operate the Jassi plotting might have been very serious that he is completely sidelined. The new gang will be quietly sidelined post election.

Now I feel that Jaswant Singh is just another Sudheendra Kulkarni

sum · Post by **sum** » 24 Mar 2014 10:59

^^ Am watching the ABP news video on Amit Shah again and again and man, i am getting more and more impressed every time.

Truely reminds me of a big lion coolly swatting away all the hordes of hyenas one by one. This man really seems to be a guy of the future for BJP!

Unbelievable presence of mind, composure and quick thinking.

Arunkumar · Post by **Arunkumar** » 24 Mar 2014 11:32

^^Yes it is. Planning to record it on pendrive and watch it on TV with beer and chicken 65.