Understanding the US - Again

[bala]

I think this forum has become a circus of TDS (trump derangement syndrome) afflicted people going of on rants and not adding any value.

Mods can we stop this incessant TDS stuff. maybe create a dedicated thread for such nonsense. At least 3 threads have become TDS blabbering - this thread, the Indian-US thread, the west asia iran war thread.

Nothing of value is being learnt except tirade after tirade mostly by US democratic voting members who lost badly in the previous US Presidential elections.

[Manish_P]

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@Amber G, a request; please stop using the term bhakts in negative terms. It is mostly used for spiritual matters and is a dear and very respected word used in Hinduism. I often see anti Hindu people using this term to demean Hinduism. Why are you also doing it?

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[bala]

^^
+108

[Amber G.]

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@Amber G, a request; please stop using the term bhakts in negative terms. It is mostly used for spiritual matters and is a dear and very respected word used in Hinduism. I often see anti Hindu people using this term to demean Hinduism. Why are you also doing it?

I understand where you're coming from, and I’m not using “bhakt” as a criticism of Hinduism or of devotion itself.

The original meaning of bhakt is of course spiritual and respected in Hindu traditions. But in current public and political conversation, the word has also evolved into a broader slang term for someone seen as following a person, ideology, or group uncritically — and that usage isn’t limited to one side. I’ve seen people called “bhakt” across the spectrum, including people labelled “woke,” political supporters, public figures’ followers, etc.

When I use it in that context, I mean “blind follower,” not “devotee” in the religious sense.

On the other hand, Hridayji - I also find it a little ironic when you commented on my 'scientific temper' , when I was just commenting on some pseudoscience ..

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Isn't it cute that Amber G, who supported the Woke culture groups is talking about scientific temperament?

For those who forgot; in Woke culture if a man applies lipstick and declared himself as woman then he is really a woman as per Wokeism.
[...It is actually worse than that. People use science to dupe the general public. ..Fauci is a fraud.... And then there is fraud in nobel prize ..]

[Manish_P]

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When I use it in that context, I mean “blind follower,” not “devotee” in the religious sense.
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Not everyone will get the context. Especially in the US context. Perhaps you should consider using words like Cultists, Acolytes etc

[Jay]

I think this forum has become a circus of TDS (trump derangement syndrome) afflicted people going of on rants and not adding any value.

Mods can we stop this incessant TDS stuff. maybe create a dedicated thread for such nonsense. At least 3 threads have become TDS blabbering - this thread, the Indian-US thread, the west asia iran war thread.

Nothing of value is being learnt except tirade after tirade mostly by US democratic voting members who lost badly in the previous US Presidential elections.

Anna, you are one of the few posters who incessantly spam these threads with all sorts of deranged political commentary, and conspiracies. I mean have you read what your last 10 posts on these threads are about and their content?

I thought TDS meant "trump devotion syndrome"!

[A_Gupta]

Mamdani had a good night Tuesday, politically speaking:

NEW YORK, N.Y.: The New York City Democratic Socialists are victorious in race after race after race tonight, including unseating two incumbent Democratic Congresspeople.

NYC DSA and NYC mayor Zohran Mamdani endorsed challengers to two of the city’s eleven Congressional representatives, and both won. in North Brooklyn’s 7th District, DSA endorsed-Claire Valdez defeated the chosen son of retiring Representative Nydia Velázquez, Brooklyn Borough President Antonio Reynoso, by over twenty points.

In the largest upset of the night, Darializa Avila Chevalier is currently leading Adriano Espaillat, Chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and leader of the local Dominican machine in Upper Manhattan’s 13th Congressional District. Espaillat made peace with and was endorsed by his former rivals, the African-American political leadership of Upper Manhattan, as well as House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. Chevalier overcame both political machines to hold a narrow lead over Espaillat.

Mamdani endorsed a third candidate not endorsed by DSA, Brad Lander, who defeated incumbent Dan Goldman in Lower Manhattan’s 10th Congressional District, being declared the winner as soon as polls closed and winning twice the votes that Goldman won.
In addition to Congressional races, Mamdani endorsed five candidates for the New York State Assembly; all are leading as of 10:27 PM EST. NYC DSA had a separate slate of eight endorsed candidates in the 2026 New York primaries; six are leading, often by overwhelming numbers; one has been declared the victor, and one is trailing their opponent.

[A_Gupta]

Quite rare among the TDS (devotion) afflicted.

CNN was right about the war, and I was wrong
https://thehill.com/national-security/5 ... surrender/

In March, CNN published a hard-to-believe exclusive, claiming that “Top Trump officials acknowledged to lawmakers during recent classified briefings that they did not plan for the possibility of Iran closing the [Strait of Hormuz] in response to strikes.”

In response, I suggested that there was “no need to consider the [story’s] sourcing or the outlet” because “this claim is completely unbelievable on its face.”

Boy, was I wrong.
The cable network later updated its reporting to explain that “Trump administration officials briefed lawmakers on long-standing military plans to address a major disruption to the Strait, according to one official, but that multiple sources familiar with the session said there was no indication there were any near-term solutions.” I criticized this framing as well, given that the clarification was way off from the first claim.

Again, I apologize. CNN’s sources were clearly correct. This iteration of the Trump presidency is exactly as inept as advertised.

Following the president’s signing last week of his “Memorandum of Understanding” with Iran — an agreement good for 60 days until Washington and Tehran strike a “final deal” — there’s nothing left except to concede that the U.S. was done in by a few mines. Iran actually forced a desperate White House to the negotiating table simply by flexing what muscles it has left over the Strait of Hormuz.

The largest, most powerful, and best-funded military in the history of the world, despite inflicting massive destruction and suffering minimal casualties, was somehow defeated by a shipping channel. Our British cousins must be having flashbacks to the Suez Canal.
The most astonishing thing about the White House’s capitulation in Iran, beyond the Islamic Republic’s victory in the face of a clear power disparity, is that the White House obviously jumped into the war with no real consideration or plan for the possibility that Iran might block the Strait of Hormuz. This despite U.S. military strategists warning for decades about this exact scenario.

This is an unbelievably bad deal. It could only have been devised by the type of man who would lose money as a casino owner.

And if you don’t think the deal stinks, just remember that when details about its text were first leaked, its architects — most notably Vice President J.D. Vance — claimed the information, which would eventually prove true, was merely “Iranian propaganda.” In other words, it’s a deal so great that its designers had to lie about it to sell it.

[A_Gupta]

Remember, this war of choice by Trump, and cheered on by his devotees, has cost Indian lives, and has cost the Indian economy dearly, including inflation, currency depreciation, higher fiscal deficits, trade route disruptions (not just shipping but airlines too).

Yet they continue to sing his praises on BRF of all places and complain that posters here are complaining about Trump.
Can they be half as honest as "CNN was right about the war, and I was wrong"?

[A_Gupta]

The NYT says:

Mamdani Emerges as Kingmaker, Pushing His Slate to a Primary Sweep
Mayor Zohran Mamdani shook the Democratic establishment by helping drive three progressive candidates to victory.

Mayor Zohran Mamdani and his allies swept a series of congressional primaries in New York City on Tuesday in a remarkable show of strength for the insurgent left that sent shock waves through the Democratic Party.

Mr. Mamdani’s candidates toppled a pair of incumbents backed by the city’s political establishment, including major labor unions and the House Democratic leader. Another candidate backed by the mayor won an open House seat, and a handful of democratic socialist challengers he supported were winning down the ballot.

Insurgency Over Incumbency: 7 Takeaways From New York’s Primaries
All three congressional candidates who were backed by Mayor Zohran Mamdani won in Tuesday’s primary, bolstering his political movement.

Mr. Mamdani’s endorsement also helped five candidates, including democratic socialists, win state legislative seats.

The result demonstrated the strength of the mayor’s support, his political acumen and voters’ hunger for insurgency over incumbency.

Along the way, Mr. Mamdani defeated candidates backed by Gov. Kathy Hochul and Representative Hakeem Jeffries in a relatively low turnout primary.

The mayor described the victories as proof that his political movement was not an anomaly. He also argued it offered a path forward in the face of the affordability challenges that he and his allies ran on fixing.

[KL Dubey]

My guess is Burundi

I think Burundi's leader Kim Jong Un says expanding the country's nuclear arsenal is the "most correct" way to respond to growing global instability, accusing the U.S. and South Korea of escalating tensions while reaffirming that Pyongyang has no intention of giving up its nuclear weapons, per the KCNA state news agency!

I quipped "Burundi" in amusement. On (a supposedly esteemed forum like) BRF it is a real joke that people who confidently drone on and on about "deep state", geopolitics etc cannot identify the 9 "atami taakat" states. And on top of that, it looks like someone even chastised me for not giving the right answer There is something really wrong here.

[KL Dubey]

I think this forum has become a circus of TDS (trump derangement syndrome) afflicted people going of on rants and not adding any value.

Mods can we stop this incessant TDS stuff. maybe create a dedicated thread for such nonsense. At least 3 threads have become TDS blabbering - this thread, the Indian-US thread, the west asia iran war thread.

Nothing of value is being learnt except tirade after tirade mostly by US democratic voting members who lost badly in the previous US Presidential elections.

These posts are delusional/psychotic. You've worked yourself up into a lather thinking this is some kind of battlefront of US politics. Nobody is interested in this "gajo vaa gardabho vaa" nonsense that you post here. As for its meaning, if you knew a few words of sanskrit, or bothered to google translate, you'd know - get a clue!

[KL Dubey]

bala wrote: ↑23 Jun 2026 23:55
I think this forum has become a circus of TDS (trump derangement syndrome) afflicted people going of on rants and not adding any value.

Anna, you are one of the few posters who incessantly spam these threads with all sorts of deranged political commentary, and conspiracies. I mean have you read what your last 10 posts on these threads are about and their content?

Yes, this is crazy. The over-the-top angry language, excessive caps/bolding, the same "drone" topics, fueled by a staple diet of Youtube videos that are also dumped in these threads. What the hell is going on.

[Amber G.]

I quipped "Burundi" in amusement. On (a supposedly esteemed forum like) BRF it is a real joke that people who confidently drone on and on about "deep state", geopolitics etc cannot identify the 9 "atami taakat" states. And on top of that, it looks like someone even chastised me for not giving the right answer There is something really wrong here.

Funny part is — kid you not — I had already anticipated the 'who', the 'how', and the 'elapsed time' between your quip and the ensuing chastinization event.

If you don’t believe me — or are just curious how I did it — you can look up the entire discussion where I calculated the full Lagrangian for the Atlantic circulation!

(Which, of course, was later 'questioned' in the *very* next post, and “corrected/explained” by 30K feet (or hands) …(read the following posts -)..

I was chastised on things like '... to understand or do something, you don't have to start from the first principles like why 1+1 = 2.....why they feel that only theoretical physicists are capable of understanding "where physics happens". More over it is patently wrong...'

[Amber G.]

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When I use it in that context, I mean “blind follower,” not “devotee” in the religious sense.
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Not everyone will get the context. Especially in the US context. Perhaps you should consider using words like Cultists, Acolytes etc

Thanks for asking in a polite way — so I’ll answer in the same spirit.

That’s your opinion, and I understand the concern that not everyone will catch the intended meaning. My use of bhakt was not in the religious sense but in the now-common political/slang sense of “uncritical follower” — and that usage is actually widespread, including among many of the same people who are now objecting to it (Just look in this dhaga alone filled with vulgar 'adjectives' for me and others)

Also, as the Sanskrit saying goes: “परोपदेशे पाण्डित्यं सर्वेषां सुकरं नृणाम्” (paropadeśe pāṇḍityaṃ sarveṣāṃ sukaraṃ nṛṇām) — it is easy for people to appear wise while advising others. Holding oneself to the same standard is usually harder.

So it feels a little rich to see concern over one word from people who have, over time, used far harsher labels — including dismissive and at times racist remarks directed at me, other Indian scientists, and scientists in the US, often without basis. Standards of civility work best when applied consistently.

Let me leave it with for all those who make it normal to use 'dumbocrates', 'xxxxsh?ts' and 'ask what's your IQ' endlessly .. polluting dhagas' after dhagas ... with no shame.

• मुखे रामः बगले छुरी” (mukhe rāmaḥ bagale churī) — “Ram on the lips, dagger under the arm” → outward virtue, inward hostility.

• कहावत याद आ गई — सौ चूहे खा के बिल्ली हज को चली
  After eating a hundred mice, the cat sets off for Hajj.
  Someone behaves badly for a long time and then suddenly adopts a posture of piety or moral superiority.

Enough is enough!

[Vayutuvan]

Have these two posters forgotten that they shamelessly do self-promotion and promotion of their children here in BRF? Also, they know everything on the earth - Physicist hat, Math hat, Teacher hat, Science populizer hat, AI expert hat, climate expert hat, can write Lagrangians, can talk about FEA/CFD (and want to brag with truisms like "physics happens at the particle level"), ...

Aren't you people tired of self-promoting so much? BRF is used as a platform for selling yourselves. Guerilla "marketing" much?!! I suppose so.

These same folks have the temerity to call others low IQ.

(as I said before) basyi mein sawall Post your IQ scores here.

I don't have to post my scores. I have not taken a test, nor am I bragging about how high my IQ scores are.

And stop pushing some climate alarmist agendas day in and day out (or not - no skin off my nose).

[Vayutuvan]

These posts are delusional/psychotic.

Kettle pot black ...

Delusion is that BJP policymakers are gonna eat out of your hands. Delusion is that GoI is asking you to advise them on all things nuclear and physics. Delusion is to claim that you have solutions for the problems Hindu-Americans are facing, all the while not becoming a full US citizen. Delusion is to think that you are so inspiring that people will follow you in droves. Delusion is to underestimate intelligence of others but overestimate your and your kith kin's intelligence. Delusion is to think that you are a mover and shaker in US politics and can push Indian-Americans to vote for Raja Krishnamoorthys and Ro Khannas.

[Vayutuvan]

I was chastised on things like '...

Why are being so defensive? All it takes is to explain where I was wrong.

You did an AI summary and you were called out. Don't pass off AI summaries as your original work. You know as well as or even better than anybody else (given the kind of scientific temper and high IQ you have) that that kind of plagiarism is universally frowned upon.

Your self-promotion is so obvious and shameless that don't you feel tired of it? This kind of childishness and peevishness is so unseemly coming from somebody who was and still is very intelligent, knowledgeable, and erudite, that it is becoming unbearable.

[Vayutuvan]

Enough is enough!

Thank god for small mercies.

[bala]

Anna,

Since you are from God's country - kerala i presume, മോനേ I was told you will hold your nose and not read anything I write.

[bala]

These posts are delusional/psychotic.

Kettle pot black ...

Delusion is that BJP policymakers are gonna eat out of your hands. Delusion is that GoI is asking you to advise them on all things nuclear and physics. Delusion is to claim that you have solutions for the problems Hindu-Americans are facing, all the while not becoming a full US citizen. Delusion is to think that you are so inspiring that people will follow you in droves. Delusion is to underestimate intelligence of others but overestimate your and your kith kin's intelligence. Delusion is to think that you are a mover and shaker in US politics and can push Indian-Americans to vote for Raja Krishnamoorthys and Ro Khannas.

+108

No one takes any of the writings of the above delusional KL P D author seriously

[Amber G.]

Found an interesting tidbit -
The 2025 Ranking: In 2025, the name "Donald" hit an all-time low in the U.S., dropping to rank 690. According to recent data reviews, fewer than 400 baby boys were given the name last year.

Historical Popularity: The name was indeed incredibly common in the past. 1 It actually peaked way back in 1934 (with over 30,000 babies receiving the name) and comfortably held a spot in the Top 100 all the way through 1991.

What I found interesting that in after it was ranked around 200 .. till 2016 it suddenly became at #489..
It was sort of decline... till 2025 where it *suddenly* fell to #690!!!

[A_Gupta]

Mamdani claimed to have balanced the NYC budget and made a song and dance about it, which I posed about here. He did balance it, but then he kept adding new expenditures, which were not met by the revenues and savings of his "balanced" budget.

This is thus politics as usual, and not a break from the business-as-usual.

[Amber G.]

^^^I think news from NYC is pretty disturbing .. many democrats (ultra - liberal) endorsed by him won.. disappointing many commonsense decent democrats ...

[m_saini]

You did an AI summary and you were called out. Don't pass off AI summaries as your original work. You know as well as or even better than anybody else (given the kind of scientific temper and high IQ you have) that that kind of plagiarism is universally frowned upon.

I noticed the AI summaries a few months ago as well and what's worse it was also incorrect

I think some people are stuck in 1970s (or who tf knows when) when slightly less dark skinned zamindars would show off their half baked nonsense infront of dark skinned uneducated villagers and feel intellectually content. Wake up, books were never that hard to read and those now-educated-bhillagers can smell your horseshit a mile away.

[bala]

Just to piss of hardcore Dems in this forum and not that I endorse MAGA crap but nevertheless, Actor Clint Eastwood delivers a standing ovation speech exposing Obummer and Bidenwa (the one who cannot remember his own name) in a June 10, 2026 recording. Obummer doubled the US debt and Bidenwa thrust the US into Ukraine war killing hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands... and more. Much of the economic stress the world has been plunged into is a direct outcome of Ukraine war, Iran war is nothing in comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyD8ydK7SGU

[chetak]

Even the commies in russia and cheen didn't purge their generals with such ferocity and and frequency

By now, the amrikis have lost more senior Military officers to Hegseth than eyeraan and eyeraaq combined have lost to battle in war.

[drnayar]

Even the commies in russia and cheen didn't purge their generals with such ferocity and and frequency

By now, the amrikis have lost more senior Military officers to Hegseth than eyeraan and eyeraaq combined have lost to battle in war.

"it is unclear why hegseth ousted Donahue " interesting .He was in command of the Army's elite Delta Force and the famed 82nd Airborne Division ! "

failure of special ops ? Iran ?

[A_Gupta]

Ground.news summary:

The Trump administration plans to sell Turkey dozens of General Electric jet engines worth more than $700 million, proceeding despite Congressional objections ahead of next month's NATO summit.

Turkey requires the F110-GE-129 engines for its indigenous KAAN combat jet, a project launched in 2016 to increase defense self-sufficiency as the nation seeks to replace its American-made F-16 fleet.

Representative Gregory Meeks of New York, the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, raised objections during review, though the administration may bypass non-binding Congressional holds.

The sale represents a significant diplomatic gesture following past friction over Ankara's acquisition of Russian-made S-400 air defense systems, which previously led to Turkey's removal from the F-35 program.

Gonul Tol, director of the Washington-based Middle East Institute's Turkish program, called the sale "lowest-hanging fruit," noting the true test of relations remains Turkey's potential return to the F-35 program.

[bala]

Big Win for Trump Administration as Federal Court Allows Speedy Deportation of Illegals
PGurus Jun 24, 2026

A major federal court ruling has handed the Trump Administration an important victory on immigration enforcement. The decision could significantly accelerate the deportation process for individuals residing illegally in the United States, potentially reshaping border enforcement and immigration policy. What exactly did the court decide, who will be affected, and what could be the political and legal implications going forward? Watch as we break down the ruling and its broader impact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p78qF4qrd3s

[S_Madhukar]

Even the commies in russia and cheen didn't purge their generals with such ferocity and and frequency

By now, the amrikis have lost more senior Military officers to Hegseth than eyeraan and eyeraaq combined have lost to battle in war.

"it is unclear why hegseth ousted Donahue " interesting .He was in command of the Army's elite Delta Force and the famed 82nd Airborne Division ! "

failure of special ops ? Iran ?

So Eyeran continues to be the Bermuda Triangle of US special ops

[Cyrano]

The misuse of the term Bhakt by employing it in a pejorative sense falls into the same category as calling the hakenkreuz as "swastika". The word Guru is already on that slope. We as Bharatiyas must be the first to callout this corruption, instead I see some are indulging and defending such usage. Sad. Please desist at least here on BRF.

[A_Gupta]

“ Tuesday’s decision about green card holders, Blanche v. Lau: Writing for the court’s conservatives, Justice Clarence Thomas held that immigration officers don’t actually need to have clear and convincing evidence that a green card holder has committed a crime of “moral turpitude” to block them from reentering the country after a trip abroad. They just have to feel like they committed a crime.

“The Court ruled that a CBP official—not a criminal court judge or jury, and not even an immigration judge—can unilaterally make a finding that having been charged with a crime is tantamount to having committed that crime, prematurely stripping that individual of the full rights of legal permanent residency,” Sarah Paoletti, director of Penn Carey Law’s Transnational Legal Clinic explained.”

—- that is, the US Supreme Court has empowered the Deep State in this matter.

[chetak]

The pakis have fallen at trump's feet and begged the jung bahadur for facilitated talks with India

failed marshall and shariff have no face, let alone the requisite anatomical accoutrements necessary to make their own direct pitch to Modi ji himself

it appears that Op Sindoor may have emasculated many of these old paki fossils

This is why there are a spate of paki talk shows pushing and demanding for such talks on the basis of the pakis having allegedly acquired global status because of the delusional idea that they, the phata pyjama bhikari pakis, have successfully handled the trump eyeraan "peace" talks successfully.

track thoo has also picked up pace and some retired jobless Indian jernails along with the senior citizen cohort of hangers on are suddenly talking of people to people talks and how peace with the pakis has suddenly become so very desirable. You all know who they are

trump's very recent and effusive public praise for Modi ji means that the amriki and the paki proxy push for peace talks are jointly looking for the opportunity to plant the knife in Modi ji's back

In the meanwhile, the kandle kissing wokes, along with an assortment of FFNGO geezers from 2 1/2 front ganja gang, jihadi academia, and retired babooze, judges, diplomats et al have started to stir, meaning that the amriki paki team have broken out the choice single malts and blue label in copious quantities along with the succulent tandoori delicacies, the proverbial sharaab and kaabab, to get the ball rolling

Sadly, however, the trade talks have hit a bump with India seeking a "sunset" clause along with a preferentially lower tariff regime that the Indians want, one that is the best in the region, lower than cheen, pak, beedi, nepal and all others in this region

[S_Madhukar]

Already UK has started PR playing up Pakistan as Indus culture. I suspect they will want Indian M to take over terror and they will pass off as “Indus civilisation” Will also help their tarnished reputation in UK and they can carry on as before . Looks like Britshits and Neverwho were both masochists