how can a 11% reduction in 4% vote group reduce BJP seat count from 325 to 250+ ?
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 17 Oct 2022 16:10
by Aditya_V
What the above does not show is % of each group that voted, I suspect that M+ Y voted in high numbers, due to Corona plus high fuel prices + dacait type acts in 21, people in other groups voted lesser, actually 2022 UP elections was a stellar performance by BIF
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 17 Oct 2022 19:06
by gakakkad
It appears from the data above that bsp and con lost a ton which was obviously gained by sp. I think it was more consolidation of antibjp vote x sp rather than a 3 way spread that was observed in 2017.
At this point I am forced to say that Congress needs to be reasonably strong to prevent other unpredictable BIF parties from emerging . Con and aap should be vote katua of each other as infinite loop.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 17 Oct 2022 19:10
by chetak
Raghuram Rajan says "world cannot afford" India becoming a manufacturing powerhouse like China
Why? Because he says it will hurt the environment
China + Environment lobby + Indian liberal elites coming together to say that India should not have factories.....
how can a 11% reduction in 4% vote group reduce BJP seat count from 325 to 250+ ?
Larry Walker,
i have removed the image for the response. The 4% vote share of Malla, Nishad, Kewat, Kashyap is spread in many areas of UP. these votes are polled by mostly OPRajbhar who was alligned with the BJP in 2017 and in this election was with SP. According to Pradeep Singh of Aapka Akhbar analysis, OP Rajbhar had the best performnace of his party's history when he won something like 17 or 22 seats in 2017 election. he demanded more something like a hundred seats this time around and was denied. So went with SP where he also got very few seats and only 1-2 seem to have won.
In UP there seem to be a lot of parties whose influence is over a few thousand people ( a lot of parties that extends at district levels over communities and not even a state level parties that drive people to vote based on what they get offered). They might influence the voting patterns across a few segments and then demand their pound of flesh as they feel that their importance has grown. A combination of two to three such parties can drive your vote share up by a few thousand votes in few segments atleast. The VIP party in Bihar is a good example of this. the leader doesn't have any following in Bihar to win on his own, but commands a few percentage of votes in UP and was accommodated before he tried some tricks and was kicked out and his mla's who were all BJP ones just elected on his party symbol merged into BJP.
As other posters have said, this elections saw the consolidation of muslim votes towards SP where they were split with BSP last time around.Also in the areas where there was three way contest BSP seemed to have held its vote share from the backward classes this time round (while muslim yadav consolidation hurt BJP in those areas as hindu votes were split technically leading to SP victories).
So this was the best performance of the BIF in UP, there was muslim and yadav consolidation towards SP and BSP has traditionally held onto its vote bank, with infighting in BJP and covid issues all coming together for the result we have seen.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 17 Oct 2022 23:15
by kit
chetak wrote:Raghuram Rajan says "world cannot afford" India becoming a manufacturing powerhouse like China
This is the type of person who should be permanently on the NO FLY category to India. Worse than the worst are those who trash their motherland. The only ones who would be hurt are the liberandus and BIF , who he is a part of. Shameful even to mention that he was an RBI governor at one point
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 17 Oct 2022 23:50
by chetak
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 18 Oct 2022 00:27
by fanne
seriously, in a hurry i read across the a$$h***
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 18 Oct 2022 00:55
by sanjaykumar
I would be happy if a padre or a mulla read from the Gita or Christopher Hitchens.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 18 Oct 2022 01:35
by Larry Walker
Vow - so as per veshti chor Chiddu - giving up ones own religion and culture and scriptures is secularism !! I still dont understand what kind of foolish electorate we had all these years to elect imbeciles like Chidu and co.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 18 Oct 2022 02:10
by KL Dubey
kit wrote:Raghuram Rajan says "world cannot afford" India becoming a manufacturing powerhouse like China
This is the type of person who should be permanently on the NO FLY category to India. Worse than the worst are those who trash their motherland. The only ones who would be hurt are the liberandus and BIF , who he is a part of. Shameful even to mention that he was an RBI governor at one point
You mean No Fly *from* India (he will only find out when he tries to fly out back to the US). That will create a real trouble for him, by being disconnected to the US. What a shame to have such people as citizens of India!
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 18 Oct 2022 02:20
by sanjaykumar
^^ Hindus need to be non religious so others can be fanatics.
It is very simple.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 18 Oct 2022 17:00
by chetak
What a speedy transformation
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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 18 Oct 2022 19:34
by bharathp
couldnt help remember an oldjoke:
singapore ka PM bola lalu se: tum ham ko 3 saal ke liye bihaar dedo hum usko singapore banadenge
lalu bola: tum 3 din ke liye singapore hum ko dedo hum usko bihar bana denge aur itna mehnat ke baad yaha bhi wheel chain mein baith jayenge
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 18 Oct 2022 21:05
by chetak
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 19 Oct 2022 05:22
by vijayk
KirenRijju today said Collegium is not fair. There is no transparency.
They are not accountable to people and appointment of judges is Executive responsibility
Indian cricket board’s secretary says tournament, scheduled to be held in Pakistan, will take place at neutral venue.
18 Oct 2022
The Indian cricket team will not travel to Pakistan for the Asia Cup next year, the Asian Cricket Council (ACC) president has said.
Jay Shah, who is also secretary of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), said on Tuesday that the tournament will be held at a neutral venue.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 20 Oct 2022 03:25
by vimal
This made so much sense when we see peacefuls take inordinate amount of resources with nothing to show for it.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 20 Oct 2022 06:30
by chetak
Shefali Vaidya.@ShefVaidya
Lol, #blastfromthepast. Watch@ShekharGupta and Radia Veer Sanghvi describe @RahulGandhi as a ‘measured and mature politician who never has to regret or take back anything he says’. I am NOT kidding. Do watch never gets old!
This is what precipitated it. It's payback time ..
I know sir. That's why I said it is the typical paki brilliance.. any other country would have complained to the governing body, asked for India to be one to be penalized / debarred..
This is like the old Russell Peters skit about the Iraqis/Yanks
"You want to kill me ?? F#$k you, I kill me"
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 20 Oct 2022 07:31
by chetak
Manish_P wrote:
chetak wrote:...
This is what precipitated it. It's payback time ..
I know sir. That's why I said it is the typical paki brilliance.. any other country would have complained to the governing body, asked for India to be one to be penalized / debarred..
This is like the old Russell Peters skit about the Iraqis/Yanks
"You want to kill me ?? F#$k you, I kill me"
Manish_P ji,
the modi govt is playing the long game.
This is a bolt from the blue for the pakis but merely a well gamed move by India.
the pakis have again been shown their aukat.
Pakistan says that resuming trade/talks with India will be like “insulting the sacrifices of Kashmiris”. Absolutely no talks till India takes back articles 370 & 35A.
Par jab cricket ki baat aayi tou inke muh mein paani aa gaya..
न बिवी न बछा न
बाप बड़ा न माइयाँ
थे व्होले थिंग इस थाट के
भैया सबसे बड़ा रुपैया
from the net
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 20 Oct 2022 08:23
by Manish_P
chetak wrote:...
Par jab cricket ki baat aayi tou inke muh mein paani aa gaya..
...
Chetak sir, no doubt but it isn't only the rupaiha per se.. the thing with kirket is that it was a very visible medium for the pakis to show their awaam the superiority of islam over the SDREs. The defeats would always be conveniently blamed on match throwing by few TFTAs who were tempted by the rich, cunning baniyas..
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 20 Oct 2022 22:01
by chetak
not bad for a country so low down on the hunger/happiness index
not bad at all for @nsitharamanoffc who has single handed tanked the Indian economy per the congis, commies and the clueless urban naxals
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 20 Oct 2022 22:38
by chetak
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 21 Oct 2022 14:01
by Cyrano
These reports and indexes are just tools for continuing western meddling on other countries. Its time India created it's own research institutes and published global. indices on various topics like - Racial equity, - Drug addiction, - Freedom of press, - stability of family, - cost of higher education, -value delivered by medical insurance, - food wastage, - how the society treats the elderly, -Govt corruption, -Rightwing violence, -violenec against women, -incest & pedophily etc etc...
And take out full page ads now and then in western media like NYT, WaPo, Time, Newsweek etc and publish results zooming on how the western countries are doing. The trouble created is well worth the money spent. Just increase visa fees, tax west HQd companies a bit more and call it "equity tax".
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 21 Oct 2022 16:42
by SRajesh
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/l ... 2022-10-20
Here we go: the ‘Bandgala Changing’ while ‘Mumbai was Burning’ says Jihad taught by all religions
Now he is a lingayat (so is he first a Hindu or a Minority)
Is this as per his knowledge limited to major denominations or all
Because the communist (both Mao and Stalin together) have killed more in the name of equal rights than any religion
Mongols built the largest empire the world has seen on love and bhai- chara!!
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 21 Oct 2022 18:18
by Aditya_V
Rsatchi wrote:https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/l ... 2022-10-20
Here we go: the ‘Bandgala Changing’ while ‘Mumbai was Burning’ says Jihad taught by all religions
Now he is a lingayat (so is he first a Hindu or a Minority)
Is this as per his knowledge limited to major denominations or all
Because the communist (both Mao and Stalin together) have killed more in the name of equal rights than any religion
Mongols built the largest empire the world has seen on love and bhai- chara!!
Don't forget Mumbai 2006, Hyderabad 2007,Delhi blasts etc. Many hundreds perished in bomb blasts in the country while UPA 1 slept
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 22 Oct 2022 13:42
by S_Madhukar
All these economic problems and malice indicators are about our lefty population feeling left out (rightly out!) of the previous govt handouts, after all they are the eyes and ears and hands for these agencies. So yes they are collectively getting poorer
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 22 Oct 2022 17:38
by chetak
ye log joothiya किसको बना रहा है
haven't these guys ever heard of sar tan....... or the hate speeches of the dravidian frocked worthies in TN
or is all forgiven just because they are abrahamics
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 22 Oct 2022 17:59
by RoyG
chetak wrote:ye log joothiya किसको बना रहा है
haven't these guys ever heard of sar tan....... or the hate speeches of the dravidian frocked worthies in TN
or is all forgiven just because they are abrahamics
What is referred to as c-system, which is simply a collusion of special interest, has migrated to the only institution left shielded from the executive by the constitution. This is why it will only get worse as other areas of the state machinery improve.
Just like everything else it will eventually have to be restructured.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 23 Oct 2022 11:46
by chetak
UK supermarket chain finalising plans to sell INSECTS as food for people struggling to afford food amid inflation.
Australia planning to offer Nutritious Insects to Students for meals.
Bharat Feeding 80 Crore population FREE since March 2020 & ranked lower in Global Hunger Index.
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never gets old!
