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^^ Good one. Dil khush ho gaya :)
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Very sad of the act act of vandalism by the loony hindu fringe. :lol: What is happening to the country. :D where is the police when you need them. :twisted: Oh.... I forgot........... They are shivering in their dhoties with the prospect of the AFSPA being withdrawn. :P

So any action to save the pious terrorist stone throwing instigator will be seen as a human right violation by the fellow travelers of the pious. So the police in order tosave it self stayed at home. :twisted:

Ps: on a serious note. Why did the joker feel the need to leave the Cashmier valley and visit Chandighar.
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Baharon phooldaste barsao,
Ke Mirwaiz aur Lone aaye hain!
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Janab Mir is currently babbling on Ariya Tv
apparently he was slapped few times his topi was snatched and most damaging to H & D
they pulled his beard.
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niran wrote:...and most damaging to H & D they pulled his beard.
Was it fistful according to regulations? I am sorry. If the adminullahs think this is inappropriate, please delete my post!
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Pratyush wrote:Ps: on a serious note. Why did the joker feel the need to leave the Cashmier valley and visit Chandighar.
:lol: Can some one confirm if IB or R&AW was behind this act of misleading poor Mirwaiz to land up in Chandigarh and start his verbal diarrhoea, fully knowing that chances of him getting beaten up were very high??
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Sachin,

That will have been be seriously Chanikian
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Sachin wrote:
Pratyush wrote:Ps: on a serious note. Why did the joker feel the need to leave the Cashmier valley and visit Chandighar.
:lol: Can some one confirm if IB or R&AW was behind this act of misleading poor Mirwaiz to land up in Chandigarh and start his verbal diarrhoea, fully knowing that chances of him getting beaten up were very high??
What is the connection of Punjab with the Kashmir groups who also interact with lobby groups in US

We need to watch what is the lobby group which usually works with Sen Kerry and the Punjab groups in US and this latest series of seminars which are going on.

D-Punjab in Democratic party in US is becoming more clout and may have started supporting the Kashmir group since money is flowing. These groups may be funding these seminars in all the cities inside India.
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On Twitter, one can find pro-Khalistani terrorists opposing slapping of MirMoron Umar Farooq by Chandigarh citizens. All in all, a nice show in Punjab. We should however be tracking who is sponsoring all these random anti-India talk shows. The mammoth establishment might surely be knowing. Suddenly one sees Sonia acting piety reminding opposition of emulating the ways CONgress is fighting elections. Interesting times!
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There was a CNN IBN report on this "scuffle". The dumbos were saying that VHP attacked Mirwaiz [pbuh].That is, not a single mention of Pandits. The report is titled "Free Speech vs Hooliganism" :roll:
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I've always loved the City Beautiful. What a delightful way to return my love ! Thank you Chandigarh. :)

Beard wouldn't be fistful. He trims it. Most of Harried Rat clowns are clean shaven or keep short beards onlee.
On a side note, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq is one of comparatively moderate types. I only wish this courtesy is extended to rest of these two-timing KMs and Arundhati types that infest rest of India.


Jammu city will host an event in memory of 26/11 attack.
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jamwal wrote: I only wish this courtesy is extended to rest of these two-timing KMs and Arundhati types that infest rest of India.
It's bound to happen sooner than later.

There seems to be an orchestration of anti India rhetoric by these separatist and naxal types. Something is brewing for sure.

Fitting response and well deserved too.
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humre taraf se bhi do to lagao

ek...Bharat Mata ki Jai...chappaatt
do...Bharat Mata ki Jai...gibhaaakk
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anupmisra wrote:
niran wrote:...and most damaging to H & D they pulled his beard.
Was it fistful according to regulations? I am sorry. If the adminullahs think this is inappropriate, please delete my post!
could not tell, almost fell off laughing when i heard him babbling
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jamwal wrote:On a side note, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq is one of comparatively moderate types. I only wish this courtesy is extended to rest of these two-timing KMs and Arundhati types that infest rest of India.

I've see this description of him over & over again. Why is he called a moderate? What is moderate about demanding secession from India?
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A moderate merely cheers when the blasts happen. A hardliner makes the blasts happen.
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These displays of violence while causes jingoes to go up and down, is actually an editorial on a sad state of affairs. The silence of the silent middle and inaction by the government will eventually force even a pacifist to react. Sad day for India!
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Is there any public reference to who the organizers were for this Mirwaiz conference - need to identify these people...
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http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mirwa ... r/715944/0
Commotion broke out when the activists from the audience charged at Farooq, who was seated on the dais along with Lone. At that time, a person, believed to be a journalist, had got up to ask a question to the Mirwaiz.

During the pandemonium, some of the activists manhandled the two separatist leaders, eyewitnesses said, adding police immediately stepped in and cordoned off the dais.

Eyewitnesses said in the melee, the activists punched the Mirwaiz in the face, who fell from his chair.
{whooo! thats a knock out punch} :rotfl:

The incident comes over a month after a shoe was thrown at hardline Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani during a seminar in Delhi on October 21. The shoe missed Geelani, who was seated on the dais. The seminar had also witnessed protests by a group of people including Kashmiri Pandits.
{they changed the tactics this time to leave no chance.} :D
Commenting on the incident, Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah said, "It is a reaction to their politics and policies. And it is bound to happen. I don't condone it... I believe it is a battle of ideas and ideologies."
:rotfl: {i accuse him for encouraging and instigating violence against moderate unarmed fellow 'patriots'} :rotfl:

The seminar was on 'Kashmir Problems in Reference to Indo-Pak Relations', organised by Internationalist Democratic Party of Jammu and Kashmir.
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Commenting on the incident, Jammu and Kashmir Chief Minister Omar Abdullah said, "It is a reaction to their politics and policies. And it is bound to happen. I don't condone it... I believe it is a battle of ideas and ideologies."
Did he really say that? Unbeleivable.
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Anindya wrote:Is there any public reference to who the organizers were for this Mirwaiz conference - need to identify these people...
From
Kanson wrote:http://www.indianexpress.com/news/mirwa ... r/715944/0

The seminar was on 'Kashmir Problems in Reference to Indo-Pak Relations', organised by Internationalist Democratic Party (IDP) of Jammu and Kashmir.
And from we have this

The IDP favours politics of peace. The party also favours joint Indo-Pakistani control over Kashmir as a means to achieve peace. The party also favours increased autonomy for the Jammu and Ladakh regions.
We have heard of the bolded part before haven't we?
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Climbing the career ladder from 'stone-pelters' to 'militant' http://www.indianexpress.com/news/alarm ... s/716169/0
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Raghavendra wrote:Climbing the career ladder from 'stone-pelters' to 'militant' http://www.indianexpress.com/news/alarm ... s/716169/0

Good they will squeal like Pigs when caught and provide Security forces with tons of information, including that about the die hard jihadi's who were being slaughtered instead of being captured.

Should lead to big catches in near future.
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In fact, the Sopore police is searching for two militants from Chechnya, identified as Usman and Umar — the first time, police claim, Chechens have come to operate in Kashmir.
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Climbing the career ladder from 'stone-pelters' to 'militant' http://www.indianexpress.com/news/alarm ... s/716169/0
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CRamS wrote:
jamwal wrote:On a side note, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq is one of comparatively moderate types. I only wish this courtesy is extended to rest of these two-timing KMs and Arundhati types that infest rest of India.

I've see this description of him over & over again. Why is he called a moderate? What is moderate about demanding secession from India?
Moderate in comparison to Geelani, Lone. He doesn't favour merger with Pakistan as Geelani does. Some of his statements have been somewhat positive from Indian POV.
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Ashley Kravitz wrote:There was a CNN IBN report on this "scuffle". The dumbos were saying that VHP attacked Mirwaiz [pbuh].That is, not a single mention of Pandits. The report is titled "Free Speech vs Hooliganism" :roll:
After the Niira Radia tapes, we now know how these newsmen & newswomen can be manipulated. Paid news in full glow here.
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jamwal wrote:Moderate in comparison to Geelani, Lone. He doesn't favour merger with Pakistan as Geelani does. Some of his statements have been somewhat positive from Indian POV.
He still favors secession. What is "moderate" about that. Any quotes you can provide attributed to him that are positive from India's POV?

Everyone one of them are Isalmic fascists, perpetuating India's travails in Kashmir, nothing moderate about them.
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CRS,

The diffrence is that Mirwaz is a gandhian as defined by Arundhati Roy. The others are Ghazis as defined by the TSP. I hope you understand this very Important distinction.
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I'm not saying that he is a good guy, just not as bad as others.
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Jamwal,

Any one who supports the breaking up the country for what ever reasons is a bad guy. Regardless of the methods being used by him/ them. To acheave the end. In that respect they are all the same.

I have a simple solution for these people," The enemies of the republic must die". But since we are a peace loving, Human rights respecting nation it is too much to ask. So we must endure this nonsense.

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You echo my feelings
But still, I think you guys need to distinguish between different players in the game. Relying too much on such simplistic solutions backfires sometimes. Everybody is not identical.

Mirwaiz is a religious title and he has made some right noises in the past, very different from other Harried Rats. He is kind of head figure of the Kashmiri Mullahs and holds considerable influence over KMs. Try reading about his father and how he was assassinated. India needs to cultivate people on the other side who are not completely mad. Getting people like him on our side will help in negating influence of Geelani faction. If I'm not very wrong, Geelani faction has been in the forefront of anti-India, pro-terrorist protests in Kashmir, while Mirwaiz O Farooq had opposed them in some way.
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jamwal.. u seem to have got it totally wrong.

u may see a distinction but the goal of all these ( geelani, mirawiz etc) is the same. .ie breakup of india.. they are all furthering paki agenda under different disguises... and frankly if u ask me i consider Mirawiz more dangerous since he looks reasonable !! to people including u.

we need to give no quarter to these folks.. they need to be tackled ruthlessly but that is too much to ask from indian govt.
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http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20101127/j&k.htm#4
LeT camps active in Pak, says militant
Puncturing Pakistan's claims about the dismantling of the terror infrastructure in the wake of 26/11 Mumbai attacks, an arrested militant from across the border today said training camps of the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and other outfits were still active on its soil.

Mohammad Saleem Rehmani, alias Abu Saad, who was arrested by the police from the Panzan area in Budgam district, 20 km from here, told reporters that inspite of the crackdown launched by the Pakistani authorities, the militant training camps were active in various parts of the country and occupied Kashmir (PoK).

“There were about 250 to 300 militants training with me during the Daura-e-Khas (special or advance course) who are being trained in handling weapons and launching attacks on the security forces in Kashmir," Rehmani, who infiltrated into the valley a few months ago, said.

He said the permanent training camps, which were operating in Pakistan before the attacks on Mumbai in 2008 had been sealed, but makeshift camps had been set up in forests where training was being imparted these days.

Rehmani, who hails from the Nawab Shah area of the Sindh province of Pakistan, was part of an eight-member LeT group which infiltrated into Kashmir from the Lolab sector in Kupwara district.
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60 govt employees held for fuelling unrest in Valley
The state police has arrested 60 government employees, out of a total of 135, who were allegedly involved in fuelling unrest in the Valley recently. “We have identified 135 government employees and 60 odd have been arrested so far,” IG, Kashmir, SM Sahai told reporters here.

He was responding to a question about the involvement of some government employees in the five-month unrest that left over 100 persons dead and thousands others injured. Sahai said seven employees had been booked under the Public Safety Act (PSA), which provides for the detention of a person up to two years without trial.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20101127/j&k.htm#9
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jamwal wrote:
Mirwaiz is a religious title and he has made some right noises in the past, very different from other Harried Rats. He is kind of head figure of the Kashmiri Mullahs and holds considerable influence over KMs. Try reading about his father and how he was assassinated. India needs to cultivate people on the other side who are not completely mad. Getting people like him on our side will help in negating influence of Geelani faction. If I'm not very wrong, Geelani faction has been in the forefront of anti-India, pro-terrorist protests in Kashmir, while Mirwaiz O Farooq had opposed them in some way.
These guys appear moderate when the hardline faction is dominant. Once the hardline become irrelevant then 'moderate' people will start becoming hardline.
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The only 2 moderates I can think of past decade are Abdul Ghani Lone, and Masjid Dar. (For a while Shabi Shah appeared on the mend, but very quickly withdrew perhaphs after a dressing down from ISI). Both believed TSP-sponsored terror was getting them nowhere and it is time to cut a deal with India. But they met their fate at ISI's hands. Both junior Lone, and Mirwaiz who fathers were ISI victims still dance to ISI tunes.
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It is hard to believe that the son who lost his father to an entity will toe the line of the same entity when taking over his father's position.

The fact that the father was killed by the ISI should have caused the sons to completely break ranks from the ISI and go indipendent. But we find that it is not the case.
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go independent :-)))) not when he knows there is a 'bumboo' up his posterior.

incidentally my friend accosted Mirawiz today at Maurya Sheraton Delhi today and gave some choicest abuses in the hotel lobby... !!
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Kashmir is politically settled issue: Kashmiri Pandits http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20101127/14 ... sue_1.html
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