Bharat Rakshak

Muppalla wrote: I wrote in this fast moving thread that this movement is clearly being used by Congress party to create a national level manchurian party like the once they experimented at state level (Chiru, Gondar, MNS etc.) duing 2009 elections.

gakakkad wrote:^^^ reading error. But even though it is slightly cheaper , still you can't get much in 88 lakh.

chaanakya wrote:eklavya's point is correct. It is not the current market price of the asset but the price at which acquired and if from legitimate sources of income that is important. If the purchase price at the time did not reflect the true value t that time then it is questionable. I know in Delhi Mukherjee Nagar one could get SFS flats in Rs 5L back then but same flat would cost much more now. Its price appreciation and not acquisition by corrupt means.

Whatever one may say about PM , he is certainly not corrupt personally. That is what is keeping CON Party from total rout.

RamaY wrote:
Then why can't they declare the current market prices now? What are they afraid of, people's perception?

That is a common theme across whole nation. A poor man's 5 acre lot near Hyderabad ORR was less than Rs 5lakhs in 2000. The same land is worth Rs 100crore during the boom period.

Media uses one value to put propaganda spin, where as Netas use the other extreme to show they are honest.

eklavya wrote:
1) Is the PM responsible? Of course, he is.
2) Did he make even Rs.1 from the CWG disaster? I have not seen any evidence to suggest that he did.

I would rather have 1 honest man in Government than a Government full of bandits. When the Government has more people like Dr. Singh and fewer people like "the typical corrupt politician", the better it will be for India.

RoyG wrote:Unless we see corrupted politicians trembling on TV and fleeing the country in their luxury jets nothing is going to happen. I also believe this whole Anna movement was a diversionary tactic by the congress

Muppalla wrote:

Highlights of a STAR News-Nielsen survey of nearly 9,000 people across 28 cities after Anna Hazare called off his fast (all figures in percentage):

Who will you vote for? BJP:32 INC:20
Who was to blame for poor handling of Hazare movement? MMS:28 others:64
Would SG have handled better? No:54 Yes:40
Is it time for RG to take over as PM? No:54, Yes:39

If Hazare and Rahul faced off, who would you vote for? Hazare:78 Rahul:1

This whole Nielsen survey being reported in the press has a lot of sinster design. First of all it is a common knowledge in the media and also grapevine that Nielsen is the hired agency of Congress party to conduct surveys for its political and domestic policy

Just as any politico, he is no different, he gets in the mud slinging and all the tricks that a politician indulges. He just does that in a refined way probably wearing armani suit. Most people are comfortable and get duped by conmen in suit and tie, versus by one who is an attire worn such as by lalu.

Nelson is a very reputable organization. Often political parties hire their services, that does not mean Neilson skews the surveys. Anything but. Unless one can substantiate the allegations, doing so only raises the questions about the credibility of the accuser.

The more I read and understand, the more it becomes clear that the INC is invincible, simply put.

RamaY wrote:Chanakya garu,

Can you please compare the asset declaration of MMS in his MP nomination forms and latest asset declarations?

Thanks

chaanakya wrote:eklavya's point is correct. It is not the current market price of the asset but the price at which acquired and if from legitimate sources of income that is important. If the purchase price at the time did not reflect the true value t that time then it is questionable. I know in Delhi Mukherjee Nagar one could get SFS flats in Rs 5L back then but same flat would cost much more now. Its price appreciation and not acquisition by corrupt means.

Whatever one may say about PM , he is certainly not corrupt personally. That is what is keeping CON Party from total rout.

Sept. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Few people in their right mind would find any good in a $31 billion loss. In India’s case, it may just be the best thing that has happened in a very long time.
Let’s flash forward 20 years to what school kids will learn about recent events. Sure, they may hear about Anna Hazare, the anti-corruption activist whose hunger strike shamed a government. More than anything, they may learn than Hazare was a symbol of the national sense of disgust over an opaque phone- license deal that squandered $31 billion.Things began reaching a fever pitch in June, when police used teargas and batons to break up an anti-graft protest in New Delhi and evict yoga guru Swami Ramdev, who had joined the movement. Hazare’s hunger strike got more attention, partly because of the government’s ham-handed response.
Arresting Hazare was just plain nutty. So was Singh, once a highly respected development economist, in attacking anti-graft protests as a danger to India’s democracy. Singh showed that he had missed the point completely. The whole reason for the public anger is that India’s democracy is failing the masses.The parallels between the Indian and U.S. Tea parties reflect public anger at elites, rather than the substance of their grievances. Most Indians don’t want the government out of their lives -- they want it to do better by them. Indians are less antagonistic toward public spending than their American counterparts and instead demand that it benefit the broader economy.As in the U.S., India’s version of the Tea Party seemed to come out of nowhere to alter the political landscape in sudden and unpredictable ways. For too many years, politicians pooh- poohed the need to clean up India

nukavarapu wrote: And that makes him even more worse than the people who are corrupt. A person, who just wants to be in the good books of everyone, especially his party members, gets into a highly authoritative position and turns a blind eye to everything wrong happens under his hood. Why? So that he looks like an angel in eyes of both the saints and the demons? What good is that person? If he knew he can't do anything about the malice, why did he accept the position to begin with?

devesh wrote:the whole "tea party" business is very curious. this is interesting social engineering. are they trying to define Indian movement on American terms? or are they trying to give a false sheen to the American Tea Party by associating it with catch words like "Gandhian", "non violence", etc???

Hari Seldon wrote:^^^ Is that hope speaking or is it knowledge?

nukavarapu wrote:

Sanku wrote: +1000

It would be a good thing, if people knew how the systems work rather than go all over the place.

Everyone knows my deep "love" for Manmohan here already I think, and trying to attack Manmohan for personal corruption for petty sort is counterproductive.

Manmohan's corruption is far more deeper, more insidious, and more harrowing, of how a self-serving babu can fall to any extent to just get the next "promotion"

His is the corruption of the Indian middle classes, who happily support and benefit from corruption as long as their "accounts" are clean, and dont really care about what happens as a result of their actions, nor want to know and care.

And that makes him even more worse than the people who are corrupt. A person, who just wants to be in the good books of everyone, especially his party members, gets into a highly authoritative position and turns a blind eye to everything wrong happens under his hood. Why? So that he looks like an angel in eyes of both the saints and the demons? What good is that person? If he knew he can't do anything about the malice, why did he accept the position to begin with? He should have made a cautious decision to stick to Finance Ministry, but the dream to lead the country was too glittering. And now we the masses are left with the sorry excuse that whatever happened, happened without his consent and on top of it, we have his bank statements showing his obsession with cleanliness. God bless my country !!!

Uttar Pradesh's chief minister Mayawati styles herself as saviour of the country's "untouchables" sent her private jet to pick up a pair of sandals, according to leaked US diplomatic cables. US embassy cables from 2007 to 2009 released by the WikiLeaks website in recent days
describe Mayawati, 55, as "a first-rate egomaniac" who "is obsessed with becoming prime minister".

They said Mayawati celebrated her birthday each year by receiving millions of dollars in gifts from "sycophantic party members, civil servants and business people" while officials vie for a chance to feed her cake.

"When she needed new sandals, her private jet flew empty to Mumbai to retrieve her preferred brand," a cable dated October 23, 2008 reported, adding she employed food tasters to guard against poisoning.

"She constructed a private road from her residence to her office, which is cleaned immediately after her multiple vehicle convoy reaches its destination," the cable said in an analysis of her "eccentricities, whims and insecurities".

It added an account of Mayawati making a state minister do sit-ups in front of her as punishment for a minor protocol error, and reported it cost $250,000 to run as a BSP parliamentary candidate due to "institutionalized corruption".

Announcing his second round of yatra against black money, Ramdev said he will be starting the same from Jhansi in Uttar Pradesh from September 20.

"We will begin second round of our movement to bring back black money stashed in foreign banks from September 20 in Jhansi in Uttar Pradesh. The Yatra will go to all neighbouring cities and states," he confirmed.

Murugan wrote:Baba is Back

http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/ba ... 29740.html

Expressing sadness over media reports doing rounds pertaining to ED tightening its noose around him, the yoga guru said that he had done a tremendous “service to the nation by protecting the heritage of Ayurveda in all its purity and have been treating people of various ailments for the past twenty years.”

On a dramatic note he added, “I work 365 days a year. I have no personal life. I have no bank accounts in my name. I also do not have an inch of land in my name.” He put forth the question, “What is wrong with that?”

Baba Ramdev lamented, “Nationalists are being humiliated in this country. I have not done anything to bring down the name of my country.”

One of India’s most powerful mining barons, whose political clout and wealth have made him a controversial national figure, was arrested on Monday as investigators raided his offices and seized about $1 million in cash and more than 40 pounds of gold.

Until recently, G. Janardhana Reddy was a kingmaker in the southern state of Karnataka, where his family and allies once dominated key ministries in the state government. From his base in the Bellary district, home to some of India’s richest reserves of iron ore, Mr. Reddy controlled lucrative mining leases and reportedly made millions of dollars exporting ore to China and elsewhere.

“It was a mafia-like system,” said N. Santosh Hegde, a former justice on India’s Supreme Court who spent more than two years investigating illegal mining in Karnataka as an independent state-level ombudsman. “That district had become the Republic of Bellary. It is not part of India.”

Mr. Reddy’s arrest comes as public disgust over official corruption has boiled over in India. Hundreds of thousands of protesters took to the streets last month to support a hunger strike by the anticorruption campaigner, Anna Hazare, a pressure campaign that forced Indian leaders to capitulate to many of Mr. Hazare’s demands over the shape of a proposed independent anticorruption agency.

Mr. Reddy and his brothers were once political organizers who traveled on scooters to work on behalf of the Bharatiya Janata Party, or B.J.P. Their political work and the money they raised for political campaigns helped the B.J.P win control of the state government, while entrenching the family as the political kingpins of Bellary. Rivals complained that Mr. Reddy used his political power for his own competitive advantage in dominating the mining and transport of iron ore.

Mr. Hegde, who recently stepped down from his ombudsman role in Karnataka, released a scathing report last July that concluded that illegal mining had cost the state treasury more than $3.5 billion in tax revenues. In his report, Mr. Hegde said the Reddy brothers had created an entire system to avoid paying royalties to the government, while also taking a cut from any ore shipped, illegally or legally, out of Karnataka.

Mr. Reddy has consistently denied any wrongdoing. But his power was so vast that his political allies once nearly brought down the state government — run by his own party — to protest a plan to increase taxes on shipments of ore. Eventually, though, Mr. Reddy became an embarrassment for national B.J.P. leaders. And in Karnataka, the mining scandals forced the resignation of the former B.J.P. chief minister, B.S. Yeddyurappa.

Even today, Mr. Reddy’s political influence is potent inside Karnataka. State authorities have yet to take any legal action against any of the people named in Mr. Hegde’s report. Meanwhile, Mr. Reddy’s arrest on Monday was carried about by investigators in the neighboring state of Andhra Pradesh.

Ten federal agents took him from his home in Bellary district early on Monday.

Mining baron and former Karnataka Minister G Janardhan Reddy and Managing Director of Obalapuram Mining Company B V Srinivas Reddy were today arrested by CBI after searches at their premises allegedly led to seizure of over 30 kg of gold and more than Rs 4.5 crore in cash.

A 15-member CBI team from Hyderabad conducted searches at Janardhana Reddy's house and claimed to have seized Rs three crore in cash and over 30 kgs of gold, official sources alleged.

A sum of Rs 1.5 crore was also seized from the residence of Reddy's brother-in-law Srinivasa Reddy, who is also the Managing Director of the company owned by the Reddy family, they claimed.

"Janardhana Reddy and Srinivasa Reddy have been arrested under Prevention of Corruption Act and we are taking them to Hyderabad", CBI DIG P V Lakshminarayana, who is heading the team, told reporters in Bellary.

The arrests came in connection with the cases filed by CBI against the Reddy brothers in Andhra Pradesh, the sources said, adding both were expected to be produced before a special CBI court in Hyderabad later in the day.

Even as the CBI team escorted the Reddys to Hyderabad, the agency continued searches at Janardhana Reddy's residence in Bellary and Bangalore.

A team questioned Aruna Lakshmi, wife of Janardhana Reddy in Bellary, and another conducted searches at his residence in Bangalore, they said.

sanjeevpunj wrote:Wonder if there are any Prime Ministers in this world,owning just a run down 800 cc car?

PTI
RALEGAN SIDDHI: Anna Hazare has hit out at Digvijay Singh for stating that the RSS was actively involved in promoting his anti-corruption movement, saying the Congress general secretary should be admitted to a mental hospital.
“I have said this earlier also that people like Singh should be put in ‘Yeravada’, (a well known place in Pune housing a government mental hospital),” Hazare told reporters on Monday when asked about his reaction on Singh’s comment.
The 74-year-old Gandhian said he was determined to continue his fight for the passage of a strong Lokpal bill in Parliament to curb corruption in the country.
Hazare reiterated that his close associate Arvind Kejriwal was a “clean man” who was being targeted by the government, adding that the latter was not a person who would commit irregularities for temptation of money.
The social activist, later addressing a group of his supporters, said his fight was against corruption and “goonda” elements practising it.
He urged the people to be ready to come on the streets for ‘jail bharo’ whenever a call is given for the next agitation.
“The fight is going to be a long one and the path is strewn with thorns but we have to walk on it to make India corruption free,” he said.
The anti-graft crusader said he had regained 4.5 kg out of 7 kg which he lost during his 12 day fast at Delhi’s Ramlila Maidan and was on way to full recovery to pursue his goals.
“I am treating my body as an instrument of God to achieve my goal of a corruption free India,” he added.
A heavy security blanket comprising commandos and armed security men in plain clothes has been thrown around the guest house where Anna has stayed put since his arrival here after being discharged from a Gurgaon hospital on conclusion of his fast.