Bharat Rakshak

Rony wrote:This is how the saudi barbarians treat the pakis and bangladeshis and yet these morons treat the Arabs as next only to Allah ! What a shameless creatures these pakis and beedis are !

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His successor, Muhammad Zaheer-ul-Islam, has made no similar public pronouncements, but there are signs his thinking isn’t far different. The ISI’s media and political divisions have been revitalised. Its Kashmir operations division, led by Zaheer-ul-Islam appointee Major-General Isfandiyar Ali Khan Pataudi, is also going through a thorough-going reorganisation. India’s intelligence services fear the organisation could resume more aggressive support for jihadist groups in coming months.

History offers some insight into which of these two tendencies might win. Indians — and not a few Pakistanis —harbour the illusion that Pakistan is a secular state besieged by religious extremists. In fact, the Pakistani state’s secularism disintegrated in 1973, a year scholar Ali Eteraz has described as the country’s “Iran moment”. The Constitution brought into force that year decreed that “sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone.” The state was, among other things, enjoined to promote “observance of the Islamic moral standards”.

From the work of scholars like C. Christine Fair, we know this: Pakistan’s officer corps is increasingly drawn not from the traditional elite, but from the same social classes behind the country’s resurgent religious right. Though modernist in its embrace of private sector education, women’s literacy and technology, the new middle class which makes up the backbone of the army is also profoundly authoritarian and anti-democratic in its politics — using Islam as a language to assert claims to political power, and build the social alliances needed to deliver it.

Over 100 Taliban fighters crossed over from Afghanistan and attacked military posts in Upper Dir area of northwest Pakistan, triggering clashes that left eight soldiers and 15 militants dead, officials said today. Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said the Afghan Taliban carried out the attacks.

The Pakistani Taliban helped with reconnaissance and information before the attack, Ehsan told CNN.

submit their requests at least 12 working days in advance for security clearance.

all NGO and aid workers travelling to Peshawar and Tribal Areas

nor would they be permitted to contact or take an interview with tribal elders

foreigners would not be allowed to carry any weapon or prohibited material during their journey

Dean of Academics Dr Younus Javed on Sunday said that co- and extra-curricular activities play a very important role in building a sound personality and a successful human being.

This is how we will grow as a nation

SSridhar wrote:The high church attacks the low church PA and kills 8 of them

Over 100 Taliban fighters crossed over from Afghanistan and attacked military posts in Upper Dir area of northwest Pakistan, triggering clashes that left eight soldiers and 15 militants dead, officials said today. Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan said the Afghan Taliban carried out the attacks.

The Pakistani Taliban helped with reconnaissance and information before the attack, Ehsan told CNN.

Anujan wrote:

SSridhar wrote:The high church attacks the low church PA and kills 8 of them

What was not reported is that a Captain and 5 TFTAs were lined up and beheaded!!

Anujan wrote:What was not reported is that a Captain and 5 TFTAs were lined up and beheaded!!

schmidt of googal wrote:The Army Generals explained the difference between fundamentalism (which they support) and extremism (which they fight),

Raja Bose wrote: http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/5 ... NTPAGE%7Cp

militants from Afghanistan crossed the border in the northwestern Pakistan's Upper Dir region Sunday night and clashed with Pakistan forces on a patrol.
militants cross from pakistan to afghanistan to kill NATO farces. militants from Afghanistan cross the border to kill paki farces. Perhaps Pakis should use their superior drone afghan terrorists same way as amrikhans are doing on this side


"We have strongly protested and I will, too, God willing, talk about this to Karzai," said Ashraf, speaking in Karachi.
If Karzai doesn't answer the phone that means God was not willing to listen to Pakis

The deputy border police commander for eastern Afghanistan, Maj. Mohammad Ayub Hassainkhail, said the Pakistani military informed police Monday that one of their patrols was missing. He said they told the Pakistani officials they had no information about any Pakistani military near their checkpoints, but said it is a long border.
There were no Paki farces at the checkpoint, so no body can miss. BTW, why would Paki farces approach Afghan police for missing people? Were they worried about defections? Does it mean Afghans are greener than Paki greens

"They have plenty of militants on their side. Why would the militants cross over from Afghanistan? I strongly reject this claim that any militants crossed over from Afghanistan to Pakistan and did this," he said.


In another development elsewhere in the troubled region, a top Pakistani Taliban commander in South Waziristan said Monday that he would not allow any polio vaccinations in his territory until the U.S. stops drone attacks in the region. Maulvi Nazir said in a statement emailed to reporters that all organizations doing immunizations should stop immediately.
What is the relationship between drone attacks and polio vaccinations?
A: Taliban

suspicion in Pakistan ever since it became known that a Pakistani doctor ran a fake vaccination program to help the CIA track down Osama bin Laden.
Now I understand MMS's chanikyan strategy. Yindoo electricity and water supply will be contaminated with polio vaccine.

Anujan wrote:

How Kayani would look if he were to visit Swat. A Pakistan Army Photoshop Artist's perspective. Kayani's nuclear briefcase is carried by the Djinn floating in the back.

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"We have strongly protested and I will, too, God willing, talk about this to Karzai," said Ashraf, speaking in Karachi.
If Karzai doesn't answer the phone that means God was not willing to listen to Pakis

Seven Pakistani soldiers have been beheaded after being seized by Taliban militants close to the Afghan border on Sunday, security officials say.

Four other soldiers remain missing after the reported cross-border attack involving 100 heavily armed militants.

The soldiers were on patrol in the north-western district of Upper Dir.

Brad Goodman wrote:goonga behra forum jihadis are pretty silent on this news I am really shocked. No outrage no anger absolutely nothing whats going on lurkers

With the arrest of the suspected 26/11 handler Abu Hamza, India will be in a position to put Pakistan under pressure, who had earlier claimed that he had been arrested. Pakistan will now have to elaborate on how this man was then allegedly travelling to Saudi Arabia and other countries in recent months.

anupmisra wrote:Now I am really confused with the pakiarmy-paki.tellibunny-afghanarmy-afghan.tellibunni-militants-alkeeda-goodcop-badcop thing. Who is who in this new soap opera?

"They have plenty of militants on their side. Why would the militants cross over from Afghanistan? I strongly reject this claim that any militants crossed over from Afghanistan to Pakistan and did this," he said.

If the peace process and the diplomatic engagement between India and Pakistan have to inch forward incrementally towards reaching the pinnacle of Kashmir, then there, perhaps, is no better Confidence Building Measure (CBM) than effecting a thaw in the frosty diplomatic immobility over Siachen. Manifestly, this is easier said than done. As the June 11-12 parleys between the Defence Secretaries of the two countries held at Islamabad indicate the level of inflexibility in the Indian stance over options to bring the area to status quo ante that prevailed when the Indian army launched Operation Meghdoot to occupy the Saltoro Ridge, defining the south western limit of Siachen Glacier, has only gone up several notches. A major factor contributing to the hardening of Indian stance is an entrenched opposition by the Indian army to stymie its government’s initiatives to clinch a deal on Siachen. As is becoming evident, the Indian army has emerged as a major stakeholder in defining the parameters of the Indo-Pak dialogue process; effectively challenging the political writ of the government. ( Phoki Paki Dhamki)The AGPL delineation is unacceptable because it amounts to legitimising the Indian aggression in Siachen; an area that was left unmarked due to terrain difficulties when the UN sponsored Karachi Agreement in 1949, marked the Ceasefire Line (CFL) in Kashmir on cessation of hostilities. The terminus then was a benchmark called NJ 9842 beyond which the boundary line was not extended towards the Chinese border by military commanders of the two countries. Siachen, with its unalienable linkages with the Kashmir issue, provides an ample test case to evaluate the Indo-Pak capability in resolving their problemsbilaterally .Many apprehensions, mostly untenable, have been proffered to justify the Indian intransigence to demilitarise Siachen. A major one being that Pakistan could occupy the Saltoro ridgeline and its passes in case the glacier is demilitarised. This is hardly tenable; reflecting a fossilised Indian mindset steeped in suspicion and mistrust. Technology for monitoring troop concentrations and movements has undergone radical transformation and ironclad guarantees, including third parties’ involvement, can be incorporated in the agreement to preclude violations. Then there is the presence of the UN Military Observers Group in India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP), which has been mandated by the UNSC through its resolutions to monitor CFL (now called LoC) separating the two armies in Kashmir. By incorporating the available technology, they, under the authority of the UN mandate, can keep an effective watch over the glacier as the troops vacate the disputed area. Many solutions are available to resolve the embedded problems, but first India will have to let go of lame excuses that have effectively grounded all efforts to bilaterally solve major issues topped by Kashmir. Siachen can provide the key to bilaterally finding a way to clean the Augean stables of Indo-Pak disputes

A major factor contributing to the hardening of Indian stance is an entrenched opposition by the Indian army to stymie its government’s initiatives to clinch a deal on Siachen. As is becoming evident, the Indian army has emerged as a major stakeholder in defining the parameters of the Indo-Pak dialogue process; effectively challenging the political writ of the government.

Muslims in Pakistan will kill and die to defend the Prophet’s (PBUH) honour but they are not willing to take his advice in ordering their lives.There are indications that moral values are in a state of decline in Pakistan. We heard of students taking the matriculation examination at various places in Sindh who asserted their right to cheat.Other types of ghastly perpetrations are taking place every day. Young girls, as little as less than ten years of age, are kidnapped, raped, tortured, and then killed. In some cases, their bodies have been chopped up and limbs scattered indiscriminately at different locations. It is not only the deprived sections of the community that resort to malpractices.Many of the high and the mighty steal from banks; they borrow large sums of money, which they have no intention ever to return. They use their influence to get these loans written off as bad debts.Our moral values are mostly homegrown but some of them may have been imported from other cultures. We in this country tend to think that they have come to us from Islam. Actually, many of them have had universal acceptance and application in uncounted centuries before the advent of Mohammad’s (PBUH) prophet hood (610 AD).With a few exceptions they are common to all of the major religions. Hinduism is one of the exceptions in that it rejects the notion of basic moral equality of all persons. It places them in gradations of a hierarchical order. Islam, on the other hand, asserts the entitlement of all persons to equal protection of the law. It discourages not only the concentration of wealth in a few hands but also accumulation.In another line of its dimensions, Islam encourages the dissemination and creation of knowledge. The Prophet is reported to have enjoined Muslims to acquire knowledge even if they had to go to China for it.( News for Poaq, Chinese were coming to India for acquiring , gaining Knowledge at the Prophet's time )In another line of its dimensions, Islam encourages the dissemination and creation of knowledge. The Prophet is reported to have enjoined Muslims to acquire knowledge even if they had to go to China for it. China at that time was not the place where Islamic studies had thrived or even surfaced. He was evidently asking Muslims to acquire knowledge of the physical, biological and social sciences. This was a dramatic change from traditional thinking. China at that time was not the place where Islamic studies had thrived or even surfaced. He was evidently asking Muslims to acquire knowledge of the physical, biological and social sciences. This was a dramatic change from traditional thinking.

Jhujar wrote:Decline of moral values
Anuswar Syed ( Moral Pakistan has more Syeds than whole poapulation of Saudi Arabia)

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2012_pg3_3

Pranay wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18586978

Seven Pakistani soldiers have been beheaded after being seized by Taliban militants close to the Afghan border on Sunday, security officials say.

Four other soldiers remain missing after the reported cross-border attack involving 100 heavily armed militants.

The soldiers were on patrol in the north-western district of Upper Dir.

Acharya wrote:This guy must be taken to a academy to show him that after 1971 the UN is no longer relevant in Kashmir.
Pakistan in 1972 is not the same as Pakistan in 1947 or 1948. Hence all the agreement are new for the new Pakistan of 1972.

A major factor contributing to the hardening of Indian stance is an entrenched opposition by the Indian army to stymie its government’s initiatives to clinch a deal on Siachen. As is becoming evident, the Indian army has emerged as a major stakeholder in defining the parameters of the Indo-Pak dialogue process; effectively challenging the political writ of the government.

Looks like he also knows how the govt works inside India. Why is he bothered about who makes the decision.

Gunmen on motorcycles opened fire at the offices of a television news channel in Karachi on Monday, wounding two people, including a security guard, police officials said.

Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP)

We had informed the management of Aaj TV to include our view on issues, but the channel had become a mouthpiece of the government

Geo TV is going to be our next target

The Prime Minister said that the government will ensure freedom of media and will not tolerate such incidents

It is an indoctrination of vulnerable minds with hatred and ‘holy’ violence, thus perpetrating a fresh breed of militants, intoxicated by absolute intolerance for those who dare to differ with their ideology Whoa! Thats a mouthful!

Peace is fast becoming a distant dream amidst the aberrant state of affairs in Pakistan; almost everyday people are killed in the name of religion, ethnicity, enmity and honor

Instead of persecuting the militants carrying out these terrorist activities, government is found pandering to the militants behind such killings, hence emboldening the killers and instilling terror and insecurity in all religious minorities.

Shia populace, by far, has been the most affected community at the hands of these incessant killings in a bid to establish shari’ah in the region.

This is despite the gravity of the deteriorating situation of law and order pertaining to the minorities’ persecution in general and Shia killings in particular.

the mainstream electronic and print media have also turned a blind eye to the frequency and ferocity of these events

members of Shia community have been inexorably massacred in Pakistan since the late 1980s by a group of terrorists, now known as Ahl-e-Sunnat Wal Jamaat

That was for the sake of spearheading Zia’s strategy ‘to teach Pakistani Shias a lesson’ after they had refused to pay zakat to his regime.

From 1987 to 2011, as many as 5,000 Shias are estimated to have been killed in order to establish ‘real’ shari’ah in the land of pure by the hotheaded Islamists.

Heaps of decrees released by radical clerics at different times, declaring Shias as ‘infidels’ and thus liable to be killed, have only added fuel to flames

the questionable role played by Pakistani Shias against Ahmadiyya Muslims.

In fact, both the communities were together against the Ahmedis in the 1950s, and then in the early 1990s. (Marvi Sirmed)

Until recently, Pakistan’s Shias did not have the self-image of a religious minority. They had joined Sunnis in supporting Mr Bhutto’s 1974 decision to declare Ahmadis as non-Muslim. But now they are worried. (Pervez Hoodbhoy)

Token participation and appropriation of Shias can also be found in General Zia’s Shura and federal cabinet.

Pakistan’s founder, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, was an Ismaili by birth and a Twelver Shia by confession, though not a religiously observant man. He had studied at the Inns of Court in London and was better versed in English law than in Shia jurisprudence, was never seen at an Ashoura procession, and favored a wardrobe that often smacked as much of Savile Row as of South Asia. Yet insofar as he was Muslim and a spokesman for Muslim nationalism, it was as a Shia. His coreligionists played an important role in his movement, and over the years many of Pakistan’s leaders were Shias, including:

1. one the country’s first governor-generals,
2. three of its first prime ministers,
3. two of its military leaders (Generals Iskandar Mirza and Yahya Khan),
4. its leading public officials, landowners, industrialists, artists, and intellectuals.
5. Two later prime ministers, the ill-fated Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and his Radcliffe-educated, currently exiled daughter, Benazir Bhutto, were also Shia.

About Pinky: Feeling the wind shift in the 1990s, Benazir styled herself a Sunni, but her Iranian mother, her husband from a big Shia landowning family, and her father’s name, the name of Ali’s twin-bladed sword, make her Shia roots quite visible. In a way, Benazir’s self-reinvention as a Sunni tells the tale of how secular nationalism’s once solid-seeming promise has given way like a rotten plank beneath the feet of contemporary Pakistan’s beleaguered Shia minority.

anupmisra wrote:Based on the falling out between the Sunnis and the Shi'as in pa'astan, it is time to recall the prominent role Shi'as played in the early / formative years of the land of the pure. The bottom line is, please don't weep for the ones who complain today for they were themselves the tormentors of yesteryears.

Roperia wrote:Please read the following two articles, in TOI and NDTV, before saying Pukis may have helped in his arrest.

The pig was in Saudi Arabia to collect money and actively planning and recruiting for the next major terror attack.

Abu Hamza was in Saudi Arabia to gather funds for big terror strike; Pakistan tried to prevent his extradition: Sources

Abu Jundal was plotting new attack, recruiting terrorists for LeT