Indian Economy - News & Discussion Oct 12 2013

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Vamsee wrote:The fall of oil prices is the biggest stimulus for Indian economy.
Acchhe din are here. Hopefully the prices stay in this range for a few years.
http://www.pcra.org/English/education/panindia.htm

51 percent of India's petroleum usage is by Automobiles.

The adoption of Electric vehicles is still not economic for the common Indian citizen. The initial cost of investment being very high even though operating cost will be very less. The complete electric vehicle trend with cheaper initial investment and operating cost will only pick up pace hopefully by 2020. Until then let it go slow and steady but there be incentives from government to electric vehicle owners.

Recent studies indicate that in metropolitan cities, vehicles can save 30% fuel by going hybrid, especially in India and China. The technology is mature and cost effective and can be put in current vehicles in production.

The government can think of bringing in regulations to ensure that in cities only vehicles that are hybrid in nature are sold from a particular year and also two three years down the line all the vehicles sold in India must be either hybrid or electric (2020) That will help in reducing our petroleum usage and over a period of time say 2030 completely eliminate vehicles running on petroleum (atleast in cities) and by 2040 we must be energy independent with possibility of petroleum exports. This is very much possible.
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Government's public debt rises to Rs 49.6 lakh crore at September end
NEW DELHI: India's public debt increased to Rs 49.6 lakh crore at the end of the July-September quarter of 2014-15, up 2.8 per cent over the previous quarter.

"The Public Debt of the Central Government (excluding liabilities under the 'Public Account') provisionally increased to Rs 49,60,472.3 crore as at end-September 2014 from Rs 48,27,485.6 crore at end-June 2014," a Finance Ministry report said.

It further said the internal debt constituted 91.7 per cent of public debt at end of July-September quarter, compared with 91.5 per cent at the end of the previous quarter.


Marketable securities accounted for 83.9 per cent of total public debt as compared with 83.5 per cent as at end-June 2014.

"The outstanding internal debt of the government at Rs 45,49,351.3 crore increased marginally to 40.1 per cent of GDP at end September 2014 from 38.9 per cent as at end-June 2014," it said.

The external debt amounted to about Rs 4.11 lakh crore. It further said that the G-Sec market opened the second quarter of 2014-15 steady but remained cautious ahead of Annual Budget. Market worries relating to higher fiscal deficit in the first two months of the financial year drove the yields marginally higher to quarter high in mid July 2014.

"Subsequently, the re-assurance by Finance Minister regarding fiscal prudence and RBI...enhancing the debt limit in G-sec available to FII/QFI/FPI by USD 5 billion with an equivalent reduction in the limit available for long term investor within the overall limit of USD 30 billion led to fall in yields," the report said.

The soft inflation numbers as well as comfortable liquidity condition during month of September, 2014, resulted in softening of yield at the quarter end across the Treasury bill yield curve, it added.

The report also said the cash position of the Government during second quarter of the fiscal was comfortable barring a few occasions, when it took recourse to Ways and Means Advances (WMA).
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Public debt stands at ~40 % of GDP and External Debt as per RBI at ( $440 Billion ) stands at ~ 23 % of GDP

http://www.rbi.org.in/Scripts/BS_PressR ... prid=31521

So our net debt internal and external is at 63 % of GDP ..not bad we seem to be managing our debt reasonably well
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Green law to subsume existing authorities mooted

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 772_1.html
A committee set up to review laws related to protection of environment and forests, headed by former Cabinet secretary T S R Subramanian, has recommended an omnibus green law that will not only subsume existing legislation, but also hold the potential to undo existing judicial pronouncements on environmental issues. The proposed law will also do away with all existing authorities created under the Environment Protection Act, 1986.

The panel's report, which hasn't been made public yet, was reviewed by Business Standard . If the proposal is accepted, the government could do away with the Supreme Court-appointed central empowered committee (CEC) on forestry issues, as well as the Environment Pollution Control Authority (EPCA). The two bodies have driven the environmental agenda on urban pollution management and forestry for several years.

The Subramanian has recommended new national and state level authorities, the National Environment Management Authority (NEMA) and the State Environmental Authority (SEMA), be set up under the new law proposed by the committee, the Environmental Laws (Management) Act, 2014.

In its report, the panel also provided a draft of the law. "All (existing) appellate or revising authorities under the environmental laws shall, from the date of commencement of this Act, cease to have power or jurisdiction conferred on them under those laws in respect of matters covered under this Act," said the draft, reviewed by Business Standard .

The panel has also recommended once the new law is in place, suo moto and other powers of courts to intervene in environmental governance be severely curtailed. "Subject to the powers of the National Green Tribunal (constituted under Act 19 of 2010) reserved under the succeeding provision of the decisions of the government, NEMA or SEMA under this Act or matters related thereto shall not be questioned before, nor enquired into by any court or tribunal either suo moto or at anyone's behest on any grounds whatsoever to question the new authorities," the report said

"The provisions of this Act shall prevail over anything to the contrary contained in any judgment or order of any court or tribunal and other enactments, including the environmental laws dealt with under this Act," read the provision of the draft law.

In May 2002, the Supreme Court had formed a CEC, following several instances of environmental irregularities. Since then, the CEC has looked into various critical issues across the country, including widespread illegal mining in parts of Odisha, Goa, Karnataka and the Western Ghats. Based on the recommendations of the CEC, the SC has cancelled many mining leases.

The EPCA, formed in 1998, had, among other moves, recommended a ban on diesel vehicles in Delhi. It had also played an advisory role on issues such as fuel quality and vehicle emission.

Together, these two authorities have been involved with about 3,000 cases that have come up came before the Supreme Court so far.

Even before the formation of the high-level panel, the environment ministry had already discussed dilution of the powers of the National Green Tribunal. It had also held discussions on whether the setting up of a new regulator was a legitimate reason to ask for the Supreme Court to wind down the CEC. Previously, the Prime Minister's Office had also been concerned about litigation on environmental issues in the apex court and the green tribunal.

THE PROPOSED ENVIRONMENTAL LAWS (MANAGEMENT) ACT 2014
The Act seeks to create an umbrella law to tackle the multiplicity of agencies processing environment and forest clearance and revamp the project clearance procedures

What will it create?
National Environment Management Authority (NEMA) – recommend environment clearance to projects with high potential environmental impacts, presently done at the Central level.
State Environmental Authority (SEMA) -- recommend environment clearance to projects with medium potential environmental impacts, presently done at the state level.
Appellate Authority – to look into appeals related to decision on environment clearance taken by the MoEF or SEMA
Special Environmental Courts in every district to try offences under this Act

What will it subsume?
Central Pollution Control Board
State Pollution Control Board
Existing Supreme Court committees on environment, including the Central Empowered Committee (CEC) and Environment Pollution Control Authority (EPCA)
Various provisions of the Water Act and the Air Act

Salient features
NEMA and SEMA will act as fulltime processing, clearance and monitoring agency thereby replacing the existing bodies such as Forest Advisory Committee and Expert Appraisal Committee
NEMA and SEMA will be given statutory status to deal with all various environmental Acts administered by the government
NEMA and state governments cannot give directions to the SEMA on project clearances accorded by the latter
The ELMA Act will work on the “utmost good faith” principle where the project developers would be obliged to disclose everything about the project and self-certify the facts; concealing facts will draw heavy punishment
An appeal can be filed with the new appellate authority within 30 days of the final decision taken by the union government on environment clearance
This new authority will lead to ceasing of powers and jurisdiction of existing appellate authorities

The Subramanian panel has also recommended the setting up of an appellate board, to be headed by a retired high court judge; two officers of the rank of secretary in the government, retired or serving, will be the first level of appeal against clearances. Appeals would have to be made within 30 days of a clearance order. As of now, such appeals lie before the National Green Tribunal and can be made within six months of a clearance. The decisions taken by this board will be judicially reviewed by the environmental court --- the National Green Tribunal. But the tribunal won't be able to carry out a technical review of the clearances, as it is empowered to do as of now. The panel has recommended the tribunal's reviews be conducted only "on grounds permissible and subject to limitations applicable to judicial review of administrative actions by high courts and the Supreme Court."

The panel has suggested special environmental courts be set up at the district level. These courts, headed by a judge of the rank of a sessions or additional sessions judge, will be solely empowered to deal with infringement of environmental laws.
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They've talked the talk rather well... now for the hard part...

Arun Jaitley says government will go ahead with reforms to achieve 8 per cent growth (India Today)

Some quotable excerpts...
In the ongoing Winter Session of Parliament, Jaitley outlined the government's priorities like introduction of GST (Goods and Services Tax), changes in the land acquisition law, auction of non-coal minerals and elimination of non-deserving sections from subsidy net, saying the key economic portfolios are being handled by people who have no baggage of the past.
Also...
Seeking a shared vision among all stake holders like government, opposition, judiciary and legislature, Jaitley criticised the Congress approach saying "it seems to be that the party is saying now that I am out, let me obstruct. Since I am not in government, it is not my responsibility. So I will obstruct".

He also charged the Congress party with having an obsolete mindset that led to enactment of a measure like the 'draconian' land acquisition law under which it was not possible to build a private school, hospital or hotel.

The Finance Minister said Modi has put young people in charge of key economic ministries because they do not carry the baggage of the past and will have a fresh thinking and the ability to learn fast.

He said the government is working on the e-auction route for allocation of non-coal minerals like iron ore to remove discretionary allotments.
Read it all. More quotable quotes out there. Not that it'll change set opinions among C-system beneficiaries and voters but still...
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Hope and audacity
At the end of six months of the Modi sarkar are we seeing signs that it is confusing efficiency with reform? I ask the question because so far there is no sign of real reform in any area of governance. And, because some of Narendra Modi’s most ardent supporters are now beginning to get worried. Last week I met a man who dedicated a whole year to helping Modi become Prime Minister and he seemed despondent. When I asked how he thought the government was doing, he said he would answer in the words of the management guru Peter Drucker, “There is nothing quite so useless as doing with great efficiency something that should not be done at all.”

We can certainly not fault this government on efficiency. Ministers, high officials, clerks and peons now report for duty on time and are no longer to be seen taking long lunch breaks to soak in winter sunshine in Delhi’s parks. The Prime Minister’s Office hums with more noise and activity than we have seen in a decade but, despite this, there are no signs of the policy changes that are vital if we are to see real reform. The Planning Commission has been abolished but there are many, many other leftovers from socialist times that must go. Do we need a Ministry of Information & Broadcasting in an age when the Internet has made propaganda futile? Do we need a meddlesome University Grants Commission? Do we need the government to continue wasting our money on a hopeless airline and badly run hotels? We do not.

What we do need is for the government to make policies that will convince investors that India is a safe bet once more. We do not need a new government that simply implements more efficiently bad policies that it inherited from the last government. It was because of those policies that investors fled and the economy stopped growing. Unless this changes through better policies, the jobs that the Prime Minister promises young people at election rallies will not come. So far signals are so mixed that investors continue to shy away.

The Finance Minister promises to end tax terrorism but in the next breath orders tax inspectors to go forth in search of black money. Vodafone has been given temporary relief by the courts but the retroactive tax remains valid. And, although we hear that the government has grandiose plans to improve the decrepit transport systems, power stations and ports it inherited, it continues to refuse to pay those who have to build them. The infrastructure industry is owed more than Rs 1.5 lakh crore in government dues and this has crippled major companies. No amount of efficiency in announcing new projects will make a difference unless old dues are cleared.

Reform is needed not just in economic matters but in every area of governance. Does the Prime Minister know how hard it is to get a passport? Does he know that a police check is required even if you just want to get a few pages added to your passport? Does he know how hard it is to do routine things like registering property? Does he know that no amount of efficiency will improve healthcare services that are broken?

No amount of efficiency will improve educational services that have long been in terminal decline because of bad policies and interfering officials. At the same time, the licence raj that strangles private investment in schools and colleges remains in place.

Modi’s popularity with ordinary people has increased since he became Prime Minister, as we saw from his rallies in Kashmir last week, but it will not last if the jobs do not come and if public services do not improve. At this point, may I say that I am fully aware that decades of Congress rule have left India in a very bad way, so to expect miraculous change in six months would be madness. What I do believe we have a right to expect from the man who promised ‘parivartan’ and ‘vikas’ are signs of changes in the offing. Every ministry should by now have given us at the very least a roadmap of the changes in policy we can expect in the next six months. This has not happened and this is the main reason why even Modi’s supporters are beginning to lose hope.

It has to be said that what has really changed in the past six months is the mood of India. Where there was total despair, there is now so much hope that it is almost frightening. The Prime Minister must seize the moment because, in politics, hope is tenuous and ephemeral. It manifests itself rarely and dissipates easily. India is in its thrall today as never before. Does Modi have what it takes to make hope endure?
Have to agree with Tavleen Singh, one of Modi's biggest supporters during the elections. Jaitley has been an under-performing disappointment so far - hope his performance over the next few months changes this perception.
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I don't think Modi will leave things to Jaitley in such a vital ministry required for his continuance. The journalist focuses more on what has not been done rather than what has been done in the last 6 months. Impatience mixed with lack of research.
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Supratik wrote:I don't think Modi will leave things to Jaitley in such a vital ministry required for his continuance. The journalist focuses more on what has not been done rather than what has been done in the last 6 months. Impatience mixed with lack of research.
By Not overdoing things Jatley has brought stability in policy. Compare this with UPA with lobby groups bringing changes in the clueless govt.

Just the changes in the govt bureaucracy and performance will bring deep impact.
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Growth is bring hampered primarily by the weak industrial output growth of 2.2%, with manufacturing (which comprises 80% of industrial sector) growing only 0.6% in July-September . The non-manufacturing industrial sector therefore grew at 8.6% . Services grew more than 7% , while a weak monsoon still generated >3% agricultural growth.

There are tens of billions worth of investment that were stalled and only got clearance in the last few months. There will be a gestational period before they come onstream. Access to cheap credit, environmental and regulatory hurdles, energy costs, labour restrictions all affect a rapid ramp up. Efforts are being made on all these fronts, but 3-6 months is too little time to see major results, even though the underlying increase in economic activity and employment will be there, just that there will not be corresponding manufacturing output yet.

That's why industrial growth is characterized by 8.6% non-manufacturing (i.e. core sector) growth but only 0.6% manufacturing output growth. In other words, electricity, cement, steel, hydrocarbons and other feed stock is being produced rapidly, but actual production of goods has not yet taken off. This clearly points to capacity building ramping up (indicated by consumption of oil, electricity, steel and cement), but not yet coming online.

See Core Sector performance data (PDF). Note that since May/June, cement, electricity and coal output are growing at or near double digits, while steel output is more variable. The data suggests there's significant activity occuring on the ground, and I project manufacturing output will show rapid increase probably from early next year, as some early projects start coming online.
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In the meantime, climate police are looking for a periodic hapta

Obama China Pact Raises Stakes for India in Climate Talks
U.S. President Barack Obama’s breakthrough deal with China to rein in fossil fuel emissions puts the spotlight squarely on India and other major economies as the world’s governments gather in Peru in search of a plan to fight climate change.

Carbon dioxide emissions will jump 34 percent in India by 2020 and double by 2030 under its existing policies, according to the International Energy Agency. A promise by the planet’s third largest polluter behind the U.S. and China to limit emissions would send a message to the world that every country needs to contribute to the fight against climate change.....
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Acche din has arrived for the Indian economy :)
the country’s net energy imports (mostly oil) account for more than six per cent of its gross domestic product (GDP).

With the price of energy cut by nearly 40 per cent in the last six months, the net import bill falls in a full year by 2.5 per cent of GDP (or Rs 3.2 lakh crore).

If oil prices stay at their new level of $72 or drop further, as the big oil exporters seem to think they will, and nothing else changes dramatically on the trade front, India will be in the happy position next year of enjoying a surplus on the trade account (both goods and services).

That will be the first “current account” surplus in over a decade - the last such surplus was in 2004, when oil prices were at about $25 per barrel.
there is a good case for Mr Jaitley to jack up the customs duty. A 10 per cent tariff (done incrementally in two or three stages, to avoid a price shock) would yield Rs 60,000 crore - enough to pay for the subsidies on kerosene and cooking gas.

The combined effect of lower subsidies and higher revenues could shrink the fiscal deficit by one percentage point - a bonanza if ever there was one.
This once-in-a-decade opportunity to capitalise on cheaper oil should not be wasted in any desire to win easy popularity, especially since consumers as a class stand to benefit from better macroeconomic numbers.

As for the exchange value of the rupee, if Mr Modi is serious about “Make in India and sell anywhere”, he has to keep the rupee competitive.

That means asking the Reserve Bank to repeat what it did in the mid-2000s: buy dollars as much as it can, and shore up foreign exchange reserves.

Most observers agreed that the reserves need to get to $400 billion, from a little over $300 billion today.
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The combination of strong core sector growth suggesting investment implementation work in progress (corresponding to an uptick in savings/GDP and investment/GDP), combined with low oil prices helping to strengthen the financial situation of GoI and lower inflation as well as interest rates, suggests that growth will increase dramatically in early 2015 onwards. Next fiscal year seems set for >7% growth.
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^^ The Ruskies acccumulated bad karma in the vikad deal. Now my elephant headed hindu god punishing them and rewarding India by lowering oil price out of Ruskies' own action. Take that seculars :mrgreen: :rotfl: :twisted:
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Picklu wrote:^^ The Ruskies acccumulated bad karma in the vikad deal. Now my elephant headed hindu god punishing them and rewarding India by lowering oil price out of Ruskies' own action. Take that seculars :mrgreen: :rotfl: :twisted:

Too much CNN propogandu has clouded your reasoning. Russia is not struggling that much. Yes, Oil is what they use to pay for almost everything, but even today they are not exporting as much oil as Soviet Union was in 1986. Back then they had most of their oil in the Stan states that they lost. Their exports fell to 1 million barrels a day from 6 million. Today they are still at 5 million barrels a day. Russia today despite the fall in oil prices is way better off and can easily outlast the Saudis. The point is that at some stage the Americans will have to start underwriting Saudi losses. Without that these levels will not sustain Saudis for more than 12 more months. Can Putin survive that? I think easily.
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RR is killing Indian Industry!!! SME's are dying by the day because they are getting choked by the cost of debt and this guy refuses to budge. If he was not buying up dollars (and its not just RBI but states banks as well that are buying dollars on RR's behest), the rupee would have appreciated to 55 levels providing so much relief to dollar debt of Indian companies. I personally feel there is space for a 100 basis points cut, but even that I see him distributing over 12 months. How the hell is Indian industry going to compete against such odds? He must go! Jet Li is right.
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I saw RR press conference on some business channel. His contention is that it has been only two months since inflation has fallen after 4-1/2 yrs. He believes it is too early for rate cuts as he wants to see if low inflation remains steady. He doesn't want to change policy abruptly. He is not sure if the low commodity and oil prices are long lasting. He believes that low inflation is the key to sustainable growth over a long period - what India needs. Having said that he said rate cuts are most likely going to happen in early 2015 if the present conditions persist. I think this is reasonable.
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George wrote:If he was not buying up dollars (and its not just RBI but states banks as well that are buying dollars on RR's behest), the rupee would have appreciated to 55 levels providing so much relief to dollar debt of Indian companies.
Can you post some links which mention RBI buying large amount of dollars to keep the exchange rate low? I was searching to see if that was the case as well, but couldn't find anything. Thanks.
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nachiket: RBI weekly statistical supplement data reports forex reserves on a weekly basis and can be used to track currency moves.

Regarding rate cut, Business Insider is somewhat of a tabloid, but here's their take:
India Is Facing A Choice Other BRICS Can Only Dream About
The Reserve Bank of India opted today not to change interest rates, keeping the repo rate (the rate at which the RBI lends money to commercial banks) at 8% and the reverse repo rate at 7%.

But two things suggest that monetary policy changes are soon to come.

First, inflation has dropped much lower than expected. Food and fuel inflation have fallen, and with them, consumer prices — down to 5.5% in October, beating the central bank's January 2016 target.

In a statement Tuesday, the bank's governor, Raghuram Rajan, hinted at a change in monetary policy "if the current inflation momentum and changes in inflationary expectations continue."

The other factor is GDP growth, which has been slack, and is expected to remain so. Data released last week showed last quarter's growth weakened to 5.3% year over year, down from 5.7% in the previous quarter. And Rajan's statement said that growth, going forward, would likely remain "muted."

Pressure is building on the governor, who has spent the past 15 months aggressively fighting inflation, to loosen rates soon. Finance Minister Arun Jaitley met with him on Monday to plead for rate cuts, which would help support growth.

India CPICapital Economics

Unlike the central banks of other emerging markets, the Reserve Bank of India under Rajan has the credibility to cut rates without appearing soft on inflation. Spiro Sovereign Strategy, a consultancy, referred to this as the "Rajan Factor" and contrasted it with Turkey's central bank, which began cutting rates earlier this year in the midst of a surge of inflation.

Meanwhile, three other BRICS nations — Brazil, Russia, and South Africa — are all looking to raise interest rates next year, despite potentially recessionary conditions.

So compared to his peers, Rajan is looking pretty good. Depending on consumer price, wholesale price, and industrial production data due out later this month, he could begin loosening his tight monetary stance early next year.

The next RBI meeting is in February.
As I mentioned previously, I too think RBI will cut rates in February rather than now, perhaps by as much as 100bp. While growth hasn't picked up significantly, primarily because investments are still in gestation phase and have not generated additional output yet, there's a buildup happening, as the core sector data suggests.
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Finally, some sanity and sense dawning on the govt , since the UPA's or more specifically the NAC's hare brained spend all you can, fiscal deficit be damned madness saw inflation above 10% for close to 5 years.

Starting with Chidambaram and the gradual price increases in oil, especially diesel and the hard work done in containing the fiscal deficit and bringing the macro economy back on track, policies which were mercifully (THANK GOD) continued by the Modi Govt, despite calls for dropping interest rates and jacking up govt. spending by the Marx in Saffron drag (i.e Cow+Marx) dudes, which would have resulted in going back to the profligacy and inflation of UPA, the Govt and the RBI have held firm.

What Rajan is rightly focused on is breaking the back of inflation expectations for good and getting in a regime of moderate inflation over the medium to long term. His remarks on the RBI and Govt targeting a median of 4% inflation (with a +/- 2% band) , with the 4% number coming from the long term inflationary expectation of 2% in developed economies , with the 2% differential coming from productivity gain differences and hence that 4% will give long term stability to the nominal value of the Rupee.

Also, they were VERY clear , that the Congress style, negative real interest rates, with high inflation and low deposit rates , which basically saw money haemorrhaging out of financial assets into real assets such as land and gold, and the consequent effect on the investment cycle, and macro economic stability is a thing of the past.

So, yes, it makes sense to start saving again, and, savings rate goes up. And remember from Econ 101, Desired Savings = Desired Investments , and investment goes up as well, and for a given ICOR, the growth rate goes up.

All this whining about dropping interest rates is by the borrowers who face higher risk premiums due to their rotten credit profiles and past risky bets looking for a bail out. Not going to happen. The RBI and Govt is rightly focused on the next 5 years and not on the next 3 months.

All in all . EXTREMELY GOOD. We are blessed to have Raghuram Rajan as the governor. The right man at the helm at the right time. Razor sharp, brilliant background and qualifications, clear plan on what needs to be done and the interpersonal skills and ability to negotiate with the administration and be task focused.
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The credit goes to the government, not Rajan. Rajan's simply following the same script from day 1. It's working now because the government is working. RBI's policies cannot work if Government does not allow them to work. There wasn't much RBI did wrong during UPA-1 and UPA-2, but those governments themselves did a lot wrong.

What we're seeing here is merely a synergistic positive development driven by RBI and GoI working together towards the same purpose, as opposed to being antagonistic rivals, as Chidambaram was with every incumbent RBI leader of his time. The current administration on the other hand, has had a positive relationship with the RBI.

Rajan started by offering a stable rate regime right after May 16, to let the government implement initial reforms, and he continued the positive interaction ever since. The government on its part, has been continuously implementing reforms and streamlining procedures and bureaucracy.
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@suraj,


are you , professionally, into long term equity research by any chance?
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Suraj wrote:The credit goes to the government, not Rajan. Rajan's simply following the same script from day 1. It's working now because the government is working. RBI's policies cannot work if Government does not allow them to work. There wasn't much RBI did wrong during UPA-1 and UPA-2, but those governments themselves did a lot wrong.

What we're seeing here is merely a synergistic positive development driven by RBI and GoI working together towards the same purpose, as opposed to being antagonistic rivals, as Chidambaram was with every incumbent RBI leader of his time. The current administration on the other hand, has had a positive relationship with the RBI.
Yes. Largely true. The RBI did it's job under Governors Y.V Reddi, D Subba Rao. In fact it did a very very good job, and Y.V Reddy, basically saved everyone's bacon by his far sighted actions during the go -go days prior to 2008 , and making the banks make loss reserves for their lending to real estate and other highly leveraged plays. The banks got away with that due to him. Unfortunately, in our current system, they allowed the govt's implicit guarantee to overcome their better judgements and allowed the banks to lend to the infra and power companies without similar loss reserves during the go-go days. That has shown up as big NPAs in the books of the PSU banks.

The UPA with Mukherjee as finance minister went back to it's old worst instincts of a 70s style command and control and goaded on by the NAC jokers went on a spending binge , with the idea of getting the Yuvraj and his brand of NAC type politics and spend away to utopia coronated. Unfortunately, the laws of gravity worked and you saw big fiscal deficits, and the macro economy going out of whack and that saw runaway inflation.

The UPA probably had to fight some serious internal ideological battles and the more pragmatist and level headed voices could be heard only when inflation became a serious headline problem and could not be controlled. Back came Chidambaram and the bitter pill of having to raise oil prices at a bad time and then going into the election with a legacy of bad economic management an serious inflation above 10% for close to 6 or 7 years running. With that kind of economic record, there was no way the Congress could have won, and at best could have hoped for a hung assembly, which mercifully didn't happen (I know, I would have preferred Congress winning), and it was kicked out clean.

The only danger was the Cow+Marx ideologues within the RSS who put a spoke in the first half of Vajpayee's term. It must be totally made sure that the Cow+Marx types don't come anywhere near serious economic policy and are restricted to fringe "nautanki" and "tamasha" like some odd self help schemes and stuff which does a lot of feel good and toffee throwing and nice headlines , but nothing substantive.
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Modi's economic paradigm is far removed from NDA-1 . Suggesting that he keep the 'Cow+Marx RSS types at bay' is a fundamental misunderstanding of how he operates. There's little to no relationship between how NDA-1 framed policy, and what Modi's administration does. It's fair to say that NDA-1 was characterized by interference from extra-party entities, but that's not the case here.

I find it difficult to accept that there was any sort of ideological battle within the Congress. Maybe with their alliance partners, but not within the Congress. They very much got exactly what they sought - a dismantling of the established power structure in favor of power in the hands of someone other than the nominal head of goverment, outside by those outside the formal cabinet. No, the 'ideological battle' figment is just that. They did exactly what they wanted to do, and paid the price for the mismanagement it wrought, when a bunch of clueless amateurs were left in charge.
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Question to our gurus,

1) While Oil are lower due to USA-Russia fight and shale oil, did the Foriegn Oil lobby in UPA which even Veerapppa Moily complained about have an impact, in tweeking our Spot and Future, Fuel contracts in such a way it benefitted certain Vendor countries at cost of India.

2) SHoundnt we be entering into long term contracts and building our strategic reserves.

3) SHould Government Force Oil companies to create a Reserve fund account say 1 Lac crores which can be used in future times so we can observe the shock when Oil prices rise.

4) what are alternatives to reduce dependency on Foreign Oil and Gas, increase nuclear, solar power, generate electricity from waste etc, electrify more railway lines , reduce Diesel engines. So atleast our Generation of Electricity, ELectricity for Defense bases, Railways etc is not dependent on Foreign Oil.

Regarding INC, UPA-1, UPA-2, Indira Ghandi, Nehru , except Narasimha Rao time they have followed a consistent License raj, anti small business, anti employment policy where 80% of the population is dependent on Govt doles, there is not much scope for high end employment within the country, while the elite party away in Europe for 7-8 months a year. There is no ideological debate there. They are good for all others except Indians. They love importing weapons wholesale.
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No one will enter into long term contracts at current prices. Spot will rule.

Rather than a monetary fund, GoI is augmenting the strategic petroleum reserve.
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I find it difficult to accept that there was any sort of ideological battle within the Congress
There was and is.
One side - Chiddu, MMS (who like a pendulum would tilt this way and that, couldn't stamp authority) and his flunky Montek (well outside the congress) , and ranged against them a whole horde of old style Kangress types with Yuvraj and Diggy and others along with the NAC jokers ranged against them. Now, with RajMata doing the chappa for NAC, it was clear on which side of the ideological divide was the weight on.

It didn't matter, as they thought the economy was on autopilot and their pencilled in growth rates for UPA1 was a "taken". It never occurred to them that their assumptions could be fundamentally belied and that growth by their idiocy could be at risk. Well that is exactly what happened and by the time they got around to recognising that it could doom them, it was too late.

You have to read between the lines to understand why Chiddu, MMS and a few others were not invited for the Nehru 125 year official celebrations by the Congress. That was basically a preserve of the likes of Mani Shankar Aiyer and the rest of his fellow travellers. The "Nehruvian Bible" thumpers.
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None of them were in any position to mount any sort of 'ideological battle'. They're either political lightweights (PC and MMS) or non-entities (Montek). Calling it an ideological battle is far overstating the situation. They were not in any position to mount any sort of battle, and as such, there was none.
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It was a mother-son govt. MMS job was to give his signatures except a few cases like nuke deal where he seems to have convinced mother-son. Saying it was an ideological battle is overstating it.
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In November, services activity grows at fastest pace in 5 months
Annual services growth in the July-September quarter of this financial year was 7.05 per cent, compared with 6.80 per cent in the April-June period, according to official data. Still, India’s year-on-year gross domestic product growth in the three months to September 30 slowed to 5.3 per cent from 5.7 per cent in the June quarter, as industry, manufacturing in particular, did not pick up.

Manufacturing PMI data, released a day earlier, had revealed that the country’s manufacturing activity in November had grown at the fastest rate in 21 months (53.3 points on the index). The Composite PMI Output Index — manufacturing and services taken together — for the month stands at a five-month high level of 53.6, up from 51.0 in October.
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Data shows that Services PMI has exceeded 50 ever since May, compared to sub 50 figures every month before that.

On the question of SEZs. Title is a little negative; SEZs dramatically grew exports and investment, just not as much as expected, partly because the UPA-2 chose to kill the goose by withdrawing the very tax incentives that made them competitive, when they starting feeling pain:
Why SEZs in India have failed
Under the original scheme, businesses in SEZs were exempted from the minimum alternate tax (MAT) on book profits and developers were exempted from payment of the dividend distribution tax (DDT). But with indications that companies were misusing the policy for real estate arbitrage and that information technology companies were using the policy to recoup tax benefits that they lost when the Software Technology Parks of India (STPI) scheme ended, these exemptions were withdrawn.

From 2011-12, MAT exemptions for SEZ units and developers were withdrawn and DDT exemptions for developers were terminated. MAT was levied on book profits at the rate of 20 per cent, while DDT was levied at 20 per cent on dividends distributed to shareholders.

Though the issue of taxation is contentious, it is the unpredictability of the tax regime that has had an impact on investments. In their study on trade and investment barriers, Anwarul Hooda and Durgesh Rai, economists at Icrier, argue “predictability in taxation policies is a sine qua non for making the environment conducive for investment, whether foreign or domestic, so the withdrawal of direct tax benefits has been a setback for the SEZ programme and has affected its future prospects”.

A major reason for the success of SEZs in China was the creation of complementary infrastructure, power, roads and ports; these are lacking in India. According to Rao, “To get SEZs and manufacturing going in India, the focus should be on creating the necessary infrastructure which will require a more holistic approach.”
The problem was effectively one of administrative failure in general. Any policy, SEZ or otherwise, requires stable policy regime to work. Without any stability, or complementary support in the form of effective infrastructure, these zones cannot be expected to thrive. That's where Modi has shown significant past results - the ability to tie together various requirements for a policy regime to work.
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Who Defines the Next Economic Giants
Jim O Neill wrote:What about the other BRIC countries? Some years after I first coined the acronym in 2001, I suggested that a BRIC economy should be regarded as one that was already producing or had the clear potential to produce 5 percent of global GDP or more. China’s is the only one that qualifies, but at the time I believed that the other three BRIC economies had that potential.

Today, the economies of Brazil, India and Russia are all generating around 3 percent of global GDP, similar to Italy. But the countries’ big populations and reforms to lift productivity still mean their economies have a reasonable chance of going above that 5 percent threshold. They may someday become giants.

At the time of writing, I am quite confident that India will make this leap — its economy has a really good chance of becoming the world’s third-largest before 2040. The country has exceptionally favorable demographics, and in electing Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India has given itself the best chance in at least 30 years of being run by a government that is not smothered by its democracy but flourishes instead.
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Feels like 2007 once more !! India is back as the global talking point: Who will dominate the Post-Western global economy in 2030?.

The nightmare of the last 6 years under MMS & Gandee family is hopefully buried forever as a horrible, horrible memory !
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Reforms galore in shipping sector :

Major ports regulator on way out; rates to be market-based
In the first instance of a government winding down a sectoral regulator, the Tariff Authority for Major Ports (TAMP) will soon be disbanded, leaving major ports free to set market-driven rates.

The government plans to amend the port laws for this purpose. The shipping ministry is moving the Cabinet for approval to place a Port Laws Amendment Bill, 2014, in Parliament during the current session. TAMP was formed in 1997 through amendments to the Indian Ports Act, 1908, and Major Ports Trust Act, 1963.

With the initiation in recent years of encouragement for private investment in the sector, it had been thought necessary to keep a central regulatory body as a check against economic destabilisation, by introducing rate ceilings. TAMP was also meant to protect against development of private monopolies.

“The idea was to ensure prospective commercial gains did not lead to exploitation of clients. There is no rationale for continuing with such a regulating authority any longer,” said a highly ranked shipping ministry official who did not wish to be named.

With time breeding greater inter-port and intra-port competition, non-major ports now account for 42 per cent of cargo handling. These are not subject to TAMP.

There are arguments on the other side, too. “Even within the ambit of 12 major ports, there are countervailing arguments to TAMP. While major ports running losses argue against the abolition of TAMP, ports that are doing well favour doing away with it,” says another ministry official.

“Ports are not uniformly developed and nor are non-major ports uniformly distributed across the coastline. A blanket rule like this might not be the best bet,” said Hemant Bhattbhatt, chief executive of HMSA Consultancy Services. Jawaharlal Nehru Port Terminal on the west coast, for instance, handles about 60 per cent of the country’s container trade.
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Arjun wrote:Who Defines the Next Economic Giants
Jim O Neill wrote:What about the other BRIC countries? Some years after I first coined the acronym in 2001, I suggested that a BRIC economy should be regarded as one that was already producing or had the clear potential to produce 5 percent of global GDP or more. China’s is the only one that qualifies, but at the time I believed that the other three BRIC economies had that potential.

Today, the economies of Brazil, India and Russia are all generating around 3 percent of global GDP, similar to Italy. But the countries’ big populations and reforms to lift productivity still mean their economies have a reasonable chance of going above that 5 percent threshold. They may someday become giants.

At the time of writing, I am quite confident that India will make this leap — its economy has a really good chance of becoming the world’s third-largest before 2040. The country has exceptionally favorable demographics, and in electing Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India has given itself the best chance in at least 30 years of being run by a government that is not smothered by its democracy but flourishes instead.
Jim O Neill wrote:In addition to being as big as continental Europe’s three largest economies put together, China’s economy is about 55 percent the size of the United States’ in current U.S. dollars, and based on recent estimates from the World Bank International Comparison Program, it is probably slightly bigger than the United States’ in purchasing power parity terms.

It is also, in U.S.-dollar terms, one and a half times the size of the other three so-called BRIC economies combined (Brazil, Russia, India and China), and if its growth continues in the 7-7.5 percent vicinity, with inflation around 3 percent and the value of its renminbi stable to modestly rising, it is adding another $1 trillion to global GDP every year. I often point out to people that China is adding another India to the world economy every two years.
Is that correct ? wow that is some serious numbers. I share his optimism about India its just a question of time. Its very exciting.
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Burst of activity the moment political stability came by in the state (with the SS joining the govt), seems like.

Make in Maharashtra initiative: After Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh third BJP state to loosen up land and labour (ET)
NEW DELHI: The Modi government may not have been able to expedite amendments to the land acquisition or the Industrial Disputes Act, but BJPruled states are pushing ahead on this front. After Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra is moving to amend both laws as part of a drive to woo investments under its 'Make in Maharashtra' campaign, which is a state-level adaptation of the PM's 'Make in India' campaign.

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The newly elected state government has subsequently decided to work around the strict provisions of UPA's 2013 land acquisition Act by proposing the Centre to include the state's own MIDC Act in the list of exempted laws under which land can be acquired for specific purposes. In case of MIDC, the acquisition will be for industrial purposes.

At this stage, though, it remains unclear if the exemption can be brought into effect by a government notification or if the proposal would require an amendment to the original Act, which would have to be cleared by Parliament.

Officials who attended the meetings confirmed these plans. "We are not against the formula of compensation to land owners decided by the present Act. But we have prepared our case saying that special Acts supersede the general Act; that is our interpretation. Thus, the special Act — in this case the MIDC Act which came into effect in 1961 for orderly establishment of industrial districts to maintain the state's industrial balance — should prevail," said MIDC CEO Bhushan Gagrani.
Aha. new manouvering around the edges... sad that reform can;t be frontally taken on due to Rajya sabha shenanigans.

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We should carefully monitor the current economic warfare unleashed on Russia. Their currency is under constant attack. India needs to find out what mechanisms are used and ensure such entities are not in India in any form. The attack on the ensuring the value of their exports are down and thus again impacting their currency and economic well being. The next step would be to raise peaceful struggle against putin, followed by an armed struggle.

India should spent some time analysing these activities to see they might be played out in India, if west were to venture down that path.
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vinod wrote:We should carefully monitor the current economic warfare unleashed on Russia. Their currency is under constant attack. India needs to find out what mechanisms are used and ensure such entities are not in India in any form. The attack on the ensuring the value of their exports are down and thus again impacting their currency and economic well being. The next step would be to raise peaceful struggle against putin, followed by an armed struggle.

India should spent some time analysing these activities to see they might be played out in India, if west were to venture down that path.
I agree with your points I think ultimately regime change is what the west wants when it comes to Putin.

Now back to topic the only way for India to be immune from this kind of economic warfare is to isolate itself from the West. Unfortunately that will only do more harm then good. If India wants to be richer and multiply the size of its GDP then it must trade with the West and be interconnected with the world and take the risk.
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Narendra Modi's Ambitious Disinvestment Target: How Realistic Is It?
In the last few years, India has tried to reduce its fiscal deficit by generating revenue from selling its stakes in profitable state-owned companies. But, historical records dating back to 1991 -- the year India liberalized and privatized its economy and began dismantling its industrial licensing regime -- show that the country has mostly missed its disinvestment targets. The government exceeded its target only four times -- in 1994-95, 1998-99, 2003-04 and 2004-05 -- and in 2007-08 and 2009-10, no targets were fixed, but the government generated a considerable sum from the process.

Modi, who came to power on a pro-business campaign promise and who has been welcomed by the country's financial markets, is banking on a bullish stock market to help meet his targets. On Dec. 2, brokerage firm Morgan Stanley said that it expects the benchmark BSE Sensex stock index to climb nearly 15 percent from current levels by December 2015.

“Sentiment is strong with support from flows and momentum – our market timing indicator suggests that market mood is buoyant though yet to hit exuberant territory,” The Financial Express quoted Morgan Stanley as having said in a research note. “Our view is the government’s reforms are on track and if these reforms progress well, we see upside risk to earnings estimates.”

The Modi government has also been trying to attract investments into the country ever since it took office in May. In its latest move, on Dec. 3, it relaxed rules governing foreign direct investment in the country’s construction sector, which of late, has seen some headwinds. Under the new rules, foreign investors can now pour money into smaller projects than before and the minimum capital investment by foreign companies has also been halved to $5 million, according to Reuters.

However, even if the Modi government does manage to meet its divestment target, or come close to doing so, questions linger about how the money would be put to use. As this blog in The Times of India notes, the money that the government raises from such divestment is likely to be put back into recapitalizing state-owned banks and the Indian Railways. In other words, the money would effectively be routed back into state coffers. Moreover, as the blog points out, state-owned insurer Life Insurance Corporation of India typically ends up rescuing the government's divestment effort by buying huge chunks of the shares on offer, especially if markets don't react enthusiastically to the stake sale.

Further, Modi’s divestment plans continue to face stiff resistance from trade unions. Workers at Coal India Ltd, the world’s single-largest producer of the mineral, have frequently threatened to strike work if the government dilutes stake in the company. The latest of such threats was issued earlier this week. This is a significant hurdle as the government hopes to meet nearly a half of its divestment target by selling its stake in Coal India. Unions of other former government-owned companies, including Hindustan Zinc Ltd and BALCO, in which the government wants to liquidate its residual stake too are opposed to the move.
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vina wrote:Naidu is majorly pitching Tada for TN business folks and is doing to Chennai with Tada , what TN did to Bangalore with Hosur. Earlier as a kid I remember visiting Sriharikota from Chennai, an awful 6 hour ride on a bus, with Tada being a smelly su-soo stop on the way. Now some 5 years ago, on the way back from Tirupati, I via Kalahasti , Sulurpet and via Tada , and entered Chennia near Anna Nagar therabouts all within an hour or so only , on fast 4 lane expressway, smoother than Hema Malini's cheeks!

Same with the proposed manufacturing investments in Bangalore, which anyways the govt simply doesn't allow to happen because the land is so hard to get, and of course the comatose Siddaramiah govt is so criminally incompetent that a company like Infy is walking away from the Devenahalli IT park , because those numbskulls can't lay a road in 4 years and provide water mains! Just drive some 20 kms north, and you hit Andhra , and you get land, power, water and everything in a jiffy and are welcomed with a red carpet.

If Naidu plays it well, with Devanahalli just some 30 kms or so away, Andhra can attract a whole host of IT/Auto/Aero and other stuff that the KA govt was hoping to get around Devanahalli. In fact, from parts of Rayalaseema to Devanahalli, it is a shorter distance and an orders of magnitude easier commute to the airport than from Electronics City or the ORR areas!

So Naidu is hitting both TN and KA in the gonads at both their key economic and political centres.. Chennai and Bangalore. Way to go. All powers to him. I have always maintained that competition is good and we need a pirate like Naidu to run that kind of no prisoners taken game. That is the only way a comatose and head stuck in the muck "welfare/dole/social engg" oriented govt like Siddaramiah's , whose business model is to bleed Bangalore dry and spend on doles kind of thing can be made to do "behaviour modification" and smell the coffee.
Good post.

I think Andhra folks natural business acumen, matched with the TN nose to the grindstone, matched with the KA mediation can turn this triangle into a powerful power center to shake the world. Vizag is too far though, capital needs to be closer to TN/KA to take advantage. Chennai/Bengluru need a commercial capital to the North to match them, maybe Kurnool. Close, well watered, plenty of non-agriculture land, nice little cross roads. Don’t put it in the fertile delta plains whatever you do!!! I don’t even think Amravathi is a good idea as land is already super-duper expensive. The problem Andhra has suffered from is a lack of good colleges and as a corollary a lack of skilled people. Take SRICITY near Chennai. It has become a subsidy zone for Chennai. Andhra government provides land, water, electricity, low taxes, but all the manufacturing benefits go to Chennai and not Andhra. All the people who work there are form Chennai so income tax all goes to TN. This is the reason even Hosur has been resistant to growth. People won’t settle in Hosur so growth remains limited. Its population remains stagnant in the 100,000+/- range, about the size of 10 blocks of Indra nagar!! The ideal city to develop is Chittoor. Bang half way between Chennai & Bangluru. Push for a new HSR rail & new highway 6 lane thru Chittoor. Acquire cheap land around the cit and industrialize. We will have a new Pearl River/Guangzhou on our hands....
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Theo_Fidel wrote:
vina wrote:Naidu is majorly pitching Tada for TN business folks and is doing to Chennai with Tada , what TN did to Bangalore with Hosur. Earlier as a kid I remember visiting Sriharikota from Chennai, an awful 6 hour ride on a bus, with Tada being a smelly su-soo stop on the way. Now some 5 years ago, on the way back from Tirupati, I via Kalahasti , Sulurpet and via Tada , and entered Chennia near Anna Nagar therabouts all within an hour or so only , on fast 4 lane expressway, smoother than Hema Malini's cheeks!

Same with the proposed manufacturing investments in Bangalore, which anyways the govt simply doesn't allow to happen because the land is so hard to get, and of course the comatose Siddaramiah govt is so criminally incompetent that a company like Infy is walking away from the Devenahalli IT park , because those numbskulls can't lay a road in 4 years and provide water mains! Just drive some 20 kms north, and you hit Andhra , and you get land, power, water and everything in a jiffy and are welcomed with a red carpet.

If Naidu plays it well, with Devanahalli just some 30 kms or so away, Andhra can attract a whole host of IT/Auto/Aero and other stuff that the KA govt was hoping to get around Devanahalli. In fact, from parts of Rayalaseema to Devanahalli, it is a shorter distance and an orders of magnitude easier commute to the airport than from Electronics City or the ORR areas!

So Naidu is hitting both TN and KA in the gonads at both their key economic and political centres.. Chennai and Bangalore. Way to go. All powers to him. I have always maintained that competition is good and we need a pirate like Naidu to run that kind of no prisoners taken game. That is the only way a comatose and head stuck in the muck "welfare/dole/social engg" oriented govt like Siddaramiah's , whose business model is to bleed Bangalore dry and spend on doles kind of thing can be made to do "behaviour modification" and smell the coffee.
Good post.

I think Andhra folks natural business acumen, matched with the TN nose to the grindstone, matched with the KA mediation can turn this triangle into a powerful power center to shake the world. Vizag is too far though, capital needs to be closer to TN/KA to take advantage. Chennai/Bengluru need a commercial capital to the North to match them, maybe Kurnool. Close, well watered, plenty of non-agriculture land, nice little cross roads. Don’t put it in the fertile delta plains whatever you do!!! I don’t even think Amravathi is a good idea as land is already super-duper expensive. The problem Andhra has suffered from is a lack of good colleges and as a corollary a lack of skilled people. Take SRICITY near Chennai. It has become a subsidy zone for Chennai. Andhra government provides land, water, electricity, low taxes, but all the manufacturing benefits go to Chennai and not Andhra. All the people who work there are form Chennai so income tax all goes to TN. This is the reason even Hosur has been resistant to growth. People won’t settle in Hosur so growth remains limited. Its population remains stagnant in the 100,000+/- range, about the size of 10 blocks of Indra nagar!! The ideal city to develop is Chittoor. Bang half way between Chennai & Bangluru. Push for a new HSR rail & new highway 6 lane thru Chittoor. Acquire cheap land around the cit and industrialize. We will have a new Pearl River/Guangzhou on our hands....
TN Govt assures ‘full support’ to industrialists

Coimbatore, Dec 6:

Fearing flight of capital to other states and tax haven, Tamil Nadu Ministers are now gearing up to woo existing and prospective investors by offering complete support.

“We are with you,” asserted Tamil Nadu Minister for Industries P Thangamani
, addressing a group of industrialists, during a session organised by the Confederation of Indian Industry at Grand Regent in Coimbatore.

This curtain raiser event, the first in the series, proposed ahead of the State Government's Global Investors' Summit scheduled in May next, seemed to seek the support from industrialists in this region.

“Coimbatore has emerged as an industrial destination. Thanks to the efforts and initiatives taken by entrepreneurs,” he said, adding “the city has reposed faith in the Government. We in-turn assure you full support in your endeavours.” Conceding to delay in project off-take, the Minister reiterated “full support” from the Government's side, stating “we will ensure clearance in 30 days. Certain political outfits are trying to thwart our move, but we will not yield to such pressures. Our ultimate goal is to realise the State's Vision 2023,” he said, seeking support.

During the discussion, Thangamani did not fail to mention the visit of Chief Ministers of Karnataka and Madhya Pradesh earlier this year, inviting investors from this region to invest in their respective states. “Your entrepreneurial cult and capability has caught the attention of many people. But don't act haste or lose heart. We are with you in your journey,” he said, quickly adding “there will be flight of investments only if the infrastructure is good. Andhra Pradesh might have enough cotton, but there is acute shortage of skilled labour. Law and order situation should be congenial.

Apart from assuring support, Thangamani told industry captains that a meeting would be convened with officials and industry associations to enable the stakeholders to clarify issues and differences. He said this in response to issues raised by industry associations here about VAT refund, reworking the Master Plan for Coimbatore and so on.

Pitching Tamil Nadu as an attractive industrial destination, Thangamani said “nearly a-fourth of Japanese companies have set shop in TN. This reflects the facilities provided by the TN Government.”
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Im surr the coinbatore guys appraised the minister of the power situation there too.
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