Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 30 Dec 2016 04:08

Social Humour: How Pakistan was trolled in 2016

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LokeshC · Post by **LokeshC** » 30 Dec 2016 04:49

Falijee wrote:" Wrongly Caught " Baluchi In Berlin Attack Now Fears For His Life !

Man wrongly arrested over Berlin attack says he fears for his life

Naveed Baloch was crossing a road in central Berlin on the evening of 19 December, having just left a friend’s house. He was halfway over it when, seeing a car heading towards him, he increased his speed. “I then realised it was a police car. I stopped when they beckoned to me, and showed them all the ID had on me.” Wrong man at the wrong place, at the wrong time !

Aww crap. I was happy that Bakistans name was tarnished and one less Baki for Germany to worry about, but he is a Balochi guy and it makes me sad

. His family would be roasted alive by the ISI now.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 Dec 2016 05:51

SSridhar wrote:'Experience Pakistan' project being launched in United States: Jilani - DT

Hasn't the whole world 'experienced' Pakistan?

Hasn't the whole world 'experienced' ENOUGH OF Pakistan?

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 Dec 2016 06:30

No foreign direct investment in KP since PTI took over

PESHAWAR: The flow of foreign direct investment into Khyber Pakhtunkhwa remained zero during the last three and a half years tenure of the PTI-led government as the province relied on loans, foreign assistance and federal receipts. ( Province begs from Fed Govt ; Fed Govt begs from world !)Adviser to the chief minister on information Mushtaq Ahmad Ghani told a news conference here on Wednesday that FDI didn’t come to the province during the last three and a half years due to the delicate security situation and bad governance.

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Heck even the industrialists in PTI and imran's rich friends in London didn't bet a single penny in his administration of KPK.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 Dec 2016 06:52

Raheel appearing for his job interview ?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Dec 2016 10:43

Pakistan's former army chief Raheel Sharif may have a bigger job now - PTI

Pakistan's former army chief General (retd) Raheel Sharif is expected to be appointed defence advisor of a Saudi Arabia-led military alliance of 39 countries, according to a media report.

Sharif, who arrived in Saudi Arabia as a royal guest in a special plane, will attend a grand reception being hosted in his honour in Riyadh, the capital of the kingdom, The New International reported.

The reception will also be attended by the members of the Royal family.

Sharif, who retired as the army chief last month, is expected to be appointed defence advisor of Saudi Arabia-led military alliance, the paper said.

The Joint Command Centre, headquarters of the military alliance, is located in Riyadh.

The Saudi-led coalition, involving several Arab nations, launched a military operation in Yemen in March 2015 after Houthis drove out the government led by President Abdu Rabbu Mansour Hadi, who is believed to be in exile in Saudi Arabia.

According to Saudi Arabia, the alliance is formed to fight ISIS and other militant outfits.

At the time of its constitution, there were 34 countries in the alliance which has raised to 39.

The countries include Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Tunisia, Sudan, Malaysia, Egypt, Yemen and others.

So, now, that was the reason why he went quietly without creating a fuss or mounting a coup. Have the Saudis done a favour to Nawaaz or is it the other way around or both true ?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 30 Dec 2016 11:02

^^^^^^^

With the pakis, just follow the stench of money, which usually leads to rotting human carcasses.

la.khan · Post by **la.khan** » 30 Dec 2016 11:39

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan's former army chief Raheel Sharif may have a bigger job now - PTI
Pakistan's former army chief General (retd) Raheel Sharif is expected to be appointed defence advisor of a Saudi Arabia-led military alliance of 39 countries, according to a media report.

Sharif, who arrived in Saudi Arabia as a royal guest in a special plane, will attend a grand reception being hosted in his honour in Riyadh, the capital of the kingdom, The New International reported.

The reception will also be attended by the members of the Royal family.

Sharif, who retired as the army chief last month, is expected to be appointed defence advisor of Saudi Arabia-led military alliance, the paper said.

The Joint Command Centre, headquarters of the military alliance, is located in Riyadh.

The Saudi-led coalition, involving several Arab nations, launched a military operation in Yemen in March 2015 after Houthis drove out the government led by President Abdu Rabbu Mansour Hadi, who is believed to be in exile in Saudi Arabia.

According to Saudi Arabia, the alliance is formed to fight ISIS and other militant outfits.

At the time of its constitution, there were 34 countries in the alliance which has raised to 39.

The countries include Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Tunisia, Sudan, Malaysia, Egypt, Yemen and others.
So, now, that was the reason why he went quietly without creating a fuss or mounting a coup. Have the Saudis done a favour to Nawaaz or is it the other way around or both true ?

So, looks like the paki dude got himself a new job. On the upside, he may get to be a Field Marshal; on the downside, if the Saudis want to go to a war, will FM sahib agree to send his fellow pakis for some Momin-on-Momin action? What if pakis in Isloo refuse to join?

Looks like the Saudis now have the pakis in a vice like grip

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 30 Dec 2016 12:32

Raheel was the one who declined to deploy his Paki sepoys to oust the Houthis in Yemen. Have the Arabas swallowed the insult and moved on to bigger things in their lives?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Dec 2016 12:36

Paul wrote:Raheel was the one who declined to deploy his Paki sepoys to oust the Houthis in Yemen. Have the Arabas swallowed the insult and moved on to bigger things in their lives?

The Saudis have no other option. Their Generals are absolutely useless as are their foot soldiers. The only decent guys they can get are from Pakistan. They started an unwinnable war and want somebody to extricate them without loss of face. This shows that the days when the Saudis had limitless leverage with Pakistan are coming to an end. That's why the list of 3½ Friends needs to be reconstituted.

wig · Post by **wig** » 30 Dec 2016 14:14

some advice

Lord Nazir, member of the British House of Lords, addressing Punjab University students, said that Pakistani people have supported the Kashmir cause but he has one complaint with Pakistani politicians. He said Pakistan should also support Sikh separatist movements in India. He went on to say that Pakistan needed to mount an adequate response to Modi’s threat to close off water supplies, or else they really would be closed down.

http://www.thefridaytimes.com/tft/nugge ... press-170/

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 30 Dec 2016 15:30

^^ You can take the Paki out of Pakistan....

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 30 Dec 2016 16:05

Why just a Paki and leave original of the 4fathers out of the discussion.

rgosain · Post by **rgosain** » 30 Dec 2016 16:10

A free Khalistan, liberated with the assistance of Pakistan, should be able to accommodate all of those from certain faiths or none, who have been suffering under Intolerance. Maybe they can also extend a hand to the Uighurs and the Rohinga peoples too.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 30 Dec 2016 16:18

SSridhar wrote: The Saudis have no other option. Their Generals are absolutely useless as are their foot soldiers. The only decent guys they can get are from Pakistan. They started an unwinnable war and want somebody to extricate them without loss of face. This shows that the days when the Saudis had limitless leverage with Pakistan are coming to an end. That's why the list of 3½ Friends needs to be reconstituted.

The leverage US has over Pakis is economical (direct aid, and loans / aid through IMF, WB, etc), military (weapons, spares, training to fauji,), cultural (almost all Paki VIPs have their wards studying or working in either US or UK or Australia), social (most Paki elite have strings that can be pulled by the culinary institute of america) and global influence (UN, various global forums). Pakis do have some leverage over USA - by their control over land access to Afghanistan, by their control over various terror groups of interest to US, especially certain Taliban factions.

The leverage Saudis have over Pakis is economic (free / subsidised oil, largest source of gainful employment to aam abdul pakis, forex earnings through repatriation, direct and indirect aid), religious and social (many of their elites have Dubai / Saudi links and their strings can be pulled by Saudis when they want to). Pakis in turn also have a good degree of leverage - firstly as the custodians of islamic bum, secondly as mercenaries to paronoid Arab royalty. Given that except for Turykey and Egypt, no other Umma state has a professional army that can be rented, Sunni Gulf states increasingly need Pakistan even though they hate the traitorous nature of Pakis.

The leverage China has over Pakistan is economic and military. Pukis have very little leverage over China except for their use against India and in their ability to mortage their land to Chinese (aksai-chin and Gwadhar port).

Turkey is another country which is trying to fill the gaps left by Saudi and Uncle in their engagement with Pukis. They dont have much leverage over Pakistan except for some occasional economic aid and/or military assistance but Pakistan have equal leverage over them as Pakis have strategic islamic bums which Turkey doesn't have.

In such analysis where we factor in military, economic and cultural / religious factors we often tend to overlook the "I" factor (or India factor), which trumps everything else for Pakis. Of all the countries that have leverage over Pakistan (China, US, Saudi, Turkey), only China shares its antipathy towards India. Saudi and Turkey may dislike India as land of heathens, but dont have any inherent enemity with India. This factor combined with other cases makes China the first and primary sugar daddy of Pakistan and Pakis have absolutely no leverage against China (except for access to Afghanistan to loot its wealth and in providing port access).

In current schema of things, I think China, US, Saudi and Turkey are the 3.5 sugar-daddys of Pakistan in that order. The direction of Afghan end game and US tilt towards India can make US move to #3 slot by 2020.

In case anyone is wondering as to why UK is left out in this list, its not because they don't have influence. They continue to have outside influence on Pakistan and in Pakistan compared to their influence on India or in India. However, it is difficult to see UK pursuing an independent foregin policy in Af-Pak region outside of the overall contours provided by Uncle sam. That makes UK's influence and reach in Paki an attribute of US influence instead of independent influence.

wig · Post by **wig** » 30 Dec 2016 16:20

http://www.dawn.com/news/1305358/two-pe ... m-yar-khan

meanwhile

Two people injured in blast outside mosque in Rahim Yar Khan

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 30 Dec 2016 16:21

X-post TSP Multimedia dhaga

Mahira Khan who is all set for her Bollywood debut with Shah Rukh Khan in Raees is seen taking a dig at India and Bollywood in a Pakistani chat show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWvO--QvYpQ

Pakistaniyat in full display

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 30 Dec 2016 16:41

Kashi wrote:Mahira Khan who is all set for her Bollywood debut with Shah Rukh Khan in Raees is seen taking a dig at India and Bollywood in a Pakistani chat show.

Who is the fat guy? Apparently he has many Indian contacts.

shashankk · Post by **shashankk** » 30 Dec 2016 16:49

Wanted to post it in CPEC thread. Its somehow linked to CPEC as well.
UAE Deputy Prime Minister's convoy attacked in Balochistan, Pakistan red faced
http://ummid.com/news/2016/December/29. ... istan.html

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 Dec 2016 17:21

Chinese authorities approve inclusion of 3 Sindh projects in CPEC

I liken CPEC to a rich uncle (China ) deciding to gift a basic (no frill )new Toyota or a Honda car to his ("not so well off") nephew ( Pakistan ) on his 25th birthday. Next thing you know, the nephew wants an airconditioner installed (power plants!) saying that it is a necessity you cannot live without !. After a few weeks, other nephews ( Sind, KP, ) convince him that you need a GPS (roads) in the car , as without GPS (roads) you will not be able to drive !. Another nephew (Balochistan) wants leather seats (security arrangements ) as roads are very bumpy ( internal unrest) in that area!. The rich uncle regrets the original decision to gift the car and sends out a directive that enough is enough ( see above )

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 30 Dec 2016 17:26

anupmisra wrote:Who is the fat guy? Apparently he has many Indian contacts.

That would be Umar Shareef, the has-been, well past-his-prime comedian.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Dec 2016 17:39

Falijee wrote: I liken CPEC to a rich uncle (China ) deciding to gift a basic (no frill )new Toyota or a Honda car to his ("not so well off") nephew ( Pakistan ) on his 25th birthday. . . . .

Except that the uncle never meant it as a gift. He wanted the nephew to return the cost with a high rate of interest. The nephew, right from the beginning, had no such intention. He had also cheated a few, including another dada, and was confident that the uncle needed him more than he needed his uncle. The uncle was well aware of the duplicitous nature of his nephew too because it runs in the genes of both, being part of the same family. He has also planned to handle his own nephew in the same way he very successfully handled other clients of his pawn-broking business, seize their properties.

Falijee · Post by **Falijee** » 30 Dec 2016 22:10

China blocks India's bid at UN to blacklist Jaish-e-Mohammad chief Masood Azhar
Reuters

Was probably expected by India !

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 30 Dec 2016 22:17

Question has always been - "what will we do about it?".

China also realizes that Modi is in a spot of political bother due to demo and the govt. may not be all that focussed on foreign policy at this point.

Time to land LCA in Vietnam I'd say. Let's have a 2nd line of LCA in vietnam. If we have to bankroll russian R&D then may be Vietnam (and others) can bankroll our R&D.

venug · Post by **venug** » 30 Dec 2016 22:41

GShankar wrote:Question has always been - "what will we do about it?".

China also realizes that Modi is in a spot of political bother due to demo and the govt. may not be all that focussed on foreign policy at this point.

Time to land LCA in Vietnam I'd say. Let's have a 2nd line of LCA in vietnam. If we have to bankroll russian R&D then may be Vietnam (and others) can bankroll our R&D.

Why do we have to depend on third nation to act on our behalf? scaring China by arming Vietnam can only go so much, if we have to arm Vietnam against China so be it, research too is welcome plan. But we MUST act on Tibet, more importantly, PoK, We need it back, this will bring CPEC to a close, TSP, Russia and China are coming together in Afg, PoK action will also divert TSP attention. PoK MUST be retaken.

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 30 Dec 2016 22:49

On your analogy, china could also attacked us instead of arming pakistan. It is not called depending on. It is more like having others fight for you, for a cost ofcourse. Additionally there is strategic positioning - if china could be in myanmar, srilanka, gwadar, karakoram, etc. why can't we be in camhranbay?

To take PoK, you need the opportune moment. We can wait for it or we can create it. Arming vietnam is one small step in the larger strategy to create the opportune moment. I am sure we'll take it.

Rishi Verma · Post by **Rishi Verma** » 30 Dec 2016 22:51

I don't know why we take the UN so seriously. As Trump said its a playground for diplomats "to have a good time". Unless we Brahmos the mofo Masood with his family and his harem of she-goats the world won't take us seriously.

venug · Post by **venug** » 30 Dec 2016 23:04

Arming countries is not the same. TSP is anyone's bitch, all it needs is someone who can arm and fund it perpetually to fight against India. China is leveraging this hatred. Secondly TSP is a irrational country, it's hate for India has consumed it. Are you suggesting Vietnam will do the same and do our bidding to draw your analogy?

What better opportune moment than this to retake PoK? you arm Vietnam to form an opportunity to retake PoK ? I don't know how.

Say tomorrow CPEC gets completed and more nations do participate and be part of CPEC (this is a hypothetical situation, not arguing this will happen) using Indian territory, if so how easy is it to wrest PoK from TSP given that TSP/China will protect CPEC and possibly more nations might support TSP to protect it's/their interests? how then strategically Aligning with Vietnam will deter China from it's OBOR/CPEC plans?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 30 Dec 2016 23:07

Fully Posted on the Analyzing CPEC Thread

CPEC soars to Rs5,700 bn

Bhasha Dam, Peshawar-Karachi railway line, Karachi Circular Railways approved; Keti Bandar, special economic zones, three energy projects in Sindh added to project; Orange Line trains for all provincial capitals

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and China have formally approved to include ML-1 Peshawar-Karachi railway line project and some infrastructure projects in the framework of the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), jacking up its overall size from $46 billion to $54 billion (approx Rs5,700 billion) as well as establishing eight industrial estates located in all the four provinces and special areas, including Fata, AJK, Gilgit-Baltistan and Islamabad Capital Territory (ICT).

He said that one proof of success of CPEC is that today think tanks from all over the world, including America, Canada and Europe, are doing research to analyse the impact of CPEC in the region. The minister maintained that CPEC had added more value to the friendship of China and Pakistan. CPEC had become the north star of friendship between China and Pakistan, making the friendship even higher than skies.

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Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Dec 2016 23:38

Pakistan’s water/ Brain/Nikoh/Talak/Namardgi/Randiapa and all other Syapa security made part of CPEC framework

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and China on Thursday decided to make water security a part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) framework amid threats by India to review its position on the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty.The decision to exploit full hydel potential of Pakistan was taken during the sixth meeting of the Joint Cooperation Committee (JCC) of the CPEC which was held in Beijing. The JCC is the highest policy making forum of the CPEC.The JCC also decided, in principle, to make the mass transit projects of all four provinces part of the CPEC. These projects will be formally made part of the CPEC after their financial and technical vetting by Working Group on Transport in February next year.For development of hydroelectric projects on the Indus River, particularly construction of the Diamer-Bhasha dam, the JCC on Thursday constituted a group, said Planning and Development Minister Ahsan Iqbal after the meeting. The planning ministry released the video of his statement.“Pakistan may face a very severe water crisis and for economic and food security of the country, the immediate construction of Diamer-Bhasha is crucial,” he said. If the Diamer-Bhasha dam becomes part of the CPEC, it will be a landmark achievement, he added.For more than two decades, Pakistan has been trying to construct the Diamer-Bhasha dam that has an estimated cost of $14 billion. Due to opposition by India, both the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank have refused to lend money under one pretext or another.After the rise in tensions along the Line of Control (LoC) in recent months, India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi had threatened to cut Pakistan’s water supply. He has managed to influence the WB that recently paused the process of playing mediator, which it is bound to play under the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty, according to experts on the accord. Chinese help to secure Pakistan’s water rights will be seen as a major development, according to them.The Indus River is a source of more than 17 gigawatts of hydropower capacity in India and Pakistan and feeds the Indus Basin Irrigation System, the largest contiguous irrigation network in the world. Pakistan is particularly dependent on the Indus, as more than 90% of its agricultural production comes from this basin.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 30 Dec 2016 23:41

X Posted on Analyzing CPEC Thread

Pakistan’s water security made part of CPEC framework

Anticipate next news item : Pakistan made part of CPEC!

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svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 31 Dec 2016 00:59

China blocks proposal at UN to list Masood Azhar as designated terrorist

China snubs India again, blocks proposal at UN to list Masood Azhar as terrorist

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 31 Dec 2016 01:04

Terror strikes against India may increase

China is encouraging strikes on India

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 31 Dec 2016 01:14

PCB Gets Green Light For Legal Action Against BCCI

will the case be fillied in a sharya court? last i checked cricket was Haram so case closed.

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/pcb-get ... ome-sports

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 31 Dec 2016 01:38

It is upto us w.r.t how we look at this. I look at this as - China is actually helping India. It is telling India to grow the balls to go and nab the mullah.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 Dec 2016 01:54

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 Dec 2016 02:01

GShankar wrote:It is upto us w.r.t how we look at this. I look at this as - China is actually helping India. It is telling India to grow the balls to go and nab the mullah.

China will use every ingredient to induce insecurity in Paki & 2 offer solace in lap to become Mai Baap and Paki need daily doze of Afeem from Chin-Raheem & Kareem to protect itself from getting raped on Tri-ends.

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 31 Dec 2016 02:07

venug wrote:Arming countries is not the same. TSP is anyone's bitch, all it needs is someone who can arm and fund it perpetually to fight against India. China is leveraging this hatred. Secondly TSP is a irrational country, it's hate for India has consumed it. Are you suggesting Vietnam will do the same and do our bidding to draw your analogy?

What better opportune moment than this to retake PoK? you arm Vietnam to form an opportunity to retake PoK ? I don't know how.

Say tomorrow CPEC gets completed and more nations do participate and be part of CPEC (this is a hypothetical situation, not arguing this will happen) using Indian territory, if so how easy is it to wrest PoK from TSP given that TSP/China will protect CPEC and possibly more nations might support TSP to protect it's/their interests? how then strategically Aligning with Vietnam will deter China from it's OBOR/CPEC plans?

Arming countries not the same you say, but that is the core of foreign policy of all western states. In fact it is the same. The difference is pakistan is already filled with pakis where as in other places your first create pakis and give them weapons. You can see that this is what is happening w.r.t to naxals, IM, etc. within India.

Arming Vietnam is not the be all and end all strategy. One arms as many of those who could cause trouble to china. You attack when your perceived and real enemies are weak. China did the same to us in 1962.

The timing was to their benefit. For us, an opportune moment could come when china is busy with someone like Taiwan for example and Vietnam could take their share of those islands. We can take Pok, aksai-chin and other places that are illegally taken from us, liberate balochistan and sindh. Try what we could about Tibet. So much to do due to 70 years of inactivity. And may be massa could be help to keep russia at bay (too sad the positions have reversed here). And massa gets free access to Afghanistan through balochistan. CPEC is screwed. Chabahar goes live.

GShankar · Post by **GShankar** » 31 Dec 2016 02:08

Prem wrote:
GShankar wrote:It is upto us w.r.t how we look at this. I look at this as - China is actually helping India. It is telling India to grow the balls to go and nab the mullah.
China will use every ingredient to induce insecurity in Paki & 2 offer solace in lap to become Mai Baap and Paki need daily doze of Afeem from Chin-Raheem & Kareem to protect itself from getting raped on Tri-ends.

True. We need to up the ante to call their bluff.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 Dec 2016 02:13

Nawaz to Osama : Al love also Jihad.

Prem wrote: