Internal Security Watch

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Sep 2014 06:54

The flood gates are opening up. There was a time until a few years back when India's plurality was touted as the reason for Indian Muslim jihadists not being caught from terrorism infested parts of the world. Even then, I felt an unease that such a situation was unlikely to continue for too long. Now, well educated Muslims are thronging to the more brutal IS from AP, TN, Maharashtra, J&K, Gujarat etc. We already have well-educated Muslims as part of IM. Shi'a from UP are going to Iraq to fight the IS and Sunnis are going to Syria to be part of the IS. Soon, they will return to create terror and sectarian violence in our country. This is what emboldens the ISI, AQ and the IS to imagine India as a fertile place for harvesting. Already, another faith has been harvesting souls in India for a long time and now we have this phenomenon. These terrorists and their families must be kept under surveillance. They must feel the hard pinch. And those who have gone on a hijra from Dar-ul-Aman to Dar-ul-Harb *MUST* not be allowed to return to Dar-ul-Aman. We do not need those vermin. They do not deserve to live here and propagate their jihadi ideas and take us back to medieval times. I am sure that the ISI will 'harvest' them at an appropriate time.

BTW, op-eds are appearing that these threats need not be taken seriously etc. It is such articles that are dangerous.
See for example, this

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Sep 2014 08:47

Key arrest in espionage case - Devesh K Pandey, The Hindu

The National Investigation Agency (NIA) said here on Wednesday that the arrest of a Sri Lankan national who gained access to several security sensitive installations was a breakthrough in an espionage case.

An NIA official said Arun Selvarajan was arrested in Chennai in connection with a case involving spying at the instance of an official of the Pakistan High Commission in Colombo.

This arrest is a continuation of an earlier arrest of Zakir Hussain, another Sri Lankan, in connection with plans to bomb the American & Israeli consulates in Chennai & Bangalore respectively.

The Pakistani embassy in Colombo has become a back door entry into India, the last bastion among our neighbours to fall for the ISI. It has been recruiting not only Sri Lankan & Tamilnadu Muslims but also digruntled and out-of-work Lankan Tamil Tigers as probably has happened in this case.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Sep 2014 09:47

NIA achieves breakthrough in espionage case - The Hindu

With arrest of Arun Selvarajan, a Sri Lankan national, in Chennai on Wednesday, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) says it has achieved a major breakthrough in the investigation of an espionage case.

According to an NIA official, the Sri Lankan national, on the pretext of running an event management company in Chennai, gained access to several security-sensitive installations.

“In coordination with the intelligence agencies, Arun Selvarajan, was arrested in Chennai in connection with a case registered in 2013 following the arrest of one Thameem Ansari who had been operating at the instance of Amir Zubair Siddique, an official in the Pakistan High Commission at Colombo in Sri Lanka,” the official said.

The accused has criminal cases pending against him in Sri Lanka, along with a look-out circular.

During interrogation, Arun is believed to have identified his immediate handler as Santhe, suspected to be a codename, who worked under Amir Siddiqui at the [Pakistani] High Commission in Colombo. The NIA has seized photographs and other evidence from Arun, allegedly revealing that he had gained access to offices of the National Security Guard hub near Chennai, the Coast Guard and the Officers Training Academy in Chennai.

NIA probe into the espionage ring has so far revealed that Amir Siddiqui had set up at least three modules, run by Thameem (arrested in September 2012), Sri Lankan national Muhammad Zakir Hussain (arrested in April) and Arun.

“Arun entered the country in 2011, after which he got himself enrolled in an aviation academy. We suspect that he was funded by his handlers. The accused then set up an event management company named Ice Events, which organised conferences, concerts and wedding receptions. He also floated a website for the company,” said the official.

In the garb of event management, Arun allegedly gained access to sensitive installations, clicked photographs and gathered crucial information to pass it on to his handlers through the Internet, said the official.

According to the NIA, Zakir Hussain conspired with Amir Siddique and his senior officer codenamed Boss and Shah, to cause explosions at the office of the U.S. Consulate in Chennai and Israel Embassy in Bangalore.

kish · Post by **kish** » 11 Sep 2014 23:40

Stephen tankel's article on Indian Mujahideen. It has the names of jihadis escaped from "batla" house encounter, alias names of IM module & other information.

The Indian Jihadist Movement: Evolution and Dynamics-Analysis

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Sep 2014 01:52

While chasing Paki spies what is the NIA doing about the Patna blasts case, the numerous Ind Muj cases?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Sep 2014 15:46

Espionage accused surveyed atomic plant: NIA - The Hindu

Arun Selvarajan, a Sri Lankan national arrested in Chennai on Wednesday for alleged espionage at the behest of Pakistan’s intelligence apparatus, conducted surveillance of the Madras Atomic Power Station, Kalpakkam, a National Investigation Agency official said.

Photographs obtained from his computers show that he surveyed the station at the instance of his handlers in the Pakistan High Commission in Colombo and shared photographs with them online. “Arun used Skype, WhatsApp and other platforms to interact with his handlers,” the official said.

Preliminary investigation revealed that the accused, who had been operating in South India since 2009, entered sensitive areas in the guise of an event manager and took photographs. After reconnaissance, he developed maps and sent them to his handlers. On an analysis of the CDs, one external and four internal hard disks, five cellphones and an iPad recovered from his possession, the police suspect that he could have developed maps of many vital installations, including those of defence establishments.

The NIA is concerned about the instructions Arun got a few months ago to survey crowded places in Chennai. “Investigations are under way to ascertain the motive,” the official said.

“We have come across several e-mail attachments and recorded conversations which have to be examined. Two PAN cards in his own name and under a false name, Sivagami Saravana Mutthu, have been seized, apart from a Sri Lankan and an Indian passport. Besides, ganja and six credit and debit cards were found,” the official said.

He purportedly gained access to the offices of the National Security Guard hub near Chennai, the Tamil Nadu Police headquarters, the Coast Guard and the Officers’ Training Academy of the Army in Chennai.

Cases in Sri Lanka

The accused has criminal cases pending against him in Sri Lanka, along with a look-out circular.

“Arun was handpicked by an agent in Colombo for this covert operation. Since three persons have already been arrested on espionage charges, we cannot rule out the possibility of more spies operating in the State,” an NIA official said.

During interrogation, Arun allegedly identified the name of his immediate handler as Santhe, suspected to be a codename, who worked under Amir Zubair Siddiqui at the High Commission. Amir Siddiqui has been accused of setting up at least three modules in southern India.

Based on a specific intelligence input, major ports, consulates and other sensitive establishments in the southern States have been asked to step up security, police sources said.

sum · Post by **sum** » 12 Sep 2014 15:47

^^ Why exactly is the NIA involved in counter-intel? What is the role of IB then?

Ranjani Brow · Post by **Ranjani Brow** » 12 Sep 2014 15:56

The manhunt for Yasin Bhatkal was India’s most meticulously planned undercover operation. An Open Exclusive chronicles India’s most sensational stakeout

deejay · Post by **deejay** » 12 Sep 2014 19:32

hecky wrote:The manhunt for Yasin Bhatkal was India’s most meticulously planned undercover operation. An Open Exclusive chronicles India’s most sensational stakeout

@hecky, thanks for the wonderful post. It was at the same time immensely pleasing and immensely frustrating to read about the ops. Our boys paid from their own pockets to nab Bhatkal

But an important report indeed. Well done 'Open' team.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 12 Sep 2014 19:58

But one SP has been outed in this article? Is that an IPC offense, are we getting side blinded?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 13 Sep 2014 05:16

It's open season on these a**holes now that we a nationalist PMO.

Tuan · Post by **Tuan** » 13 Sep 2014 06:06

SSridhar wrote:Key arrest in espionage case - Devesh K Pandey, The Hindu
The National Investigation Agency (NIA) said here on Wednesday that the arrest of a Sri Lankan national who gained access to several security sensitive installations was a breakthrough in an espionage case.

An NIA official said Arun Selvarajan was arrested in Chennai in connection with a case involving spying at the instance of an official of the Pakistan High Commission in Colombo.

This arrest is a continuation of an earlier arrest of Zakir Hussain, another Sri Lankan, in connection with plans to bomb the American & Israeli consulates in Chennai & Bangalore respectively.

The Pakistani embassy in Colombo has become a back door entry into India, the last bastion among our neighbours to fall for the ISI. It has been recruiting not only Sri Lankan & Tamilnadu Muslims but also digruntled and out-of-work Lankan Tamil Tigers as probably has happened in this case.

Here is a blog about LTTE nexus with ISI:
http://theltteinsider.blogspot.ca/2009/ ... ng_18.html

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 13 Sep 2014 09:42

Saradha scam shocker: Mamata Banerjee's aide, TMC MP's link with terror group SIMI, Jamat exposed

http://news.oneindia.in/india/mamata-ba ... 20240.html

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Sep 2014 12:30

Tamil Nadu man first ISIS suicide bomber from India? - ToI

Indian security agencies are verifying unconfirmed reports of a young suicide bomber of Chennai origin blowing himself up for the Islamic State (IS) in the Syria-Iraq theatre. If the reports about the Indian fidayeen are true it could have serious repercussions for India as this would be the first time that an Indian has been found involved in a suicide attack anywhere in the world.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Sep 2014 12:32

Tuan wrote:Here is a blog about LTTE nexus with ISI

Tuan, we know that nexus. We are also aware of Colombo's nexus with the ISI. Both warring parties have bedded the same whore.

Tuan · Post by **Tuan** » 13 Sep 2014 20:21

SSridhar wrote:
Tuan wrote:Here is a blog about LTTE nexus with ISI
Tuan, we know that nexus. We are also aware of Colombo's nexus with the ISI. Both warring parties have bedded the same whore.

True! But do not forget that the RAW also bedded with "both warring parties" in the past on different occasions. Isn't this the same story for all state sponsored terrorism throughout the world?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 13 Sep 2014 22:28

^^This is the Bharat Rakshak forum. When RAW does it, and if it is in our interest, and if it benefits India, then it is fine from our point of view. If it does not, then it is not fine, and lessons will be learned and adaptation will occur.

When anyone else does it, to India's detriment, it is not fine. India will not be happy. It will do what it can to end it. These days, it can do much more than it could in the past.

Or am I misunderstanding your post, and you are rather suggesting that it is OK for Pakistan to do what it is doing because India did it in the past?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 13 Sep 2014 22:40

This whole thing about "Al Qaeda" makes me

See what BRF had to say on this after careful research

What is Al Qaeda and how is it different from PA? Careful how u answer... Al Zuwahiri and PA Col. (Retarded) Abdul "Mullah" Omar will be

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 14 Sep 2014 07:33

Has Anandabaazar Patrika opened a can of worms for Mamata Banerjee?
http://news.oneindia.in/cj/dipin-d/has- ... e-scroll-1

member_20036 · Post by **member_20036** » 14 Sep 2014 10:48

Trinamul is a Scum. Its entire leadership need to be lynched.

Probe sought into Trinamool-Jamaat
link

Amidst reports of the Trinamool Congress’s alleged
funding of Jamaat-e-Islami, the Bangladesh-based
extremist group, Members of Parliament from both the
ruling Awami League and the Workers Party have
demanded a probe into the allegations.
The allegations gained ground as the Kolkota-based
Bengali daily Anandabazar Patrika reported on Friday
that crores of money from the Saradha chit fund scam
were used to instigate violence in Bangladesh. The
newspaper said the money made its way to the Jamaat
in 2012-13 through Ahmed Hassan Imran, a Rajya
Sabha member from Trinamool Congress.
Fazle Hossain Badsha, MP from northern Rajshahi,
bordering West Bengal, who is also general secretary of
the Workers Party, an ally of the Awami League, said
his party had expressed serious concern when the
Jamaat last year procured “gun powder” and funds
from across the border ahead of the January 5
elections. “We raised concerns because without consent
from the ruling party there, the Jamaat would not have
got such help to carry out violent anarchy,” he said.
Mostafa Lutfullah, Awami League MP from Satkhira,
said “We have enough evidence to prove that Jamaat
militants, when chased or injured during clashes with
police, crossed the border into West Bengal.” Satkhira,
on the border with West Bengal, was the centre of
widespread Jamaat-sponsored violence during last
year’s anti-election agitation. “We have also
information that the leaders of the Trinamool Congress
gave them shelter,” he said. He alleged that Jamaat
leaders and workers worked for the Trinamool during
the recent Lok Sabha elections.
News reports in Bangladesh have alleged that the
Jamaat, with close contacts with the TMC leadership,
has built a “base” in Kolkata and other parts of West
Bengal. Dhaka has already communicated its concerns
on the issue to New Delhi, newspapers said.
The Jamaat, in a statement, however, brushed aside
the allegations, terming it baseless and politically
motivated.
Authoritative sources told The Hindu that the NDA
government has already clarified its position on
confusion caused by last week’s private visit to Dhaka
of journalist and BJP leader M.J. Akbar. Mr. Akbar, met
leaders of the BNP, a staunch ally of the Jamaat, during
his visit. Mr. Akbar’s visit was his “own” and “nothing
to do” with BJP’s stand on Bangladesh, the BJP has
said.

http://m.thehindu.com/news/internationa ... nnel%3Dnew

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 15 Sep 2014 16:17

Scotland: impact on multiethnic democracies?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/1 ... ves-the-UK

MN Kumar · Post by **MN Kumar** » 15 Sep 2014 16:31

SSridhar wrote:The flood gates are opening up. There was a time until a few years back when India's plurality was touted as the reason for Indian Muslim jihadists not being caught from terrorism infested parts of the world. Even then, I felt an unease that such a situation was unlikely to continue for too long. Now, well educated Muslims are thronging to the more brutal IS from AP, TN, Maharashtra, J&K, Gujarat etc. We already have well-educated Muslims as part of IM. Shi'a from UP are going to Iraq to fight the IS and Sunnis are going to Syria to be part of the IS. Soon, they will return to create terror and sectarian violence in our country. This is what emboldens the ISI, AQ and the IS to imagine India as a fertile place for harvesting. Already, another faith has been harvesting souls in India for a long time and now we have this phenomenon. These terrorists and their families must be kept under surveillance. They must feel the hard pinch. And those who have gone on a hijra from Dar-ul-Aman to Dar-ul-Harb *MUST* not be allowed to return to Dar-ul-Aman. We do not need those vermin. They do not deserve to live here and propagate their jihadi ideas and take us back to medieval times. I am sure that the ISI will 'harvest' them at an appropriate time.

BTW, op-eds are appearing that these threats need not be taken seriously etc. It is such articles that are dangerous.
See for example, this

Very true Sridhar. Thejihadi climate has taken roots already and now there is a ready available man power for such factories. The timing of AQ's announcements and IM's active involvement in IS seems perfect.

Meanwhile Owaisi Jr. wellknown for his hate speeches was in Mumbai few days back addressing an election rally.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 16 Sep 2014 03:47

MN Kumar wrote:
Very true Sridhar. Thejihadi climate has taken roots already and now there is a ready available man power for such factories. The timing of AQ's announcements and IM's active involvement in IS seems perfect.

Meanwhile Owaisi Jr. wellknown for his hate speeches was in Mumbai few days back addressing an election rally.

The timing of AQ's announcements is not a coincidence
The leftist and the social experts have been seeing the changes to the all the regions due to the Jihadi machine from AfPak in the last 25 years. Kashmir was only the first step.

Uncle is involved in this as part of the media control and social change inside India. The identity politics being driven with 'secularism' was to cut through Indian old social setup. They have almost succeeded. The Indian elite and leftist groups have sowed the seeds of anarchy inside India and it was only time for an external trigger to spread it.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 16 Sep 2014 06:11

^^ we just need to accident few jihadis and sickulars to send a message. Put the fear of Death into these. Imagine Karan Thapar's car crashes into it

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Sep 2014 11:05

ISI effect: Police start enumeration of Lankans - ToI

Following the arrest of Arun Selvarajan, who is suspected to be an ISI agent, Tamil Nadu 'Q' branch sleuths have started enumerating Sri Lankans staying in Tamil Nadu.

Police sources said there are about 65,000 Sri Lankan Tamil refugees in the 114 camps in the state. There are more than 12,000 Sri Lankan Tamils with passports settled outside the camps. Selvarajan had got an Indian passport influencing some government officials, police said.

After trailing him for more than a month, NIA officials nabbed him at a hideout in Saligramam near Vadapalani on September 10. Police seized several incriminating documents, photographs of installations of NSG Academy, Officers' Training Academy, Naval bases and Army installations in Chennai, Vishakapatinam and 20 other places in south India. NIA officials had recovered from his apartment in Saligramam six mobile phones, a laptop, four hard disks, an iPad, 1TB portable drive and three pen drives.

Following his arrest, Intelligence Bureau sleuths had asked the state police to check for his probable accomplices. The 'Q' branch sleuths have been monitoring movements of refugees in camps, but they have little information about those staying outside. Sri Lankan nationals are supposed register at the nearest police station. "Some of them don't do this," said a police officer. "Now we have to make sure that every Sri Lankan is accounted for."

Policemen say unlike tracking other foreigners, it is not easy to identify and keep an eye on every Sri Lankan, especially if he is a Tamil. "With the looks and language, such people can easily merge with the local population," he said. But some have charged the police with inaction even after getting information. Sudhanthiram, who works for an NGO in Virugambakkam, said he had tipped off the city police about a Sri Lankan Tamil staying in an apartment on Arcot Road. "But police did not conduct any inquiry," he said.

'Q' branch sleuths said the enumeration would help them update their records. As NIA officials have taken Selvarajan into custody for six days, local police said they were awaiting more information on his activities in the city.

There is no need for Sri Lankan refugee camps anymore and they should all be sent back immediately. While many are genuine refugees, a significant number of them are terrorists, criminals and now Pakistani agents as well. With the end of LTTE, terror and the war and a Tamil administration in place in the North, these Sri Lankan Tamils must go back.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 18 Sep 2014 18:18

Centre sounds warning over foreign nationals buying immovable properties in India

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Written by Debabrata Mohanty | Bhubaneswar | Posted: September 18, 2014 5:43 pm | Updated: September 18, 2014 5:48 pm

Centre has sounded warning to State governments over reports that foreign nationals are buying immovable property illegally in some parts of the country in violation of the rules and regulations under FEMA.

In a recent letter to State governments including Orissa, Centre has intimated that foreign nationals coming to India and staying beyond 182 days on tourists visa or other visa meant for a certain period are illegally acquiring immovable property.

Quoting the warning, Orissa revenue secretary Dr Taradatt in a letter to all district collectors early this week wrote that a foreign national who is residing in India for more than 182 days for taking up employment or carrying on business or for any other purpose indicating his stay for uncertain period may acquire immovable property in India subject to fulfilling certain requirements prescribed by the State authorities.

“To be treated as a ‘person resident of India’ under FEMA, a person has not only to satisfy the condition of period of stay (being more than 182 days during the course of the preceding financial year), but has also to comply with the condition of the purpose of the stay. No person being a citizen of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, China, Iran, Nepal or Bhutan would acquire or transfer immovable property in India without prior permission of RBI,” the letter said.

The provisions contained in Foreign Exchange Management (Acquisition and Transfer of Immovable Property in India) Regulation-21/2000 stipulate that an Indian citizen residing outside India and a Person of Indian Origin residing outside India may acquire immovable property in India other than agricultural land, plantation or farm house.

A foreign company which has established a branch office or other place of business in India under the provision of Foreign Exchange Management (Establishment in India of Branch or office or other place of business) Regulations, 2000 can acquire immovable property in India which is a necessary for or incidental to carrying on such activity, subject to the conditions stipulated in Regulation 5 of Foreign Exchange Management Regulations, 2000.

The Centre made it clear that a foreign national who is residing in India for more than 182 days during the course of the preceding financial year for taking up employment or carrying on business/vacation or for any other purpose indicating his intention to stay for an uncertain period can acquire immovable property in India as he would be a person resident in India as per section 2(v) of the FEMA 1999.

To be treated as person resident in India under FEMA, a person has not only to satisfy the condition of the period of stay, but also his purpose of stay as well as the type of Indian visa granted to him to clearly indicate the intention to stay in India for an uncertain period. In this regard, the intention of stay has to be unambiguously established with supporting documentation including visa.

Orissa has now asked all the district collectors as well as sub-registrars to be extra vigilant in such matters and ensure eligibility under FEMA before registering sale or purchase of immovable properties by foreign nationals and seek necessary declarations and the verify the nature of visa from the intending buyer. The Centre has also asked the States to consider reviewing registration of sale/purchase already made if necessary.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 19 Sep 2014 08:00

Babbar Khalsa International de facto chief Ratandeep arrested - Rohan Dua, ToI

Lahore-based Babbar Khalsa International (BKI) terrorist outfit's de facto chief Ratandeep Singh, who had only last year replaced ailing Wadhawa Singh as the BKI head and was sent by Pakistan's ISI to carry out strikes in Punjab during Navratras, was arrested by Punjab police on Wednesday.

The over six-foot tall terrorist was wanted in several cases, including the 1999 bomb blast at Chandigarh's Sector 34 passport office and another blast on a Panipat railway bridge the same year .

He was sent to India as Hussain Sheikh Zahid (son of Sheikh Nasiruddin) and was arrested by the State Special Operations Cell (SSOC) team of Punjab police near Gorakhpur on late Wednesday. He was sent to 10-day police remand by an Amritsar court.

The 43-year-old had been tasked by ISI to eliminate several top Hindu leaders in Punjab, said police.

"A plan was conceived after PM Narendra Modi government was sworn in to use Bhindranwale's name to fan radicalism and polarise the communities after attacking Hindu leaders," a top Punjab cop told TOI.

Ratandeep's name had first cropped up last year in August during the interrogation of Lashkar-e-Taiba top militant Abdul Karim Tunda.

Tunda had revealed that he (Tunda) had sent a consignment of explosives to Delhi before the Commonwealth Games 2010 on the demand of BKI's Ratandeep and that the latter had taken over charge from Wadhawa.

Besides leading BKI, he had been picked up by the ISI to head an old terror outfit Bhindranwale Tigers Force of Khalistan (BTFK).

Punjab cops had been on his trail ever since he got training with one ISI commandant Colonel Sahbaz Minhas in Lahore in July this year.

He was first arrested by the police on May 9, 1996, while sneaking into India through the Samba sector but managed to escape.

Ratandeep, who belongs to Rohar village of Jind in Haryana began his terror activities in 1992 when he went to Bangkok and then to Germany.

He got in touch with Babbar Khalsa operatives in Pakistan in March 1993 when he went to Lahore on a forged passport issued in the name of Harjinder Singh from Kapurthala. He then underwent arms training in August 1993 and June 1994 at a camp located in hilly terrain, 45 km off Islamabad.

Just to recap who the other Punjab terrorists who are still in Pakistan.

Some of the Khalistani terrorists, notably members of the Babbar Khalsa group including Babbar Khalsa International (BKI) chief Wadhawan Singh Babbar (he was one of the forty terrorists who was wanted by India from Pakistan and who is also involved in the 1985 Kanishka bombing) and the hijackers of several Indian Airlines planes between circa 1981 and 1984, like Gajendra Singh of Dal Khalsa and his associates, and the one who planted the bomb in Air-India’s flight AI 182 Kanishka and Khalistani Zindabad Force (KZF) including its chief Ranjit Singh Neeta and International Sikh Youth Federation leader Lakhbir Singh Brar who was one of the three to have placed the bomb on the plane, trained and armed by the ISI, took refuge in Lahore, Pakistan and continue to operate from there. It also includes Paramjit Singh Panjawar, the chief of Khalistan Commando Force (KCF) , who lives in Pakistan, runs terrorist training camps and actively plans and excutes terror strikes in India. Similarly, leaders of the Babbar Khalsa International and International Sikh Youth Federation who were involved in the assassination of the Punjab Chief Minister, Beant Singh, took refuge in Pakistan.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 19 Sep 2014 18:09

I hope Ajit Doval senda a strong message by eliminating some ISI/Puke Army generals to send a strong message to Al-Kida/ISI scums that they are not dealing with same anti-India traitors now who will leave them and their families alone if they try their regular shit like they were doing for last 30 years. Zia-ul-Hug's policy implementers should fell the pain of terrorism against India with the help of MQ and Indian media/COMMIE scums.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 22 Sep 2014 20:57

X-post: Times group trying to start trouble.

SSridhar wrote: Simply shameful & pathetic. Somebody should have told the hotel and the mall to do so. It needs to be found out.

SSridharji don't fall for MSM tricks. This story was originally carried on Sep. 17 in Ahmedabad mirror (part of times group). It got called out and ToI did not carry it in national feed. Deepal Trivedi (quoted below) is a known for hatred of Modi. Here is her response on twitter for evidence confirming that the whole thing was just hearsay.

deepal trivedi
‏@DeepalTrevedie
@India_MSM ofcourse we will produce evidence when asked.
but that does NOT mean exposing NE staffers and hotel exe who told us on twitter!

Here is the link for conversation

https://twitter.com/DeepalTrevedie/stat ... 6164324352

Here is the real story from nutology

Nakul Swamy ‏@Nutology Sep 17
@ShivAroor Boss the Mirror News abt NE ppl is fake. Have call recordings of staff I spoke to. Head Chef is NE resident. Lama Dawa

Unfortunately few political parties in NE have fell for this trick and protested. This has necessitated the investigation.

sivab · Post by **sivab** » 22 Sep 2014 21:08

X-post: SSridhar, see confirmation from horse mouth

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ahme ... 84387.html

Ahmedabad Police, hotel deny issuing diktat to NE staff during Xi Jinping's visit

Hours after the Union Home Ministry ordered a probe into reports that employees of an Ahmedabad hotel from the northeast were asked to stay away from duty during Chinese President Xi Jinping's recent visit, the city police and hotel management have denied issuing any such instruction.

"I am not aware of any such diktat given by police to the hotel authorities about their staff. We were just concerned about the Tibetans," said Joint Commissioner of Police (Crime) AK Sharma.

JCP of Special Branch Vikas Sahay too said he was not aware of any such order having been issued.

The Management of hotel Hyatt Ahmedabad expressed surprise over the reports and claimed all staffers, including those from the northeast, did duty on September 17 when Xi had a meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi there.

"There was no such order given to the hotel staff on that day. All staff, including those from the northeast, was present in the hotel and doing duty when Chinese President arrived. I am surprised as to how such baseless reports are doing the rounds," said Marketing Manager of Hyatt Ahmedabad Ayesha Mishra.

Earlier in the day, the Home Ministry had asked the Intelligence Bureau to ascertain the veracity of reports about the order and, if it was indeed issued, who did it and why.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 22 Sep 2014 21:11

^^^ Some minor Cong politician, a lady, spread this rumour on Twitter. I remember reading the exchange.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 22 Sep 2014 21:14

sivab wrote:Unfortunately few political parties in NE have fell for this trick and protested. This has necessitated the investigation.

Is that loud-mouth Katju sleeping? This is fit case for imposing a fine of Rs 5 Lakhs on ToI, India's official gutter paper, by the Press Council of India for mischievous reporting.

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 22 Sep 2014 21:15

self deleted - wrong thread

SanjayC · Post by **SanjayC** » 22 Sep 2014 21:17

self deleted

member_19686 · Post by **member_19686** » 23 Sep 2014 07:29

Video of Muslims assaulting the PETA activists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SppqbQw ... e=youtu.be

Seems like none of the followers of Muhammad were arrested & instead the PETA women were booked for spreading "communal disharmony" (the woman being targeted in Green looks like she herself is a Muslim) or some such nonsense

member_19686 · Post by **member_19686** » 23 Sep 2014 21:45

Surasena wrote:Video of Muslims assaulting the PETA activists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SppqbQw ... e=youtu.be

Seems like none of the followers of Muhammad were arrested & instead the PETA women were booked for spreading "communal disharmony" (the woman being targeted in Green looks like she herself is a Muslim) or some such nonsense

At 3:51 the woman in Burqa says "balatkar karo iska, balatkar karo" calling for the PETA woman to be raped.

At 6:19 "koi bhi Islam ke upar haath uthaayega, usko phaad denge", saying if anyone lifts a hand against Islam, we will break the hand.

Yet who seems to have got arrested by the BJP gov't?

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 23 Sep 2014 22:04

Surasena wrote:
Surasena wrote:Video of Muslims assaulting the PETA activists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SppqbQw ... e=youtu.be

Seems like none of the followers of Muhammad were arrested & instead the PETA women were booked for spreading "communal disharmony" (the woman being targeted in Green looks like she herself is a Muslim) or some such nonsense
At 3:51 the woman in Burqa says "balatkar karo iska, balatkar karo" calling for the PETA woman to be raped.

At 6:19 "koi bhi Islam ke upar haath uthaayega, usko phaad denge", saying if anyone lifts a hand against Islam, we will break the hand.

Yet who seems to have got arrested by the BJP gov't?

The woman in green is a woman wearing a `lettuce burkha'. Her name appears to be Benazir Suraiya (most probably Muslim, I would say, unless she is a Zoroastrian).

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 67038.aspx

As for the BJP, the order didn't come from the government. It was done by the Collector and the ADM. It is not that the BJP is dhimmi - they have their set of faults, but dhimminess is not the greatest. The greatest failure of the BJP, IMHO, seems to be the failure to move the establishment to the right. They are content to follow the Leftist rules, and procedures. Why can't the BJP, even in BJP ruled states, shift the establishment to the right? Rewrite the rules and administrative procedures?

member_19686 · Post by **member_19686** » 23 Sep 2014 23:29

^^

Agreed.

Look at this:

Xtian missionary Joshua Miller team doing "prayer walk" Madurai Meeenakshi temple:

http://youtu.be/LCcIZ-Gqus8

If anything happens to this fanatic then Hindus will get blamed.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 24 Sep 2014 01:49

The Joshu Miller video has @0:35 "if you are not religious and just visiting the temple" - huh, what? Such people should never be allowed to be inside the temple in the first place. Seems the people of western countries need to be educated not to make arbitrary remarks. The good fella dosen't forget to mention that "as a Christian, he remembers the old testament where Hibrews burnt and destroyed..." - such people have violence in their mind for sure. The least he could do is not to get mixed up and be violent-minded when visiting temples of others.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 24 Sep 2014 02:00

nageshks wrote:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 67038.aspx

As for the BJP, the order didn't come from the government. It was done by the Collector and the ADM. It is not that the BJP is dhimmi - they have their set of faults, but dhimminess is not the greatest. The greatest failure of the BJP, IMHO, seems to be the failure to move the establishment to the right. They are content to follow the Leftist rules, and procedures. Why can't the BJP, even in BJP ruled states, shift the establishment to the right? Rewrite the rules and administrative procedures?

Nagesh ji, SSC has been CM for close to 10 years and all it takes is 1 phone call to arrest the rioters and free the PETA activists. Recently love jihad culprits in gujarat were bashed up and the admin sided with hindus openly. I dont think the problem is with BJP, the problem is with skull cap SSC.

When Kalyan Singh was UP CM, he bent the full admin the way he wanted. In TN, the police officer who salutes DMK one day starts singing paeans to Jaya the day she becomes CM. I think the issue is that many BJP cm's themselves are just namesake hindus onlee and this list includes SSC.

In fact how many CMs or PMs has BJP ever had who have been unabashedly hindu, we can literally count on our fingertips (Namo, Kalyan Singh, Uma Bharti, Yeddy to some extent). Rest all are same coterie as Sushil Modi and nothing more.