The 2012 Olympics Thread

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 08 Aug 2012 01:49

Virupaksha wrote:
suryag wrote:I have always wondered on why IA cant pick up marathon runners from their ranks. I am pretty sure we have men from all areas across the country and with regiment level competitions we can pick up from the ranks and train them
and why should the army do it?

When did winning olympics become an army job.

well, they are the only organization with anything close to accountability, for example? people like irfan, i couldn't careless what his shooting skills are, but man, does he walk fast!! while young perhaps the IA can fund his speed walking training. later on, may be he can be trained into an awesome communications officer.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 08 Aug 2012 02:22

I had turned in to watch the 20km race for the fun factor and was surprised by Irfan...He had a bad start and if not for the warnings could have done much better at the end... Should be one of our medal hopes for AG, Rio etc.

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 08 Aug 2012 05:10

Apparently, Mery Kom and Devendro know each other and both hail from NE. Atleast, sports is keeping NE well connected with rest of India.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 08 Aug 2012 05:56

Both Manipuri. That state provides an outsize contribution to sports. Others from NE: Swuro, Bombalya, Thapa, Talukdar, Chanu and Rai. ~~Maybe others too.~~ Also Devvarman & Kothajit Singh.

Gaurav_S · Post by **Gaurav_S** » 08 Aug 2012 06:18

Victor wrote:Both Manipuri. That state provides an outsize contribution to sports. Others from NE: Swuro, Bombalya, Thapa, Talukdar, Chanu and Rai. Maybe others too.

I thought Taludkar is from Maharashtra due to his last name. But yes he is indeed from Assam.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 08 Aug 2012 07:50

Gaurav_S wrote:I thought Taludkar is from Maharashtra due to his last name. But yes he is indeed from Assam.

There are other similarities between Maharashtra and Assam--Chatrapati Shivaji and Lachit Barphukan.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 Aug 2012 08:26

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 08 Aug 2012 08:38

Gaurav_S wrote:Apparently, Mery Kom and Devendro know each other and both hail from NE. Atleast, sports is keeping NE well connected with rest of India.

Devendro's sister Sushila was a national boxing champion and once a mentor for Kom

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 08 Aug 2012 08:39

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/kris ... 12247.html

India will never win athletics medal with current set-up, says Krishna Poonia

Krishna Poonia, one of India's star performers at the 2012 Olympics with a seventh place finish in the women's discus throw event, is concerned about the future of athletics in the country.

India has never won a track and field medal at the Olympics and Poonia believes the wait isn't going to end anytime soon.

"What else do you expect? An Indian has finished seventh at the Olympics," the 2010 Commonwealth Games gold medallist told India Today in an exclusive interview. "Unless we have good competition in India, we will never produce an Olympic medallist."

Poonia also expressed frustration and anger for the pathetic situation of athletes and the utter disregard of officials to make things better.

"Where are the competitions?" she asked. "You don't even know when the National Games will be held. They just keep getting postponed. There is not even a single good grand prix event in India. Even to practice we have to go out to Europe and America and that's not always possible."

Considering all the hurdles along the way, Poonia said she was happy with her performance in London. "I have a worked so hard for the last two years and have hardly been home. I am happy with my show," she said.

Poonia also spoke at length about her once fierce rivalry with Australia's Dannie Samuels, who had challenged the Indian to a straight shootout after the 2010 Commonwealth Games.

The showdown never took place, of course, and Poonia said she had buried the hatchet with Samuels in London. "Danni finished way down the order here. So I went to her, hugged her and consoled her. She is a young girl and she is my friend now. Our animosity is a matter of past," she said.

Looking ahead, Poonia's fans are hoping that she can better her seventh place finish at the next Olympics in Rio de Janerio. However, the 35-year-old is not sure what the future holds for her.

"I can't travel abroad all the time as my kids are growing up. They need me too. I have to look at my priorities," Poonia said, perhaps indicating that we have seen the last of her.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Aug 2012 12:05

this is 1st olympics where we lost all hockey matches

onlee consolation is the pakis got hit by Aus 7-0

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Aug 2012 12:08

on UK sports infra - over the last 20 years they have spent money on facilities, coaches, sports science and created a culture of sports is fun and backed this up with an increasing tally of medals on the international stage. they have inspired many children to take up sports and compete. private schools also have pushed competitive sports a long way - and it helps that they have iconic historical sports figures for inspiration, e.g. roger bannister (who was at the olympics yesterday)

chris hoy interview last night (6 golds in cycling) - mentioned the massive team behind him and the 15 years of effort by the GB cycling set up to get them all to the top

in men's triathlon two brothers got gold and bronze (would have been silver except for a time penalty) - they said that parents had been keen on sports and they got into local competitions and decided that they could be good at this. their team also deployed a "domestique" - whose job it was to set the pace in cycling and take out the leaders and confuse them about who is going for the medal
bottom line i think is that uk sports success is a combination of money and a culture of sports can be fun (which wasn't there 20 years ago)

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 08 Aug 2012 12:13

shaardula wrote:
Virupaksha wrote:Suryag wrote: I have always wondered on why IA cant pick up marathon runners from their ranks. I am pretty sure we have men from all areas across the country and with regiment level competitions we can pick up from the ranks and train them

Virupaksha wrote:
and why should the army do it?

When did winning olympics become an army job.
well, they are the only organization with anything close to accountability, for example? people like irfan, i couldn't careless what his shooting skills are, but man, does he walk fast!! while young perhaps the IA can fund his speed walking training. later on, may be he can be trained into an awesome communications officer.

Shaardula, let us not dump all our problems on army. Let us not even go in to the long lasting effects it WILL cause.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Aug 2012 12:23

Seems like the usual dogs are dominating the Olympics medal tally , UK did exceedingly well this Olympics and Russian performance has been very poor.

Hope we could win one gold , some one does the trick for us.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 08 Aug 2012 12:50

According to this India Today article on Vijender's loss the defensive counterpunching approach does NOT seem like a good approach with the live scoring mechanism used in these Olympics. Vikas Krishan and Vijender were both defensive in their approach, and I believe Manoj and Sangwan were too. It seems the judges prioritize the first mover, not the counterpuncher even if the latter was better subjectively. At least both Devendro and Mery Kom are aggressive punchers, which will hopefully work in their favor in their next matches.

niran · Post by **niran** » 08 Aug 2012 13:02

there are any kinds of boxer, but the successful ones are the ones who are quick movers,quick in and out, Vijender Singh had been slow to move out of opponent attack since his first bout, this was duly noted by uzbeks so in dying seconds of 2nd and 3rd round he attacked and scored vital points.
Mary kom is among those exceptional boxer who punches while moving her head and body out of harms way, this need titanium nerves(to keep yer eyes open and thinking all the time) and few millions hours of practice
granted it will not knock out your opponent, but who wants a knock out, hain? onlee win is required for Gold,no?

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Aug 2012 14:08

i see that a number of african countries have entered in the single canoe events - this is a natural extrapolation of the backcountry boatman model i was mentioning before. canoe/kayak events seem to be dominated by the scandies and northamreekis right now

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 08 Aug 2012 14:38

If access to world class infra and facilities are major factors where are the second or third gen Indian kids or the guys who go on sports quota to the.first world?

apoorv · Post by **apoorv** » 08 Aug 2012 14:52

Iran always does well in wrestling. But this time they are doing exceedingly well.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 08 Aug 2012 15:43

When is Mary's semifinal bout?

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 08 Aug 2012 15:54

Dilbu wrote:When is Mary's semifinal bout?

6:15 PM IST.

Devendro's bout is at 1:15 AM IST tomorrow.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Aug 2012 16:07

saravana wrote:If access to world class infra and facilities are major factors where are the second or third gen Indian kids or the guys who go on sports quota to the.first world?

still queuing up to become doctors and lawyers, and not doing enough sports. its about culture as well

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Aug 2012 16:07

tintu luka qualifies into 800m next round

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 08 Aug 2012 16:45

Saar before Vikas Gowda there was Rajeev Balakrishan and quite a few tennis players.But the "success rate" is more or less the same as homegrown players.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 08 Aug 2012 16:54

Mary Kom tweets: Hope to make my country prou: @MaryKomIndia Ready for my match. Thanks all for your wishes. Hope to make my country proud. Jai Hind!

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 08 Aug 2012 17:22

Mary Kom playing 45 mins from now.

sum · Post by **sum** » 08 Aug 2012 17:29

^^ The only takeaway from this Oly from Indian PoV is that it is safe to assume that we are also-rans in Hockey and will remain so for the next 50 years atleast. Seeing these guys play showed the difference in levels between us and the rest of the world and it seems to be growing onlee.

I hope we dont qualify next Oly and spare the horror scenes like what we witnessed this time. Better to have 14 athletes from different disciplines to go instead of the 14 from hockey team since we might have better chances of doing well in those other disciplines.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Aug 2012 17:31

tintu's qualifying time is very close to the top 3, with a bit of luck... (wishful thinking!)

ritesh · Post by **ritesh** » 08 Aug 2012 17:58

Yesterday, Charu Sharma was interviewing our hockey coach, and the gist of the matter was that our infra, player's attitude and physique is downright $**t. Cannt expect miracles, when we have such a pathetic current status and apathy.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Aug 2012 18:02

ren cancan is through to final
mery on next

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 08 Aug 2012 18:05

Mery you can do it!!!

http://results-m.nbcolympics.com/boxing ... index.html

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 08 Aug 2012 18:14

Round 1 3-1 to Nicola

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 08 Aug 2012 18:15

Mery is down 4-8

Just one more round to go.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 08 Aug 2012 18:19

Bronze for Mery Kom. Well done lady!

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 08 Aug 2012 18:19

She lost 6-11.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Aug 2012 18:20

she fought well, but i think she was outfought in this bout
respect is due, you did us all proud

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 08 Aug 2012 18:21

They did not look the same weight category. Shame her category was not there in the Olympics. Well Played Mary Kom

Ardeshir · Post by **Ardeshir** » 08 Aug 2012 18:26

Well done Mery Kom!
Now let's wait for Devendro.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 08 Aug 2012 18:31

she is significantly smaller and has less reach than all her opponents and she is much older - so to get a medal is very creditable.
also, scoring in the women's bouts has been much more even handed, no?

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 08 Aug 2012 19:00

A universal conspiracy against Indian boxers is quite a stretch if I think of it. Much more likely is that we missed a technical circular about scoring changes for these games.

And what's this about athletes needing to go to Europe for training? There is something seriously amiss with our spending and planning priorities. The Sports Institute in Patiala under the Ministry of Youth and Sports has been churning out degrees and doctorates in sports coaching, sports medicine and sports massage for decades. What are these people doing?

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 08 Aug 2012 19:05

it's not a conspiracy against but an understanding for CAR nations and UQ. + incompetence.