India Border Watch: Security and Operations

[salaam]

Things are escalating. Two BSF bharat-rakshaks have been sniped in last 24 hours.

[pankajs]

Yes ... and that is sad but for all its denials it seems the Bakis were hit hard by BSF.

Also note how frequently RAW Sherif keeps reiterating "Muh tod jawab", etc after the cross-loc surgical strike. That by itself is a confirmation .... not that one was needed.

[Akshay Kapoor]

Things are escalating. Two BSF bharat-rakshaks have been sniped in last 24 hours.

Do you mean BSF seema rakshaks or literally BSF Bharat Rakshaks ie BRFITEs who are in BSF and stationed at the IB ? If it's the second let's be very discreet in what info is out here.

[Bheeshma]

The BSF has 105mm IFG right? Maybe the old Grads being replaced by Pinaka can also be provided to them. Just wipe out rangers where ever they are seen.

[Aditya G]

excellent round up of the status on LoC/IB:

J&K: Fragmenting Ceasefire
Ajit Kumar Singh
Research Fellow, Institute for Conflict Management

On October 23, 2016, the Pakistan Rangers violated the November 2003 cease-fire agreement (CFA), carrying out a sniper attack at an Indian post in the R. S. Pura sector of Jammu District in the Indian State of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K), injuring a Border Security Force (BSF) constable. The constable succumbed to his injuries later in the night.

At least seven Pakistan Rangers were reportedly killed in cross border firing by the BSF of India on October 21, 2016, in addition to one terrorist. According to reports, the Pakistan Rangers violating the CFA, carried out a sniper attack at an Indian post in the Hira Nagar area of Kathua District, injuring a BSF constable. A BSF released stated, "In a befitting reply to a sniper attack of Pak Rangers at 9:35 this morning in Hira Nagar Sector of Jammu, BSF launched an offensive. During intermittent firing of small arms and area weapons one terrorist and seven Rangers were shot dead." The Rangers had violated the CFA to help terrorists infiltrate from the Pakistani side into India, as has been the established practice over years. BSF spokesman Shubhendu Bhardwaj thus disclosed, "There was an infiltration attempt and sniper fire. We retaliated. The bodies are on the other side of the border.” The injured BSF trooper died later, on October 22.

In the intervening night of October 19 and 20, 2016, Indian troopers foiled an infiltration attempt by terrorists in the Hira Nagar area of Kathua District. While one terrorist was killed the rest managed to escape back to Pakistan. Pakistan Rangers provided cover fire to the failed infiltrators.

On October 16, 2016, a soldier of the Indian Army was reportedly shot dead by a sniper from Pakistan. The incident occurred at a forward Indian post along the Line of Control (LoC) in the Naushera Sector of the Rajouri District. The Indian Army responded, though there was no report of any casualties on the other side.

The Indian Army had carried out a ‘surgical strike’ inside Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) in the early hours of September 29, 2016, inflicting heavy casualties and damage to terror launch pads in the region. Unconfirmed reports suggest that at least 38 terrorists and their handlers, as well as two Pakistani soldiers were killed in the strike. No Indian casualty was reported. The ‘surgical strike’ was itself the Indian response to the attack on an Army camp at Uri in the Baramulla District of J&K on September 18, 2016, by Pakistan-based terrorists, which had resulted in the death of 19 Indian soldiers.

Since the ‘surgical strike’ of September 29, Pakistan has violated the CFA on at least 38 occasions, both along the LoC and at the International Border (IB), resulting in three deaths (all troops).

According to media reports, the continuous shelling along the border has resulted in a large migration of civilians from the affected areas to safer locations. Most recently, bullet proof vehicles were pressed into service overnight on October 21-22, to evacuate over 400 people because of Pakistani mortar bombing and firing in the border hamlets of Hiranagar in Kathua District.

The formal CFA, between India and Pakistan along the IB, LoC and the Actual Ground Position Line (AGPL) in J&K, began on the midnight of November 25, 2003. The Directors-General of Military Operations (DGMO) of India and Pakistan, in their weekly telephonic conversation, had agreed to the CFA. A joint statement of the Army Headquarters of both the countries declared,
Pursuant to the understanding between the Governments of India and Pakistan, the two DGMOs discussed the modalities of implementation of the proposal. It was mutually agreed that the ceasefire will be enforced between the two sides, along all the sectors of the IB, LoC and AGPL....

Pakistan was never willing to sign the CFA. But under immense pressure from several quarters, it did sign at a time when terrorism-related fatalities in J&K had started to decline. [The fatalities had started to decline since 2002. ]The Agreement held reasonably - though with rising exceptions over time - as long as President Musharraf remained in power in Pakistan, but disintegrated fairly quickly thereafter, as Pakistan sought to infiltrate increasing numbers of terrorists into J&K to shore up a terrorist movement that was rapidly losing steam. Fire cover provided by Pakistan Army and paramilitary units located across the border is essential to create opportunities for successful infiltration.

The first CFA violation on record took place on January 19, 2005, when mortars were fired from the Pakistani side across the LoC, targeting an Indian post in the Poonch sector, resulting in injuries to a girl. Officials then had claimed that the shelling may have been intended to provide cover to a group of infiltrators trying to sneak into the Indian side in the same District, of whom five had been killed a day earlier. The first fatality in Pakistani firing after the CFA, however, took place on November 25, 2007, when a soldier was killed, and another two were injured in two separate firing incidents from the Pakistani side along the LoC in the Poonch Sector.

According to partial data compiled by the Institute for Conflict Management (ICM) Pakistan has violated the CFA on at least 1,741 occasions since 2005. In 2005, Pakistan violated the CFA once, followed by three such violation in 2006, 21 in 2007, 77 in 2008, 28 in 2009, 44 in 2010, 62 in 2011, 114 in 2012, 347 in 2013, 583 in 2014, 405 in 2015 and at least 56 in 2016 so far (data till October 23, 2016). According to Government figures, there were 16 CFA violations by Pakistan between January and June 2016.

Despite the rising trends in incidents of CFA violation between 2005 and 2008, Pakistan failed to reverse the trend of declining fatalities in J&K. Perturbed, Pakistan upped the ante and such violations reached alarming levels in 2013, with a further escalation in 2014. Terrorism related fatalities in J&K, however, continued to decline, to bottom out at 117 in 2012, but have seen some augmentation since, with 181 killed in 2013, 193 in 2014, a dip to 174 in 2015, and a spike, again, to 218 in 2016 (till October 16). Pakistan has also continued to escalate tensions at the border through 2015 (till September).

According to Indian Government data, between 2012 and September 30, 2015, Pakistan has succeeded in infiltrating at least 300 terrorists into J&K. It is not surprising, consequently, that violence has surged during this period.

Since 2005, at least 4,178 infiltration attempts have been foiled by the Army at or close to the IB/LoC. In 2005, the Army foiled 597 attempts, followed by 573 such attempts in 2006, 535 in 2007, 342 in 2008, 485 in 2009, 489 in 2010, 247 in 2011, 264 in 2012, 277 in 2013, 222 in 2014, 121 in 2015 and at least 26 in 2016.

Alarmed by the rising volatility at the border, in a major development in September 2015, India’s BSF and the Pakistan Rangers agreed to honor the November 2003 CFA to restore peace along the borders. At the end of four days of talks in New Delhi on September 12, 2015, the BSF and Rangers signed a 20-point ‘Joint Record of Discussion’ charting the future roadmap for cooperation between the two border Forces. Incidents of CFA violation registered a sharp decline after this. Overall fatalities in 2015 also declined marginally.

While the data for 2016 tends to buck the trend of a significant correlation between CFA violations and fatalities in J&K, it is useful to note that there has been a sharp decline in civilian fatalities, perhaps the most significant index of the consolidation of peace in the State. 2016 has seen just 10 civilian fatalities, the lowest number by far since the commencement of terrorism in J&K in 1988, and half the number killed in 2015. Meanwhile, terrorist fatalities have risen to 137 till October 16, 2016, from a total of 113 in 2015, and account for almost 63 per cent of fatalities recorded this year. There has also been a spike in SF fatalities, at 71 this year, thus far, as against 41 in 2015, indicating a far greater fury in armed engagements, overwhelmingly along the LoC and IB, as against soft-target terrorism deeper within the State.

The BSF and Pakistan Rangers met again in Lahore (Pakistan) from July 25-28, 2016, and reiterated their commitment to the CFA. However, though CFA violations declined after the September 2015 meeting, Pakistan backed terrorism in J&K has registered a significant increase. Some incidents have also spilled over into neighbouring Punjab. A major attack took place at Indian Air Force Base at Pathankot in Punjab in January 2016, resulting in the death of seven soldiers. Earlier, in July 2015, Pakistan-backed terrorists had attacked the Dinanagar Police Station in Gurdaspur in Punjab, killing seven before the three attackers were also killed.

In the deadliest attack on the Indian Army in J&K in terms of fatalities among personnel, at least 19 soldiers were killed by Pakistan-based terrorists in Uri on September 18, 2016. The ‘surgical strike’ was India’s response to this grave provocation.

Islamabad appears to have seized upon the ‘surgical strikes’ to legitimize a collapse of the CFA, which has long been thought by the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) as working to the advantage of New Delhi. Though Pakistan continues to deny (albeit somewhat inconsistently) the ‘surgical strikes’ in PoK, it is evident that its Army is chafing under the humiliation that has been inflicted on it. A continuous escalation, and the possibility of a major ‘retaliatory’ strike, therefore, remains likely in the foreseeable future.

[salaam]

Things are escalating. Two BSF bharat-rakshaks have been sniped in last 24 hours.

Do you mean BSF seema rakshaks or literally BSF Bharat Rakshaks ie BRFITEs who are in BSF and stationed at the IB ? If it's the second let's be very discreet in what info is out here.

No sir. Even the humble DRDO guys who do read here will never say that they do. BSF personnel are actually in uniform.

Pardon the confusion. I was paying respect to the BSF martyrs. They gave the supreme sacrifice.

[pankajs]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... ugD8N.html
2-3 Pakistani soldiers killed in retaliatory firing by Indian troops: Army
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Heavy exchange of fire, involving use of 82 mm and 120 mm mortar shells besides small arms, was still on in the evening after it started at around 10am.

[manjgu]

had a very good diwali meeting with a def min senior babu... told me surgrical strike score is approx 100+....

[Aditya G]

http://www.firstpost.com/india/pakistan ... 69766.html

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"They (Pakistani forces) deliberately create such flash points with an aim of engineering infiltration," he told reporters while commenting on the intensified cross- border shelling and firing by Pakistani troops.

"You can say that they (Pakistani troops) always try to create a flash point so that they get an excuse to go for action," Sharma added after laying wreath on mortal remains of BSF Head Constable Sushil Kumar who was killed in Pakistani shelling in R S Pura sector on Monday morning.

The BSF Director General said while Pakistan may start the confrontation, "we are committed to give befitting reply and foiling their designs of infiltration.... We have to react so that we do not allow them to get successful in their designs to engineer infiltration from across the border."

He said the morale of the troops is "very high and we are ready to meet any eventuality".
Asserting that BSF never initiates ceasefire violation, he said the Indian border guarding force only gives a "befitting reply" to the provocations by the Pakistani forces.

"I want to clarify that we have never initiated (any ceasefire violation). It is Pakistan which is doing it. As you know in case of (BSF constable) Gurnam Singh, they killed him in a sniper fire first. In reply to that we gave them befitting reply," Sharma said, referring to last week's incident in which BSF claimed to have killed 7 Pakistani Rangers and a terrorist in retaliatory fire.
"The way they are bombarding our areas, they are targeting civilians but as a policy, BSF does not target civilians at all," Sharma said.

"We only target the place from where the fire is coming. We only target military and Pakistani Rangers establishments. We never intentionally target civilian areas," he added.

About today's incident, he said, "They initiated heavy shelling in R S Pura, we retaliated to that."

He added, ".. the area weapons do not have great amount of accuracy. As a result, civilians are also harmed, property is also damaged. That is the collateral damage."

In reply to another question about his message and directive to the field commanders, Sharma said "I have asked my commanders not to initiate anything. But at the same time give them befitting and strong reply".

Sending out a message, the BSF DG said, "I would like to convey to Pakistan that as in the past, they will have to retreat. I will only tell them that they should desist from unholy designs and they should not do anything that will harm us as in the past."

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"As you know for past few days there have been firing exchanges on the two sides and Pakistan has been initiating firing and shelling," he said.

The DG said, "I was told that there is a huge loss of life and property on the other side. My officers told me that opposite to our Chenab post, there lies Tariq post of Pakistan where ambulances were seen. There is also loss and damage to the Pak Rangers as well".

When pointed out that there are generally ceasefire violations by Pakistan during this time, he said, "I agree with you that in 2014 and 2015 during this period only there have been hostilities from the Pakistan side."As you know we have always given them a befitting reply and I assure you that we will give them a befitting reply this time as well."

Replying to another question about the security situation along the border line, he said "I think they are still smarting over the surgical actions taken by Army".

[Kashi]

Baki twitter is buzzing with reports of heavy bombing in Sialkot sector

Mubasher Lucman ‏@mubasherlucman
Heavy firing now by Indian forces at Sialkot border. Mortars and all. Intensified in last 30 minutes or so

Someone posted a video...

Asif Maher@Asif_Maher
@mubasherlucman Sir, share this as this is what happening in #Chaprar sector, Sialkot since yesterday. #ModiNawazNexus #QuettaTerrorAttack

https://twitter.com/Asif_Maher/status/7 ... wsrc%5Etfw

[sum]

^^ Seems this is really the thappad season from all directions for the TSP-ians.

They gave the ungli to the wrong guy in Desh this time and no way will they get away lightly with this

[Guddu]

I just wish GOI would stop using the phrase "befitting reply", prior usage has left severe psychological scars....OTOH, did anyone notice dossier diplomacy has gone out of the window, dont read much about it anymore.

[Kashi]

^^ Think of it as redeeming the good name of "befitting reply". Slowly but surely, it is beginning to mean exactly what it is supposed to be.

[Bart S]

I just wish GOI would stop using the phrase "befitting reply", prior usage has left severe psychological scars....OTOH, did anyone notice dossier diplomacy has gone out of the window, dont read much about it anymore.

The problem was never the statement. The problem was that it was all talk with no follow through action. That is changing now.

[Aditya G]

Found this piece by Shiv Aroor from exactly 2 years back. Oct-2014.

Worth a look back. Shows Pakis never learn their lessons - to me it seems due to their inability to acknowledge the truth, study it and disseminate lessons from it. India has thus taken a graduated escalatory path .... it helps that we have a top class team of ministers in all the key security related ministries.

Let's cut through the bullshit. If that's even possible at a time like this.

The only thing that's more confounding than the fog of war is the fog of near war. As 81 millimeter mortar shells whizz and bang across the international border in both directions; as television brings us images of petrified civilians bolting in the dark as the skies over the "chicken's neck" sector of Akhnoor are lit up by the arcs of incoming fire; as the ever eloquent conversation on social media is propelled by such subtlety as #BuzdilPakistan and #CowardModi – this is as old as the conflict itself.

The tantalising fog of fighting presents the delectable opportunity to obfuscate, muddy, divert. To transform what's grey into black and white.

To make what's not entirely clear, absolute. Who fired first? Who escalated a par-for-the-course exchange of festival fire? Has Pakistan learnt a lesson?

All questions that present a sumptuous opportunity for spiralling debate, conspiracy theories and a handful of sentiments masquerading as patriotic nationalism. But to even presume, to be able to cut through the bullshit, would need a clinical assessment of India's retaliation, unsullied by the swaying forces of sentimentalism and politics.

You've heard numbers all week on the news. Eight dead. 30 injured. 60 border posts targeted. 81 millimeter. 16,000 evacuated. 15 temporary camps.

Here are four reasons why the current exchange on the border is unprecedented in the steadily tenuous 11-year history of the India-Pak ceasefire.

1) As the lead story in today's Mail Today reports, the Pakistan establishment, fattened for years on the impression that an Indian retaliation will be token and result in no real damage, was shaken by the swiftness and intensity of the response. Nobody will confirm this for you officially, but every Pakistani shell that landed in Jammu triggered ten Indian shells smashing into Pakistan. Fire included the use of rocket-propelled grenades.

2) The Indian forces operating on the international border and along the LoC, to the south of Pir Panjal, specifically targeted permanent fortifications, bunkers and defences built by the Pakistan Army and other agencies primarily as border outposts, but also to facilitate infiltration of terrorists. Again, you'll never have an official confirmation but the political leadership has been briefed by the Army about severe damage to the bunkers in several locations.

3) Beyond the public statements - or lack thereof - from the political establishment, there was no political diffidence within the security command structure. The message to the forces on the ground was clear. There was no hesitation. In public, the message was that Pakistan could forget about talks until its guns fell silent. On the phone and in operations rooms, it was less ambiguous: do what's necessary to make those guns fall silent; the message has to be unmistakable. As anyone will tell you, a commander on the ground values clarity from the civilian leadership as much, if not more than the trust of his forces. The BSF and Army had a sharp brief: graduate your responses, but shake the Pakistanis off their gun positions.

4) There was clarity in the government's own public voice too. It was simple: everybody wants peace. India wants peace and isn't an aggressor, but let there be no mistaking that for weakness. It is precisely the opposite -- a distinct lack of clarity, of political purpose, of Delhi's approach in the past that has emboldened the impunity with which Pakistan provoked in 2013. Pakistan has in the past, been allowed to exploit the confounding and dangerous interference of Delhi's political impulse for peace with the more immediate need for the resolution of a tactical situation on the border. This time there was no interference. The message was clear: Prime Minister Narendra Modi today backhanded the clamour for him to speak about the border tension by saying our guns were doing the talking. Defence minister Arun Jaitley's statement was less of a cowboy quip, but said it clearer: "Pakistan, in these attacks, has clearly been the aggressor. But it must realise that our deterrence will be credible. If Pakistan persists with this adventurism our forces will make the cost of this adventurism unaffordable."

What's happening, and hopefully winding down now, at the border has everything to do with matters as specific as the free hand -- or lack thereof -- our security forces have when dealing tactically with Pakistan, to the larger question of whether this could be the beginning of a turning point in Pakistan's own predilection for provocation, the reasons for which go beyond the scope of this column and have everything to do with Pakistan's political own situation, the upcoming elections in Jammu & Kashmir and a combination of other apparent factors.

But there's no black and white. Ever.

[jamwal]

Heavy shelling by Pakis in R.S.Pura sector. Apparently some civilian casualties

[Akshay Kapoor]

Get the 105 mms IFGs in and if that doesn't work lets get the 130 mm and 155 mm guns. Rule of thumb should be 5 times the response in terms of volume of fire and targets of fire and two higher calibres in terms of calibre. Lets destroy every single Pak installation within a 25 km dept on a 100 km line with RS Pura at its centre. That is the only solution.

[Aditya G]

Get the 105 mms IFGs in and if that doesn't work lets get the 130 mm and 155 mm guns. Rule of thumb should be 5 times the response in terms of volume of fire and targets of fire and two higher calibres in terms of calibre. Lets destroy every single Pak installation within a 25 km dept on a 100 km line with RS Pura at its centre. That is the only solution.

Akshayji, my last post shows that pakis never learn their lessons. They will die today but it seems they have no institutional memory at all.

The ceasefire agreement was sought by Pakistan due to our heavy arty action as mentioned by general bakshi in one of his talks. That was not barely 10 years back and they have forgotten as an institution. Operations ginger, Surgical strike happened and they still don't learn.

I am not saying we should not retaliate. I am wondering what type of retaliation should we employ.

[Akshay Kapoor]

Aditya ji, we have never given then a big enough jhapad in public. Always gave them a way out from 48 to Kargil and now. Our job and karma is to hit them hard and ultimately destroy them ( separate Balochistan for example), not to worry about their education.

[Akshay Kapoor]

If I were RM I would order 50% of heavy guns brought up from Strike Corps and position them on LC and Border and pound them as I suggested - 5 times the volume of fire and 5 times the number of targets and 2 higher calibres. Also I would reverse DG BSF orders 'dont initaite but retailite'. This is our fundamnetal mistake...they are used to initiating...we have to start initiating. The whole complexion of the game chnages when you have initiative and surprise. Its also economically much more viable - causes big damage and degrades their ability to respond.

Initiative !!!

[Kashi]

BSF strikes back at Pakistan, smashes 27 posts and 18 watchtowers

New Delhi: In one of the biggest retaliatory actions along the India-Pakistan border by security forces, the BSF has informed the Union home ministry that it has destroyed 27 posts and 18 watchtowers of the Pakistani Rangers in the last few days. The BSF has also stated that it has killed as many as seven Pak Rangers and injured several of them, including a senior officer of the rank of Lt. Colonel.

Amid unprecedented ceasefire violations and heavy firing by Pakistani Rangers along the border in the northern sector, one of the first things that home minister Rajnath Singh did on return from his three-day Bahrain visit on Wednesday was to have a detailed security review meeting with senior officials on the prevailing situation along the border. These details were shared by the BSF during the high-level meeting with the home minister.

Pakistan firing to push in terrorists: BSF
Sources said that even while in Bahrain, home minister Rajnath Singh was closely monitoring the security scenario along the border and was in constant touch with the BSF chief K.K. Sharma.

The BSF also informed the home minister that heavy firing by the Pak Rangers was largely due to two main factors. Firstly, the Pakistani security forces are trying hard to push in large number of militants waiting close to the border before winter sets in and are primarily providing cover fire for this. Secondly, the Pak Rangers are retaliating to India’s surgical strikes and even the killing of seven of its personnel last week by BSF.

Sources said the home minister was given a detailed presentation on deployment of troops along the border and how Indian security forces too were retaliating hard to the firing from across the border.

[Akshay Kapoor]

this is the old 'retaliation'. I look forward to the new and bigger round.

[Aditya G]

^inshallah.

BSF giving 'mouth breaking reply'....

BSF strikes back at Pakistan, smashes 27 posts and 18 watchtowers

New Delhi: In one of the biggest retaliatory actions along the India-Pakistan border by security forces, the BSF has informed the Union home ministry that it has destroyed 27 posts and 18 watchtowers of the Pakistani Rangers in the last few days. The BSF has also stated that it has killed as many as seven Pak Rangers and injured several of them, including a senior officer of the rank of Lt. Colonel.

Amid unprecedented ceasefire violations and heavy firing by Pakistani Rangers along the border in the northern sector, one of the first things that home minister Rajnath Singh did on return from his three-day Bahrain visit on Wednesday was to have a detailed security review meeting with senior officials on the prevailing situation along the border. These details were shared by the BSF during the high-level meeting with the home minister.

Pakistan firing to push in terrorists: BSF
Sources said that even while in Bahrain, home minister Rajnath Singh was closely monitoring the security scenario along the border and was in constant touch with the BSF chief K.K. Sharma.

The BSF also informed the home minister that heavy firing by the Pak Rangers was largely due to two main factors. Firstly, the Pakistani security forces are trying hard to push in large number of militants waiting close to the border before winter sets in and are primarily providing cover fire for this. Secondly, the Pak Rangers are retaliating to India’s surgical strikes and even the killing of seven of its personnel last week by BSF.

Sources said the home minister was given a detailed presentation on deployment of troops along the border and how Indian security forces too were retaliating hard to the firing from across the border.

[Aditya G]

Pak army sits back and let's pak rangers do the fighting. Might be they are still smarting from the surgery.

BSF is perhaps the only CAPF engaged in Army like Ops. Kudos to them.

I really don't know much about Pak rangers. What equipment, training etc?

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/BSF-jaw ... 088114.cms

JAMMU: A BSF jawan was on Thursday killed while six civilians were injured when Pakistani troops violated the ceasefire, shelling over 15 Bops and 29 hamlets with mortar bombs and firing from automatic weapons in R S Pura and Arnia sectors along the International Border in Jammu district.
"The jawan, a head constable, received splinter injuries in the ceasefire violation and succumbed to his injuries," a senior BSF official said.
The jawan identified as Jitendra Kumar was a native of Motihari district in Bihar.
Pakistani troops pounded over 20 civilian hamlets along IB in Arnia and R S Pura in Jammu district overnight besides targeting over 15 Bops, drawing retaliation form BSF troops.
"There was heavy firing and mortar shelling on BoPs and villages along IB in R S Pura and Arnia sectors of Jammu district overnight and continued till this morning", a police officer said.
In the shelling, six civilians were injured in Khopra Basti belt in R S Pura this morning, he said, adding the injured have been evacuated to a hospital for treatment.
Pakistani posts started firing heavy mortars towards the Indian side at 2035 hours, a BSF officer said.
"Heavy mortar shells were fired towards Arnia last night", Deputy Commissioner, Jammu, Simrandeep Singh said.
On Wednesday, an officer of the Border Security Force was injured when a shell fired by Pakistani Rangers exploded near him during in RS Pura sector along the International Border in Jammu.
As many as 16 people mostly women have been injured in the cross border firing in the RS Pura sector in the past two days.
Assistant Sub Inspector of BSF A K Upadhayay was injured when a shell exploded near him in RS Pura sector.He received splinter injures in his hand yesterday.
Eight civilians were injured in shelling in R S Pura and Arnia on October 25.

[Kashi]

^ Sad that we lost another brave BSF jawaan today..shat shat naman

I hope that we paying them back disproportionately.

[ramana]

Something is happening. Please monitor twitter channels and post here.

[vijayk]

Sir Arnab ‏@iSirArnab 19m19 minutes ago
BREAKING: Border #Sundarbani is ATTACKED by Coward PAK Army and hence INDIAN ARMY been asked to GO ALL OUT... It's HIGH TIME to take POK in

[vijayk]

Proud of her service to Pakistan I guess

[vijayk]

Alok Bhatt ‏@alok_bhatt 53s54 seconds ago
Pak Sp Forces spotted near fencing on IB- Fencing is 2 kms inside IB - so they r inside Indian territory-none of them shud go back alive!

[Karthik S]

Is it a retaliation for our surgical strike ?

[jamwal]

Looks like Pakis are actively trying to kill civilians. Civilian infrastructure, houses and people seem to be the primary targets. Lots of locals got injured, but no specific number. Mortars are being fired from Paki side at houses in India.










http://imgur.com/a/aDLxF

[vijayk]

Hope this is true


#GauravPradhan
‏@DrGPradhan
To do justice is GOD's responsibility

To organize meeting with GOD is @adgpi duty

12 PAK rangers dispatched to meet HOORS

[salaam]

Twitter link
LIVE updates: Pakistan army launches multiple attacks along LoC and international border, India retaliates
indiatoday.intoday.in/story/pakistan…

[ramana]

jamwal, Those are mortar shells: one unexploded maybe defective fuze or chini maal, the other broke into pieces. Tail section came apart.

[Rudradev]

No big mystery why civilian dwellings are being targeted. These are predominantly Hindu (maybe some Sikh) areas of Jammu. They want to cleanse these areas of non-Muslims as effectively as the valley itself was cleansed by their proxies in early 1990s. It is a demographic war for Islam to claim these lands by sheer weight of numbers.**

Other areas of eastern Jammu (Doda and Udhampur, IIRC... Jamwal ji can correct me) have been slowly skewed towards Muslim-dominance, if not outright Muslim-majority, through years of terrorist atrocities and slow bleeding away of the non-Muslim population via a thousand cuts. The Hindus and Sikhs in these border areas were more tenacious and stayed put. Because GOI has begun to respond more robustly to infiltration, Pakis are now trying to remove these Indian citizens from their homes by force with artillery shelling.

**In fact, that's why the MSM is actually very quiet about the Pakistani ops. Ordinarily they would be shouting from the rooftops about Surgical Strike Failed, Blow To Modi etc. much loudER than they are now (they still are, but it is relatively muted). They don't want the story to become so big that Indians, especially Hindus, manage to digest what the intentions are behind Pakistani shelling.

[Bheeshma]

India needs to make sure 5 km inside pakistani territory is sanitized of all pakis, whether civilian or uniformed or jihadi.

[ramana]

LOC firing would mean Indian Army will retaliate.

Lets see.

[Bheeshma]

I am hoping 155mm Dhanush, Pinaka-I mk2 and Garuda are tested to validate them. What better target than the porkis.

[Prem]

So 18th Poak arrive at the BaitUlWhore.

[Guddu]

So the reports say that we destroyed 27 posts and 18 watch towers.. veery pleased about that. My question is whats the difference between the paki and Indian mortar fire. Is it that we are somehow more accurate, better equipped ?, better protected ? why would pakis not be able to do the same to us ? Just curious...