Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 13 Sep 2013 13:19

First let NaMo win...even that has huge obstacles ahead...the INC octopus is not going to disappear overnight

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 13 Sep 2013 13:27

SSC on many occasions clarified ,that he is with Modi...media piss ops onlee...

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Sep 2013 13:31

Let us wait and see if the PM candidature thing goes through or not.... aaj shaam tak sab clear ho jayega.

NM should *not* give up any of his current positions - Guj CMship, chair of the poll campaign committee, seat on the parl board or PM candidature. period. Those asking for the moon can go take a hike, to the moon.

Way back in 2001, when NM was pulled out of complete onbscurity by RSS and tasked with reviving the BJP org in Guj, he bargained hard with Nagpur. He told them if you want me to do things, give me the authority to do so. Nagpur agreed and what follows is history. There was a time when NM alone held upto 8 portfolios. The home, finance, power, agri ministries were under him. The man slogged 18 hrs a day, every day. The man was and is incorruptible. Corruption in all these ministries was rooted out at its core. For that crucial period, Modi was the govt in Guj. Later, he relaxed his grip and delegated much more as he began to figur out who to trust and who not to among his ministerial colleagues. Keshubhai wan't among the trustworthy people, apparently.

Anyway, all those stories are in the archives. There was this massive aakar patel towel detailing how NM ran a fascist-authoritarian ship in Guj etc etc. Bekaar's wails made great reading. NM showed his way works in Guj. Dunno how he will do on the national stage. Time will tell of course.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 13 Sep 2013 13:35

PM candidate is not a post. So he can be both PM candidate and Gujarat CM. BJP election campaign committee chief can be someone the PM candidate trusts and has veto over.

Absolutely on the dot!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Sep 2013 13:39

we will need a bania mercentile govt for 20 years to undo the shattering damage the INC has inflicted in its 2 terms.
china and TSP together could not have inflicted the damage inc has done.

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 13 Sep 2013 13:46

NM should never leave the post of CM. As a constitutionally elected authority, his personal security is state's responsibility.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 13 Sep 2013 13:47

13:47 Live! BJP president calls Uddhav: Narendra Modi is PM candidate : BJP President Rajnath Singh calls Shiv Sena chief Uddhav Thackeray to inform him that Narendra Modi is the party's prime ministerial candidate. Thackeray had called Modi last night to congratulate him. The Shiv Sena is the BJP's key ally. -- CNN IBN

14:00 Advani: Would not like to work for party if decision is taken on Modi: LK Advani is believed to have told the BJP that he would not like to work for the party if the decision is being taken on Modi for PM (party mein kaam karne ki zyada dilchaspi nahin rahegi.)

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 13 Sep 2013 13:57

krishnan wrote:
13:47 Live! BJP president calls Uddhav: Narendra Modi is PM candidate : BJP President Rajnath Singh calls Shiv Sena chief Uddhav Thackeray to inform him that Narendra Modi is the party's prime ministerial candidate. Thackeray had called Modi last night to congratulate him. The Shiv Sena is the BJP's key ally. -- CNN IBN

14:00 Advani: Would not like to work for party if decision is taken on Modi: LK Advani is believed to have told the BJP that he would not like to work for the party if the decision is being taken on Modi for PM (party mein kaam karne ki zyada dilchaspi nahin rahegi.)

LKA deciding on not working for the party would be the icing on the cake.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 13 Sep 2013 14:01

Congress is a Sycophancy, not a Democracy.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 13 Sep 2013 14:01

even BJP team seems to have washed their hands off him, there is a limit to everything

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Sep 2013 14:08

Modi in Tamil Nadu

The Tamil Nadu BJP unit invites you to attend the 26-sept Trichy rally. Narendra Modi will address cadres. Those from Tamil Nadu are asked to register.

link

I for one wouldn't be counting how nay people who show up are from the north and how many from the south of TN.... we'll leave such hair-spitting and hair-splitting for the regular dhaga trolls...

Ensoi.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 13 Sep 2013 14:10

And the final soosai. But is it mass soosai or individual soosai?

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 13 Sep 2013 14:10

NM will not leave CMship for ANYTHING. Not even for PM candidateship. Only thing that can part him from Guj is actual post of PM.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Sep 2013 14:17

Atri wrote:And the final soosai. But is it mass soosai or individual soosai?

At this rate LKA will be renamed soo-sai-baba only... well, perhaps its time our sanku saab downhill skiied a tad and let us know why LKA has gone up against the sangh and continues to hold out even in a lost cause.... of course, one can always maintain high moral ground and uphill ski some more....

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 13 Sep 2013 14:20

kapilrdave wrote:NM will not leave CMship for ANYTHING. Not even for PM candidateship. Only thing that can part him from Guj is actual post of PM.

Indeed. He recently said that he has the mandate of Gujarat's people to serve them till 2017 and that he intends to do so. I now think that Modi foresaw this Disadv-ani trick and made that statement.
They shouldn't have gone back to LKA again and again and let him loose like a spoilt child creating a scene.
LKA's point is that NaMo must mingle with Lutyens Delhi elite and campaign from Delhi, to get accepted on the throne.
I say screw these conditions and do what you want. This time the country will be governed from the Rashtravaadi throne of Gujarat instead of the Mughal throne of Delhi.
Let the Delhi crooks sulk if they want. Desh comes first, wherever the direction comes from.

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 13 Sep 2013 14:23

Hari Seldon wrote:
Modi in Tamil Nadu

The Tamil Nadu BJP unit invites you to attend the 26-sept Trichy rally. Narendra Modi will address cadres. Those from Tamil Nadu are asked to register.
link

I for one wouldn't be counting how nay people who show up are from the north and how many from the south of TN.... we'll leave such hair-spitting and hair-splitting for the regular dhaga trolls... Ensoi.

Just spoke to a district secretary of BJP. NM is coming to TN on 24th September. He will come to Trichi instead of CBE because CBE ground is only 50K people.

State BJP is expecting 3 lac people in Trichi.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 1#p1499521

Wow, my source was reliable. Need to frequent that chai wala more often.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 13 Sep 2013 14:30

Hari Seldon wrote:
Atri wrote:And the final soosai. But is it mass soosai or individual soosai?
At this rate LKA will be renamed soo-sai-baba only... well, perhaps its time our sanku saab downhill skiied a tad and let us know why LKA has gone up against the sangh and continues to hold out even in a lost cause.... of course, one can always maintain high moral ground and uphill ski some more....

I dont know Hari-ji; I am expecting (hoping?) that LKA ji would give me some chance to uphill ski. Or so I hope. It is important for BJP to have a unified presence.

Anything which takes away from that is not done : LKA throwing tantrums is not counted, I mean actual ground level powerful folks like SSC, Delhi state unit leaders etc throwing a tantrum with LKA as excuse is what I am talking of.

If he has to soo-sai, let him to it alone, in the true Gazi style. The BJP party, cadre and machinery must not be impacted. As long the first is true, we can all do out little CTs, if the second is true, I dont see what option exists but for RSS to repeat the medicine given post Djinnah.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 13 Sep 2013 14:49

Marten wrote:
Sri wrote:One NDTV anchor Kashish Gupta lost it on her twitter today and abused NM. Becoming hot on twitter. Sonia Singh another anchor has distanced NDTV from her tweets.
Not an anchor. Most likely, a lowly paid intern who's supposed to do background research for her "superiors". Given that their content is always biased to one direction, it would not be a surprise if she got worked upon by some "seniors" (I mean ideologically only). Best to drop her as a discussion point on BRF and let her stew on Twitter.

Folks these are the times, that sharing tweets on BRF is a GOOD IDEA. As opposed to context free uncertain views of "others"

Please help guys.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 13 Sep 2013 15:02

Sanku wrote:I dont know Hari-ji; I am expecting (hoping?) that LKA ji would give me some chance to uphill ski. Or so I hope. It is important for BJP to have a unified presence.

Anything which takes away from that is not done : LKA throwing tantrums is not counted, I mean actual ground level powerful folks like SSC, Delhi state unit leaders etc throwing a tantrum with LKA as excuse is what I am talking of.

If he has to soo-sai, let him to it alone, in the true Gazi style. The BJP party, cadre and machinery must not be impacted. As long the first is true, we can all do out little CTs, if the second is true, I dont see what option exists but for RSS to repeat the medicine given post Djinnah.

I hope the same. I hope this is all media creation. Otherwise, the zhid that LKA is showing and those dilli billi opposing Modi all through last couple of years is all LKA mafia-giri on the party. If Modi is declared today, even if there are certain wars for some more time, it will end this mafia.

My knowledge is that there is no soosooi or chanikian ness from those who are opposing Modi inside BJP/RSS all the way. It is just being part of India's establishment (aka Dilli billi) and mostly a fear of loss to an outsider. However, congress and others in their knee-jerk reactions made all the things that helped Modi even in this internal fight for the finish. (soosooi/chanakyan theories).

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 13 Sep 2013 15:15

Meanwhile Diggy Boy was not allowed to enter Scindia's press conference.
The look on Diggy Boy as doors remain firmly shut in his face - priceless!
If that isn't ignominy, dunno what else is. 10 years is a long time in politics.
Mediacrooks.com has a wonderful story to tell.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 13 Sep 2013 15:24

Muppalla wrote:My knowledge is that there is no soosooi or chanikian ness from those who are opposing Modi inside BJP/RSS all the way. It is just being part of India's establishment (aka Dilli billi) and mostly a fear of loss to an outsider. However, congress and others in their knee-jerk reactions made all the things that helped Modi even in this internal fight for the finish. (soosooi/chanakyan theories).

Either way, should you not then thank the soosai theorists?

I really wish Bhishma lays till the war finishes and then chants Sahastranaama and gives final advice to the world on Dharma before he leaves..

But it is too early to declare Bhishma's fall.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 13 Sep 2013 15:29

Sub.Swamy's take,"Om vs Rome"! That sums up what the next election is all about,an India subservient to firang interests represented by the dynasty ,that has almost been bankrupted in the last decade of its misrule,vs the resurgence of a grass roots/middle class surge towards providing the nation with a cleaner regime that puts India's interests first.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 13 Sep 2013 15:33

Atri wrote:
Muppalla wrote:My knowledge is that there is no soosooi or chanikian ness from those who are opposing Modi inside BJP/RSS all the way. It is just being part of India's establishment (aka Dilli billi) and mostly a fear of loss to an outsider. However, congress and others in their knee-jerk reactions made all the things that helped Modi even in this internal fight for the finish. (soosooi/chanakyan theories).
Either way, should you not then thank the soosai theorists?

I really wish Bhishma lays till the war finishes and then chants Sahastranaama and gives final advice to the world on Dharma before he leaves..

But it is too early to declare Bhishma's fall.

As long as it helps Modi there is no issue

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Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 15:43

harbans wrote:Congress is a Sycophancy, not a Democracy.

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 13 Sep 2013 15:48

Sushupti wrote:
harbans wrote:Congress is a Sycophancy, not a Democracy.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 13 Sep 2013 15:50

^ That should be the tweet of the decade..

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 13 Sep 2013 15:51

Muppalla wrote: As long as it helps Modi there is no issue .

As long as it help BJP (and it turn India) there is no issue.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 16:08

Huge stocks of sweet and crackers have been ordered~NDTV

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 16:14

Surprisingly NDTV coverage of Modi's coronation as PM candidate is deviation from the past.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 13 Sep 2013 16:19

Sushupti wrote:Huge stocks of sweet and crackers have been ordered~NDTV

Burnol stock and market prices must have gone up.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 16:23

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 13 Sep 2013 16:26

Sushupti wrote:

Ok, much against my base instinct, I will hold on before I say I told you so.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 13 Sep 2013 16:27

Sanku ji,

Congratulations!

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Sep 2013 16:28

processions out in bengaluru, TN...

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Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 13 Sep 2013 16:31

Sushupti wrote:Surprisingly NDTV coverage of Modi's coronation as PM candidate is deviation from the past.

Going with the flow only, even Nehru Dynasty Television can't help it.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 16:32

NDTV chasing Modi's motorcade live

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 13 Sep 2013 16:33

Sushupti wrote:

But is he going to be there at the function ???

Samudragupta · Post by **Samudragupta** » 13 Sep 2013 16:33

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Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 16:35

^^^???/

Sagrawal · Post by **Sagrawal** » 13 Sep 2013 16:36

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If that happens, INC will be wiped for sure.