Re: Afghanistan News & Discussion
Posted: 09 Jan 2010 05:41
Actually couple of dozen RAPEs and RAPEttes related to corpse kammandus need waterboarding.
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So, this lady is the mother of 3 and station chief? All at just 30?This 1997 photo released Thursday, Jan. 7, 2010, by Keith Country Day School shows Elizabeth Hanson. Hanson is one of the seven CIA employees killed in a suicide bombing at a remote base near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. Hanson, 30, along with the other CIA employees died Dec. 30 in Khost after a suicide bomber detonated an explosive device.
So, the Amir-khan is more hype than substance when it comes to "state actors"? They do go after "non-state actors" with gusto but "state actors" seem to be a different case.Imad Mughniyah, the man who orchestrated the execution of the deadliest attack on the CIA only died 25 years after the suicide bombing of the Beirut Embassy in April 1983. The Americans can at very best only claim partial credit for that.
The people who actually ordered the attacks in Tehran have never faced any sort of personal retribution for that attack, nor have the people in Damascus who facilitated and signed off on it.
As a high school student, Elizabeth Hanson chose an inspiring quote about life's journey to run with her photo in the yearbook. She possibly never dreamed her path someday would take her from Rockford in northern Illinois to a remote base near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border where she worked for the CIA.
Duane Hanson III of Rockford said the family plans to issue a statement soon about his sister, his only sibling. Until then, he said only that she was born and raised in Rockford, wasn't married or engaged, and that the family hasn't yet planned a memorial service. He said it would be a private service.
She attended Maine's Colby College at the time of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, an event that may have helped shape her career path. The attacks prompted Hanson, an economics major, to review the relationship between religion and economics in her senior year.
Her provocatively titled effort, "Faithless Heathens: Scriptural Economics of Judaism, Christianity and Islam," picked up threads from Christianity's Bible, Judaism's Torah and Islam's Quran, and examined the major monotheistic religions' approach toward economics.
"She wasn't the superstar student that you'd get in a textbook sense but she had an intellectual curiosity and this interest in looking beyond the textbook," he said. "She wasn't very interested in the raw data, but the behaviors behind it."
Looks like base chief was part of Michael Scheuer's team.The attack was a major blow to the CIA in Afghanistan. The bomber killed the CIA base chief in Khost and wounded the Kabul deputy station chief. The base chief, a 45-year-old woman with three small children, was a member of a former unit known as Alec Station created before the Sept. 11 attacks to track down Osama bin Laden.
Former intelligence officials said the base chief had a vast knowledge of al-Qaida. Her family declined to comment Thursday.
WASHINGTON - The suicide bomber who carried out an attack on a CIA firebase in Afghanistan detonated the device as he was about to be searched, and used an explosive so powerful that it killed agency operatives who were as far as 50 feet away, a U.S. intelligence official said Friday.
"The idea that he was treated like a movie star surrounded by adoring fans is just garbage," said the U.S. intelligence official. "The guy was about to be searched when he touched off his bomb. " CIA security officers were "right next to him," the official said. "The others who were killed or wounded were roughly 50 feet away."
"The kind of people who can penetrate Al Qaeda are jihadis themselves," the U.S. intelligence official said. "They're the ones you need, even if you can't trust them The next Mother Theresa won't get in."
It might be garbage but does any sane org gather all the important people in a room and then search a suspect inside the same room?"The idea that he was treated like a movie star surrounded by adoring fans is just garbage," said the U.S. intelligence official. "The guy was about to be searched when he touched off his bomb. " CIA security officers were "right next to him," the official said. "The others who were killed or wounded were roughly 50 feet away."
Not to mention there were six injured as well.sum wrote:It might be garbage but does any sane org gather all the important people in a room and then search a suspect inside the same room?
He was driving across the border from Pakistan where he had spent a year becoming close to Ayman al-Zawahiri, Bin Laden’s Egyptian deputy. That morning, Wednesday December 30, Balawi had been picked up at the Ghulam Khan border crossing by an Afghan army commander called Arghawan, who was in charge of security at the Chapman base. The pair drove to the village of Mermandi, near Khost in southeastern Afghanistan, where at about 12.30pm they were met by Arghawan’s driver.
The driver, who wished to remain anonymous, told The Sunday Times that he had been instructed one week earlier by his boss to paint his white Toyota Corolla red, to put in tinted glass, and to keep his mobile phone on him at all times.
“Arghawan was waiting for me in a white Corolla with Balawi in the back seat,” he said. The driver had never seen Balawi before but said “he was obviously trusted by my commander, Arghawan. The two men clearly knew each other”.
According to the guard, Balawi had been to the base before. He claimed that before the doctor reached the first gate, the Afghan security guards in charge of the perimeter security were instructed by US soldiers to go into their rooms.
“They did not want any Afghans to see Balawi,” he said. A US army vehicle then led the car through the next two gates, reaching the inside of the base before stopping outside a block of buildings used by the CIA and military intelligence to debrief their sources.
As Balawi stepped out of the car, seven CIA officers and a handful of soldiers gathered around. According to the guard, it was then that Balawi detonated his bomb, killing eight and injuring six.
Arghawan, still sitting in the driver’s seat, survived the initial blast but a US soldier shot him in the head with his pistol, assuming that he was part of the bomb plot.
“There were lots of body parts,” said the guard. “The suicide bomber’s legs were all that was left of him. He had hidden the bomb beneath his pattu.”
Gary Berntsen, who led the CIA team to Tora Bora, said the attack “took out decades of experience”. Robert Baer, another former CIA officer, described it as “the equivalent of the army losing a battalion”.
“I can think of at least six basic rules the CIA broke,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Tony Shaffer, a CIA-trained officer who directed operations in Afghanistan for the military's Defence Intelligence Agency in 2003-4.
“You never bring an asset onto a base — apart from anything else you don’t want him to be observed. You can’t be so naive as not to think the Taliban are watching who goes in and out. And why on earth were so many [agents] gathered together?”
Balawi apparently linked up with members of the so-called Haqqani network run by Jalaluddin Haqqani, the Afghan warlord, and his son Siraj. Based in North Waziristan, one of the tribal areas on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border, the Haqqanis are close to Al-Qaeda and were one of the main targets of the CIA agents based just over the border at Chapman.
Agents used polygraphs or lie-detectors to check Balawi’s sincerity. According to one CIA official, he pinpointed several Al-Qaeda targets, which were attacked by US forces, and was “extremely well paid”.
It is the Pakistani links that will most concern the Americans. The TTP has never before carried out an attack inside Afghanistan and the video raises questions about the involvement of the ISI, Pakistan’s intelligence service which has close links with the Haqqani network.
One US official said the chemical fingerprint of the bomb that killed the seven CIA agents matched the kind produced by Pakistani intelligence.
Meanwhile, security has been tightened at Chapman. Even the new head of security is searched every time he enters the base. Sniffer dogs are also on patrol.
As i had said on the day after the blast, it is a MASSIVE, MASSIVE blow to the CIA in Af-pak handling. Throw in the fact that the CIA second in command of A'tan is seriously injured and we know that this is a crippling blow.Gary Berntsen, who led the CIA team to Tora Bora, said the attack “took out decades of experience”. Robert Baer, another former CIA officer, described it as “the equivalent of the army losing a battalion”.
Mike Scheuer says if al-Balawi was not searched, thus leaving the body explosives undetected, it may have been because he was an agent of Jordanian intelligence, which had vouched for him, and the CIA did not want to offend its sister intelligence organization.
"When you are working together with one of your most trusted intelligence services, which the Jordanians are one of our most trusted, you cannot treat them as some kind of third-class citizen," he said. "You almost have to rely on them to do the job themselves. This man was handled by the Jordanians in conjunction with us. And so you do not frisk a friend."
Dozens of Indian labourers have been forced to take refuge in a Kabul gurdwara after job agents who promised lucrative jobs in the unstable capital disappeared, leaving the men penniless and without passports.
Instead, when he arrived in November, he was locked up in a house with other labourers, given only one meal per day and no work or salary. When his visa expired a month later, the agent vanished and the men turned to their embassy in desperation.
A mix of men from Rajasthan, Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh and other states now spend most of the day dozing under blankets waiting for rescue.
Life is so harsh in India for these folks that they pay money to get in to war zones, even on fraudulent visas.“About six months earlier, we had stray cases of Indians sent by unscrupulous agents to Afghanistan from Gulf countries, mainly from Dubai, on the false promise of remunerative employment,” the Indian embassy in Kabul said in a statement. “This trickle suddenly turned to a veritable flood, including also some cases of use of fraudulent visas,” the statement added.
The embassy is helping cover the costs of feeding the men, and has also sent doctors to check their health, but declined to give an overall total of the number affected.
With a little help from expatriates in Kabul and the support of the Indian embassy, the first batch of Indian workers that had been stuck in Afghanistan for the past several weeks after getting duped by travel agents returned to the country on Monday.
Sources said the first set of four labourers, belonging to Azamgarh district in UP, who were stranded in Kabul managed to catch a flight back to India on Monday. While the Indian embassy helped them with exit visas, a few Kabul-based expatriates pitched in for the tickets back home.
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Most of the stranded workers found shelter at the local gurdwara where they are being provided food by the locals. The gurdwara is also being financially supported by the Indian embassy and officials have made personal contributions to keep the kitchens running, sources said.
Nine people were killed when shooting broke out during a mass demonstration in a provincial Afghan town over the alleged burning of a Koran by foreign troops, police said Wednesday.
The violence erupted on Tuesday in the Garmsir district of the southern province of Helmand over rumours that NATO-led forces had defiled a copy of the Muslim holy book during a military operation, local residents and police said.
"During today's (Tuesday's) protest an insurgent sniper shot an Afghan official who was within FOB (Forward Operating Base) Delhiin Garmsir district," ISAF said in a statement.
PGB sir, I disagree with your view on this one. I don't know why we are so scared of cash-mere issue. I think when it comes to international diplomacy, active engagement and not isolation is the key. I've not been to such meetings, but I can say this with confidence that if GoI firmly sticks to its policy that if cash-mere issue does not belong to a certain meeting, period! it does not belong. Just stand up and tell the chair of the meeting to shup up and stick to the agenda. I think the west like to tease GoI on cash-mere but they are not interested in interfering. GoI's policy of no interference by third country in cash-mere issue is great but the fact that it comes up in unwanted meetings (esp. Arab sponsored) is failure of showing a backbone and clever diplomacy.pgbhat wrote:^ why go to meet with ummah brothers where cash-mere issue will be trotted ?
For many years, Sikhs were a prominent part of Kabul’s commercial scene, occupying prominent positions as traders, entrepreneurs, and, later, currency exchange specialists. But in today’s Afghanistan, many Sikhs find themselves marginalized and struggling to maintain their distinct cultural profile in Kabul.
Before more than three decades of nearly uninterrupted strife began with the 1979 Soviet invasion, an estimated 200,000 Sikhs lived in Afghanistan, many of them concentrated in the capital. Although Sikhs escaped the level of violence experienced by Hazaras during the Taliban era, many Sikhs nevertheless came to feel unwelcome and left the country. According to one estimate, only 170 Sikh families now remain in Afghanistan.
Singh indicated that new battles for Afghanistan’s Sikhs are looming. "A new urban plan for the city will require it [the temple] to be demolished, along with a shrine to Guru Nanak that we’ve been hoping to repair after being damaged during Afghanistan’s three decades of war," Singh said.
Folks, I was wrong in saying India was uninvited. See this report: India wary of military role in Afghanistanchanakyaa wrote:PGB sir, I disagree with your view on this one.pgbhat wrote:^ why go to meet with ummah brothers where cash-mere issue will be trotted ?
More than 40 countries discussed Afghanistan and Pakistan on Monday at Abu Dhabi. Satinder K. Lambah, special envoy in the Prime Minister’s office, represented India during the daylong brainstorming session.
“This was essentially a preparatory meeting for the London conference scheduled for January 28,” Mr. Lambah told The Hindu.
“India’s support towards building Afghanistan’s civilian infrastructure has now become visible.
The new parliament building in Kabul is coming up fast and a state-of-the-art children’s hospital that India has built has drawn international attention,” the sources said. The training of Afghan diplomats and government personnel in India is going on in full swing, as is the effort to impart knowledge to Afghan students in advanced areas including information technology, the sources observed.
India is deliberately keeping away from a high profile security role in Afghanistan, in view of the prevailing “regional sensitivities.”
there are reports that Ambulances were used to transport Talibs.shravan wrote:
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Indians are safe.
No agenda in Afghanistan: India...
External Affairs Minister S M Krishna is believed to have told Richard Holbrooke, the US special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, that an early exit by the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) would leave the conflict-ravaged country at the mercy of the Taliban.
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Krishna is understood to have told the US special envoy that New Delhi noted that Obama’s new Af-Pak strategy sought to eliminate the sources of terrorism in Afghanistan and also focussed on the sources of terrorism that operated out of Pakistani territory contiguous to Afghanistan.
NEW DELHI: India on Monday told the United States that it had no agenda in Afghanistan except to see it emerge as a stable and peaceful country.
To this end, India would continue to work in Afghanistan on development projects but with no geo-political ambitions forming the backdrop to this effort, External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna told visiting U.S. Special Envoy on Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke here.
Mr. Holbrooke was also told about India’s involvement in infrastructure building in Afghanistan such as a new Parliament building, transmission lines and roads. All of this indicated no activity that should cause a security concern to some other country.
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Sources in the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) said Mr. Krishna indicated India’s keenness to see the situation stabilise in Afghanistan but professed its disinterestedness on other issues of tactical military importance.
Emerging from the talks, Mr. Holbrooke said India was a “tremendously important participant in the search for peace and stability not only in south Asia but throughout the vast region that stretches from the Mediterranean to the Pacific.”
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MEA officials said they had noted Mr. Holbrooke’s assertion in Kabul on Sunday that the U.S. felt it was up to India and Pakistan to normalise the relations.
Mr. Holbrooke had denied he was acting as a messenger or a go-between in trying to improve ties between the two neighbours.
The United States and Britain are exploring ways to boost India’s role in Afghanistan, including a controversial proposal for it to train the Afghan National Police (ANP), The Times has learnt.
Richard Holbrooke, the US envoy for Pakistan and Afghanistan, was expected to discuss that and other ideas when he began a visit to India yesterday, his first in almost a year.
Robert Gates, the US Defence Secretary, also arrives in Delhi today to discuss issues including expanding co-operation in Afghanistan and boosting US arms sales to India.
The two visits follow a low-profile trip to Delhi last week by Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles, the British “Afpak” envoy, who discussed the ANP training proposal with officials.
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The diplomatic activity reflects a growing desire on all three sides to boost co-operation on regional security, despite differences over Pakistan, a close US ally that is India’s arch enemy. India fiercely resisted being included in Mr Holbrooke’s formal brief last year, and rejected his attempts to raise the issue of Kashmir, which is claimed by India and Pakistan and seen by some as a root cause of regional instability.
Now, however, India appears to want to play a more active role in Afghanistan largely because it fears that Pakistan will engineer a Taleban takeover when foreign troops leave.
“We’ve spent quite a lot of time now talking with the Americans,” M. K. Narayanan, India’s National Security Adviser, told The Times. “We’re involved in infrastructure, we’re involved in building roads and electricity and we’re willing to do even more.”
India also wants to offset the growing influence of its newer rival, China, which is developing a huge copper mine south of Kabul and plans to build a railway across Afghanistan. The US hopes that India, which has already contributed more than $1 billion in aid to Afghanistan, can use its growing economic, political and military clout to act as a democratic bulwark in the region.
But any expansion of India’s influence in Afghanistan risks antagonising Pakistan, which accuses Delhi of using its consulates there to support separatist movements in Pakistan.
The US Embassy declined to give any details about Mr Holbrooke’s visit, or Mr Gates’s, but Mr Narayanan said that the Americans were exploring ways for India to contribute more in Afghanistan — possibly by training the 82,000-strong ANP, which Germany has been handling since 2002.
“We have the best institution for training the civilian police, and the paramilitary to some extent . . . if you want a civilian police with a little bit of strength to the elbow,” Mr Narayanan said.
India was ranked as the most favoured country with 71 per cent of the votes while Pakistan received two per cent of the votes, according to the results of a poll commissioned by the BBC, American Broadcasting Company and German Broadcasting company ARD.
Germany was at the second spot with 59 per cent of the votes in the poll conducted between December 11 and 23 last year.
The U.S. came third with 51 per cent votes followed by Iran with 50 per cent and 39 per cent for Britain.
I see a recent trend where people love to $hit in their own plates.Mukesh.Kumar wrote:Making Headway in Afghanistan
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 482018.cms
What would be interesting to know is how representative was the poll of the Afghan populations view. Hope that this was not one of the multilateral efforts carried out over cocktails at the Serena.
Dear Mukesh Dot Kumar,Mukesh.Kumar wrote: Now, if you had actually made the effort to go into the original report from which this was drawn, you will see:
1) The data is open to interpretation, For example the numbers for India and Pakistan are not matched like to like.
From the document:
2) There is no information of how the 1100 odd samples were drawn.
That is about as much detail as is publicly stated about sampling from any poll I have seen, by Pew, Gallup or any other source.This survey was conducted for ABC News, the BBC and ARD by the Afghan Center for Socio-Economic and Opinion Research (ACSOR) based in Kabul, a D3 Systems Inc. subsidiary. Interviews were conducted in person, in Dari or Pashto, among a random national sample of 1,534 Afghan adults from 11-23 December, 2009.
Now if there were 1,534 Afghans being interviewed by Western pollsters over cocktails at the Serena, I'm sure that the world's most trustworthy and unimpeachable organization...the International Statistics Institute... would have known about it and sent over a Soosai bomber to register their opinion.Hope that this was not one of the multilateral efforts carried out over cocktails at the Serena.