Huh, whatshyamd wrote:Sanku, are you jealous I get info from other sources?
Sure, however since most people usually share links to news and other sources to have a high degree of credibility, and only post uncredited news when it is from chaiwallas, I was "adding to" your post to buttress it.JFYI, I didn't claim that they were from my sources, I posted it to stimulate discussion.
They behave just like how Barkha Dutt talks when she talks about Narendra Modi and Saffron terror.Austin wrote:Most of Israel analyst i see on TV go ballistic when the word Iran comes up , at timesnow discussion today an Israel Strategic Affair analyst from Tel Aviv even went to the extent of declaring the Iran to Hitler and their plans to change global landscape.
But Iran doesn't have the bum as yet. An Osirak type strike is unlikely, but not totally impossible.gakakkad wrote:I doubt there will be an actual war. There was a lot of noise during the NoKo episode . But it all died ot because there was a very real possibility of them having the bum . A nukular Iran is definitely an existential threat to Israel . Israel would be idiotic to actually try attacking Iran . One n-Jhapad from Iran and Israel is lost forever . I hope sense prevails .
I guess that is diplomatic speech for immediate obedience to Uncle Sam's wishes.Most important, India must begin to provide the kind of visible leadership on difficult issues such as Iran that its many friends in the US and around the world had expected to see by now.
And that could be the sole purpose of this bomb, to change indian mindset on Iran... considering that India is a fence sitter on Iran.eklavya wrote: The terrorist attack on the Israeli diplomat in New Delhi yesterday (no matter who did it) will accelerate India's shift to the US/Israel column.
Thai investigators believe they have found a link between this week’s bomb blasts in Bangkok and New Delhi, a senior security official said Wednesday, two of three attacks Israel has blamed on Iran, and which Iran has in turn blamed on Israel.
This bomb was planted by terrorists, and the US and Israeli government are not terrorists. No US/Israeli official can dare order an attack on their own citizen. We should not insult our friends in this way.AdityaM wrote:If one was to give a benefit of doubt to iran:And that could be the sole purpose of this bomb, to change indian mindset on Iran... considering that India is a fence sitter on Iran.eklavya wrote: The terrorist attack on the Israeli diplomat in New Delhi yesterday (no matter who did it) will accelerate India's shift to the US/Israel column.
But what about Thailand? How are they relevant to this situation to engineer opinion there?
If india loses Iran, we loose Afghanistan.
And who gains from this sticky bomb? I guess the sticky rice eaters and their friends with the sticky hands
Even the US Director of National Intelligence doesn't say so, as recently as January 31, 2012, in testimony to the US Senate....Iran is hell bent on acquiring nukes
Japan, by the way, has exactly these capabilities, and one has to ask why is it legitimate for Japan to have these capabilities, but Iran not to? Merely because we don't like Iran?We assess Iran is keeping open the option to develop nuclear weapons, in part by developing various nuclear capabilities that better position it to produce such weapons, should it choose to do so. We do not know, however, if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons.
....Iran's technical advancement, particularly in uranium enrichment, strengthens our assessment that Iran has the scientific, technical and industrial capacity to eventually produce nuclear weapons, making the central issue its political will to do so.
India is not obliged!A_Gupta wrote:And you should ask why India is obliged to respond to such dubious claims.
It is evident that you are not able to view Iran objectively, but only through a Western media lens, or else because Iran is Islamic.eklavya wrote:BTW, if Japan or any other country had Iran's immense hydrocarbon resources, and insisted on its right to develop uranium enrichment capabilities, it would be fairly safe to assume that the country in question is looking for a strategic deterrent, and not merely an alternative source of energy.
Why with such immense hydrocarbon reserves, was it OK for Iran to develop nuclear power under the Shah of Iran?Iran's nuclear program began in the Shah's era, including a plan to build 20 nuclear power reactors. Two power reactors in Bushehr, on the coast of the Persian Gulf, were started but remained unfinished when they were bombed and damaged by the Iraqis during the Iran-Iraq war. Following the revolution in 1979, all nuclear activity was suspended, though subsequently work was resumed on a somewhat more modest scale. Current plans extend to the construction of 15 power reactors and two research reactors.
A_Gupta,A_Gupta wrote:It is evident that you are not able to view Iran objectively, but only through a Western media lens, or else because Iran is Islamic.eklavya wrote:BTW, if Japan or any other country had Iran's immense hydrocarbon resources, and insisted on its right to develop uranium enrichment capabilities, it would be fairly safe to assume that the country in question is looking for a strategic deterrent, and not merely an alternative source of energy.
Iranian oil production peaked in 1974, and has not been able to rise because of embargoes on technology since the revolution in 1979. With the technology available to it, Iran's oil production is shrinking at 8-10% per year.
Jayanth Jacob, Hindustan Times
New Delhi, February 16, 2012
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As pressure mounts for the isolation of Iran for its nuclear programme and the attack on Israeli embassy personnel in Delhi, India is doing a fine balancing act in maintaining its ties with the Islamic republic. New Delhi has opposed the proliferation of nuclear weapons in West Asia but it wants to continue its friendly ties with Tehran for oil and much more.
India has to factor in the reality that Iran, a “near neighbour”, is its only surface access route to Afghanistan and central Asia. Besides, six million Indians work in Iran and countries around it, official sources said.
But because India has close ties with the US and Israel — at the forefront of the call to isolate Iran — India believes in giving “maximum scope” for dialogue to resolve the crisis.
Regarding the attack on its embassy personnel in Delhi on Monday, Israel kept up the pressure on India, stressing its “conviction” that Tehran and its Lebanese ally Hezbollah were behind it. But India has maintained it has no evidence to point to Iran’s involvement.
“We have no individual, no entity, no organisation or no country to pinpoint,” the external affairs ministry spokesperson said on Wednesday as the Israeli ambassador to India Alon Ushpiz met with external affairs minister S M Krishna.
Reacting to Israel’s charges, Iran’s envoy to India Mehdi Nabizadeh said, “We are not accepting or denying it. It (the attack) happened in India. If Indian security says something, then we will have to verify it. We hope India will verify the case to know the real position.”
Yes, but sanctions have been on since 1979, not just since Iran restarted its nuclear program.eklavya wrote: v) If Iran was not subject to sanctions, its oil & gas production could be much much higher.
The National Security Guard (NSG) was not allowed to gather forensic samples from the Israel embassy car blast site near the Prime Minister’s house on Monday because of “some diplomatic reasons”, a senior official said today.
The disclosure came on a day an Israeli team, including Mossad officials, met Indian investigators and provided inputs, including a suggestion that a local module could have used a magnetic bomb supplied from abroad.
“It was very weird that our post-blast study team was not allowed to visit the site and gather samples, citing some diplomatic reasons. Our experts, whose only job is to study and conduct research based on collected samples, were denied this opportunity,” the official added.
The NSG’s National Bomb Data Centre (NBDC) is the nodal agency for analysing and recording all bombings in the country and it acts as the repository for research and study.
Since its inception in 2003, its sleuths have gathered samples from all the blast sites in the country. “Our team collected samples from all the blast sites over the past nine years. It is really sad that it was not allowed to do so despite having its office in Delhi,” the official said.
The NSG sent a team on Monday night to the Tughlak Road police station to collect some samples from the Innova wrecked by the bomb. “By that time the car was washed off by water used to douse the flames.… Our team managed to get some samples,” the officer said.
PTI quoted NSG director-general R.K. Medhekar as telling reporters in Gurgaon: “Let me clarify, we were not involved in the analysis of this particular incident. Having said that, I can only make an educated guess like you that it is an explosive device.”
The Israeli team that met investigators here has raised the possibility of a local module having executed the attack.
“We told the Israeli team that so far there was no evidence of Hezbollah or similar foreign groups operating in Delhi. They told us about the possibility that the magnetic bomb came from outside and the attack could have been carried out by a local module,” said a senior Intelligence Bureau official.
The Israeli officials also examined the Innova.
A senior home ministry official later clarified that the Israeli team had not joined the investigation but was only providing inputs. Such a clarification — largely technical because the Israelis would in any case be conducting their own investigation — was perhaps intended at addressing criticism from domestic agencies shut out of the probe.
Officials said security agencies in the capital are working on all angles, including whether operatives of terror outfits active in India were involved.
“But it’s not an easy job as we are yet to get hold of the biker who holds the key to the probe. It will take some time to reach any conclusion. We cannot investigate such a sensitive case with some preconceived notions,” an official said.
Delhi police commissioner B.K. Gupta said the only piece of “evidence” the investigators had got so far was that the biker was riding a “red” motorcycle.
“The CCTV footage is too hazy and so far it has not helped much as the biker was wearing a helmet. We have got some inputs but nothing concrete has come out. Preliminary report has showed traces of potassium chlorate (in the sticky bomb),” he said, iterating that no evidence has been found so far suggesting Iran’s involvement.
Around 10,000 police personnel have been asked to scout for red motorcycles plying on the city roads and check the antecedents of owners. They have been instructed to visit lanes and bylanes in search of abandoned red bikes.
“We have asked our personnel to collect fingerprints immediately if they find any abandoned red motorcycle. The bike is the most important piece of evidence,” the police chief said.
Sleuths at the special cell went into overdrive today as soon as they were informed about an abandoned red motorcycle near a park in Lado Sarai in south Delhi.
“We found that the motorcycle was sold three times and the last owner was traced to Gurgaon. He is being questioned to ascertain his antecedents and whether he had links with the attack,” said an officer.
Another unclaimed red motorcycle at Connaught Place was found to be a stolen one.
All the road intersections in the capital have been barricaded and police pickets were seen stopping motorcycles. “There will be thousands of red motorcycles in the capital. Many policemen also own red motorcycles,” said an officer at Parliament Street station.
Going by what Thailands Police Chief is quoted as saying, Iran just could really be dumb and acting in the same manner as the Islamic Terrorist supporting Islamic Republic of Pakistan.sum wrote:^^ Either Iran is really dumb and TSP like( which i doubt) when it uses its own citizens( which is almost like a smoking gun) to target Israel in 3rd countries( like Thai, India etc) instead of using proxies or there are a load of wheels within wheels here with multiple false flag ops also getting into the picture.
Iranian Suspects ‘Targeted’ Israelis: Thai Police
By Daniel Ten Kate and Suttinee Yuvejwattana - Feb 15, 2012
Iranians arrested after blasts on a Bangkok street aimed to attack Israeli diplomats, and the devices used were similar to bombs targeting Israelis in India and Georgia this week, according to Thailand’s police chief.
“The suspects targeted Israeli diplomats in Thailand,” Priewphan Damaphong told reporters in Bangkok yesterday, hours after he confirmed that the Bangkok bombs contained magnets designed to attach to vehicles. India’s initial investigations suggest that a magnetic device was attached to an Israeli diplomat’s car on Feb. 13 in New Delhi seconds before it exploded injuring the woman, the city’s police commissioner, B.K. Gupta, has said.
“The type of explosive device is similar to the incident in India,” Priewphan told reporters in Bangkok. The men “were not targeting a place.” .............................
Bloomberg
RajeshA wrote:Until a war between GCC/Israel/NATO vs Iran doesn't start all talk of war is hot-air, and India should not take any sides before that. We can promise GCC/Israel/NATO that we would not come to support Iran militarily or politically in a war, but they should not push us, before it gets started.
Not sure which poster you're talking about but pretty sure I'm not him...???bahdada wrote:Calm down Francis.
I thought this had been sufficiently explained ad nauseum. Iran is responsible for 12% of India's imported oil, and the US\Isreal now want us to stop buying Iranian oil and get it from the Saudis instead (at much higher cost, of course). This being part of the overall effort to stop all Iranian oil exports and finish off their already weakened economy, as part of the broader campaign to ultimately topple the regime.sunnydee wrote:1. Who has suggested we cut off Iranian oil supplies even if they conducted the attacks on indian soil ?
NEW DELHI: On Tuesday, police commissioner B K Gupta told reporters he had spent hours researching sticky bombs. Officers then distributed printouts which ostensibly explained what a sticky bomb is.
The printout stated, "Sticky bombs are a type of explosives crafted from one Bomb and 5 Gel. At point blank range, it can cause a total of 100 damage to mobs and 200 to the player". It also listed 'Statistics' as: Damage 100, Max Stack 50, Shoot Speed 5, Use Time 24, Sell 1.
These seem unusual ingredients for making a bomb. A net search showed the matter seemed to have been downloaded from Terraria Wiki, used by gamers who play online game Terraria.
