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Magnitude 7.2 quake hits Pakistan
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Its exact epicenter was in a remote area some 200 miles (320 kilometers) southwest of the Baluchistan capital of Quetta, said chief Pakistani meteorologist Arif Mahmood.
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Tremors lasting at least 20 seconds were also felt as far away as Dubai in the United Arab Emirates and in India's capital, New Delhi.
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Usman Zahid, a night manager at Serina Hotel in Quetta, Pakistan, felt the quake. He said it was "frightening" and estimated that it lasted about 20 seconds. It caused "broken glass in the kitchen" and caused the chandelier to swing, but caused no major damage, he said.

nothing much in quetta, looks like this occured in the wild wild desert.
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How many met their 72? That is - if this qualifies for meeting with the 72...... Probably it doesn't.
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Pakistan is a front line ally, and a victim, of the war of the Tectonic plates - Naturally Pakistan expects all countries located in the respective tectonic plates to contribute to the more than $100.00 billion damage that may have been caused by this 7.2 earthquake.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ttack.html
Taliban leader Mullah Omar 'has had a heart attack'
( Jannat Ki tyari, Chor Poakland ,abb 72 ki Khumari)
Mullah Omar, the one-eyed leader of the Taliban has been operated on in Pakistan in order to save his life after a heart attack, according to reports.Omar and his associates are said to base themselves in Quetta across the Pakistan border from Afghanistan, where they allegedly have the protection of the Pakistani military. The report suggests that the Pakistanis are keen to keep him alive to preserve their influence over the Taliban, despite official denials. Omar had a heart attack on January 7 and was treated for several days in a hospital in Karachi, according to the report by a company run by former CIA and military officers and carried online by the Washington Post. A doctor at the hospital, which was not identified, said he saw Omar struggling to recover from an operation to put a stent – an artificial tube – in his heart. He is now said to be at a safe-house run by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, in Karachi.
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So it was an angioplasty and not a bypass. The former is half hour procedure in India.

Too much roghan josh.
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Ananya wrote:
ramana wrote:What depth? If its shallow (less than a mile) then its not nature.
The earthquake occurred at 1:23 a.m. (3:23 p.m. Tuesday ET) at a depth of 84 kilometers (52 miles).

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... tml?hpt=T2.

another round of begging will start ....
U hartless yindoo buggers.. Sab kuch yindoo Jew konspiracy...

Hum begging nahin karte... Hum dimaand karte...

Hum ko cashmere de do... Hamko billions de do.. Hum ko nuclear plants de do... Hamara textile quota bada do...
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ramana wrote:Taseer has been making the very same demands and threats as the TSPA. So he is no different than the regular RAPE or Jihadis. And the eulogy writer is of same bent of mind.
From the american article it is all about India

The question is if it is really Taseer demand or American using his name to get their political interest taken care of.

Crucial are, as Taseer argued, political, strategic, economic and psychological support. First is textile tariff relief that will not cost U.S. workers a single job. Second is agreeing to discussions on a nuclear treaty similar to the one signed with India. Third is using U.S. and other major powers to encourage negotiations between India and Pakistan to reduce tensions and flash points whether over Kashmir or Mumbai-style threats.
This is supposed to fix Pakistans internal problems.
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amrullah saleh was on frontline. brief segment. gist: serious no to deal with the T's and get serious with TSP.


See & Read more here: “I do not consider Pakistan an asset. I consider Pakistan a global liability.”
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Thanks Shaardulaji for sharing it. Amrullah Saleh's views are so clear and straight forward.
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Prem wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ttack.html
Taliban leader Mullah Omar 'has had a heart attack'
( Jannat Ki tyari, Chor Poakland ,abb 72 ki Khumari)

A doctor at the hospital, which was not identified, said he saw Omar struggling to recover from an operation to put a stent – an artificial tube – in his heart. He is now said to be at a safe-house run by Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, in Karachi.
Putting in a stent is a routine operation. Looks like the Paks managed to botch it.
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partha wrote:Amrullah Saleh's views are so clear and straight forward.
As he always has been.
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Rolling Back the Poison in Pakistan - Nirupama Subramanian in The Hindu
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SSridhar wrote:Rolling Back the Poison in Pakistan - Nirupama Subramanian in The Hindu
While I generally like and approve of Nirumapa Subramanyam's views she is wrong here (quote is at bottom)

She asks that the military should come out against the sort of intolerance that Taseer's killing exposes and argues that the "establishment" would then be able to clean up.

As I see it Pakistan's military is split. "Split" not as in two factions about to get at each other's throats but its choices are bad enough for it to do nothing.

If the Paki army supports the Westernized RAPE - the rank and file, from which Taseers killer came, will empty clips into the jernails who do that.

If the Paki army supports the Islamists openly (rather than pretending to be opposed to them), US aid will dry up and the risk of direct intervention in Pakistan increases.

The best "prayer" that the Paki army and the "establishment" who have always served as a "moderate front" for the Paki army can offer is to ask for
1) Allah please remove the Americans from Afghanistan so we can declare victory
2) Allah please remove Indians from Cashmere so we can declare victory
3) If we can declare victory our own yahoos will not bay for our blood and we can give them one more taqiya speech and say "OK we have won everything. Now is the time to declare taqiya and pretend to be moderate to get more aid"

The sooner Nirupama Subramaniam ans the erst of teh world realises that this is what is happening in Pakistan, the faster they will stop hoping for magical means by which status quo can be maintained.
But as the primary arbiter of national affairs in Pakistan, it is the army alone that is equipped to put up an effective political challenge to extremism. For one, it could come out with a strong condemnation of the killing of Salman Taseer, which it has not done so far. It could declare its whole-hearted backing to any attempt by the political government to make changes to laws that encourage extremism and religious intolerance. It could also openly come out in favour of changing the school curriculum and for reforms in the madrassa education systems.

Such steps would send strong signals through the establishment for a clean-up, and to the rest of the nation. Of course, it would mean several changes in the Army's own thinking. It would mean that the Pakistan Army stops looking at the Islamists as an ally. That, in turn, would mean a serious rethink by the army on its own role in Pakistan and, by extension, it would imply a rethink of its India-centric worldview.
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Magnitude 7.2 quake hits Pakistan
Temblor hits the southwest part of the country at 1:30 a.m. local time Wednesday

AOA

YA Allah you are "maherban" and send another big chance for making money. This is a sign that killing of kaffir Salman has pleased you, be assured that now purest form of Islam is coming to Pakistan which even Taliban can't dreamed off. Even Taliban is kuffar compared to our form of Islam which we will implement first in Pakistan and than on every one on earth, Insallah.
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Ashoka

How many met their 72? That is - if this qualifies for meeting with the 72...... Probably it doesn't.
Don't worry, Pakis are master of art of begging. There will be fake broken houses, Abdulls and Aysha's will be lying and photos will be floated as if they are dead. Few will be genuinly sahidised for Allah's sake so money will flow to Jihadis for work of Islam.
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Any chance that a Bomb shelter housign PAF F-16's in Dalbadin or Jacobabad collasped destroying a few aircraft or Missile Silos. That would be a good outcome fromt he earthquake.
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SSridhar wrote:Rolling Back the Poison in Pakistan - Nirupama Subramanian in The Hindu
This outpouring of sympathy from Indian liberals for this low life RAPE Taseer is getting tiresome if not a tragic comedy. I wonder if the scotch-sipping TSPA/ISI top brass might be lauging their butts off looking at such profuse sympathy from Indians for the very guy who like them used the same killers against India, and are plotting another one.
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CRamS wrote: This outpouring of sympathy from Indian liberals for this low life RAPE Taseer is getting tiresome if not a tragic comedy.
At least we should not make being liberal as being a bad thing by calling these Indians as "liberals". These may be people with varying agendas, and different loyalties. Who knows what. If they are liberals, what are the rest of us then? right wing? even if you mean it sarcastically, it is not that obvious. I am of the opinion that we on BRF should use our terms a tad carefully.
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from Amrullah Saleh link above..
Well, there's a difference, though, between hands-off policy by the ISI toward operatives and actually running them.

[Saleh]I am afraid the United States is becoming again so legalistic like before 9/11, and that will hurt you.

But you're an intelligence man. There is a difference, would you not admit, between a hands-off policy and actual employment and running him as an agent? Are we talking here about the refusal of the ISI to cooperate with you in going after people, or are we talking about active ISI-led operations?

[Saleh]ISI has created a space for Al Qaeda, Haqqani and Taliban to launch operations. Without their protection, without them tolerating the presence of these operatives to do planning, training and using Pakistani soil they won't be able to do these operations. So ISI knows they are doing it, and ISI is happy they are doing it, because through them, Pakistan promotes her policy in Afghanistan, and the policy is, "Taliban are ours, and they are to dominate Afghanistan."

And we're going to help those who help them by protecting them? By not arresting them?

[Saleh]Sure.

Have you ever arrested somebody engaged in a Taliban operation who was carrying papers that identified them as having communications with the ISI?

[Saleh]Too many.

Can you give me an example of that?

[Saleh]For example, there is a guy called Sayed Akbar. He's an active ISI officer, and he was embedded with Taliban in Kunar. We arrested him, and he's in jail.

Give me another example.

[Saleh]Another example -- my colleagues and the police arrested another ISI man fighting, embedded with Taliban in Farah.

How did they know he was an ISI man?

[Saleh]He's saying he's an ISI man. He gives his regiment and his office, everything.

Can you give me another example? :roll:

[Saleh]I wouldn't because we have an expression: When you buy apples, you just look at one, and don't necessarily look at each and every apple you buy. So what is the point going over and over this? Americans know ISI is hurting them.
A most excellent gentleman this Saleh is..
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archan wrote:
CRamS wrote: This outpouring of sympathy from Indian liberals for this low life RAPE Taseer is getting tiresome if not a tragic comedy.
At least we should not make being liberal as being a bad thing by calling these Indians as "liberals". These may be people with varying agendas, and different loyalties. Who knows what. If they are liberals, what are the rest of us then? right wing? even if you mean it sarcastically, it is not that obvious. I am of the opinion that we on BRF should use our terms a tad carefully.
These are not liberals but superficial silly people with no moral compass. To them, drinking, speaking english, wearing suits, lipstick, eating pork etc. are indistinguishable from being "good" "liberal" "secular" pakis. The only explanation I can think of is that fear of pakis / muslims is so deep in their DNA that they gratefully embrace any paki that doesn't have the outward markers of what they think of as aggressive musalmaans, such as beard, topi, preference for urdu over english etc.
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Pak teenager paraded naked
Islamabad: A 17-year-old Pakistani girl was abducted, gang-raped and paraded naked around the streets of her village in Punjab province for spurning the advances of a landlord, according to a media report on Tuesday. Local residents said the girl was alone in her home when five men broke into her house and raped her. Her brother told police that Ahmed had been stalking his sister for several months and she had spurned his advances.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110119/world.htm
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Another visa / refugee.

Now to see the song and dance by the political class to brush this under the carpet / try and shift the blame onto the poor victim.
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What Pakistan did right
BY C. CHRISTINE FAIR

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... _did_right
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More of the stale hackeneyed tripe from Bruce Riedel. It seems to me that US govt & think tanks are embarked on a focused strategy to make India part of AfPak, and con India into giving Kashmir to TSP. First, they paint this sorry state of TSP, jihadi, failed state bla bla. Music perhaps to Indian ears. Then they throw in that bit about how nuke-armed Jihadist TSP is a threat to the world, and then the fun starts. They continue to add that above all, TSP poses the biggest threat to India. True. And then comes the sonata to naive Indian ears: India is on the verge of becoming a super power but for TSP's sickness. And the con job follows. US-mediated piss process betwen India & TSP to find "solution" to Kashmir. Now MMS himself has repeated this kind of nonsensical logic, but how far deep into the Indian strategic establishment have the Americans spread this poison, I don't know.

I have one simple question to Riedel. If nuke-armed, failed TSP poses such a threat to the world, why not US use its power to make TSP nuke nude? Simple geo-political logic demands that, does it not? After all, with a fraction of the threat Iran poses, US uses the very same logic and have rendered Iran nuke nude through Stuxnet, sanctons, military threat etc. Why not adopt the same strategy with TSP? Why does everthing have to come back to India giving Kashmir or whatever else TSP wants from India?
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Seymour Hersh unleashed

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/201 ... _unleashed
Moving to Pakistan, where Hersh noted he had been friendly with Benazir Bhutto, the journalist told of a dinner meeting with Asif Ali Zardari, the late prime minister’s husband, in which Hersh said the Pakistani president was brutally disdainful of his own people.

Hersh described a trip he made to Swat, where the Pakistani military had just dislodged Taliban insurgents who had taken over the scenic valley, a traditional vacation area for the urban middle class. Hersh said he asked Zardari about the tent cities he saw along the road, where people were living in harsh, unsanitary conditions.

“Well, those people there in Swat, that’s what they deserve,” :eek: the Pakistani president replied, according to Hersh. Asked why, Hersh said Zardari responded, “Because they supported the Taliban.” (Note: Hersh's conversation is not recounted in his 2009 New Yorker article on Pakistan's nuclear weapons, presumably because it coudn't be verified.)

The veteran journalist also alleged that the CIA station chief in Islamabad, who was recently recalled after his name surfaced in Pakistani court documents and in the lively Pakistani press, had actually been fired for disputing the plans of Gen. David Petraeus, who took over the Afghan war last summer after General McChrystal was summarily dismissed.

"When Petraeus issued a very optimistic report about the war in December that he gave to the president," Hersh said, the station chief "just declared it was bankrupt... internally. He just said ‘This is completely wrongheaded. The policy's wrongheaded.' Off he goes. Out he goes."

"I've given up being disillusioned about the CIA," Hersh said. "They're trained to lie, period. They will lie to their president, they will lie certainly to the Congress, and they will lie to the American people. That's all there is to it."
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jash_p wrote:
Magnitude 7.2 quake hits Pakistan
Temblor hits the southwest part of the country at 1:30 a.m. local time Wednesday

AOA

YA Allah you are "maherban" and send another big chance for making money. This is a sign that killing of kaffir Salman has pleased you, be assured that now purest form of Islam is coming to Pakistan which even Taliban can't dreamed off. Even Taliban is kuffar compared to our form of Islam which we will implement first in Pakistan and than on every one on earth, Insallah.
:lol: :lol:
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BRF mullahs did you see the times now earthquake footing. People are folding hands and looking up in the most kafir way. Why ?
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Reviewing security: Proposal seeks US guards for president

In the backdrop of Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer’s murder by his own police guard, a proposal is under consideration that will bring in special security guards from the United States for President Asif Ali Zardari, according to highly-placed sources. a larger proposal is also under consideration by the government to hire the services of foreign security guards for a number of VVIPs including the prime minister, provincial governors, chief ministers, and a few federal ministers, the source told The Express Tribune requesting anonymity.
Zardari will be as safe as the Nukes finally :wink: :mrgreen:
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Anujan wrote:
Reviewing security: Proposal seeks US guards for president

In the backdrop of Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer’s murder by his own police guard, a proposal is under consideration that will bring in special security guards from the United States for President Asif Ali Zardari, according to highly-placed sources. a larger proposal is also under consideration by the government to hire the services of foreign security guards for a number of VVIPs including the prime minister, provincial governors, chief ministers, and a few federal ministers, the source told The Express Tribune requesting anonymity.
Zardari will be as safe as the Nukes finally :wink: :mrgreen:
Will US increase the aid money to Pak so that they can hire US security guards or will it deduct the service charges and then transfer the money?!
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PM of pakistan turns 400% pure - Salman Taseer effect

Can’t even think of making amendment in Pak’s blasphemy law: Gilani
http://www.zeenews.com/news681547.html
Dera Ghazi Khan: The Pakistan Government has no plans to amend the country’s controversial blasphemy law, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani has categorically stated.

“Neither have we thought of it nor we are going to think of such a thing,” the Daily Times quoted Gilani, as saying in his address after inaugurating the sub-campuses of the Allama Iqbal Open University (AIOU) and the Bahauddin Zakariya University (BZU) at the AIOU office.

“I cannot even think of making an amendment in the blasphemy law,” said the PM.


Muzzammil Hassan- Most Pure son of Pakistan

Pak-American TV executive stabbed wife 40 times: US court told
http://www.zeenews.com/news681591.html
New York: A Pakistani-American TV executive stabbed his wife 40 times and then sawed off her head because she "dared to file for divorce", prosecutors told a New York jury in opening arguments.
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Raghavendra wrote:PM of pakistan turns 400% pure - Salman Taseer effect

Can’t even think of making amendment in Pak’s blasphemy law: Gilani
http://www.zeenews.com/news681547.html
Dera Ghazi Khan: The Pakistan Government has no plans to amend the country’s controversial blasphemy law, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani has categorically stated.

“Neither have we thought of it nor we are going to think of such a thing,” the Daily Times quoted Gilani, as saying in his address after inaugurating the sub-campuses of the Allama Iqbal Open University (AIOU) and the Bahauddin Zakariya University (BZU) at the AIOU office.

“I cannot even think of making an amendment in the blasphemy law,” said the PM.
I thought PeePeePee was a "liberal, secular" party :wink:
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CRamS wrote:This outpouring of sympathy from Indian liberals for this low life RAPE Taseer is getting tiresome if not a tragic comedy.
KLNMurthy wrote:These are not liberals but superficial silly people with no moral compass.
I think that you two gentlemen have gone overboard without reading the op-ed.

There is not one sentence of sympathy for Salman Taseer in that article, leave alone an outpouring. Ms. Nirupama has suggested just one approach to recovering the space lost to extremists in Pakistan, a suggestion that is absolutely ridiculous. We can and should fault her for that, but not otherwise.

Nirupama and others like her who somehow think that the Pakistani clock can be turned back, have either not really understood the very foundations of the problem or pretend so for various reasons. Salman Taseer's assassination is somehow touted as a watershed event. No, it is not. It is just another event in the continuum that was set ticking by Aga Khan, Sir Syed Ahmed Khan and the like in 1906, then taken forward by Allama Iqbal, Mawdudi, Sheikh Usmani, Sheikh Thanvi et al. In earlier times (17th & 18th centuries), it was set ticking by the likes of Sirhindi, Waliullah et al. These people and their thoughts have reinforced each other and led to the current pass.

Most people believe that somehow the Berelvis are not as frothing-at-the-mouth-corners as the Salafi/Wahhabi/Deobandi/Ahl-e-Hadees (SWDA) and hence acceptable. Wrong. While in some aspects and practices, they might be different from the latter and appear therefore to be more enlightened, the Berelvis are as extremist as their more well known brothers. The following is what Ibn Taymiyya (whom the SWDA revere): ‘if infidels take shelter behind Muslims, and these Muslims become a shield for the infidels, it is permitted to kill Muslims in order to get at the infidels.’.This is exactly the basis on which the Berelvis have carried out Salman Taseer's assassination now. Though a small group (not in Pakistan but elsewhere) has tried to argue that the Mardin Declaration (as it is called) of Taymiyya quoted above was a misrepresentation because of a typographical error, go and tell that to Mumtaz Qadri and see him commit another murder. Such is the hold of some of the concepts of Islam on people.

It is also ridiculous to expect the PA to change the omnipresent radicalism. This is like asking the thief to be the cop. Let the question be first asked if the PA can tackle the extremism widely prevalent within itself. Forget about serving officers, can anybody take action against retired PA offficers like Hamid Gul or Mirza Aslam Beg or Javid Nasir for preaching jihad and hatred ? Chiefs of Armed Forces and Intelligence (both serving and retired) regularly attend the Tableeghi Jama'at's annual conference at Raiwind. What kind of message does a military send when it names its missiles after some of the most savage Islamist marauders who committed genocide of the worst kind, just because they were Muslims and most of those killed were Hindus and most of the places looted and plundered were Hindu temples ?

Nirupama should know better than what she has written, having spent four years in Islamabad. I am always intrigued whether it is The Hindu that attracts people with this attitude or people change after getting a job there.
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One dead, 17 injured in Peshawar blast

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/19/one-kill ... osion.html
ESHAWAR: A bomb planted in a horse cart exploded near a school in Peshawar’s Nothia area on Wednesday, killing one person and wounding 17 others, officials said.
Wow, our pious moojahids are getting creative day by day. Bicycles, Trucks, Tankers, Tractors, UVs and now Ghoda Gadi. What next?
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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SSridhar wrote: Nirupama and others like her who somehow think that the Pakistani clock can be turned back, have either not really understood the very foundations of the problem or pretend so for various reasons. Salman Taseer's assassination is somehow touted as a watershed event. No, it is not. It is just another event in the continuum that was set ticking by Aga Khan, Sir Syed Ahmed Khan and the like in 1906, then taken forward by Allama Iqbal, Mawdudi, Sheikh Usmani, Sheikh Thanvi et al. In earlier times (17th & 18th centuries), it was set ticking by the likes of Sirhindi, Waliullah et al. These people and their thoughts have reinforced each other and led to the current pass.

Sridharji , as usual an excellent piece.

When it comes to image management, the Pakistani army has done a good job. The likes of NS seem to have a lot of faith in it.
As you pointed out, there is common fallacy and misconception that preaching jihad and hatred is seen as something not expected out of the army. We should remind all those who expect it to save the country from this over radicalism , this , their motto : Iman , Taqwa, Jihad-fi-Sabilillah
This should be pointed out to those Western journalists - and we should see the reaction.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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Narad wrote:One dead, 17 injured in Peshawar blast

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/19/one-kill ... osion.html
ESHAWAR: A bomb planted in a horse cart exploded near a school in Peshawar’s Nothia area on Wednesday, killing one person and wounding 17 others, officials said.
Wow, our pious moojahids are getting creative day by day. Bicycles, Trucks, Tankers, Tractors, UVs and now Ghoda Gadi. What next?
Goat bombs :mrgreen:
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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Raghavendra wrote:"Narad" wrote One dead, 17 injured in Peshawar blast

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/19/one-kill ... osion.html
ESHAWAR: A bomb planted in a horse cart exploded near a school in Peshawar’s Nothia area on Wednesday, killing one person and wounding 17 others, officials said.
Wow, our pious moojahids are getting creative day by day. Bicycles, Trucks, Tankers, Tractors, UVs and now Ghoda Gadi. What next?

Goat bombs :mrgreen:

Ouch! that would be really painful to next Mujahid upto some Hanky Panky.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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Hamid Gul:India has designs to destabilise Pakistan
And now India has created another organisation which is called RAMA. It may be news to you that very soon this intelligence agency -- of course, they have decided to keep it covert -- but it is Research and Analysis Milli Afghanistan. That's the name. The Indians have helped create this organisation, and its job is mainly to destabilise Pakistan."
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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Aditya_V wrote:
Raghavendra wrote:"Narad" wrote One dead, 17 injured in Peshawar blast

http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/19/one-kill ... osion.html

A bomb planted in a horse cart exploded near a school in Peshawar’s Nothia area on Wednesday, killing one person and wounding 17 others, officials said.

Wow, our pious moojahids are getting creative day by day. Bicycles, Trucks, Tankers, Tractors, UVs and now Ghoda Gadi. What next?

Goat bombs :mrgreen:

Ouch! that would be really painful to next Mujahid upto some Hanky Panky.
Goat love is old fashioned
Pakistani birathers are planning to get Temporary protected visas and aiming for Hunny Bunnies
http://www.zeenews.com/news680721.html
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

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SSridhar wrote:Salman Taseer's assassination is somehow touted as a watershed event. No, it is not. It is just another event in the continuum that was set ticking by Aga Khan, Sir Syed Ahmed Khan and the like in 1906, then taken forward by Allama Iqbal, Mawdudi, Sheikh Usmani, Sheikh Thanvi et al. In earlier times (17th & 18th centuries), it was set ticking by the likes of Sirhindi, Waliullah et al. These people and their thoughts have reinforced each other and led to the current pass.
SSridhar garu,
Salman Taseer's assassination may not even register in the big scheme of things, but for current politics it is a sort of watershed.

There was a compact between the Pakistani military and the RAPE. The RAPE's part of the deal was to sell Pakistan to the Western elite and opinion-makers, to make the Western elite comfortable in dealing with the Pakistani Army, to increase the level of trust for the Pakistani Army in the eyes of the West. The Army's part of the deal was to protect RAPE's lives and lifestyle from Army's 'other partners'.

Now the RAPE are crying foul, because Army is not doing its part of the bargain.

Moreover RAPE need language, lifestyle, and a facade for Pakistan as a modern state, e.g. as a protector of minority rights (read Christian rights), in order to provide the deliverables to Western audiences, and thus prolong the Western embrace of Pakistan. With this Aasia Bibi's case, and RAPE's own weakened standing, this proposition is looking more and more difficult.

With Salman Taseer's assassination, a man at the core of the RAPE socialite circle, in fact one of their main flag-bearers, and considered to be an influential and powerful RAPE, has been bumped off. And the Army, which was supposed to protect the lives of RAPEs, has not even put out a statement.

It's no wonder that the RAPE have started feeling betrayed by the whole Establishment (Army, Feudals, etc.) wondering whether there is anything to salvage in Pakistan for them.

Sooner or later, the division between the RAPE and the Establishment are going to spill over into the public arena. After the Hindus, the Christians, the Ahmediyas, and the Bengalis, Pakistan has now started dispossessing the RAPEs as well.

So in a sort of a way, another Partition is taking place before our eyes - the Partition of RAPE from Pakistan. It is to be seen what impact it has on Western embrace of Pakistan.
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