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Pratyush wrote: 21 Aug 2023 21:11 Chetak, you have misunderstood what Pawar is saying.

Fadnavis, had the mandate of 2019. He was betrayed by Uddhav.

Modi, doesn't have any Uddhav to betray him. Therefore, Pawar is accepting that Modi will come back.

OK Pratyush ji, I see your point

but wasn't it he who pushed UBT to regicide.....his hand was never hidden because that is how he has operated all along......

when one aims for the king, it is best to take his head (politically speaking), which they didn't, and also, they did not foresee the decapitating cyclone (that could and did) hit them later and both have paid the price for their folly

Like any frontline general, DF tactically retreated, took time to regroup, probed for weakness, and the result is there for all to see, especially the heavy hand from dilli

and, somewhere from his perch on high, ABA must be smiling: "the boys played well"
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The dotty gang haven't really understood their challenges, the sheer enormity of the peaks they must scale, to even come within striking distance of their objective

one that is eluding him is "the order of the hilsa" from the beedis


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Chetakji onions are out in force again.

The centre has raised the export tax for onions by 40% in a bid to tamp down price rises ahead of elections. Onions are a long lasting root vegetable so some farmers had stocked up on these in expectation of coming high prices. The new tax has put them in a fix.

The farmers are now on strike at the behest of Pawar and congress and BT. The main market for onions in Nasik is closed for buying and selling so no onions can enter Mumbai and other cities. Now lets see Who blinks first: the Punjab capitulation has emboldened everyone.

This is after recent reports where a lot of farmers became literal crorepatis after they made a killing selling tomatoes when the prices had shot up.
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Tanaji wrote: 22 Aug 2023 00:17 Chetakji onions are out in force again.

The centre has raised the export tax for onions by 40% in a bid to tamp down price rises ahead of elections. Onions are a long lasting root vegetable so some farmers had stocked up on these in expectation of coming high prices. The new tax has put them in a fix.

The farmers are now on strike at the behest of Pawar and congress and BT. The main market for onions in Nasik is closed for buying and selling so no onions can enter Mumbai and other cities. Now lets see Who blinks first: the Punjab capitulation has emboldened everyone.

This is after recent reports where a lot of farmers became literal crorepatis after they made a killing selling tomatoes when the prices had shot up.





Tanaji saar,

elections in India are won and lost on the price of tomatoes, onions, and potatos.

No one gives a jack about 10 years of hard work by the govt because peace in most middle class households is dictated by the prices of tomatoes, onions, and potatos

but this time the equations are skewed in favor of the center. After the artificially propped up high prices of tomatoes, ostensibly due to the vagaries of the weather, but, in reality, mainly due to the rapacious middlemen created ghotala, middlemen who are protected by politicos, the consumer will not tolerate high prices because some middleman joker wants to export

The govt is holding a huge stock of onions which it will selectively release to cool prices if they rise

at this time, the cards are with the govt.

but the politicos will create a mess just to attack the govt and just like you said, the onions are desperate to show the central govt in a bad light

The Govt has increased the onion buffer from 300,000 MT to 500,000 MT.

@Nccf_India will begin selling onions at a retail price of ₹25/kg starting today.

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France also awarded "Grand Chevalier de la Legion d'Honneur" - its highest civilian award to Shri Narendra Modi.
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I know this is a lament - but have to get it off my chest - India is full of contradictions - on one side we send moon landers and on the other side we still resort of hoarding of vegetables and price manipulation - when will we move past such lowly vegetable price manipulations that affect the common man! If we want to be a developed country - the common man should be able to live his life without worrying about such mundane things :x and that seems at least 50 years away!

and goddamn it - why cant people cook without onions if they are expensive!! my family still uses onions only like 1-2 times a week!!
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WW3 will be about food (and biological weapon and their antidote, in that sense covid was the opening shot). In their infinite wisdom, US and Europe have made agriculture a criminal enterprise (carbon tax anyone). Ukraine, another food basket is gone. Russia, India China are in the cross hair. At least chinese believe this is the case and they are hoarding 50% of all worlds agriculture hoards (if that is the word). Even India has authorized 60,000 grain storages this year.
USSR broke because they had everything else apart from food.
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Cyrano wrote: 22 Aug 2023 01:11 France also awarded "Grand Chevalier de la Legion d'Honneur" - its highest civilian award to Shri Narendra Modi.




not good enough, Cyrano ji.


we are still holding out for the "the order of the hilsa" from the beedis
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fanne wrote: 22 Aug 2023 01:57 WW3 will be about food (and biological weapon and their antidote, in that sense covid was the opening shot). In their infinite wisdom, US and Europe have made agriculture a criminal enterprise (carbon tax anyone). Ukraine, another food basket is gone. Russia, India China are in the cross hair. At least chinese believe this is the case and they are hoarding 50% of all worlds agriculture hoards (if that is the word). Even India has authorized 60,000 grain storages this year.
USSR broke because they had everything else apart from food.


fanne ji,

Almost all of ukr's food growing capacity is now foreign owned

the amriki giants like cargill etc are very heavily invested in ukr grain production and they now own most of the produced grains

when the turks block "ukr" grain shipments every now and then, it's these amriki companies that they are squeezing. Soon there will be a backlash that will singe the turks quite badly
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V_Raman wrote: 22 Aug 2023 01:16 I know this is a lament - but have to get it off my chest - India is full of contradictions - on one side we send moon landers and on the other side we still resort of hoarding of vegetables and price manipulation - when will we move past such lowly vegetable price manipulations that affect the common man! If we want to be a developed country - the common man should be able to live his life without worrying about such mundane things :x and that seems at least 50 years away!

and goddamn it - why cant people cook without onions if they are expensive!! my family still uses onions only like 1-2 times a week!!
When food ceases to be a political weapon then it won't matter.
Mrs Indira Gandhi weaponized onions in the 1980 election and rode to power by getting them hoarded in Delhi and the media was willfully obliged reporting the onion price rise.
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There was a hit piece citing unnamed sources in Niti Aayog. That Adani had asked for a repeal of Essential commodities act in 2018. The farm laws of 2020 were a response to that request from Adani.

The gist of the report was that Adani wanted to hord agricultural commodities and that the named act was hinderance to it's ambitious.

Taking a cue from this report. The great journalist Rubbish Kumar also jumped on the bash Adani bandwagon.
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Looks like Darbaris and BIF's and their Masters have concluded that he best way to beat NaMo and BJP is to use the very same weapons he used on them in the runup to 2014:
Inflation
Onions
Tomatoes
Security(though less with almost nil Jihadi influx yet trying desperate with the homegrown versions vis naxal/khalistani/northwest etc etc)
Crony capitalism (read Hum do Hamare do, Anti Adani will intensify what with Rubbish kumar's crap article on farms laws, port project in TN etc)
CAG
Corruption (desperate with pin the donkey game but traction in media)
Chinese ingress( all forgotten about Hindi Chini bullshit/1962/Aksai Chin/nothing grows there statement/MOU yada yada)
Democracy under threat( and to hell with Emergency)
Minority(and forgiven about Nasbandhi)
BBC docu ban( and forget Kissa kursi ka, Kishore Kumar etc)
Hope when the time comes BJP has good response
There is a pattern here and I hope the Quartet re aware of the danger posed by these antics given the fickle minded public
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Pratyush wrote: 22 Aug 2023 11:08 There was a hit piece citing unnamed sources in Niti Aayog. That Adani had asked for a repeal of Essential commodities act in 2018. The farm laws of 2020 were a response to that request from Adani.

The gist of the report was that Adani wanted to hord agricultural commodities and that the named act was hinderance to it's ambitious.

Taking a cue from this report. The great journalist Rubbish Kumar also jumped on the bash Adani bandwagon.


Pratyush ji,

there are urban naxals, both in the niti aayog, as well as, the CAG

the congi deep state is still able to push through their agenda using these sleeper cells
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Sachin wrote: 14 Aug 2023 20:12 This case has more issues which are not clearly exposed.
1. CMRL was the company who was charged for violating tax norms. The Interim Board for Settlement under the Central Board of Taxes had found serious discrepancies in the financial statement of CMRL. So they had to give a statement explaining the various financial transactions, for which they had avoided paying taxes. CMRL had come up with an appeal, which was overruled any ways. So CMRL will now have to pay the penalty. On this point, there is nothing against the politicians.
2. The politicians are in trouble, because a lot of financial transactions for which records were not maintained were payments made to politicians (the commies and Congress included), police and revenue officials. The company had maintained a diary with some code words/initials of people to which payments were made. The CFO admitted that these were payoffs. He also let the names of the people out. Since all "secular" politicians are involved, there is no political uproar on this payoff.
3. The Chief Minister has taken this to another level. His daughter runs a dubious consulting company in Bangalore (Exalogic). CMRL is said to have got into an AMC with this company for software provisioning, upgrades etc. The company officials have not been able to confirm what services of this nature was given by this Exalogic to CMRL. CMRL has software tools such as Tally etc which Exalogic has no clue on. So this AMC was just to show the pay off as an expense (for which there were no services provided).

What ideally should be done is to investigate Exalogic and its financial statements to check if this is a shell company, used by the KL comrades for money laundering or storing ill-gotten wealth.
Belated thanks for the clear explanation. In one of my earlier companies, I was tasked to vet contracting companies on several parameters and exalogic cropped up. I did not recommend exalogic (I did not know then that it is a front for money laundering), because I could not put a button on their reporting structure (or who is the authority to make the decisions) and was unimpressed with their presentations because I thought they recirculated some. I felt that I was taken through a dog-and-pony show.

So yes, as you point out, Exalogic needs to be investigated. It is indeed a "front company".
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Chetak'ji. Thx for the link. Above is a keeper.
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https://twitter.com/ssaratht/status/1694078388179251301

When are we taking care of these folks
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This Bibek Debroy has come up with two self goals. He is an economic policy advisor.
Yet he wrote an op-ed saying a new Constituion is needed!
Next he wrote another oped to have a one GST rate of 17%. Many commdities have less than that and a few much higher than that.

Net result will be the most common consumption items will be taxed higher.

One more bokwas he should be transferred to Margadursuck Mandal.
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the sc had given a direction some time back that sanjay mishra's tenure as ED head would not continue beyond 15 sept, which gave a lot of orgasmic feels to the corrupt. This latest move should prompt the opposition to take out a desh-wide dharna

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/ch ... r-AA1fDWLM
The Centre is considering creating a new post of Chief Investigation Officer of India (CIO) on the lines of Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) and the National Security Advisor (NSA).

As per discussions at the highest level, the chiefs of the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and the Enforcement Directorate (ED) will report to the CIO, just like the three services report to the CDS and the two intelligence agencies to the NSA.

According to sources, the new post will be in the rank of Secretary to the Government of India. They said the outgoing ED chief, Sanjay Kumar Mishra, could be appointed as the first CIO.


Mishra was recently allowed by the Supreme Court to continue as ED chief till September 15. The SC had termed as illegal the two extensions of one year each given to him by the Union government after his retirement.

It, however, allowed him to continue till September 15 in “larger public and national interest” as the central government requested his continuance due to the ongoing review of the Financial Action Task Force in which some neighbouring countries wanted India to be put in the “grey list”.

The apex court gave its ruling while hearing a petition against the Centre’s move to give a third one-year extension to the ED chief.

Sources said the post of CIO may be created before Mishra demits office on September 15. They said that the ED will continue to function under the Department of Revenue of the Union Ministry of Finance and the CBI under the Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and Pensions.

The operational supervision of the two agencies would, however, be transferred to the CIO, who, in turn, is likely to report to the Prime Minister’s Office.
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https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/lok ... 2023-08-24

Mood of the Nation (#MOTN) poll by India Today-CVoter gives BJP 287 seats, Congress 74 in LS 2024.

NDA gets 306, INDIA 193.
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As year approaches December these polls will start to project Congi and Pappu in more positive ways and try and sway the voters
Sorass gang have already predicted that they will be going ahead with more hit jobs
WaPo and the ilks will do more hit jobs
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Modi needs to do two things:
1. Ban pre-election polls (they are being used to manipulate thinking of voters). No such poll should be allowed from six months before the elections
2. Start counting the print slips of each vote from EVM to verify the final results
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How can you ban Pre poll in free democratic country ?

That will be overturned in SC.

Why do you think just pre polls can get Modi out of power ? BJP/NDA/Modi need to communicate with Indians about their success, be open for feedback on failures or improvements, need to let people know about their vision with details and specifics -- categorizing whats already done and achieved, whats in progress and what more can be done in future.

Publish & propagate data, hold conversations, let nationalistic media do its job, use social media & all india radio, capitalize on gaffe's of idiots like Kejriwal, Mani Shankar Aiyar, Digvijay Singh (hope he too comes back in limelight to indirectly help nationalist cause), RG.

A govt which has truly done wonders for the country should invest 100% in spreading right information through all means and at the same time smashing in public without any shame or hesitation all fake/wrong information.
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sanjayc wrote: 25 Aug 2023 08:32 Modi needs to do two things:
1. Ban pre-election polls (they are being used to manipulate thinking of voters). No such poll should be allowed from six months before the elections
2. Start counting the print slips of each vote from EVM to verify the final results
When we have an opposition that is blind with hatred and shows no interest in the country's development but whose sole aim is to subvert democracy to grab power and continue to merrily loot the country, there is no need to stick to principles that aren't respected by both sides.

Its not so much the polls that subvert voters but the omnipresent party-media nexus that continues this Neo-colinial brown-sahib exploitation. Its time the BJP and the parivar junk their archaic puritanism and invest in owning media channels of all sorts and counter this narrative at national and international level. Lot of hindu mujahids are doing what they can on SM but BJP has to own responsibly for its future.
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The real issue is Rahul Gandhi and his holier than thou politics.

He thinks that his hate is good politics. When that hate is combined with Congress and Congress ecosystem. Things get really ugly.

Sonia for all her mafia behaviour was a manageable quantity.

Rahul can be ignored. But more you ignore more virulent his hate tends to get.

I am some one who is generally opposed to passion in politics. But Rahul is some one who needs to be removed from the scene.

TMC for all the vitriol of the gruesome twosome of Derick O'Brien and Mohua Moitra. Is a still practitioner of political powers. In it that they can be reasoned with.

Congress under Rahul Gandhi will be destroyed. But can't be reasoned with.
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Pappu's antics and amplified by lefty media at home and abroad unquestioningly. Thats why he keeps doing them. Most well meaning people have been fed for too long (at least 3 generations) that politics is dirty, India is dirty, Gandhi name to be revered, dil pe mat le "haath" ko vote de type trope wrapped in secular language by this same media generation after generation while carefully preserving an impartial "speaking truth to power" image for itself while its anything but. Thats why my post above.

The media & Pappu clan are in a symbiotic parasitic relationship for mutual survival and feed on the nation.
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What I am worried is BJP showing total disregard on oil prices. It seems without any tax breaks, Oil companies can reduce the price by 10-11 prices and make profit. But they are not putting any pressure on these companies.
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HINDENBERG 2.0 is being planned in a big way against many Indian companies by European organization mostly funded by Soros

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 68703.html
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/hind ... -103038446
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vijayk wrote: 25 Aug 2023 18:33 HINDENBERG 2.0 is being planned in a big way against many Indian companies by European organization mostly funded by Soros

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 68703.html
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/hind ... -103038446
Once SEBI submits it's report against Adani by the end of the month. If SEBI doesn't find and wrongdoing by Adani. Then such actions from external entities will not make any difference to the Indian entities.
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Pratyush wrote: 25 Aug 2023 19:31
vijayk wrote: 25 Aug 2023 18:33 HINDENBERG 2.0 is being planned in a big way against many Indian companies by European organization mostly funded by Soros

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 68703.html
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/hind ... -103038446
Once SEBI submits it's report against Adani by the end of the month. If SEBI doesn't find and wrongdoing by Adani. Then such actions from external entities will not make any difference to the Indian entities.
They just filed the report
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/ada ... 33489.html

While the SEBI filing did not outline its findings, the regulatory body said it would “take appropriate action based on outcome of the investigations". According to a Reuters report quoting the document, SEBI is investigating 24 transactions involving the Adani group's listed companies. Of these, findings in 22 were now final in nature. The court filing also outlined the steps taken by SEBI during the probe – including on related party transactions.
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I hope SEBI figured out who shorted the stock last time and take action against them to deter same repeat of action
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vijayk wrote: 25 Aug 2023 20:36 I hope SEBI figured out who shorted the stock last time and take action against them to deter same repeat of action
SEBI, has always known who shorted the stock. Given the electronic nature of all transactions on the stock market.

The more important question is what are the regulatory mechanisms, if any. Are available to prevent a repeat of same.
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^^^ BSE computer systems were installed by P. Chidambaram - Thus the money trail shall lead to him or the Congress proxies?
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https://www.occrp.org/en/aboutus/who-supports-our-work
Rockefeller Brothers Fund
Ford Foundation
Open Society Foundations
UK Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office
U.S. Department of State
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Denmark
Ministry for Europe and Foreign Affairs of France
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https://www.deccanherald.com/india/maha ... ft-2662774
Just like this a spate of Dalit attacks in BJP rules states highlighted
So this is the next line of attack
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https://theprint.in/ground-reports/cast ... e/1733112/
Yet this sort caste segregation and identification in TN conveniently brushed under the carpet as it in an allied secular state
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PAPPU and his gang have intensified direct contacts with western agencies and destructive terrorist forces.
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Rsatchi wrote:Just like this a spate of Dalit attacks in BJP rules states highlighted
Yes. The story line is now steadily being built up. Here is one more from UP.
In UP village where boy was beaten in class, pressure mounts on family to ‘compromise’
'Jitne bhi Mohammedan bachche hai...': UP teacher makes kids beat fellow student
Uttar Pradesh teacher urges students to beat Muslim child in viral video, says ‘jitne bhi Mohammedan bachhe hai..’

And who comes as the saviour? None other than Rakesh 'Dakait' :roll:.

I am sure that many more incidents like these would also be stage managed.
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https://twitter.com/TimesAlgebraIND/sta ... 5916582338

Chief Justice of India DY Chandrachud : "Article 35A of the Indian Constitution that was scrapped in 2019, ‘took away fundamental rights".

Supreme Court is hearing the legality of Article 370 abrogation on daily basis. Kapil Sibal says Article 370 can never be abrogated, he even argued Brexit like referendum in Kashmir.
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