India-US News and Discussion

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 06 Nov 2009 08:11

^ am just waiting for the release of tapes of the animated conversation and instructions the shooter got from his ISI/PA bosom pals over a made-in-cheena sat-fone.....

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Nov 2009 08:16

The investigation report may be classified just like the xx pages of 911 report. The speculation is all pages are related to land of pure.

Rony · Post by **Rony** » 06 Nov 2009 09:27

http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.ar ... PUB950.pdf

India's Strategic Defense Transformation : Expanding Global Relationships

by Lieutenant Colonel Brian K. Hedrick, U.S.Army
Military Advisor to the Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asia at the State Department.

Umrao Das · Post by **Umrao Das** » 06 Nov 2009 09:34

Mort ji>> Most people join armed forces because they along with other benefits get student loand waivers. Medical school being expensive.

In this cse though he might have enlisted before becoming MD. MSNBC says he attended US army medical school, something like AFMSC in Pune.

Shardula ji that was Manore Ijaz the buddy of ex CIA chief and the owner of crescent investments.

Mansoor Ijaz (born in 1961) is a prominent businessman of Pakistani ancestry, a financier, and a media commentator on terrorism, mostly in relation to Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan.[1] He is the founder and chairman of Crescent Investment Management LLC, a New York investment partnership since 1990 that includes James Alan Abrahamson, former director of President Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative.

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1 Life
2 Media commentator
3 International negotiator
4 Statements Regarding bin Laden
5 References
6 External links

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Mansoor Ijaz was born in Tallahassee, Florida and grew up on a farm in rural Virginia.[2] Ijaz received his bachelor's degree in nuclear Physics from the University of Virginia in 1983 and M.S degree in mechanical engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1985, where he was trained as a neural sciences engineer.

Ijaz developed CARAT, a currency, interest rate and equity risk management system. He started his own investment firm in 1990. Away from Crescent's daily business affairs, Ijaz serves on the College Foundation Board of Trustees at the University of Virginia and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

http://www.gogomag.com/cgi-bin/tvheads_ ... ijaz_large

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Crescent Investment Management LLC was founded and chaired by Mansoor Ijaz in 1991. Crescent Investment Management, "a New York investment [is] partnership between Ijaz, Lt. Gen. James Alan Abrahamson (USAF Ret), former director of President Ronald Reagan's Strategic Defense Initiative, and Turkey's Global Group. Former CIA Director R. James Woolsey, Jr. serves as vice chairman of Crescent's Board of Governors.

"Crescent specializes in the use of quantitative modeling techniques to manage investment portfolios. Crescent's MENARA family of funds, currently in formation, will focus on five strategic investment sectors: high technology, telecommunications, oil and gas investments, real estate acquisitions and infrastructure development. The firm is headquartered in New York with partner offices in London and Ankara."

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 06 Nov 2009 12:30

http://www.statesman.com/ap/mediahub/me ... tId=198875

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 06 Nov 2009 16:18

Dreadful.My deepest sympathies to the families of those killed and wounded.It is so tragic for the US that the criminal policies of the Bush-Cheneyite mob has led to such anti-Americanism globally,especially in the Islamic world.Bad enough is the stalemate in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process,where the prospects look bleak in an unresolved conflict which has given birth to so many extermists,than to have in addition two Muslim countries where the US is waging war further inspiring extremist thought and swelling the ranks of the ungodly.One a totally illegal invasion and war in Iraq which produced some of the the worst war crimes since WW2 and the other In the Afghan badlands,where US drone strikes often kill more innocents than Taliban or Al Q cadre.To the ordinary man on the Islamic world "street",it appears that a 21st century "crusade"-the very word used by Dubya Bush,has been unleashed by Uncle sam and the Christian west against Islamic nations.The world's media simply sandbag the viwer with this apparently unending war,which has gone on for much longer than even WW2! The psyche of the Muslim mind,bombarded relentlessly with images of the ceaseless carnage often cracks up as appears to be the case of the Fort Hood killer.The call to the faithful to take up arms by Osama Bin Laden and Al Q, has been heard loud and clear across the globe and many of thefaithful are doing just that.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/no ... alik-hasan

12 killed, 31 wounded in gun rampage at Fort Hood army base• Shootings suspect named as Major Nidal Malik Hasan
• Barack Obama calls attack 'horrific outburst of violence'

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 06 Nov 2009 19:40

[youtube]zlW4O3zOA4E&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 06 Nov 2009 19:59

suicide bombings post ..is insalafimanhaj.com. ..copy here

Also excuses from ABC News: (From his cousin - who says "his mom is my mom" (Isn't there something Paki in that?)
Nadal Malik Hasan, Suspected Fort Hood Shooter, Was Called "Camel Jockey"

And tidbits:

At least six months ago, Hasan came to the attention of law enforcement officials because of Internet postings about suicide bombings and other threats,
Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington, often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong Muslim.

Yet according to NY times story he listed (in his Military records ) “no religious preference” ... He was born in US yet he listed as "born in Palestine" according to one report...

And yes, he was looking for a wife... from the matchmaking ads frequented mainly by the land of pure.. according to Imam.

Kailash · Post by **Kailash** » 06 Nov 2009 22:41

US refuses to take ISRO and DRDO off Black list: Strategic relationship under strain

...
Another sticking point is that despite several reminders US has refused to alter its entities list, or the black list that bans trade in sensitive technology for some Indian companies, including a dozen key government companies like Indian Space Research Organisation and Defence. This is despite the fact that the matter has been raised several times with the US as India is in dubious company of countries like North Korea, Pakistan and China that have a past track record of proliferation.

Then why India, is it a pressure tactic because all it is required is for the US President to issue an order to the US Department of Commerce which can remove these companies off the list. While the Prime Minister may be feeling good about getting to dine with Obama at his first state dinner, for the moment the strategic dimension of the relationship is on the backburner and for now it has become a relationship under tremendous strain.
...

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 06 Nov 2009 23:25

Nidal Hasan: Ft. Hood Shooter Participated in Homeland Security Disaster Preparation

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 06 Nov 2009 23:42

Mass Shooting in Florida

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/orlando.of ... 96477.html

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 06 Nov 2009 23:53

How soon before it is known florida shooter is a recent convert?

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 06 Nov 2009 23:59

^^^^
Orlando office building locked down after shooting

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 07 Nov 2009 00:14

The base commander at Ft. Hood says Says Hasan Shouted "Allahu Akbar" Before Shooting.

added: Muslim groups fear backlash

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Nov 2009 00:29

CAIR already issued a pre-emptive statement yesterday.

See my post above.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 07 Nov 2009 00:52

In the midst we should not forget that there are alleged claims that he was harassed because of his religion. This could have pushed him over the cliff.

BTW, anybody see Jon Stewart "mincemeat" Glen Beck

It was hilarious & sad.

Added: For Jon Stewart fans, here it is Linky

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 07 Nov 2009 01:18

^^^ Saw that and it was funny!!! (BTW any one noticed, just below Acorns there was a Feynman Diagram on the boar- chalk board that had the human anatomy scrawled on it alongside Che, acorns and the Russian flag...?)

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 07 Nov 2009 01:48

Muslim image campaigns suffer after Fort Hood shootings
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... igns_N.htm

By Haya El Nasser, USA TODAY
The tragic shootings at Fort Hood, Texas, allegedly by an Arab-American Army psychiatrist, may deal a severe blow to image campaigns launched by Arab and Muslim groups after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
"One incident like this can just completely erase five years of building up confidence in the mainstream American community that we're no different," says Ray Hanania, one of the founders of the Association of Patriotic Arab Americans in Military. "It's always a setback when there is an act of violence."

Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the suspect in the Fort Hood shootings that left 13 people dead and 30 wounded, was born in Virginia to Arab immigrant parents and is a Muslim.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the largest Muslim civil liberties and advocacy organization, is urging religious institutions to beef up security in the aftermath of the Texas shootings.

The organization has already received hate calls and hate e-mails, says Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director. Muslims in Killeen, Texas, near Fort Hood, contacted him because they fear a backlash.

"The Muslim-bashers and Islamaphobes come out of the woodwork," Hooper says. I've taken a handful of calls personally," he says. "It's '(expletive) Islam' and 'Go back where you came from' types of calls. … I hate to say it, but it's almost routine now."

CAIR was a leader of educational campaigns to quell anti-Muslim sentiment after the Sept. 11 attacks. All the terrorists involved were Arabs and Muslims.

The organization created a Muslim Community Safety Kit that includes advice on developing a good relationship with law enforcement and forming a list of lawyers to handle backlash incidents.

"We're asking for calm and unity," Hooper says. "In this time of crisis, we really need to come together as a nation and not listen to voices that try to pit one community against another."

Hanania hosts Radio Chicagoland, a five day-a-week talk radio show aimed at Arab Americans. The Fort Hood shootings dominated the show Friday morning.

"A couple of callers said, 'You need to stop being an Arab,' " Hanania says. "Wait a minute. What this guy did has nothing to do with being an Arab. Part of the problem is our fault. We need to tell Americans who we really are."

Hanania is an Army veteran who served during the Vietnam War. His brother was a Marine. His father and uncle served during World War II.

Army statistics show that as of April 2008, there were 1,563 active-duty soldiers who identified themselves as Muslims and 436 Army National Guard members and 581 Army reservists.

Hanania said he knows of no statistics that track harassment cases against Arabs or Muslims in the military.

"There is always harassment," Hanania says. "It's just part of our society. … It takes a lot of courage to be an Arab-American and a Muslim in this country."

Not all Arabs are Muslim and not all Muslims are Arabs. Hanania, for instance, is Christian.

"Thousands of Arab Americans and American Muslims serve honorably every day in all four branches of the U.S. military and in the National Guard," says James Zogby, founder and president of the Arab American Institute.

John Abizaid, of Lebanese descent, is a retired four-star general and onetime head of the U.S. Central Command. Navy SEAL Petty Officer Michael Monsoor, also an Arab American, was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor posthumously last year for heroism in Iraq.

Eric Rahman, a captain in the U.S. Army Reserve, is Iraqi American. He served in Iraq twice this decade.

He enlisted after the first Gulf War and says attitudes toward Arabs and Muslims were worse then because the military was not as sensitive as it is now to cultural diversity. That changed after 9/11, when the government launched a massive effort "to educate, understand and learn," Rahman says. "You can't walk the streets of Iraq and not understand the cultural mores and values."

He says he has not personally encountered harassment in the military but admits that some people may not know he is Arab.

"I don't have a discernible accent. I don't have facial hair. I look just like an Italian or Greek or anyone else with dark eyes," says Rahman, who splits his time between Louisville and Tampa, where he is stationed. "Sometimes, if someone uses a derogatory term, I'll take them aside and let them know it's inappropriate. … If the subject comes out, I'm happy and proud to tell them both of my parents were born in Iraq."

Rahman expects that military commanders in coming days will remind servicemembers that the Fort Hood shootings are "an isolated event that shouldn't reflect on the service of Arab Americans and Muslims."

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 07 Nov 2009 01:57

Texas base shooter praised
2009-11-06 22:14
http://www.news24.com/Content/World/New ... er_praised

Nicosia - A video has praised the Muslim officer who shot dead 13 people and wounded 30 others in a shooting spree at a US Army base, saying he had "put terror and chaos in the ranks of the enemy," the SITE Intelligence Group said on Friday.

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who was due to be sent to Iraq, "did not accept dying in the war on his Muslim brothers; instead, he wanted to die fighting the enemies of Allah, the infidels who are fighting this Islamic Ummah (community of the faithful)", the unsigned video said.

"So we give congratulations to the Ummah for their jihadist operation executed by the brother Nidal Malik Hasan on the American base where he was working as a psychiatrist and recently (received orders to go Iraq), and he seemed upset and did not want to participate in this war, and he did not want to be among the ranks of infidels against his Muslim brothers."

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Nov 2009 01:58

Lot of confusion in above report. The core issue was the individual did not want to serve in his deployment area and was fullfilling his jihadi injunctions. Its not about ethnicity(Arabic etc) but subscribing to extreme religious persuasion (Islamism).

And CAIR is usual suspect to claim victimhood to detract from the crime at hand.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 07 Nov 2009 02:09

All reports/rumors together is becoming a big confusion.

(1) He is Jordania/Pakistan/Some other Arab decent is not confirmed. Everything is hearsay based news reports ( CNN/MSNBC or FOX all are same in this).
(2) He is deputed to Iraq from some sources and he is deputed to Afghanistan from some other sources.
(3) is he a pios Muslim? He definitely attended silver spring Mosque ( Built by expat Pakis ?). A very large expat pak population is in DC area.
(4) Did he commit the crime with jehadi intentions? May be yes as per commanders/generals interviews. The Lawyers will rigourously try to prove that he did it becasue he is mentally sick.

There may be a very big Pak behind this all and is the information is hidden from public because that may look like the 20 classified pages of 911 report.

Muns · Post by **Muns** » 07 Nov 2009 02:17

Anderson Cooper Peaceful preaching inside, violent message outside a New York mosque CNN :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNuANsSDiOU

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 07 Nov 2009 02:21

"one of the worst mass shootings ever to take place on an American military base."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/tex ... index.html

cleaned out his apartment the morning of the shooting,..gave them copies of the Quran hours before.. witnesses have reported that the gunman yelled "Allahu akbar" ..

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 07 Nov 2009 03:21

From Washington post: and other tidbits:
bio of Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan s:

39 years old.
U.S. Army psychiatrist.
1997 graduate of Virginia Tech University.
Received doctorate in psychiatry from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md.
From 2003 through this summer, was an intern, a resident and then a fellow at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington D.C.
Army records show his last address in the 11300 block of Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, Md.
Commissioned as a captain, he was promoted to major in May.
He was single and had no children, and he showed no sign of physical or mental problems in examinations as recent as September.
He was listed by the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress as a fellow for disaster and preventive psychology.
As of Oct. 13, he had less than a year of clinical practice.
He attended the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring, Md., and was devout, according to Faizul Khan, former imam at the center. He attended prayers at least once a day, seven days a week, often in his Army fatigues,

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Nov 2009 03:26

every few months there is a mass shooting on a 'US Campus/mall/public place' for all kinds of grievances. this is just another one... nothing to see, just move on folks

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 07 Nov 2009 06:56

Ralph Peter on Fox
"I am ready to Puke. PC be damned President need to do the right thing as its a act of Islamist terrorism Etc" . Lets hope USA stop pandering to the Islamist tantrums and see the light .

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 07 Nov 2009 07:03

Amber G. wrote:From Washington post: and other tidbits:
bio of Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan s:
He was single and had no children, and he showed no sign of physical or mental problems in examinations as recent as September.

Per reports, he had registered through some mosque he was attending; in a matrimonial match making list. His preference for the bride was to be from
i) Middle east
ii) Indo-pak

iii) Amrikhan
iv) Spanish origin
in that order.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 07 Nov 2009 12:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb_gVt4S1Jw

Check at 2-21 min on India

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 08 Nov 2009 07:34

SaiK wrote:
"one of the worst mass shootings ever to take place on an American military base."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/06/tex ... index.html

What is clear is that he volunteered to join the army, there is no draft here. The US army paid for his medical school, something that takes more than $100,000 to complete. Then, when it came to payback called deployment, he said that he could not side with the Kaafir against his Muslim brothers. He chose to shoot and kill unarmed people that he swore to help, shouting Allah is great. I call this being a Naamak Haram. And where would they have posted him, an MD? in the rear far from the danger zone helping soldiers.
This is from CBSnews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlW4O3zO ... re=popular
Gautam

vavinash · Post by **vavinash** » 08 Nov 2009 08:06

MEd school costs more like 300-400K. This is how the pure show gratitude.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 08 Nov 2009 08:12

Acharya wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb_gVt4S1Jw

Check at 2-21 min on India

Forked tongue. On one side they want to us to give away large swathes of territory and keep rattling about Hindu terror, on the other they want us to fight their battle for them

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 08 Nov 2009 22:18

Jarita,

The purpose of the book sponsored by those two authors is to change US policy. it may not fall into everything that is entirely desirable, but attempting for the change should be applauded. On the civilian side, many policy makers follow through the various institutes at the Ivy League universities which indoctrinates US policy toward India. As they pass through such places, they get on via personal contacts into lower level government positions or as congressional aides, and then later into higher positions of actually implementing policy. On the military side, what affects India-US relations is what is actually the doctrine taught at the key military institutes like Westpoint, Annapolis and USAF Air Force Academy.

What is interesting, is that George W. Bush administration was brash and attempted to bring in people who would disrupt the US foreign policy ideology in its entirety. Partly for corporate greed and partly because of a different outlook from the mentioned institutions which were regarded as stagnant. I think the end result is that India benefited, but other issues like preemptive war, the suspension of Habeas Corpus was not necessarily good. Those individuals already in government, military & civilian, were upset. The Obama administration, with their plate full of economic woes, has gone back to the traditional institutes and individuals for guidance and we now have India haters like Bruce Riedel, who is in his 50s, that can stay long enough to damage India-US relations.

From India's point of view, what we can hope is that US unemployment rate stays above 11% until November 2012 and Obama can be defeated by a Republican who has disdain of these Ivy League policy makers and put the George W. Bush India policy back on track.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 09 Nov 2009 03:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNVO6qESbA4

Chris Matthews (Hardball) interview
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Oxford and traveling in Europe where Barack Obama could be elected in a landslide. I suspect that this fascination with Obama is true in many parts of the world. In fact, as I have said before, it is difficult to think of any single act that would do more to restore America's soft power than the election of Obama to the presidency.

Soft power is the ability to obtain the outcomes one wants through attraction rather than using the carrots and sticks of payment or coercion. As I describe in my new book The Powers to Lead, in individuals soft power rests on the skills of emotional intelligence, vision, and communication that Obama possesses in abundance. In nations, it rests upon culture (where it is attractive to others), values (when they are applied without hypocrisy), and policies (when they are inclusive and seen as legitimate in the eyes of others.)

Polls show that American soft power has declined quite dramatically in much of the world over the past eight years. Some say this is structural, and resentment is the price we pay for being the biggest kid on the block. But it matters greatly whether the big kid is seen as a friend or a bully. In much of the world we have been seen as a bully as a result of the Bush Administration policies.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 09 Nov 2009 06:39

Should not be too much of a surprise...
Hasan went to mosque of 9/11 hijackers

WASHINGTON — The alleged Fort Hood shooter apparently attended the same Virginia mosque as two Sept. 11 hijackers in 2001, at a time when a radical imam preached there.

csharma · Post by **csharma** » 09 Nov 2009 14:28

KS on the upcoming Indo US summit. Seems to be all about China.

http://www.maritimeindia.org/pdfs/ks08nov.pdf

Washington Summit

Already there is a widely
prevalent perception that Japan, South Korea and Australia are attempting to distance themselves from
the US in order to please China. The Chinese are further confident on the dependence of the US on
them and the yuan for keeping the dollar relatively stable and their continuing to buy US treasury
bonds. They talk of the G-2 managing the global financial system, even discuss getting the oil priced in
terms of a basket of currencies excluding the dollar and suggest sharing the Pacific Ocean with US as
two spheres of influence.

It is generally agreed that at the present rate of growth, China is likely to
overtake the US in terms of GDP in the next two to three decades. The present financial crisis has led to
a decline of US status as a power though it continues to be the pre-eminent power of the world. China is
the nearest challenger to the US. Though US may need the cooperation of China in sustaining the dollar
in the short term, it cannot afford to neglect the challenge of China as the non-democratic rising power.
This is another area of mutuality of interest between India and the US. In turn that calls for greater
cooperation between India and US in terms of defence, economic and R&D cooperation in several
fields. The US will need a strategic partner to sustain its position as the pre-eminent military ,economic
and technological power. Among various other powers, viz: European Union, Russia, Japan and India,
the last is a nation with comparable population to China, democratic and English-speaking and with a
young age profile. For the next two to three decades to come, while China, Russia and Japan will be
ageing India will have the advantage of a youth bulge. Therefore as the Clinton and Bush
administrations discovered - India is a natural partner for US.

From the Indian point of view, a world order in which the democratic,
pluralistic, English-speaking US with no conflict of interests with India, which welcomes Indian
immigrants remaining preeminent , is preferable - than one in which a non-democratic, Han-centric
China dominates. Nor can India afford to forget that China armed Pakistan with nuclear weapons and
missiles behind which WMD shield Islamabad has unleashed the campaign of terror both against India
and the US. While the 2005 summit was dominated by the nuclear issue, the forthcoming summit will
be dominated by the emerging world order in the wake of the financial crisis. There should be an
exploration of ways and means in which India can help the US. Among other areas, India can play a
role in manufacturing and supplying the US generic drugs at cheaper costs to bring down the costs of
Obama’s ambitious healthcare programme

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 09 Nov 2009 19:17

India should tell the O-Team that enough is enough.Stop at arming Pak to India's inevitable detriment and selling India "modern" arms as compensation is a sick joke,whereby the US makes billions out of our misery.The US wants an "effort" from India to mollycoddle Pak,accept its outrageous demands and drop our dhotis for kinky "Kashmiri" sex,so that Pak can get its rocks off and rape kashmir at our expense.That is simply unacceptable.The downfall and disintegration of the Paki state as an "Inevitability" must be rammed down the hosts throat.Nothing more should be said of the matter.The picking up of the pieces,especially the nuclear sex toys is the priority.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 09 Nov 2009 22:16

IF as (this) KS states that Indo-US talks will focus on China, then "China" has to include Pakistan.

For two reasons:
1) Clearly any such talks will mean that the US will be seen as stepping down - compromising based on circumstances, and
2) Pakistan is only going to cause more problems - even a "democratic" one. For, as long as there is "Pakistan" there will remain the issue of "Kashmir" AND a subliminal problem of converting the Indian subcontinent - it just cannot go away, impossible

For the US to actually SEE China as a problem, the US HAS to push Pakistan as a strategic asset into the background and actually control them for the US to ensure India to succeed. Pakistan as a drag on India has to be removed. Else India cannot be an efficient counter weight to China - a cost that the US too will have to bear.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Nov 2009 22:56

I think the guy got radicalised at the Virginia mosque. When I first heard of the issues, I wondered which mosque and which Imam was at the root?

Umrao Das · Post by **Umrao Das** » 09 Nov 2009 23:54

All these Imams got preferential visas during the 1980s, thanks Ronald Regan fighting the evil empire....
Luckily the US is blessed witha population that has Huge attention defict disorder in addition to financial defict disorder.
One should recall the number of dadiwallhas that used to go directly to INS officlas in down town detroit INS office..and would easily get visas to entire dearborn populations in one day while grand ma and grand pa or a IT guy from India would be treated like some piece of dirrt.

The corruption in INS prior to 911 was humongous... Imams were the most preferred candidates to get GC and citizen ship , Karma is biatch its all coming back to me now!!!

darshan · Post by **darshan** » 10 Nov 2009 09:43

http://digg.com/world_news/Nose_Piercin ... rom_School