Internal Security Watch

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 19 Sep 2010 23:03

Indian Police Reject Muslim Terror Angle

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 19 Sep 2010 23:21

I fear it could be more of a bigger ploy to get the attention away from the Ganesh Visarjans in Mumbai. Always known for being the prime target, I am afraid that the Delhi attacks could be classified as misdirection. Adding any more security than what is already present in Delhi, could lead it to cannibalize security from some other metro. As the attention moves to New Delhi, Mumbai could find itself in a situation once again.

Mumbai has been on high alert in any case due to a report on few infiltrators being at large. The bigger Ganesh idols are yet to be immersed.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 19 Sep 2010 23:52

I guess now the GOI and the party alliance behind it will be forced to go into a vicious cycle. They will have to deny any role of Indian Muslim groups or organizations or even deny any Islamic role at all in any of the future terror attacks. Instead they will blame it on the "saffron" and use the state machinery to target the "saffron". As Islamic attacks and strength increases, the GOI will panic more and more and desperately be busy more in preventing any "saffron" challenge to replace them politically and rely more and more politically on the IM and related left or other groupings.

However his also creates a problem in frustrating the Islamists for they do not get credit for what they are doing. To a certain extent the more seasoned among them will rejoice in the effect it has in fostering internecine conflict within the "hated quafir" but the this cannot go on for long. So they will after some time begin to claim more and more direct responsibility and trying to establish the linkage to their faith.

This creates even greater pressures on GOI to find the "saffron" guilty, and the cycle goes on till Islamists are able to achieve at least their partial territorial ambitions and after that the rump GOI an the parties behind it will blame the entire episode on the saffron - that saffron "provoked" the IM.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 20 Sep 2010 00:08

sum wrote:Our people are bleeding and you will too: IM

The Indian Mujahideen [ Images ] has claimed responsibility for the Jama Masjid shootout incident on Sunday, and issued a threat to the government not to hold the 2010 Commonwealth Games [ Images ] in Delhi [ Images ].

The mail, which was sent to a new channel by the IM, claims responsibility for the attack and says that this is in memory of the persons who lost their lives in the infamous Batla House encounter.

The mail sent from the id al.arbi999123 @ gmail.com says don't show courage in organising the CWG.

'We know the preparations are on in full swing. Be prepared, we are preparing a shocking event and those participating in the games will hold themselves responsible for the consequences.'

The mail also goes on term Atif Amin and Mohammed Sajid as martyrs.

'The death of these two boys in the Batla house encounter will be avenged.'

The mail also refers to the Mumbai [ Images ] Anti-Terrorist Squad, which has been carrying out arrests of it cadres.

'Innocent Muslim youth are being arrested and this is not right.'

It also speaks about the use of excessive force in Kashmir [ Images ] and states that 'our people are bleeding and you will too'.

The mail calls on all Muslims to revolt and protest the happenings in Kashmir.

Indian intelligence agencies say that it appears that a local module of the IM could have sent out this mail.

At first it appeared as though a relatively new group had carried out this attack.

Eyewitness accounts speak of automatic weapons being used and this indicates that the men who opened fire were trained thoroughly.

An IM angle cannot not be ruled considering the area in which it took place, the IB says.

They have at least four of their modules in the area and are quite capable of carrying out an attack of this nature. However, this attack appears more of a revenge tactic for the Batla House encounter and also a fear creating mechanism ahead of the games.

The IM has been lying low after a spate of arrests and were making a desperate attempt to bounce back and hence were desperate to carry out an attack.

Looking at the attack on Sunday, it is clear that they wanted to target foreign nationals since this would create much more impact.

During the previous security meetings in the run up to the CWG, IB reports had specifically spoken of similar kinds of attacks. It was said that dedicated enclosed routes have to be provided for the transportation of the players since terror groups will be looking to create a hostage crisis and also opening fire on the buses that they would be travelling in.

The Delhi Police are, however, mum on any terror angle and say that they are focusing on nabbing the two men who opened fire.
The IM group name seems to be deliberately being downplayed by both Delhi Police ( calling it local gangs etc) and MSM, most probably on instructions of GoI...

However, the small impact and modus operandi of this attack seems to suggest that the IM capability has been severely curtailed compared t their peak of 2007-08 when they were toying with GoI..

I wouldn't underestimate their capability, IM is L-e-T/ISI affliated organization if it is at all different from them in the first place.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 20 Sep 2010 02:50

brihaspati wrote:This creates even greater pressures on GOI to find the "saffron" guilty, and the cycle goes on till Islamists are able to achieve at least their partial territorial ambitions and after that the rump GOI an the parties behind it will blame the entire episode on the saffron - that saffron "provoked" the IM.

Bji, I thoroughly follow and enjoy your posts, just like the other posts from other gyaani log here. I am always intrigued by oblique references to territorial losses for Indian state. India has weathered much more ferocious, well organized, movements with foreign sponsors. Why do you think or rather what has changed in Bharat? We were much more fragmented, impoverished, dependent than we are now. I do not have the hind-sight of GOI actions in Naxal movements in 70s, or Khalistan movement or JK flare up. Was the GOI reaction in those times more robust, dedicated, purposeful, humane than it is now? Is our country's cohesiveness so much compromised at the top that a country without nuclear weaponry had the wherewithal to manage those situation but a country which provides better living conditions to more of its people than 3 decades back cannot?

These are not rhetorical questions, I am sincere when asking them. If this thread is not appropriate please reply in the appropriate forum. Thanks a lot for your time in advance. At the risk of repeating, these are my honest questions and no other insinuation or anything like that.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 20 Sep 2010 03:30

Prahaar ji,
not suitable for open forum. But briefly - if you consider - those admins at those times had much greater legitimacy with power concentrated in the hand sof the "individual" at the top. It is no longer so clear cut a concentration of power and the political admin often is getting bogged down in fights. The regime is losing control over the politics and hesitates to take firm steps. This was never an issue with the "dictators".

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 20 Sep 2010 11:08

In addition jupiter ji's uvacha.
Our territory is being nibled away not occupied in one shot like in 1947 or 1962. Is drip drip drip in action due to inaction on the part of central administration and leadership. We have ceeded to all our neigbours to buy peace but never got anything in return. From Srl Lanka (kachateevu) Bdesh, Burma, Nepal, PRC and TSP. Every time press reports PRC presence in Indian territory all we do(Center is deny anything like that happened)

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 20 Sep 2010 12:32

CWG - Realize the importance of this opportunity. The UPA govt sacrifices numerous rights of indian citizens to prevent the muslims from getting a reason to explode bombs. Events like CWG actually ties the hands of the congress govt from curbing your rights.

The indian mujahideen has repeated far too many times to the media networks that the attackers are in fact *indian muslims*. They have even mocked the indian media when it was claimed that pakistan had an hand.

The congress tries very hard to exempt *islam* from any explosions and when an islamic hand does surface, it blames that on the pakistani's. Yesterday's explosion carried an email from the claimant group - the indian mujahideen.

An attack at CWG might make things interesting.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 20 Sep 2010 12:59

The UPA govt sacrifices numerous rights of indian citizens to prevent the muslims from getting a reason to explode bombs. Events like CWG actually ties the hands of the congress govt from curbing your rights.

You may want to rephrase that a bit. I can hear Breaper Drones starting up.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 Sep 2010 13:19

IM e-mail speaks of ‘insult’ to woman in hijab

Mumbai: A Burqa-clad woman allegedly denied entry into Central Mumbai’s premier civic healthcare institution, the King Edward Memorial (KEM) Hospital in Parel, found mention in the Indian Mujahideen’s email in which the group claimed responsibility for the attack on two foreign tourists in Delhi.

The incident was reported by an afternoon tabloid in Mumbai, the report accompanied by a photograph of 47-year-old Tanveer Fatima, who was allegedly denied entry after she refused to take off her hijab.

On the night of September 14, according to the report, Fatima was denied entry along with her relatives after she refused to lift her veil while passing through the security check. She had reportedly come to the hospital along with an ailing uncle who was referred to KEM hospital from Lilavati Hospital in Bandra where he was being treated earlier. The report does not mention whether her uncle was admitted.

“We have to check each and every person who enters the hospital,” said Dr Sanjay Oak, dean of KEM Hospital. “There have been cases of infants being stolen from government hospitals in the past and so we are very cautious ever since.”

According to the report, while Fatima’s relatives entered the building, she chose to remain outside as she did not want to reveal her hair. “Others who had accompanied her went in without any trouble. But when Fatima refused to show her face while passing the security check, we had to stop her at the enterance,” said Dr P B Bhosale, Deputy Dean of KEM Hospital.

The email sent by IM reads: “The incident of our sister wearing hijab who was insulted and humiliated at the KEM hospital in Bombay on orders of Bombay Police will not be forgotten....”

Interesting that this specific instance finding mention in the IM e-mail is being suppressed by MSM

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 20 Sep 2010 13:35

So called Secularism at its finest. ROP is above any security apprehension.Let's watch as the G.O.I(read secular parties) twists facts to protect their beloved vote bank.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 20 Sep 2010 14:16

This one is for you nvishal

Rickshaw-puller gave chase, threw stone at attackers

New Delhi: Salim, a 26-year-old rickshaw-puller, didn’t cower in fear when he saw the two assailants open fire. He picked up a stone and hurled them at the attackers, turning into an unlikely hero.

He was dropping a passenger at Gate No. 3 when he noticed the two gunmen opening fire on the tourist bus. Seeing Salim charging towards them, the two men panicked and dropped a magazine at the spot. He was also the one who alerted the cops nearby after which the police started chasing them.

Bukhari calls it a terrorist attack

‘It is a terrorist attack aimed at creating panic, preventing foreign visitors from coming to the city and making the Games a failure. This has been done to spread panic in India so that people from outside do not come to Delhi,’’ Bukhari said at LNJP Hospital where he had gone to see the victims.

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 20 Sep 2010 14:54

nvishal this is for you-

'Whenever the ROP is questioned throw a dozen examples.This will help in whitewashing the genocide, rape, looting of millions etc. that has gone on for a thousand year's and is still continuing under its peaceful ideologies'.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 20 Sep 2010 15:03

The rikshawwalla ( Salim) is an individual just as the men who attacked the tourist bus were indiaviduals. Just as the actions of a few loonies cannot be used to prove the guilt of the entire community the same way the actions of the a few law abiding citizens cannot be used to show the loyalties of the entire community.

Having said so, as an Indian I hope and pray that Salim and his fellow citizens continue to grow and prosper in our nation without having to fear anything. The attackers and there fellow travelers get the long arm of law with extreme prejudice.

Just my two bits

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 20 Sep 2010 15:08

The most shameful thing for the entire Indian Muslim community is that some political parties use them as an excuse to mollycolldle the worst of Wahhabi, Salafi extremist ideologies.

In India they will protect the Kazi Nazurl Hussain (of Debganga fame) but not a Talisma Nasreen.

Talisma was not a muslim? Then we rant about how muslims are getting "alienated" - well what do you expect? You leave them with no choice but to side with hardliners, you remove free thinkers, you promote the worst variety so they can get votes for you.

Who created Mahadani? The Muslims in Kerala? Or the appeasers in CPM?

Manishw · Post by **Manishw** » 20 Sep 2010 15:17

The question is why are the IM in general ready to be appeased.This violent behavior is found not only in India but in Porkistan, bangladesh, middle east, even pocket's of western countries where the concentration of ROP ideology is larger.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 20 Sep 2010 15:19

Sanku,

The question is why the moderates of the community are / were silent when Taslima was being attacked. Why are they not speaking up when the retrogressive forces of Islam are dominating the narrative.

What you are suggesting is just an abdication of responsibility by the population what ever be the reasons for that.

Don't know who said this, For evil to spread, it only requires that the good people do nothing. Its high time the good people take a stand and tell the regressive forces in loud and united voice STFU

JMT

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 20 Sep 2010 15:28

Let me talk about India alone here...

For 60 years we have created a condition where our strength supports the worst tendencies and those who think differently are silenced. This coupled with the essential nature of the history and various theologies create a condition where IMs have no option but to be either silent or actively toe a particular PoV.

If we could support the likes of Salman Rushdie and Talisma Nasreen, we will see the movement pick strength.

OTOH we actively move towards silencing the free voices with all the power at our command -- the "secular" GoIs force is with the hardliners, how do you expect the people actually "trapped" within that matrix itself to come out on their own?

Anyway please dont reply to what I have said, think about what I have said instead and feel free to obtain extrapolations...

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 20 Sep 2010 15:31

Pratyush wrote:The rikshawwalla ( Salim) is an individual just as the men who attacked the tourist bus were indiaviduals. Just as the actions of a few loonies cannot be used to prove the guilt of the entire community the same way the actions of the a few law abiding citizens cannot be used to show the loyalties of the entire community.

Exactly, this is all that every minority community in India asks - Equality, and AFAIK The Republic of India provides the same mechanism for everybody in terms of education , job oppurtunities, law and order, justice , healthcare etc etc.

Treat the radicals for what they are i.e. Criminals who cause harm to life and property. For decades now Political parties have encouraged minority extremists by mistaking them as the voice of majority of the community, this is one of the main reasons we have an element of religious extremism today.

I concur that the police and ATS need to do a certain ammount of community profiling to narrow down the criminals but the day this filters down to the rest of us, that day we should be ashamed.

Also , what is obvious is why the miscreants choose to shoot the tourists in front of Jama Masjid. Their purpose is accomplished if it creates any sort of divide in communities and politicians play politics on top of that.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 20 Sep 2010 15:40

deleted. OT.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 20 Sep 2010 15:47

Instead, we have ROPers jumping all over the place calling the Batla house encounter 'fake/staged' etc. Defending the worst instincts in fellow ROPers and what not. This is exactly what the media project. And end of the day, what do they expect? Packee style negotiation tactics of using or threatening violence won't work always. At some point, those with decency should show the same.

Indeed, but I seem to have forgotten now who was that Bigot politician who went about stoking passions by saying that Batla encounter was fake and MC Sharma staged the shootout. Someone please remind me.

Also , I never understood what is this non-sense about Religion of peace. AFAIK, there is no particular religion of peace in the world. Yes, I can vouch for the fact that Verses of Koran do not encourage killing on non-muslims but the same is the case with any other religious book.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 20 Sep 2010 16:02

Nihat, It was not just one politition, there were two.

1) No point for guessing if you are able to guess. This Slimeball afetr callign the encounter fake tried to give a cheque of soem anount to the berieved familiy (Inspector Sharmas). They rightly regected the compensation cheque.
2) Digvijay Singh, this turd actually went to the home town of the Terrorists and said sorry to the parent of the terrorists for the killing.

archan · Post by **archan** » 20 Sep 2010 16:13

Users are urged not to digress from the thread. While it is fine to criticize the governement, making your criticism political only takes away from it. Thirdly, do not generalize your opinions to all Indian Muslims and Islam. It is not permitted on these forums and action will be taken against the offenders. Nikhil and Manishw, this is in particular for your posts. Hari Seldon, please use the proper term, Muslims and not ROPers. You'll be amazed that how many things you will find yourself uncomfortable posting here when you do that. It seems that "ROP" and "ROPers" has become a good excuse to take the sting out of some statements and make them sound less hateful than they are.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 20 Sep 2010 16:30

Sanku wrote:Let me talk about India alone here...

For 60 years we have created a condition where our strength supports the worst tendencies and those who think differently are silenced. This coupled with the essential nature of the history and various theologies create a condition where IMs have no option but to be either silent or actively toe a particular PoV.

If we could support the likes of Salman Rushdie and Talisma Nasreen, we will see the movement pick strength.

OTOH we actively move towards silencing the free voices with all the power at our command -- the "secular" GoIs force is with the hardliners, how do you expect the people actually "trapped" within that matrix itself to come out on their own?

Anyway please dont reply to what I have said, think about what I have said instead and feel free to obtain extrapolations...

Sanku ji, you cannot view the last 60 years (since 1947) in exclusivity. What happened before 1947 has a direct bearing on what happened after 1947. We can look at the Muslim behavior before 1947 and compare that with that of today's IMs and gauge how much difference exists between the two. How much integration has happened? Has the ghettoization stopped? How have they reacted to policy/court decisions that have do not conform to Sharia? They reacted with violent anger at the time of Shah Bano, if tomorrow India gives asylum to Taslima Nasreen, there is no doubt they will again take to the streets. So what exactly do they want? They want to be appeased or they dont want to be appeased? If they wanted to be appeased, then they have had their way for 60 years & more, but they have still not given anything in return i.e not integrated with the society, have kept to themselves & enjoyed the appeasement. If they did not want to be appeased then when the Government takes a decision that's not appeasing them, why do they turn violent, abuse the rights extended to them, abuse the state, the majority community, the police & play the victim?

Nihat wrote:Exactly, this is all that every minority community in India asks - Equality

Their actions most certainly do not reflect this.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 20 Sep 2010 16:39

Chandragupta wrote: Sanku ji, you cannot view the last 60 years (since 1947) in exclusivity.

CGji, I am certainly not looking at the last 60 years, in fact I have all the previous 1000 years in mind when I say what I say. Neither do I disagree with your observations, they are all there valid and correct, those things have indeed happened, and I am aware of it but still say what I said.

You will have to read my post once more perhaps to see what I am getting to, I dont want to drag it out here outside the context of internal security.

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 20 Sep 2010 16:50

//i know im off topic but this one will not go far

It is not meaningful for me to engage in *clarifications* whenever IM is mentioned. Im aware that there are bad seeds in all communities.

The islamic community explicitly engages in hostility towards non-muslims. But not *all* muslims fall for it. Salim is an example of it. It is not right to kill a human. Somehow every child born already knows that. Not all get indoctrinated. But the possibilities of a child getting indoctrinated are high(comparatively) in islam. And that possibility is real enough to be considered to separate the bad from the good.

We need to accept the fact that there are some bad seeds in the IM community. The GoI needs to come clean on it. IM's are still largely untouched by the global muslim jihadi propaganda. In a way, IM's have assimilated themselves with dharma to some degree.

sum · Post by **sum** » 20 Sep 2010 21:54

E-mail threatening CWG traced to Mumbai

The email purportedly sent by outlawed Indian Mujahideen [ Images ] owning up the attacks outside Jama Masjid and threatening more strikes ahead of Commonwealth Games has been traced to Mumbai [ Images ], police said on Monday.

"The email was sent from Mumbai. The server has been tracked to Mumbai," a senior police official said. The Indian Mujahideen has in an email sent to various media houses threatened to unleash violence during the Commonwealth Games [ Images ] soon after yesterday's firing incident at the Jama Masjid in which two Taiwanese nationals were injured.

An e-mail sent to BBC does not directly refer to the incident of firing but says, "in the name of Allah, the attack is a tribute to Atif Amin and Mohammed Sajid." Both of them were killed by the police in the Batla House encounter on September 19, 2008.

Maharashtra seems to have become a real hotbed of the Islamist kind ( similar to Kerala)

Meanwhile, B Raman dissects the IM e-mail:

IM mail hints at act of suicide terrorism

The statement purporting to be from the Indian Mujahideen disseminated by email on September 19, is shown as having been signed by one Al Arbi. It refers to certain anti-Muslim incidents which allegedly took place in Ratlam in Madhya Pradesh [ Images ] on the day of Eid (September 11). It also refers to the day when the total number of people allegedly killed by the security forces in Jammu & Kashmir [ Images ] crossed 100 (September 17). This would indicate that this message must have been drafted between September 17 and 19.

The statement is in good English with very few grammar or typing mistakes. It has been drafted by one well-versed in the Holy Koran. Many of the religious allusions have been taken from some past messages of Osama bin Laden [ Images ], but Osama has not been mentioned anywhere by name.

The last para of the message has been borrowed almost word for word from a message against General Pervez Musharraf [ Images ] and the Pakistani Army issued by Osama in September 2007 calling for the wrath of Allah on them for the raid into the Lal Masjid of Islamabad [ Images ] in July, 2007.

It reads: 'O, Allah, deface them, break their backs and heads, split them up and destroy their unity; O, Allah, afflict them with the loss of their near and dear ones as they have afflicted us with the loss of our near and dear ones; O, Allah, we seek refuge in You from their evilness and we place You at their throats; O, Allah, make their plotting their destruction; O, Allah, suffice for us against them with whatever You wish; O, Allah, destroy them for they cannot escape You; O, Allah, count them, kill them and leave not even one of them. "

There are only two minor changes. Osama Laden had not said "deface them". He had also not said "and heads". One does not know wherefrom Osama had originally taken his curse against Musharraf and the Pakistani Army. Osama curse against them has been converted by the IM into a curse against the Indian people and officials. I had referred to Osama's message of September 2007 in my book Terrorism [ Images ]: Yesterday, Today & Tomorrow.

The statement does not directly claim responsibility on behalf of the IM for the attack in Delhi on September 19 in which two Taiwanese tourists were injured. However, it indirectly hints at its responsibility by saying: "In the name of Allah we dedicate this attack of retribution"

In its reference to the forthcoming Commonwealth Games [ Images ], it says: "On the one hand Muslim blood is flowing like water, while on the other hand you are preparing for the festival of games. This is surely not a child's play. Mind you this is the initiative from the Lions of Allah and we warn you to host the Commonwealth Games if you have a grain of salt. We know that the preparations for the Games are at its peak. Beware we too are preparing in full swing for a great surprise. The participants will be solely responsible for the outcome as our bands of Mujahideens love death more than you love life."

It has highlighted in red ink the following words: "Our bands of Mujahideen love death more than you love life." This could be a hint or threat that it is planning to commit an act of suicide or suicidal terrorism. The IM has not so far indulged in either.

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 21 Sep 2010 12:54

Jama Masjid shooting probe now reaches UP

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Sep 2010 13:27

sum wrote: Maharashtra seems to have become a real hotbed of the Islamist kind ( similar to Kerala)

That arc goes from coastal Gujarat to Maharashtra, Kanara, Kerala and into Southern Tamilnadu.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 21 Sep 2010 13:45

sum wrote:IM mail hints at act of suicide terrorism

It has highlighted in red ink the following words: "Our bands of Mujahideen love death more than you love life." This could be a hint or threat that it is planning to commit an act of suicide or suicidal terrorism.

I am thinking aloud if it could be the involvement of Brigade 313 and Ilyas Kashmiri ? References to OBL, threat of suicide terrorism, the reference to OBL's curse of Gen. Musharraf (which was what propelled Ilyas Kashmiri to intensify his group's activities) may be pointers.

Vril · Post by **Vril** » 21 Sep 2010 20:59

X posting from TSP thread

Reporting live from Zee news

Pakistan's nuclear equipment missing from sindh area since June this year and yet no trace of it !!!!

oh boy this is serious trouble. we are in for some really interesting times ahead.

Vril · Post by **Vril** » 21 Sep 2010 20:59

X posting from TSP thread

Reporting live from Zee news

Pakistan's nuclear equipment missing from sindh area since June this year and yet no trace of it !!!!

oh boy this is serious trouble. we are in for some really interesting times ahead.

Ameet · Post by **Ameet** » 21 Sep 2010 22:17

Pak spy held in Delhi; confidential documents of army seized

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story ... eized.html

A suspected Pakistani spy, who was in Delhi for the last one year doing recce of army installations, was arrested by the police on Tuesday, claiming that they have recovered confidential documents related to Indian Army from his possession.

Sajjad Haider (43), hailing from Lahore, was apprehended by a team of Delhi Police's Special Cell from Samalkha village on September 14 on a tip off from central intelligence agencies, a senior police official said.

He has revealed names of certain persons who facilitated his activities in India, who are being questioned. He was staying in the capital with a fake name Mohd Pervez, he said.

"Confidential documents related to Indian Army, a fake Indian driving license, an Indian PAN card along with Western Union money transfer receipts, rent agreements, mobile sim cards and phones have been recovered from his rented accommodation in Samalakha," the official said.

Trained at Military trade craft in Lahore by ISI for five months, the official said, he was tasked to conduct recce of army installations in Punjab to collect information regarding movements of armed forces.

"He had entered India in September last year through Bangladesh. He was directed by his handlers to first obtain credible Indian IDs to pass off as an Indian. Thereafter he went about the task of procuring forged Identity proof/ documents for himself which would facilitate him in making a base for carrying out his mission successfully," the official said.

He also revealed that as per the instructions of his mentors, he had received the recovered confidential documents from a source in Delhi and the same was to be sent to one of his Pakistani handler via Dubai through courier.

"He also revealed that after coming to Delhi he initially picked up odd jobs in Okhla Industrial Area and started developing contacts with other logistic providers in the area," the official said.

He managed to procure fake Indian driving license and Indian PAN card through local agents. Soon he also procured mobile sim cards of different companies on the basis of his fake driving license and on the basis of IDs of other persons.

After staying for some time in Okhla area, he took a rented room at Govindpuri, and later shifted to Samalakha.

"In between, he came in contact with one married lady and started cohabiting with her and her daughter in order to camouflage himself as a family man. During this period accused worked as a driver on different cabs attached with call centers at Gurgaon and Delhi," the official said.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Sep 2010 22:35

Two detained in Mumbai for Delhi shooting.

LINK

I think the police should have the fake ids and phone card issuers on their list of informants. This way they can keep track of whats going on. Its more important to observe TSP spies.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 21 Sep 2010 22:52

ramana wrote:Two detained in Mumbai for Delhi shooting.

LINK

I think the police should have the fake ids and phone card issuers on their list of informants. This way they can keep track of whats going on. Its more important to observe TSP spies.

Has anyone noticed how the market for mobiles and cell phone thingies have been cornered by a particular lot?

As is the auto / taxi transportation sector in most cities.

Coincidence??

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 21 Sep 2010 23:40

add to that repairing cell phones too

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 22 Sep 2010 01:35

chetak wrote: Has anyone noticed how the market for mobiles and cell phone thingies have been cornered by a particular lot?

As is the auto / taxi transportation sector in most cities.

Coincidence??

I visited Hyderabad last month and this was very visible.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 22 Sep 2010 01:38

http://www.eenadu.net/archives/archive- ... eccount=32

Cannot trust RSS/BJP - Digwijay Singh

INC chief secretary Digwijay Singh stated that INC cannot trust RSS/BJP in Ayodhya issue and commented that they can do anything. He also opined that INC made a mistake in 1992 by submitting an affidavit in their support.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 22 Sep 2010 02:37

RamaY wrote:
chetak wrote: Has anyone noticed how the market for mobiles and cell phone thingies have been cornered by a particular lot?

As is the auto / taxi transportation sector in most cities.

Coincidence??
I visited Hyderabad last month and this was very visible.

Car and Bike mechanic is also being cornered

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 22 Sep 2010 03:11

^ Not that it is a bad thing or a conspiracy.

But the two cab companies I used, couldn't find a single driver who can speak Telugu in Hyderabad. On the other hand most of the call-center people are Telugus.

Probably due to educational and occupational preference.

Then I moved to the third company which has only large cars. Surprizingly all the drivers there are Telugu speaking community.