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A_Gupta wrote:shiv, the idea that the people recognize no authority, not government, and not "tribal leader, pir, imam, the Taliban, zamindar, whatever" is what seems to be an exaggeration.
I don't know Arun.

I think the point is that people "respect" authority only when that authority has a presence, either physically or mentally in the form of a conscience. Neither seem to have been present at that Sialkot incident.

However - maybe I am missing your point. Maybe the authority itself works in this way - summary and brutal justice. Looked at through this perspective - the authority was working perfectly well via that mob.
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US are sneering at the $9 mil aid from china asking if the friendship is taller than himalaya why the aid is lower than a molehill :)
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Jacobabad airbase saved at cost of Balochistan
ISLAMABAD – Deputy Chairman Senate Mir Jan Mohammad Khan Jamali on Friday made a stunning statement that an airbase was being saved from floodwaters at the cost of Balochistan and as a result more than 85 percent part of Jaffarabad has been inundated by flood.

The statement came after Secretary Health Khushnood Lashari on Wednesday informed the Senate Committee on Health that Shahbaz Airbase (Jacobabad) could not be used for relief operations in the flood-affected areas of Jacobabad as the airbase was under the control of US.
Jamali, however, did not elaborate his point and limited his remarks to this statement while talking to this scribe. He also severely criticised the PPP-led government for its mishandling of the disaster. “The people should compare how Z A Bhutto’s PPP had handled the flood situation in 1976 and how the present PPP rulers are managing it, this would unfold many things,” he added.
The Deputy Chairman Senate has also written a letter to Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry requesting him to take a suo motto notice to ascertain the responsibility of the devastation caused by breaching of Thori Band near Guddu Barrage at Indus River. The breach has caused destruction at a massive level in district Jaffarabad of Balochistan. The letter has raised many eyebrows that the people even sitting in the Parliament are also seeking justice from the Supreme Court.
In his letter (No. DCS/2010 dated August 18, 2010) addressed to the CJP, a copy of which is available with TheNation, Jamali blamed that ‘the breach on the left bank of Indus is reportedly to save some influentials’ standing crops and lands without an assessment of the destruction to residents of the district of Jaffarabad’.
The letter says, “The breach inundated all the four tehsils of Jaffarabad district and the water rose to a height of 7 feet destroying every single building, household of the rural communities. About 85 percent of the inhabitants of Jaffarabad have, therefore, become Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) in the districts of Nasirabad, Sibi and Quetta”.
Jamali also said in the letter that out of the one million population of Jaffarabad, 0.85 million inhabitants had lost their houses, crops, livestock and livelihoods while 5-7 ft deep water had destroyed 90 percent of the agriculture land including crops and infrastructure as well as communications. He in his letter attributed this devastation to a callous and anti-human attitude of the authorities concerned.
The Deputy Chairman Senate while talking to TheNation on Friday also said that thousands of people had taken shelter at Saifullah Magsi and Kherther. “The people of Balochistan have been stranded in Bungel Derra, Ahmed Sial, Faizal-ul-Faqir, Goth Ghulam Mohammad, Goth Ali Ghulam Lashari and Goth Patogi due to the torrential rains and heavy floods and they have to be rescued within no time,” he said. He also stressed that the Army should have to be moved to rescue these thousands of people.
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^ Very similar to "The security of East Pakistan lies in W. Pakistan".
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Rahul Shukla wrote:Flood-hit Pakistan unlikely to hit growth target (Reuters)
Pakistan is unlikely to reach its target of 4.5 percent economic growth due to the worst floods in its history, the Asian Development Bank said.
When there is disaster, we also need humour. The above is one such. Was the ADB expecting Pakistan to actually reach 4.5% economic growth before the floods ? On what basis was this optimism by the ADB ? Perhaps, on fudged figures provided by the GoP, as they did recently to WB claiming that only 17% of their population was BPL. Earlier instances of similar fudging are well known too and much appreciated by Shri. Wolfensohn.
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PM Saab get $5mn dollar worth box of 'aam'. I want to taste it too.... as I am 'aam' admi paying for it....
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PAF shoots down health secretary's 'US controlling Jacobabad air base' claims
Confusion prevails over who actually controls the Shahbaz airbase in Jacobabad, as the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has rebuked the senate standing committee on health secretary's statement that the airbase is under the US' command.

A statement issued by the PAF rejected the committee's claims, saying such reports were untrue.

"Certain sections of the print and electronic media have wrongly reported that the PAF Base Shahbaz (Jacobabad) is under the control of the US. This has been spread by uninformed people," the statement said.

The PAF also organised a media tour of the airbase to prove its point.

Interacting with media persons during the hurriedly organised tour, Air Vice Marshal Arshad Quddus of the Southern Air Command asked reporters to see for themselves whether the airbase houses any American drones or aircrafts.

"The Shahbaz Airbase is under complete operational control of the PAF. If you see any American let me know.... seeing is believing... there are no drones and no Americans," The Dawn quoted Quddus, as saying.

Quddus, however, said that some Americans were present at the airbase to provide technical assistance to the air force which had recently acquired the upgraded F-16 fighter jets from Washington.

He pointed out that health secretary Khusnood Lashari's statement was out of context.

"I don't know why a senior federal health ministry official commented over the airbase... I think he is not aware," Quddus said. (ANI)
It sure is hilarious! How can the wise Air vice Marshal flip 180 degree, from challenging anyon,e to find any Yankee on his base of any kind what so ever, to yeah well I do have some that are servicing my aircrafts! whats not said out but we all know is "i need to get permission from those Yankees to come inside the gate of my base!!" how entertaining.
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India welcomes Pakistan's acceptance of aid
“We welcome the decision of Pakistan to accept the aid offer,” External Affairs Ministry spokesperson Vishnu Prakash told journalists here on Friday. “We believe India and Pakistan share a common destiny, {This is totally uncalled for and meaningless. What common destiny do we share ?} and it is in common interest of both countries to work together for cordial and cooperative relations.”
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SSridhar:

Indeed that statement along with the defeaning repitition with which this bogus statement attributed to ISI that they consider their terrorist assets as more of a threat than India shows you how pathetic and toothless India's approach is to TSP.
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SSridhar wrote:India welcomes Pakistan's acceptance of aid
“We welcome the decision of Pakistan to accept the aid offer,” External Affairs Ministry spokesperson Vishnu Prakash told journalists here on Friday. “We believe India and Pakistan share a common destiny, {This is totally uncalled for and meaningless. What common destiny do we share ?} and it is in common interest of both countries to work together for cordial and cooperative relations.”

Indic Destiny, what else ? survived for thousands of years and many thousands yet to go.
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whats up with this Bhen-Ki-Moon?? whats in for him by shouting "Help Pakistan"?
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Theo_Fidel wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:Pakistan or no Pakistan, there will be 170+ million souls to India's west. If the goal is to gain mindshare among them, now is the time.
I doubt the Abdul's care where they get their next meal from.
They will put it all down to Allah provides.

This is anecdotal but did anyone see the number Koran's being saved. Seems like every relief camp picture shows a number of them.

There was one picture of a TFTA Mard lamenting about losing cattle, farms and family members
and in front of him was a honking huge 100 pound monster Koran he managed to save.

Don't fool your self on how harmless be these Abduls. They'd slit your throat, even now, if
they thought that there was koran, H&D, etc insulting involved.
I completely agree. I doubt there is any humanity left in them, at least not when religious matters are concerned.
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The only way these Abduls can be trusted is if they Give up on their faith and embrace the Indic way. If not the virus will continue to fester and will always be on the lookout for an opportunity to hurt us.
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Flood for thought: Is Rs 5 per head a fair price for peace with Pak?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 385854.cms
Very early into his term, President Obama openly suggested that Washington had to pay off Pakistan to keep terrorists away from US shores. Most pundits believe that is the cheaper option than going into the snake pit, as they found out in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Should New Delhi pursue a similar policy? Consider this. If India were to offer Pakistan $100 million in aid (more than what any other country has and an offer that would be harder to refuse than $5 million), it would still amount to less than five rupees per head. But why should India offer such a large sum when millions in India are starving? Well one way of looking at it is continued attrition through terrorism may be costing India more and an outright war to stop this could run into billions — so why not try a $100 million olive branch at a time when humanitarian concern also call for it? The catch though, as the US has found on this slippery slope, is that the beast may never be sated.
Event Chidanand Rajgahtta is advocating Jaziya.
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It is a very cleverly worded article and the last line speaks for itself. Dont find fault with CR. It is like 'hope you stopped beating your wife' kind of statement that Pakbarians cannot reply...Pro India journalists have to learn such spit and run tactics from rapist goon puppet chennai yellow pages and others like that...
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kittoo wrote: I completely agree. I doubt there is any humanity left in them, at least not when religious matters are concerned.
you mean they are humans in other non-religious aspects? Hell no. ROP(T) tell you there is only one dimension to life and that is religion. No music, no nothing..
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moving OT post from IWT thread to here!
JE Menon wrote:Ignoring Pakistan is not enough.
We should not ignore P-stan, we should make it ignorable! The possibility of making its voice, its nuisance value unimportant is what is needed!
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Just made a couple of replies to the F@rticle by Chidanand Rajgahtta. Lets see if they publish the same
India's responsibility is to Provide food, cloth and shelter to its own unfortunate millions.
Only the first line was published. The lines asking the pakis to not buy toys for the Military and use the resources thus saved was edited out.
The author is only sujesting that Indians collectively start paying Jazia to the pakistanies in order to live safely.
Was published as is
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Blast kills six anti-Taliban fighters in Mohmand

PESHAWAR: A bomb blast killed six anti-Taliban militia fighters in Pakistan's northwestern tribal belt on Saturday and wounded five others, officials said.
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Three shot dead, two injured in Karachi firing

KARACHI: Three more persons have been shot dead and two have sustained injuries in various firing incidents in Karachi, Samaa reported on Saturday.
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anupmisra wrote:Blame others
Hey! Pay up.
Countries like Canada, the US, Russia, China, India, Kuwait, Japan and members of the European Union are major contributors towards greenhouse gases emissions due to which climatologically changes take place causing unprecedented heavy rains[/b]. Therefore, they must contribute towards the repair and reconstruction efforts through financial assistance on an ongoing basis.

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Kuwait? :eek: :lol:
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What is this with GoI and some people desperate to send aid to Pakistan. Here we keep talking about managing Pakistan and reclaiming our Land in various ways and when nature tries to do what GoI could not do in last 63 years, we cringe, squirm and somehow want to save TSPians from reaching their manifested destiny.
The only way India can claim the land is when whole of TSP is washed down to Pakistan Arabian sea, The land cleaned from years of Adharmic influence for good.
There is absolutely nothing that India or Indians can do change mind set of the TSPians. This is how snakes operate.
It is not only about Pakjabi's. The same murderous ,thuggist mindset is shared by Sindhi, Pathan and anyone else who resides on there..
If we hear only about Pakjabi's that is because they are the noisiest lot and carry a stick.
So lets save all the Parle-G and Amulya for Ladhakh and pray that the Prayers that Pakis made few months ago about not having enough water and Sindhu becoming a dry creek be responded by ATM. After all isn't it said that ,"Bhagwan ke ghar der hai Andher nahin"
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http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... breaks-180
A growing number of politicians from opposition and ruling parties are putting their weight behind the demand for an independent inquiry into the unannounced and mysterious breaches in the Indus river embankments in upper Sindh that led to the inundation of large areas of Balochistan.
As usual, pakis are blaming this "mysterious" breach on Indua river flow down towards Baluchistan by US to protect its Shahbaz airbase. However I somehow suspect this is ISI/TSPA act to protect its precious jewels downstream. Of course it does not want this to be announced publicly, and USA conspiracy comes handy to manipulate public opinion in such case.
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while we are sleeping, the pious continue to purity pakistan...three killed in Karachi...

And here is a news report on the situation...

Can someone clarify how someone can attend his own funeral? :rotfl:

Yousufzai misses his funeral so it was held in absentia...
The funeral prayer in absentia of Yousufzai was offered at Mardan Chowk, attended by party workers and leaders. staff report
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Tamang wrote:Blame others
Countries like Canada, the US, Russia, China, India, Kuwait, Japan and members of the European Union are major contributors towards greenhouse gases emissions
Kuwait? :eek: :lol:
It took me, a dumb SDRE after all, to guess why this mard was referring to Kuwait along with others. Then, it was an Aha moment. He was referring to the burning of oil wells in the 1990 Gulf War.
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Hardliners & Flood Relief - Edit in DAWN
Also, the concept of charity is a major motivational factor with all religious organisations, not just Islamic ones. So the hardliners’ response to the floods is more likely to be guided by a sense of religious obligation than an opportunity to win more recruits.
Look at the usage of the word 'hardliners'; they are not 'terrorists', only 'hardliners'. This is how all Pakistanis play word games. Falah-e-Insaniyat is nothing but Jama'at-ud-Dawah and the Jama'at is nothing but Lashkar-e-Tayyba.

The DAWN, after making such a convenient redefinition of the terrorists, goes ahead to defend them. After all, they are performing their religious duty. The jihad againt the kufr is also, after all, a mandatory religious duty according to LeT and Prof. Hafeez Saeed.

So, are Zardari & Makhdoom Qureshi wrong when they said that that if aid did not come, the terrorist organizations would win more recruits ?
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Silly question follows, pardon me for my ignorance.

Going by maps and pictures, majority of flooded areas lie in plains and water level doesn't seem to be too high. At worse it looks like the river or canal got too much water and flooded the land around it's banks. In this case, only the sparsely populated low-lying land/farms near river banks should be seriously flooded while areas further should be relatively safe with minor to severe water logging problem at worst. So how come everybody is claiming that 20% of that country is flooded ? Is there enough water to cover so big a land mass ?
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SSridhar wrote:BijuShet, thanks. I have seen both references. I still do not have info on when this guy was arrested, the exact date.
Name is slightly different but this must be the guy, detained on January 4, 2003 at karachi airport.


Jack Thomas goes free after six-year battle against terrorism charges
October 24, 2008

FIVE years and nine months since he was arrested at Karachi airport in Pakistan, Jack Thomas yesterday walked out of court a free man.

Arrested in two countries, interrogated, tortured, convicted, acquitted and retried, the Muslim convert finally got the verdict he had been praying for.

A Supreme Court jury, after two days of deliberations, found him not guilty of receiving cash and a plane ticket home from al-Qaeda.

"Thank you," the 35-year-old mouthed to the jury.

After legal wrangling that has cost taxpayers millions of dollars, the only charge that stuck related to Thomas falsifying his Australian passport to remove a Taliban visa in a desperate bid to return home.

But Thomas is unlikely to spend any more time in jail. The passport charge carries a maximum two-year sentence, but he has already spent five months behind bars in Pakistan and nine months in Australia.

He was arrested at his Werribee home four years ago, and it has been more than 2½ years since he was found guilty by a Supreme Court jury; the first man convicted under the Howard government's terror laws.

Two years ago, he was acquitted by the Court of Appeal, which granted a retrial just four months later.

Prosecutors convinced the appeal court that interviews given by Thomas to The Age and ABC's Four Corners constituted new evidence.

During the Four Corners interview, Thomas admitted accepting a plane ticket and $US3500 cash from senior al-Qaeda figure Khaled bin Attash in a bid to return to Australia from Pakistan.

He had travelled to the al-Farooq training camp in Afghanistan in 2001 with the intention of fighting for the Taliban in its war with the Northern Alliance. He said he only realised it was controlled by the "very polite and humble and shy" Osama bin Laden when he came to visit.

He spent only a week at the front line. As he fled after the fall of Kabul, he was plucked from a truck by an al-Qaeda member who said it was not safe to return to Australia and helped him cross the border.

He spent 13 months in safe houses in Pakistan before accepting the ticket and cash from bin Attash. Thomas told Age journalist Ian Munro they were arranged by Pakistani well-wishers sympathetic to the Taliban, and bin Attash had "hijacked the situation".

He had a Taliban visa removed from his passport, he said, because he regarded it as "a one-way ticket to Guantanamo Bay". The jury did not accept that Thomas was in an "emergency" situation when he tampered with his passport, despite evidence he was tortured by Pakistani authorities during the five months he was detained.

Solicitor Rob Stary — who has represented Thomas since his 2003 capture but could not act for him in the retrial because he could have been called as a witness — said there were mixed emotions after the verdict, because he felt aggrieved about the conduct of the Commonwealth and the Australian Federal Police (AFP) in the case.

He echoed Thomas' former barrister Lex Lasry, QC, who said at the first trial it had to be about more than "securing a trophy in the cabinet of terrorist prosecutions".

"I think the authorities need to be very careful because what's happening in these failed prosecutions, all it does is erode public confidence in the system," Mr Stary said.

He said he laughed out loud when prosecutor Richard Maidment, SC, suggested during a bail application by Thomas that al-Qaeda was a well-resourced organisation that could help him bust out of Barwon Prison.

"That's the sort of … hysteria we've had to contend with," he said. "That's why we gave the Four Corners interview. We had to get out … a picture of Jack Thomas that represented more truly what he was like."

The retrial, based on media interviews given freely by Thomas and published after his first trial, raised important issues for journalism.

Sally Neighbour, whose Four Corners interview with Thomas formed most of the evidence against him, said the experience had made her acutely aware of the potential legal consequences of her work.

"It was extremely discomforting to have my story used as the basis for Jack Thomas' retrial, particularly given that the authorities had failed to obtain a lawful conviction using conventional means," she said.

"… The Crown only relied on the Four Corners interview because the AFP's own interview with Thomas in Pakistan was ruled inadmissible and 'contrary to Australian law'."

Jim Kennan, SC, who acted for Thomas in the retrial, said Thomas and his family intended to quietly celebrate the "satisfactory and inevitable conclusion" of their ordeal.

"He has been acquitted of all terrorist-related charges and obviously that's a matter of great satisfaction to him," he said.

Mr Stary thought Thomas, who suffered a breakdown in his high-security prison cell in 2006, would never recover from the past six years.

It remains to be seen whether prosecutors will appeal. Asked whether his client intended to give any public response to the verdict, Mr Kennan's response was a firm "No".

THOMAS' LONG WALK TO FREEDOM

¦March 23, 2001 Travels to Pakistan with wife and daughter.

¦April 2001 Enters military training camp in Afghanistan to prepare to fight for the Taliban.

¦Nov 19, 2001 Thomas's wife and daughter flee to Pakistan as Taliban collapses. He remains briefly in Afghanistan, then goes into hiding in Pakistan.

¦January 4, 2003 Detained at Karachi Airport as he prepares to return to Australia.

¦June 6, 2003 After five months in custody without charge, Thomas returns to Australia

¦November 18, 2004 Arrested at his Werribee home and charged with terrorism-related offences.

¦February 10, 2006 Found guilty of receiving funds from a terrorist organisation and possessing a false passport. Cleared of providing resources to a terrorist organisation.

¦February 27, 2006 Four Corners airs interview with Thomas about Pakistan and Afghanistan.

¦August 18, 2006 Court of Appeal quashes Thomas' convictions, ruling that police interview was inadmissible.

¦December 20, 2006 Court of Appeal approves an application by the DPP for a retrial based on the Four Corners interview.

¦June 16, 2008 Court of Appeal rejects challenge to the retrial.

¦October 23, 2008 Thomas cleared of receiving funds from a terrorist organisation, convicted of possessing a falsified passport.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/jack- ... -57h3.html
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A shameful acceptance
Indian offer of a paltry $5 million in flood aid after India had not got an immediate response from Pakistan, and then moved the heavy guns
Shah Mahmood Qureshi announced the acceptance of the offer on Friday, apparently in obedience to the USA...Thus the USA has revealed that it is behind the Indian offer, even though it is just a twelfth of the USA’s addition to its own commitment.
and then it goes on about this conspiracy and that conspiracy.
This lady is completely out of her phuking mind.
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US pressures Japan into helping:

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... stan-jd-03
Foreign Minister Katsuya Okada told reporters on Thursday that the United States had “unofficially” asked Japan to provide assistance to Pakistan.
A naval transport ship and six air force C-130 transport planes are set to carry the {six} helicopters and the unit's equipment to Pakistan, the ministry said.

A total of 530 Japanese ground, air and naval troops will be mobilised for the relief mission.
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jamwal wrote:Silly question follows, pardon me for my ignorance.

Going by maps and pictures, majority of flooded areas lie in plains and water level doesn't seem to be too high. At worse it looks like the river or canal got too much water and flooded the land around it's banks. In this case, only the sparsely populated low-lying land/farms near river banks should be seriously flooded while areas further should be relatively safe with minor to severe water logging problem at worst. So how come everybody is claiming that 20% of that country is flooded ? Is there enough water to cover so big a land mass ?
Not at all a silly question sir, you have every right to ask since your tax money is being donated to p0rn1stan. Check out Leh Flood pictures and see the damage. ~150 died even when Leh does not have that high density population (1.4 persons per sq km). When a country of size pakistan claims its 1/5th land is under water then one should expect phenomenal damage. But all pictures from pakistan are shallow lake like still water and hardly 1-2 houses in the background. Most of images are close-up dramatic photography. Not enough aerial view to assess the actual damage.
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So how come everybody is claiming that 20% of that country is flooded ? Is there enough water to cover so big a land mass ?
This was my pooch too. Given that it is the Indus that is flooded, the 20% of Bakistan that is claimed flooded should be mostly Pakjab and Sindh and some southern Balochistan?

What exactly is happening there? Did the monsoon dump 200% of its usual rainfall? Did unmentionable quarters, say, decide to give TSP the water that they had been :(( for???

How can a pretty usual monsoon result in such a catastrophe, and that too in a place that has been in 100-year drought mode for the past 5 years?

Something stinks of pakistan.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20

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I am wondering if America is trying to get a much deeper GUBO from Pakistan by introducing foreign forces incrementally, the benign and uncontroversial ones in the beginning, and using humanitarian aid for flood victims as a pretext.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20

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enqyoob wrote: What exactly is happening there? Did the monsoon dump 200% of its usual rainfall? Did unmentionable quarters, say, decide to give TSP the water that they had been :(( for???

How can a pretty usual monsoon result in such a catastrophe, and that too in a place that has been in 100-year drought mode for the past 5 years?

Something stinks of pakistan.
oh didnt you listen to this theory?? India releases 18000 cusec water in Ravi: Flood warning issued
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20

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Actually, seeing pictures of Laddakh floods and hearing eye witness accounts made me compare these two. Floods in Laddakh were sudden due to cloud burst and most casualties were due to houses collapsing under the high flow of water and boulders in a single night.
But what's the deal in Pakistan ? They've had ample warnings, a well developed network of canals and a flat terrain (in most areas) which wouldn't allow massive and widespread damage due to water as Pakis are claiming. That too within days of them crying about the biggest drought in years ? All these claims of widespread damage and maps showing such vast areas covered in water seem to be typical Paki lies only.
I can agree about crops being destroyed, some of poultry and cattle dying but not damage worth trillions as they are claiming. We had almost similar floods in Punjab this year. Never heard of such kind of destruction.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20

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Raghavendra wrote:
SSridhar wrote:BijuShet, thanks. I have seen both references. I still do not have info on when this guy was arrested, the exact date.
Name is slightly different but this must be the guy, detained on January 4, 2003 at karachi airport.

Jack Thomas goes free after six-year battle against terrorism charges
Many thanks yet again, Raghavendra. Yes, he is the guy. It is remarkable how he walked out to freedom after admitting to joining a Osama-run terror camp, fighting as part of Al Qaeda, getting cash & plane tickets from Al Qaeda, staying in Al Qaeda's safe houses in Karachi for several months etc. He possibly escaped because he was a white.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20

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Katoora with blackmail
ISLAMABAD: The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government on Friday expressed fears that militants and Al Qaeda-linked terrorists would be the ultimate beneficiary if the international community failed to rush its assistance in time.

The province put its demand at $3 billion for reconstruction and rehabilitation of flood-affected people in the province and sought Rs25 billion as a preliminary amount for immediate relief for flood victims.

The organisers termed the event ‘successful’, but they did not disclose the amounts pledged.
Well that's how PIGS ask for help and Amirkhans would certainly listen.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20

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UN blames Pakistanis as cause of flood they are facing
GENEVA: The UN disaster prevention agency said Friday that communities should have been kept away from flood-exposed river banks in Pakistan, as it underlined the human hand in a string of catastrophes.

“If people had not settled on the river banks, definitely the disaster would have been less, because that is the main cause of the disaster,” said Salvano Briceno, director of the UN's International Strategy for Disaster Reduction.

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The UN official noted that the South Asian country confronted annual monsoons rains, faced added melting from Himalayan glaciers with global warming and disruptive shifts in weather patterns.

“There are clearly, from nature's perspective, some aggravating factors. But the reality is that those river banks should never have been (open) for people to settle on,” Briceno said, calling it a known risk.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 20

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SSridhar wrote:
Raghavendra wrote:BijuShet, thanks. I have seen both references. I still do not have info on when this guy was arrested, the exact date.
Name is slightly different but this must be the guy, detained on January 4, 2003 at karachi airport.

Jack Thomas goes free after six-year battle against terrorism charges
Many thanks yet again, Raghavendra. Yes, he is the guy. It is remarkable how he walked out to freedom after admitting to joining a Osama-run terror camp, fighting as part of Al Qaeda, getting cash & plane tickets from Al Qaeda, staying in Al Qaeda's safe houses in Karachi for several months etc. He possibly escaped because he was a white.[/quote]

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