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DUBAI/ISLAMABAD: At least three PIA aircraft were damaged in the Sunday night terrorist attack, including a Boeing-777, an Airbus-310 and a Jumbo 747, which could seriously hamper PIA operations but more serious questions are being raised about dozens of workers who were allowed access without security clearance.
The damage to the aircraft was confirmed by the Interior Minister Choudhry Nisar Ali Khan, but a PIA spokesman insisted that he could not go beyond the claim of the DG ISPR that no damage was done to any aircraft. The extent of the damage was not yet known or confirmed.
But PIA officials in Dubai and Karachi said a rocket attack had dug a hole in a parked 777 in the hangar, which could mean that PIA’s international flights will have to be rescheduled for a long time to come.
The Airbus-310 which is a short-to-medium haul aircraft could also be out of service if damage is serious but the Jumbo 747 was already not in use and was being prepared for the upcoming Haj operation.
While this damage could run into millions of dollars for PIA, the key questions being asked in the aviation industry in Dubai and elsewhere are how a whole army of workers were allowed temporary passes by the ASF to enter the engineering and hangar area without clearance of the intelligence agencies which have offices at the Karachi airport.
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VikasRaina wrote:What if Pakis still fly these damaged planes ?
Can other countries ban such planes owing to the risk that planes may drop off the skies.
Depends on the country. They definitely won't be granted permission to fly such aircraft over most western countries.
DUBAI/ISLAMABAD: At least three PIA aircraft were damaged in the Sunday night terrorist attack, including a Boeing-777, an Airbus-310 and a Jumbo 747, which could seriously hamper PIA operations but more serious questions are being raised about dozens of workers who were allowed access without security clearance.
The damage to the aircraft was confirmed by the Interior Minister Choudhry Nisar Ali Khan, but a PIA spokesman insisted that he could not go beyond the claim of the DG ISPR that no damage was done to any aircraft. The extent of the damage was not yet known or confirmed.
For starters, from the pictures, it looks like the A310 is missing at least one engine. The engine housing is broken and the engine is nowhere to be seen.
But PIA officials in Dubai and Karachi said a rocket attack had dug a hole in a parked 777 in the hangar, which could mean that PIA’s international flights will have to be rescheduled for a long time to come.
Well, I guess that answers the question about exactly what caused the 10 inch holes on the Boeing. From what it sounds like, it appears that this isn't a simple matter of patching some holes. Perhaps there is some interior damage as well.
The Airbus-310 which is a short-to-medium haul aircraft could also be out of service if damage is serious but the Jumbo 747 was already not in use and was being prepared for the upcoming Haj operation.
A destroyed engine is considered pretty serious damage -- that 310 isn't going anywhere any time soon.
n another blatant attack in less than two days exposing ineffective security apparatus, terrorists have attacked Airport Security Force (ASF) academy today after targeting airport a day before, ARY News reported.
Pakistan: Update. Officials clarified Pakistani media reports of renewed fighting at Karachi International Airport this morning. They said the apparent gunshots were explosions from over-heated chemical canisters. Security forces were confused and returned gunfire. The latest body count is 30 dead including ten terrorists.
A Pakistani Taliban spokesman warned that the group will engage in all-out war starting 10 June.
The government has increased security at its nuclear sites in response to this attack.
Comment: The VIP area of the airport was the initial location of the action. Feedback from a Brilliant and highly experienced Reader and news reports confirm that security outside VIP lounges often is light, which makes them a vulnerable point of entry.
One senior Pakistan official said the attack was well planned and organized. The attackers were well armed, but their intelligence about Pakistani airport security apparently underestimated the resilience of the airport security personnel.
This was a sensational and bold attack. For the purposes of unnerving a nation, the attack was a strategic success for the Pakistani Taliban. Still, the outcome could have been much worse for Pakistan. The attackers failed to seize an aircraft; failed to damage any aircraft; inflicted limited casualties and all died. The number of casualties could easily have been much higher had the attackers hijacked an aircraft or reached the main passenger terminal.
Ok, reckon I get why Pak isn't mentioning about the damages. The establishment wants to keep it low so that TTP or the splintered faction doesn't feel too happy about the nights handiwork. But, it does seem like they are just withholding evidence... im spite of all evidence supporting a fair bit of damage to the planes.
However, the shots were just over-heated canisters blowing up? Then how do the terrorists fit in? were they there just to have a night snack and do their prayers and play with the fire hoses?
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A Pakistani Taliban spokesman warned that the group will engage in all-out war starting 10 June.{AoA}
The government has increased security at its nuclear sites in response to this attack.
So, the peace talks are down the drain. Both sides wanted some breather and they had a brief R&R. The TSPA has been claiming that it has been itching to have a go at the purer Muslims for the last 8 months but have been restrained. Now is the time to show their bravery by flattening empty mud houses with F-16 and demanding more of these planes, AMRAAMs, Paveways etc. from the US.
Security forces are engaged in a gun battle at the Airport Security Force (ASF) camp number 2, which is located at the ASF academy in Bitai Abad, Pehlwan Goth in Karachi.
Heavy firing was reported at the ASF camp in the metropolis on Tuesday after four unidentified men entered the premises.
DawnNews reported that sounds of explosions were also heard, causing panic among citizens in the vicinity.
The camp is situated near the Jinnah International Airport which the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) had cleared on Monday after a long battle between security forces and terrorists left 28 dead.
A Twitter account allegedly operated by Omar Khorasani of the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Mohmand faction tweeted on Tuesday that the group has carried out this second attack.
The Twitter account of the CAA, @AirportPakistan also tweeted that EK 606 from Dubai which was expected to arrive at Karachi airport at 12:50pm is now returning to Dubai.
Roads leading to the airport have been cordoned off as the standoff between security forces and terrorists persists.
I attribute the second attack directly to that 'senior Pakistani official' who said bravely that the Taliban "apparently underestimated the resilience of the airport security personnel" {See the NightWatch report posted above by vijaykarthik}
Call it Karma. To favor Bakis, Barkha gave real time location of hostages and troop arrival on live TV (26/11). Inspired by that, Paki TVwalahs went a step ahead and interviewing militants. Wait a minute, I may be wrong, they are just scoring brownie points with future Paki rulers.
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1.51 pm: Nawaz Sharif orders action against militants Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has ordered action against the militants and control the situation , ARY news reported. Terrorists are allegedly hiding inside the ASF Acedemy to retaliate against security forces. The ASF Acedemy has three gates and terrorists have attacked the facility from a ‘Lady Hostel’ gate.
Uh oh, firm orders have been issued to take action ( which wasnt being taken till now)!!
Seems like some big target exists inside the airport. It was also interesting that the terrorists didn't try to enter the aircrafts. Its not the aircraft hijacking that is planned but some strategic maal. But why it is kept in a civilian airport
Some mod was asking the other day whether one mod had banned another... Well, Anujan is forcing me into a corner here and may have to set a precedent - for that pic of the horrible hag whose name I refuse to type!!!
Could it be that 2 different set of Mujhahidins sort of mixed up their dates.
Sunday night, it was TTP (Chechan, Uzbek) faction that wanted to remove old and new Hajj terminal differentiation and make them one and today it is TTP 9 Mashud) faction that wants to
grab the MAAL-e-ganimat lying in cold storage.
Pakistan's version of Barkha Dutt, known as Darkha Butt, is tweeting locations for vacations from the ASF checkpoint, while negotiating with the terrorists holed up in Wrestler Goth for a Greco-Roman bout... after the operation is finished.
karachi has 2 terminals ...the new one..old one. the old one was attacked...like u have terminal 1 and 3 in delhi..both are called IGI airport..both use the same airstrip but are 2 different terminals... so if terminal 1 was attacked...operations have resumed from terminal 3!!
Sindh Information Minister Sharjeel Memon on Tuesday said that firing near ASF academy is not a major incident. Terrorists only opened aerial fire and fled from the scene.
symontk wrote:Seems like some big target exists inside the airport. It was also interesting that the terrorists didn't try to enter the aircrafts. Its not the aircraft hijacking that is planned but some strategic maal. But why it is kept in a civilian airport
Just my thoughts
Strange enough, a cargo building is also their prime target.
omar r quraishi @omar_quraishi: A view of the charred remains of a cargo building at Karachi airport via @TangleReality pic.twitter.com/xIkMaZBuSG
A Pakistani Taliban spokesman warned that the group will engage in all-out war starting 10 June.{AoA}
The government has increased security at its nuclear sites in response to this attack.
So, the peace talks are down the drain. Both sides wanted some breather and they had a brief R&R. The TSPA has been claiming that it has been itching to have a go at the purer Muslims for the last 8 months but have been restrained. Now is the time to show their bravery by flattening empty mud houses with F-16 and demanding more of these planes, AMRAAMs, Paveways etc. from the US.
If there were no such incidents every now and then, and I assume these happen by mutual agreement, how would the Talibanis seek new Momeen mard recruits and Pakistani Army have some reason to go and beg in front of USA for more dual-use weaponry!
This is just part of the business model of the two.
The 310 is a write off. Wont even do cargo after this. The 777 probably was hit worst, it and the hanger are probably in a bit of a fix. Even if the 777 is repaired, it means repair on site. Your call is better than mine on when that might hapoen. The 747 was hajj only to begin with, it may well be repaired at some point if they can find someone to do the repairs and the rest of the plane is not damaged.
Total civilian fleet (all types) is around 60, with age/domestic only types/banned from europe etc, there are only 10ish. This is 3/60 aand 1/10, and the airport now mainly a domestic+gulf only event. Only Thai, Turkish, PIA flew anywhere except middle-east before. Now they may have to do with just gulf and PIA.
The count of dead keeps rising too. Not a minor event, when the details come out it will be an improvement over mehran and no one is replacing the traffic even if they buy the planes again.
An honest asessment and disclosure of damage and weaknesses is needed. Wont happen. This is the third event, lets see where the fourth takes place. Also wonder who will be blamed. There are already fingers being pointed at ISI.
Deputy Director General ASK, Colonel Tahir Ali said there were no casualties in the new attack. He also said the the airport is secure at that operations have resumed. He said that two attackers opened fire near the ladies hostel near D gate
Do you remember your salad days Mauleners? Driving three to a bike on the streets of Lucknow (Tamil Nadu) or Meerut (Kerala) in the evenings, opening mijjile phyrr near the ladies hostel gate?
As Deputy Director General ASK, Colonel Tahir Ali, aka Parsuram Chowkidar, chased you away with his bamboo lathi?
It is imported and distributed by a local company!!! So it obviously make sense that it is in use among the locals, given that bloodshed is quite frequent amongst them, for religious reasons obviously. I'm not sure why they are blaming India. CIPLA is a private company. AJ Mirza Pharma is a private company. It's normal business.
No way CIPLA, let alone India, can be held responsible for whom AJ Mirza Pharma sells it to, and for all we know they sold it to a retailer then went and sold it to Abdul XYZ who popped up demanding n bottles of Factor 8 or whatever this crap is because Assholes in Village 1 wanted to shoot up Assholes in Village 2...
when 10 men armed with assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades fought their way through two entrances to the airport.
What is with the TSP fascination for a 10 man team? Does the Islamic counting system end with the number 10?
Before they sent 10 phreedom phyters to Mumbai. Now 10 freedom fighters are trying to liberate KIA!
They have to take off their shoes to count beyond 10. I shudder to think about 21.
