Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 09, 2010

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 21 Aug 2010 20:45

chaanakya wrote:UN blames Pakistanis as cause of flood they are facing

Lungi. Thin legs. SDRE

These are the people whom Pakis deny

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 21 Aug 2010 21:10

Ermm.. What kind of diarrhea can turn a martial TFTA into a SDRE ?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 21 Aug 2010 21:23

Whats absolutely amazing is the attitude of tallel than mountans twords TSP. I wonder if there has been any criticism of tallel in the TSP vernacular media?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Aug 2010 21:45

enqyoob wrote: What exactly is happening there? Did the monsoon dump 200% of its usual rainfall?

Yes.

In Khanpur, in Pakistan's Sindh district, for example, the average rainfall is 17.4mm for the whole month of August. So far, 255mm has fallen in 12 days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10951517

The map in the article shows areas where upto 24mm a day above normal fell for 10 days.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 21 Aug 2010 21:48

NASA images
click on the individual images which is very revealing-

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 21 Aug 2010 21:50

Officials: US drones kill 6 in northwest Pakistan
By RASOOL DAWAR (AP) – 23 minutes ago

MIR ALI, Pakistan — Suspected U.S. missiles fired from an unmanned drone killed six militants Saturday in a Pakistani tribal region near the Afghan border, officials said.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Aug 2010 21:51

Pakistan Meteorological Dept:
Mean annual rainfall:
http://www.pakmet.com.pk/cdpc/Pakistan_ ... infall.pdf

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 21 Aug 2010 21:53

Attempts to Tame Indus River Contributed to Disaster in Pakistan, Expert Says

Pakistan floods: why the fertile Indus river is so prone to flooding

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 21 Aug 2010 21:56

jamwal wrote:Ermm.. What kind of diarrhea can turn a martial TFTA into a SDRE ?

Delusionobacteriae Grandeurae

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Aug 2010 21:59

August 1-10 saw heavy rainfall in Pakistan (e.g., see the NASA maps referred to above). This was on top of a record July.

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Percentage Departure from Normal (1961-1990)
Region          July   August*  September       JUL-SEP*
Pakistan        70.5    63.4    ---             43.3
Khyber-PK      179.1    43.5    ---             78.2
Punjab          57.1    62.5    ---             36.8
Balochistan     20.0    36.0    ---             11.6
Sindh           33.5    110.6   ---             46.2 
* Statistics based on data upto  20th August

http://www.pakmet.com.pk/cdpc/prg/monso ... ogress.htm

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 21 Aug 2010 22:04

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 21 Aug 2010 22:09

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 010_pg7_17

Thursday, August 19, 2010

Pakistan ‘deserves’ $53 billion foreign debt write-off

By Raja Riaz

LAHORE: At a time when Pakistan faces challenges such as terrorism and devastating floods, international financial institutions and donor countries should step forward and write off the country’s massive $53 billion debt to guarantee the Pakistani people the ‘right to life’.

International laws, the UN charter, ethics and morality all support Pakistan’s case for getting a write-off.

Pakistan can refuse to pay its all external debts on the basis of international laws: ‘the state of necessity’ and ‘the law of illegitimate borrowings’, besides emphasising ‘the right of providing basic necessities’ to its population.

Odious Debt and Illegitimate Debt: The second defence for Pakistan for not paying back its debt is the ‘Odious Debt’ doctrine.

The doctrine was formalised in a 1927 treatise by legal theorist , based upon the 19th Century precedents such as ’s repudiation of debts incurred by the regime, and the denial by the of liability for debts incurred by the .

‘Odious Debt’ doctrine.?

Bull crap.

What about ‘Odious Country’ doctrine???

International Beggars.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Aug 2010 22:11

enqyoob wrote:
So how come everybody is claiming that 20% of that country is flooded ? Is there enough water to cover so big a land mass ?
This was my pooch too. Given that it is the Indus that is flooded, the 20% of Bakistan that is claimed flooded should be mostly Pakjab and Sindh and some southern Balochistan?

What exactly is happening there? Did the monsoon dump 200% of its usual rainfall? Did unmentionable quarters, say, decide to give TSP the water that they had been for???

How can a pretty usual monsoon result in such a catastrophe, and that too in a place that has been in 100-year drought mode for the past 5 years?

Something stinks of pakistan.

There was a press report early on of a southward cold Arctic air stream which split into East and West in the Himalayas and it was this cold air that caused the sudden precipitation in the NWFP region. The same cold wind caused the cloud burst in Leh, PRC and Russia too. There are reports of minor floodinng in Afghanistan too.

So all in all the djinns blew the cold air and caused the flooding as the RAPE was not pious enough.

Above per Djinn theory of physiks.

Could be after few gin and tonics too!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 Aug 2010 22:17

What is Sarmila Bose saying nowadays? If Millam is writing op-eds she cant be too far.

Manny · Post by **Manny** » 21 Aug 2010 22:20

Some Americans feel, since Pakistanies have been pretending to help them, that they too should have pretend compassion and pretend to help the Pakistanies.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 21 Aug 2010 22:23

krisna wrote:NASA images
click on the individual images which is very revealing-

Great images. Flooding can be bucketed in three broad categories
1. Kabul river (and its tributaries) - Peshawar and other KP regions
2. Indus river - Most restricted to areas around the indus except Jacobabad
3. Other tributaries of Indus such as chenab (any idea of the major towns?)

For Indus the flooding is mostly restricted to cities around the river bank. The apparent damage to major cities far flung from the bank like Hyd never came except for Jacobabad perhaps. Pakis are clearly lying when they say 20% of pakistan is under water.

Two things become clear:
1. The flooding came as blessing in disguise for the TSPA and ruling class...the instant cash help as well as restructring of loans will extend their life. Expect Paki ruling class to milk this flood to all its worth in coming 1-2 years. For this period the flooding damage will replace the WOT as the cause why world should let them fail, give more cash and restructure/waive more loans

2. most of the people affected were from villages and are nothing but poor SDRE types. Images from the flooding gives a rare glimpse of the ordinary man in the street who is radically different then the polished and fake accented querishi types.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 21 Aug 2010 22:32

Ban ki moon was taken for a ride by TSPA and ISPR i think during his tour. Can we study the flood here in terms of three categories that I mentioned above, link them to major population centers and expose the paki lie of 20% pakistan under water. We should deny pakis every opportunity to use it as base to get more money that will eventually be used against India and the world.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 21 Aug 2010 23:25

enqyoob wrote: What exactly is happening there? Did the monsoon dump 200% of its usual rainfall? Did unmentionable quarters, say, decide to give TSP the water that they had been for???

How can a pretty usual monsoon result in such a catastrophe, and that too in a place that has been in 100-year drought mode for the past 5 years?

Something stinks of pakistan.

abhijitm wrote:oh didnt you listen to this theory?? India releases 18000 cusec water in Ravi: Flood warning issued

There have also been haphazard and intentional release of water and canal breaches which has added to the misery. Basically the RAPEs have released water, breached canals to protect their land at the cost of the unwashed.

Pak army stages flood coup

The Pakistan Army took control of the Sukkur Barrage on Monday night as politicians and cabinet ministers squabbled over making a breach in the side canals in a bid to protect major towns in the province from the advancing floods. The move came after a federal minister refused to allow the breach as the water that would be discharged would inundate parts of his constituency.

Minister tasked with saving US airbase at the cost of the displacement of thousands

The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) alleged that the presence of Pakistan army personnel speaks to the fact that the breach of Jamali bypass was intentional and ordered from above.

Politicians Letting People Drown to Save Their Lands

If the barrage breaches, all major districts of Sindh, including Sukkur, Khairpur, Nawabshah , Sangar, Dadu and Hyderabad will witness flooding.
The only way to save the barrage is to make a breach in the Ali Wahan canal, said observers. On Sunday night, irrigation authorities were planning to break the embankment of Ali Wahan to reduce pressure on Sukkur Barrage, but were stopped by the area residents.
They said that this act would immediately flood the area that is the constituency of Labour and Manpower Minister Khursheed Shah. Sources say that there’s been a deadlock in the government circles about what to do next as there was no other but to make a cut in the canal “for the greater good of Sindh.”

Even in normal times the Khakhis manipulate water flow to irrigate their lands. There was a story some time back in TFT about a Jernail purchasing huge tracts of barren land for pittance and then actually extending a canal to irrigate it and making millions!! During the 2005 earthquake, initial "relief" effort mounted by the army, in fact supplied tents and food to their own units which suffered causalities.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 21 Aug 2010 23:25

Pakistan population density and geographical areas
Pakistan is divided into three major geographic areas: the northern highlands; the Indus River plain, with two major subdivisions corresponding roughly to the provinces of Punjab and Sindh; and the Balochistan Plateau. the country may conveniently be visualized in general terms as divided in three by an imaginary line drawn eastward from the Khyber Pass and another drawn southwest from Islamabad down the middle of the country. Roughly, then, the northern highlands are north of the imaginary east-west line; the Balochistan Plateau is to the west of the imaginary southwest line; and the Indus Plain lies to the east of that line Source Wikipedia

The Indus River’s drainage basin exceeds 1,165,000 square kilometers (450,000 square miles); most of it is in Pakistan. (approximately 70- 75%~315000 )
Pakistan size = 340,403 sq miles (803,940 km)
1) The upper Indus river system is in Tibet/India (Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh) and Northern plains of Pakistan (see image)
Catchment area is glaciers and monsoon rains.

2) As it enters the Punjab plain in Pakistan, the Indus becomes sluggish and winding. From the Punjab southward the river traverses desert and semidesert land, including the Thal and Thar deserts. (Indus plain-see image)
Hyderabad, near the delta, is the largest city on the river Indus.

3) Indus River system is one of the largest irrigated systems in the world. Population is around 170- 200millions.

Indus water treaty allocated the waters of the Indus, Jhelum, and Chenab to Pakistan(western rivers) and the waters of the Sutlej, Beas, and Ravi(eastern rivers) to India.

4) Indus River System in Pakistan comprises five main rivers, namely the Indus, Jhelum, Chenab, Ravi and Sutlej;(sapta sindhu= Indus + above 5 rivers(incl Beas) and kabul river)
Aided by a number of smaller rivers (Kabul, Swat, Haro, Kunhar, Chitral, Tochi, Shah Alam, Naguman, Adezai, Soan etc) and streams/Nullahs.
These five rivers supply water to the entire Indus Basin Irrigation System;

Tarbela dam provides water for about 50% of the irrigated lands in Pakistan. It is at the borders of Punjab and Khyber Pakthunwa.
monsoon season between July-september and Jhelum river is more commonly affected by floods.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 21 Aug 2010 23:54

This constant exchange of boxes of mangoes....

Are these two lovebirds actually sending each other some sinister messages al la zia??

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_yu ... es_1426370

Yusuf Raza Gilani sends thanks Manmohan Singh for flood aid with mangoes
Published: Friday, Aug 20, 2010, 22:10 IST
Place: New Delhi | Agency: PTI

Responding to India's aid to flood-hit people in his country, Pakistan prime minister Yusuf Raza Gilani today sent five boxes of mangoes to prime minister Manmohan Singh as a gesture of gratitude.

The prime minister's office received five boxes of mangoes from the prime minister of Pakistan, a PMO spokesperson said here.

Earlier in the day, Pakistan had accepted India's offer of $5 million in aid for flood relief in the country.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 21 Aug 2010 23:56

1 million a box, hain ji? I hope they atleast put some fauji foundation maal in it hidden within the mango seeds.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 22 Aug 2010 00:11

enqoob: Regarding your pooch, did you notice:

Rush of Floodwaters (700,000 cubic feet per second) Threatens Southern Pakistan

Now, that is about 10 times the (average) flow of Niagara falls!

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 22 Aug 2010 00:37

Hari Seldon wrote: .. Like a wise buzurg once said:
Give a man a fish - you've helped him for a day. Teach him how to fish - you've helped him for a lifetime.

I think the full theorem is:

Give a man a fish - you've helped feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish - you've helped feed him for a lifetime unless the man is paki - in that case:
1) You still have to feed them for a life time - except for the
2) Paki who was being taught will:
2a) use the fishing pole to throw fecal matter and dead fish at you (and all other Indians)
2 b) will die due to suicide west or at the other end of police bullet.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 22 Aug 2010 00:57

Karachi police rob flood donation

KARACHI: Five policemen have been held who robbed flood donation from Lyari, SAMAA reported Saturday.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 22 Aug 2010 00:58

chetak wrote:http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 010_pg7_17
‘Odious Debt’ doctrine.?
Bull crap.
What about ‘Odious Country’ doctrine???
International Beggars.

Arre Chetakji,
Kaheko bigadte ho?
It is like this only. Allah allows this type of disasters to happen in Pureland just to give the Kaffir Govermunds a chance to help out and earn merit. The Jernails and the Kernails return the favour by appropriating the aid money and investing them in their own accounts in Western Banks that helps Western Ekhanomies. Both sides are khush. The mango pukes are promised their rewards in the hereafter in Jannat. So, they are khush too! The Tarrel Friends know of this balance and wisely keep out of it. Bharat should do the same and not start Gandhigiri in the neighbourhood.
Gautam

Mauli · Post by **Mauli** » 22 Aug 2010 00:59

Let Pakistan stew in its own juice
Swapan Dasgupta

Pakistan has emerged as the world’s most deft blackmail state. Now blessed with nuclear weapons and a quiet but unbreakable alliance with China, it is smiling all the way to the bank. Floods or earthquakes, democracy or dictatorship, LeT or AQ Khan, Pakistan has got away with murder because it knows exactly how to threaten and how to extort. This may be why those noble souls in the West who donated so generously for tsunami relief and for the victims of the earthquake in Haiti have suddenly become tight-fisted over Pakistan. And it is this ‘image deficit’ which prompted Pakistan to even accept the $5 million offered by India, a generous sum considering that China — now the world’s second largest economy — has donated only $7.2 million. Recall that when India offered a larger sum in 2005 for the victims of the earthquake, Pakistan left the gift unopened.

India’s liberal chatterati say that we should be honoured and flattered that Pakistan accepted our donation. They say we should give more. For what? Must the guns to be deployed in the next terror attack be paid for by the Indian taxpayer?

http://www.dailypioneer.com/277811/Let- ... juice.html

Donor fatigue? Or Pakistan fatigue?
Kanchan Gupta

Mosharraf Zaidi, a Pakistani strategic affairs analyst, laments, “Nearly three weeks since the floods began, aid is trickling in slowly and reluctantly to the United Nations, NGOs, and the Pakistani Government... After the Haiti earthquake, about 3.1 million Americans using mobile phones donated $10 each to the Red Cross, raising about $31 million. A similar campaign to raise contributions for Pakistan produced only about $10,000. The amount of funding donated per person affected by the 2004 tsunami was $1,249.80, and for the 2010 Haiti earthquake, $1,087.33. Even for the Pakistan earthquake of 2005, funding per affected person was $388.33. Thus far, for those affected by the 2010 floods, it is $16.36 per person.”

So what’s gone wrong? Is it simply donor fatigue? Or is it Pakistan specific? It may sound insensitive to say so at this point of time, but possibly Governments and people feel indifferent to the plight of Pakistanis not because they are undeserving of charity but because of the Pakistani state which is seen as undeserving of sympathy. Over the years, more so in recent times, the Pakistani state has come to be seen as a criminal enterprise run by its jihad-promoting military-ISI complex, its political leaders corrupt and given to speaking with a forked tongue.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/277657/Dono ... tigue.html

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 22 Aug 2010 01:01

Warlord behind Moscow blasts killed by Russian security forces

Moscow, Aug 21 (PTI) In a major success, Russian security forces today gunned down a top militant, trained in Pakistan, said to be the mastermind of the March suicide bombings on Moscow metro.

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CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 22 Aug 2010 01:04

The Indus River’s drainage basin exceeds 1,165,000 square kilometers (450,000 square miles); most of it is in Pakistan. (approximately 70- 75%~315000 ) Pakistan size = 340,403 sq miles (803,940 km)

madarassa maths in the calculations? as per the calculations >90% of pakis overall area is part of Indus river basin (315K/340K)

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 22 Aug 2010 01:09

Foreign militants killed preparing bombs in Somalia

“They are three Pakistanis, two Indians, one Afghani, one Algerian, and two Somalis, (and) a leader who was in charge of praying for suicide bombers before they were dispatched,” the ministry said in a statement.

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 22 Aug 2010 01:14

http://earthtrends.wri.org/maps_spatial ... 55&theme=2

here is another map which provides major population centers around Indus river...the only prominent one that was affected seems to be Jacobabad. Rest of the major cities are too far from the river except Hyderabad in sindh which IMO was not affected.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 22 Aug 2010 01:32

CalvinH wrote:
The Indus River’s drainage basin exceeds 1,165,000 square kilometers (450,000 square miles); most of it is in Pakistan. (approximately 70- 75%~315000 ) Pakistan size = 340,403 sq miles (803,940 km)
madarassa maths in the calculations? as per the calculations >90% of pakis overall area is part of Indus river basin (315K/340K)

>90% of paki population is more or less related to the Indus river system. look at the map of paki population and geographical areas above in this page.
Indus drainage area include India around ~20-25%.
Indus river system involves Tibet/India/Afghanisthan and Tibet.
I got it from internet with one of them -- wikipedia.
maybe madrassa math overall

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 22 Aug 2010 02:02

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/f ... 931886.stm

t seems the land has ripped out its entrails and thrown them out for all of us to see.
These people do not live in picturesque valleys where city folk go on holiday.

One man tied a chicken round his neck when he had to swim to higher ground
These areas are of no strategic interest to anyone because they have neither exported terrorism nor do they have the ambition to join a fight against it.
Their only export to the world outside is onions, tomatoes, sugar cane, wheat and mangoes.
The word terrorism does not even exist in Seraiki and Sindhi, the languages of the majority of the people who have been rendered homeless.
They belong to that forgotten part of humanity that has quietly tilled the land for centuries, the small farmers, the peasants, the farmhands, generations of people who are born and work and die on the same small piece of land.
And this time there are 20 million of them.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 22 Aug 2010 02:59

Google shows POK in Pakistan, Govt issues notice

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 22 Aug 2010 03:20

Released Pakistani prisoner Mohammed Asif (C) is escorted by Indian policemen as he heads to the India-Pakistan Wagah Border in India's northwestern state of Punjab on August 18, 2010. Pakistanis Mohammed Asif and Haji Iqbal, who served eight years in prison for aiding a bank robbery to fund the 1999 Kandahar hijack of an Indian Airlines flight, were among 28 Pakistani nationals released by India in a goodwill gesture.

archan · Post by **archan** » 22 Aug 2010 04:08

One wonders what kind of "goodwill" GoI expects from Pukistan. Animals such as these are wasting oxygen of this world and should have met their maker long ago. But no...

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 22 Aug 2010 04:16

To borrow from Churchill,

Never in the field of human existence have so many people been shamelessly blackmailed by so few

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 22 Aug 2010 05:05

Mahendra wrote:
jamwal wrote:Ermm.. What kind of diarrhea can turn a martial TFTA into a SDRE ?
Delusionobacteriae Grandeurae

er - the correct spelling is Delusionobacteriae Gandurae

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 22 Aug 2010 05:07

Do I see a Kara on his right arm?

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 22 Aug 2010 05:34

^^ notice long hairs too....seems like he became a sikh in Jail. A paki can do that ...its in the genes....

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 22 Aug 2010 05:37

pgbhat wrote:
Released Pakistani prisoner Mohammed Asif (C) is escorted by Indian policemen as he heads to the India-Pakistan Wagah Border in India's northwestern state of Punjab on August 18, 2010. Pakistanis Mohammed Asif and Haji Iqbal, who served eight years in prison for aiding a bank robbery to fund the 1999 Kandahar hijack of an Indian Airlines flight, were among 28 Pakistani nationals released by India in a goodwill gesture.

Unbelievable! Just unbelievable! I dont think Ajmal Kasab will ever be executed either,forget about his execution in all probabilities he will be released as a 'goodwill gesture' by our spineless,corrupt politicians within the next 10 years. Did anyone see the latest pics of Abu Salem? The guy looks much better now than he did when he was apprehended. There is a 99% chance that someday in near future he will get out of 'Hotel Arthur Plaza', and will probably get a Samata/RJD/BSP ticket to contest elections or will end up being a part of some brainless 'reality' tv show just like his bit*h!