Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 10 Jun 2014 15:44

Mashalla those are gorygeous pictures.

Are we sure that FB guy is spraying water in the right place?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 10 Jun 2014 15:45

Folks - there was another attack in progress an hour ago. Thought you guys would have caught it here. No?

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new ... 27943.aspx

The second attack on Pakistan's Karachi airport in as many days ended on Tuesday without casualties, officials said, but with the escape of the two gunmen involved.

"It was not such a big attack, two people came towards the ASF (Airport Security Force) checkpost and started firing," colonel Tahir Ali, a spokesman for the force told reporters. "Nobody has been killed or injured," he added.

The outlawed Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) claimed responsibility for the second attack by its men on the airport.

Army spokesman major general Asim Bajwa confirmed the incident was over, but said three to four assailants were involved.

"Three-four terrorists fired near ASF camp, ran away. No breach of fence, no entry. Chase is on, situation under control," he tweeted.

The attack occurred at around 12.30pm (0730 GMT) at a checkpost guarding the entry to an ASF camp 500 metres (yards) from the airport's main premises, and around a kilometre from the passenger terminal.

Ali said the attackers "ran away after shooting and because we are on high alert, under the standard operating procedure we called in (paramilitary) rangers and the army".

- See more at: http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new ... 9ERuw.dpuf

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 10 Jun 2014 15:47

Hang on.

Structure in the 3rd picture is there in the 2nd too.
Did they move those planes? Those planes are intact?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 10 Jun 2014 15:48

vdutta wrote:

Apparently 78 people liked this photo. Amazing! I wonder what the other ten photos show?

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 10 Jun 2014 16:07

James B wrote:quote="Anujan"

Also you cant make this up

@RadioPakistan CCTV excerpts showed that the heavily armed ten terrorists had long height and fair in colour: Ch Nisar #NA_Session
When did 'taller' become 'long height'? Pakis & their pinglish

Well someone should have made a marriage offer then, if they are TFTA, should have ended all enmity right there.

shiv -- the last event was just a confused marriage celebration, no atrack. they ran away when they realized the wrong venue.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 10 Jun 2014 16:20

PIA was in deep trouble acc. to this report last week
They have a fleet of 35 aircraft of which 9 were unserviceable.
Recent attacks report 3 aircraft damaged. 1/3 of the fleet is dead.
But

Five 777s are due in coming weeks, along with 11 leased A320s for domestic and medium routes, which will begin arriving in July.

Who in their right mind would insure these aircraft?

Also, from that article - Roosevelt hotel in Manhattan & Scribe in Paris belong to PIA.

symontk · Post by **symontk** » 10 Jun 2014 17:04

maybe the plan was to send the maal to SA using the Hajj flights

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 10 Jun 2014 17:21

Looks like another day for ISI/Paki Army onlee. Inside job. Isnt it all the time in Pakistan?

vijaykarthik · Post by **vijaykarthik** » 10 Jun 2014 17:23

Neela wrote:PIA was in deep trouble acc. to this report last week
They have a fleet of 35 aircraft of which 9 were unserviceable.
Recent attacks report 3 aircraft damaged. 1/3 of the fleet is dead.
But
Five 777s are due in coming weeks, along with 11 leased A320s for domestic and medium routes, which will begin arriving in July.

Who in their right mind would insure these aircraft?

Also, from that article - Roosevelt hotel in Manhattan & Scribe in Paris belong to PIA.

Airline industry is a weird and very vague one. Most of the planes end up in the airline company only for a few days. In a few days, it gets xferred to a holding company which will basically own the planes while the airline companies end up showing the planes as being leased on the books. Atleast that's how it works with India based companies and pretty much world over. So, most insurance companies wont fret much about it. A plane is a plane regardless of who it belongs to.
Or so I would think

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 10 Jun 2014 18:27

second attack? and i suppose the arms had made in israel or usa on them?

i think pakis need to have every attack in triplicate - so it can be blamed on YYY.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 10 Jun 2014 18:31

come to think of it. you never hear usa or israel blamed by the establishment for any of these attacks. they always blame india. that itself is a clue on their 'india is our no.1 enemy' thinking.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 10 Jun 2014 18:34

Around the time I was a nanha sekoolar kanphoosed lurker (early 2008) there was a massive terror attack on a Western Hotel in Bakistan, I think it was this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad_ ... el_bombing

About a month after that, Bakis exported Kasab and co. to India in a new terror model, which involved few suicide gunmen with a mix of suicide bombers to create mayhem and chaos. Though it achieved an == b/w India and Bakistan, much to the chagrin of the good-jeehardies in Bakistan, that model was then replicated by the Al-keeda Al-xyz African Islamists, TTP (the bad one) in the Mehran Attack and now the Karachi Airport.

If the above is any indication of things to come, then the Baki STFUP uniformed and the non-uniformed will be busy creating a new model of terror to export. Things will be expedited now since there is major echandee loss with such a huge attack on an international landmark in Kraaachi.

Hopefully our security forces are watching this closely and dispatch incoming piglets to their 72 before they cause any mayhem.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 10 Jun 2014 18:45

VikasRaina wrote:What if Pakis still fly these damaged planes ?
Can other countries ban such planes owing to the risk that planes may drop off the skies.

In 1994 (IIRC) they hired local cycle puncture wala to repair the puncture tires of planes. It was a big slap on their H&D when this was discovered. I expat them to hire local denting-penting guy to do the repair job.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Jun 2014 20:25

symontk wrote:maybe the plan was to send the maal to SA using the Hajj flights

Most likely explanation. TTP got wind of clown jewels in KIA and hence the repeat attack and the planes were just driveby casualties.

Means TSPA is on the run. Expect them to either defect to TTP or to USA.
Running away is in their Djinneology.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 10 Jun 2014 20:33

why are the nuke assets in KIA? Are they being shipped out?

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 10 Jun 2014 20:33

LokeshC wrote:Around the time I was a nanha sekoolar kanphoosed lurker (early 2008) there was a massive terror attack on a Western Hotel in Bakistan, I think it was this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamabad_ ... el_bombing

About a month after that, Bakis exported Kasab and co. to India in a new terror model, which involved few suicide gunmen with a mix of suicide bombers to create mayhem and chaos. Though it achieved an == b/w India and Bakistan, much to the chagrin of the good-jeehardies in Bakistan, that model was then replicated by the Al-keeda Al-xyz African Islamists, TTP (the bad one) in the Mehran Attack and now the Karachi Airport.

If the above is any indication of things to come, then the Baki STFUP uniformed and the non-uniformed will be busy creating a new model of terror to export. Things will be expedited now since there is major echandee loss with such a huge attack on an international landmark in Kraaachi.

Hopefully our security forces are watching this closely and dispatch incoming piglets to their 72 before they cause any mayhem.

Lohegaon or Khadki could be targets. There were some IB advisories with regards to Lohegaon a few moons back.

-M

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 10 Jun 2014 20:36

re: maal going to KSA.

But ultimately isn't TTP is controlled by the house of Saud (using Wahabbism). TTP is a social revolution of poor Sunnis, but still under Saudi control. So why would they want to snatch the maal that is going to their four-father?

habal · Post by **habal** » 10 Jun 2014 20:38

If it was maal being sent out to KSA in a civilian aircraft, then maybe it was the Eyeranians behind this mayhem or Unkil or Israel tipped off the taliban through some informant. Also the short response time of the rangers (10 mins) to the spot also shows that they were close by and expecting action.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Jun 2014 20:40

vivek.rao wrote:why are the nuke assets in KIA? Are they being shipped out?

No. Hiding in open is TSP way. Before 9/11 they were hiding in Kabul with the Taliban control.
They shifted them on 9/13 with all those flights to Pindi.

symontk · Post by **symontk** » 10 Jun 2014 22:23

Chinese missiles are paraded in SA, there is no worthwhile missile development in Pakistan apart from Nasr and Babur

reading everything together, there should be new analysis on why Nawaz Sharif readily came to India

It seems maal is not safer in Pakistan so its getting moved. And they can convert maal to Oil with SA which is an attraction

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 10 Jun 2014 23:52

LokeshC wrote:re: maal going to KSA.

But ultimately isn't TTP is controlled by the house of Saud (using Wahabbism). TTP is a social revolution of poor Sunnis, but still under Saudi control. So why would they want to snatch the maal that is going to their four-father?

Not zo zimble. Talibs (including TTP) are Deobandis. There is some alignment between Deobandi and Wahhabi/Salafi/Ahl-e-Hadees tanzeems in terms of Paki politics, anti-YYY activities, kicking TSPA's musharraf etc. but it's largely tactical. The Saudis, with their fine eye for these things, would consider Taliban's ecclesiastical allegiance as primarily to Dar-ul-Uloom Deoband, not to any clerical body controlled from Riyadh. Therefore they wouldn't be trusted by KSA with something as strategically significant as the maal.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 11 Jun 2014 00:27

Attackers didn't attack the dooty phree dukaans selling alcohol. This proves YYY angle.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 11 Jun 2014 01:34

I think kacha limbu's were sent for this mission. 10 of them and all they could manage was to set a few fires around the terminal. The subsequent attacks on the training facility also proves this point. Where are the professionals the likes of which did the Mariott bombing in Isloo. Have they been bought out by teams focused on India ?

-M

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 11 Jun 2014 01:40

Cosmo_R wrote:
They have to take off their shoes to count beyond 10. I shudder to think about 21.

21 is a holy number for Islamics. Other numbers that add up to 21 also are, like 786 for example.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 11 Jun 2014 02:17

Mihaylo wrote:I think kacha limbu's were sent for this mission. 10 of them and all they could manage was to set a few fires around the terminal. The subsequent attacks on the training facility also proves this point. Where are the professionals the likes of which did the Mariott bombing in Isloo. Have they been bought out by teams focused on India ?

-M

Er... Didn't the Marriot in Slumbad embrace shadat due to high vacuum bulb explosions?

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 11 Jun 2014 02:24

http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/22644 ... amn-fault/

Per above blog, maybe the truth slipped out about number of aircraft damaged, as opposed to the blather dished out by ISPR. Shahid Masood tweeted 8 aircrafts were the recepients of shariah punishments. Looking at the pictures of mayhem, seems very possible.

Shaashtanga · Post by **Shaashtanga** » 11 Jun 2014 02:32

Does anybody have any clue as to why has Ms.Unfair become so Anti-Pak-Army-Establishment?

This vid gives some nice insights on how the PakArmy used the US counter insurgency material to mastermind its own ops in Cashmere-

"Fighting to the End: The Pakistan Army's Way of War"

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 11 Jun 2014 02:59

I'm almost certain one or more of the afsars tried to get cosy... Perhaps went a bit too far

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Jun 2014 03:03

The Karachi attacks are telling us something. There is a shift.

member_22733 · Post by **member_22733** » 11 Jun 2014 03:03

Some jingoes (moi included) earlier fell into the Indo-pak dichotomy trap. i.e. When someone says anything anti-pak I used to assume that the person will be pro-India.

While we all praise Ms. Unfair, let us keep in mind that she is an FoggyBottom sepoy and she always will be their biotch.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 11 Jun 2014 03:30

LokeshC, that doesn't matter. It is important that there be voices in the US foreign policy circuit calling bullshit on the US pak army propaganda. The rest is irrelevant.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 11 Jun 2014 03:33

Mango exporters fear loss of $800m EU market
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/business/1 ... -eu-market

LAHORE: Mango exporters on Tuesday sought intervention of the Prime Minister and the Finance Minister against unnecessary regulations that have stopped the export of mango to the European markets thus causing a loss of billions of rupees to the mango exporters.They informed the LCCI office-bearers that the policy makers have initiated action on wrong perception that has no link to the reality. They said that it was golden opportunity for the Pakistani mango exporters to capture European Market as the Indian mango had already been banned in Europe for having Fruit fly in it. They feared that Pakistan would not be able to get back 800 million dollar market in case any third country enters into that market.The mango exporters also severely criticized the condition of third party inspection of mango saying that the inspection has been awarded to those who have no knowledge of this business. They said that the third party inspection charges were also exorbitantly high and are immensely adding to the cost of doing business.They said that if the third party inspection was necessary then it should be free of any sort of charges.They said that the importing countries including UK have no objection to Pakistani mangoes contrary to the restriction being imposed by the authorities in Pakistan.They revealed that so far mango amounting to $80 million could not be exported because of monopoly of a few persons who got their orchards registered with the connivance of some government functionaries..It is pertinent to mention here that the Plant Protection and the Ministry of Agriculture and Food Security has put some restrictions on mango export to EU countries, one of them is mango should be exported after hot water treatment and the second one is mango can be exported from the certified orchids which is approved by the government of Pakistan. The Govt. of Punjab has given the funds of Rs 2 billion for hot water treatment plant but the ministry has not shown any interest in the project.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 11 Jun 2014 03:41

Nawaz Sharif writes to Narendra Modi, says he's 'much satisfied' with meeting

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi hit a home run by inviting Saarc leaders for his swearing-in and if more evidence were required to prove it, it has come from none other than Modi's Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif.

Setting aside speculation in Pakistan that he wasn't entirely pleased with his India visit, Sharif has written to Modi saying, about their May 27 meeting, "I must say that I have returned much satisfied with our meaningful exchange of thoughts on matters of bilateral and regional interest." His letter was delivered to Modi's office by the Pakistan high commission.

Cheers

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 11 Jun 2014 03:45

Peregrine wrote:Nawaz Sharif writes to Narendra Modi, says he's 'much satisfied' with meeting

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi hit a home run by inviting Saarc leaders for his swearing-in and if more evidence were required to prove it, it has come from none other than Modi's Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif.

Setting aside speculation in Pakistan that he wasn't entirely pleased with his India visit, Sharif has written to Modi saying, about their May 27 meeting, "I must say that I have returned much satisfied with our meaningful exchange of thoughts on matters of bilateral and regional interest." His letter was delivered to Modi's office by the Pakistan high commission.
Cheers

it's puki psyops, pure and simple.

They always need a "joint press conference" a la sharm el sheik.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Jun 2014 05:41

Shaashtanga wrote:Does anybody have any clue as to why has Ms.Unfair become so Anti-Pak-Army-Establishment?

This vid gives some nice insights on how the PakArmy used the US counter insurgency material to mastermind its own ops in Cashmere-

"Fighting to the End: The Pakistan Army's Way of War"

Shaashtanga, this was discussed a few pages back quite extensively.

manish · Post by **manish** » 11 Jun 2014 06:31

Anujan wrote:Talibs claim to have damaged half a dozen planes. At least one seems to have engine damage.

Guys, not that I am an expert in aircraft, but this one particular bird seems to have been already put in storage (most probably for use as a parts donor) and pensioned off a while ago.

The plane appears to be a Boeing B737, that too an ancient 'Classic' variant that went out of production in the 1990s. Baki airlines like the PIA, Shaheen etc have a whole bunch of these old birds which are anyway in a barely flyable condition.

Looking at the taped up cockpit windows and the missing engines, I would say this one is in long term storage. Removing engines for safer storage/cannibalisation is the norm in such cases.

Somehow pictures of the B777 and the A310 haven't circulated - that's where the real meat lies.

The one with a bullet holes is clearly a B747, just notice the portion of its signature upper deck visible in the pictures.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 11 Jun 2014 07:15

manish wrote: Guys, not that I am an expert in aircraft, but this one particular bird seems to have been already put in storage (most probably for use as a parts donor) and pensioned off a while ago.

The plane appears to be a Boeing B737, that too an ancient 'Classic' variant that went out of production in the 1990s. Baki airlines like the PIA, Shaheen etc have a whole bunch of these old birds which are anyway in a barely flyable condition.

Looking at the taped up cockpit windows and the missing engines, I would say this one is in long term storage. Removing engines for safer storage/cannibalisation is the norm in such cases.

Somehow pictures of the B777 and the A310 haven't circulated - that's where the real meat lies.

The one with a bullet holes is clearly a B747, just notice the portion of its signature upper deck visible in the pictures.

Good observation - but the left leaf of the clamshell engine cover is sitting partly on the ground - it appears badly damaged to me.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 11 Jun 2014 07:26

shiv wrote:
manish wrote: Guys, not that I am an expert in aircraft, but this one particular bird seems to have been already put in storage (most probably for use as a parts donor) and pensioned off a while ago.

The plane appears to be a Boeing B737, that too an ancient 'Classic' variant that went out of production in the 1990s. Baki airlines like the PIA, Shaheen etc have a whole bunch of these old birds which are anyway in a barely flyable condition.

Looking at the taped up cockpit windows and the missing engines, I would say this one is in long term storage. Removing engines for safer storage/cannibalisation is the norm in such cases.

Somehow pictures of the B777 and the A310 haven't circulated - that's where the real meat lies.

The one with a bullet holes is clearly a B747, just notice the portion of its signature upper deck visible in the pictures.
Good observation - but the left leaf of the clamshell engine cover is sitting partly on the ground - it appears badly damaged to me.

It is true that this is a fourth aircraft -- after the 747-hajj, the B777-hanger, and A321toBeRetired. Always an excuse, no? The left engine has been blown up (thats not a part donor), and there appears to be a hole in the fuselage.

I am not sure any H&D is saved by hiding things. What happened to the fuel farm, and which aircraft got hurt is known to anyone who needs to know it. If they disclose the truth, there is a chance of a debate and public opinion shift away from the TTP types but we wouldnt want that now, would we?

Perhaps Pakistan can use the F16 as PIA aircraft after fighting the taliban navy with P3s.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 11 Jun 2014 07:56

In the video Haqqani cuts off Fair when she talks talking about the "Wrong Enemy" by Carlotta Gall. Means he is not completely sold out yet and has connections to the Pak establishment.

He is trying to avert complete divorce between Pak US from getting completely solemnized, wants Pak to have at least some bedroom access to Uncle Sam.

partha · Post by **partha** » 11 Jun 2014 08:44

Alhamdulillah!

Missed following all the Kraachi airport action live.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2 ... chi-attack

ISLAMABAD: Adnan Rasheed, a former officer of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), who now heads a lethal fidayeen unit of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), has turned out to be the possible mastermind of the June 8 fidayeen attack at Jinnah Airport in Karachi.

Preliminary investigations into the audacious fidayeen attack have given broad hints that the man at the helm of the bloody raid was Adnan Rasheed, the mastermind of a 2003 assassination attempt on General Pervez Musharraf in Rawalpindi.

Adnan was freed in an unprecedented jailbreak episode on April 15, 2012 when around 200 Taliban militants armed with guns, grenades and rockets attacked the high-security Central Jail of Bannu and released 384 prisoners. TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan subsequently declared on April 20, 2012 that the operation was mainly aimed at freeing Adnan.