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Pranav wrote:
fanne wrote:Am I the only one or does anyone is having this feeling that Con will use all means (including assassination or false detentions etc) to win this election?
Why not use EVMs, most people are quite satisfied with them. Much simpler.
If modi feels congress can use evm rigging, he always has the option of putting 64 candidates in each seat (they have no shortage of funds this time) and force a ballot box.
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Kanpur stage for Modi
- Plan to kick off with industry pledge, Jaiswal salvo (telegraph)

Lucknow, Sept. 20: Narendra Modi will start his Uttar Pradesh campaign from Kanpur next month, holding up the city’s decline as a sign of the UPA’s neglect and targeting Union minister Sriprakash Jaiswal over the coal block controversy.

This will be Modi’s first visit to the heartland state, where the BJP won only 10 of 80 seats in 2009, since being named the party’s prime ministerial candidate.

“Kanpur was once an industrial hub of north India but is now in ruins. Our leader (Modi) is expected to highlight this, outline his vision of development and explain how the Congress has failed to do anything to stem the slide,” state unit spokesperson Vijay Bahadur Pathak said, adding that BJP president Rajnath Singh would attend the October 15 rally.

Kanpur seems a careful choice. A section of the BJP had earlier urged Modi to contest the 2014 Lok Sabha election from the city but state leaders now say they would prefer Varanasi.

The BJP is looking to break the domination of Jaiswal, a three-time MP from Kanpur since 1999, with its development theme.

The party hopes Modi’s industry-friendly credentials as Gujarat chief minister will help convince voters that it can revive the fortunes of the city pockmarked with shuttered textile mills and leather units struggling to stay afloat.

Kanpur, with a sizeable presence of minority voters, was a Congress fortress through the eighties till 1989 when the CPM’s Subhasini Ali won. The BJP bagged the seat in 1991, 1996 and 1998 before the Congress’s Jaiswal began his winning streak in 1999.

BJP leaders have been harping on the city’s decline and stressing that nothing had happened despite Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s promise before the state elections last year that its industrial glory would be restored.

The Kanpur civic body is run by the BJP and Jagatvir Singh Drona, elected thrice as MP, is now the mayor.

Modi’s Kanpur rally will be followed by one in Jhansi on October 25. Once a BJP bastion, Jhansi is now a Congress pocketborough represented by Pradeep Jain, the Union minister of state for rural development.

Bahraich, another Congress-held seat, will be Modi’s next stop on November 8. Over 30 per cent of the voters in the district are from the minority community.
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Sushupti wrote:Full scale offensive launched against VK singh
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Here it comes .... TSD had 'tapped' J&K CM's phones, his govt says it found out
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so saw that video : http://www.narendramodi.in/transforming ... velopment/

what is the status now?
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http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/1891659/ ... abha-polls

Sources in Satta Bazaar say that the high-profile Modi is the most favoured politician today.On Friday, the odds on Modi was Rs1.30. This means that for every rupee you bet on Modi becoming the prime minister, you get Rs1.30 paise.
In sharp contrast, the odds on Rahul Gandhi was Rs3, which clearly showed that he has still to catch up with Modi. However, the odds could change depending on political developments leading up to the formal announcement of the polls.

The odds on Dr Manmohan Singh retaining his office are rather slim at Rs12.
Sonia Gandhi also appears to be way behind in the race at Rs13. To date, bets worth about Rs90 crore have been placed at markets in Mumbai, Ahmedabad, Jaipur, Indore, Karachi and Dubai. This figure is certain to go up in the days to come.

There is no interest in Mizoram, but there is considerable speculation about the outcome in the remaining four states where the Congress and the BJP are in power in two states each. The chances of Shiela Dikshit retaining power in Delhi, according to the bookies, is relatively good at Rs2.50, and that for the BJP is Rs4.50. This is because, the BJP unit in Delhi under its president Vijay Goel is perceived to be a divided house.

In Rajasthan, the BJP under the leadership of Vasundhara Raje Scindia is expected to do well. The huge response to Modi’s recent rally in that state has boosted the party’s image, and the odds of the saffron organisation forming the government is placed at Rs3.25 against Rs4.60 for the Congress. The BJP government led by Shivraj Singh Chauhan in Madhya Pradesh is expected to tide over the anti-incumbency factor and retain power. The odds are Rs2 for the BJP and Rs3.80 for the Congress. In Chhatisgarh too the BJP regime under Dr Raman Singh is expected to retain power and the odds are Rs2.10 against Rs4.50 for the Congress.

If BJP cannot wrest delhi from Congress, they will have a hard time upsetting congress at the center also. I hope based on recent surveys, they scrape through delhi.
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Hatched by NM and AS. No doubt. I wonder if CBI understands what will happen to them once NM is PM?
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^+1 Indeed. One can understand a congi with foreign visas playing with fire, but how moronic do you have to be, to be a CBI henchman with no fallback and still pay this dangerous game.
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fanne wrote:We think that the youth vote is silver bullet for BJP. An eye opener surveys (or whatever passes for surveys in India). My comments, the youth pop belonging to secular religions would be 25%, so keep that in mind while analyzing -
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/slideshows ... -want.html
NM vs RG = 44% vs 34%
BJP vs Cong (best for yourth) = 41% vs 30%
Who will you vote, BJP vs Cong/allies = 35% vs 36%

Not a one sided affair by any means
Secular religion votes are already gone. And 100% of them have voter ID. The struggle is to get rest of them registered and vote.
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Narayana Rao wrote:Hatched by NM and AS. No doubt. I wonder if CBI understands what will happen to them once NM is PM?

Nothing will happen, moreover, any thing that may come out of this witch hunt will not be admissible in court of law. The sole purpose of these revelations is to swing the undecided voters away from Modi.

In today's polorised political atmosphere, it makes no further difference. Those who will vote for Modi will vote for him. Those who will oppose him will continue to do so. The scamress will try to lead the undicideds through these actions, away from Modi.

Also, a tool is a tool, CBI if useful to INC today, will be useful to Modi tomorrow, if he come to power.
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Pratyush wrote:Also, a tool is a tool, CBI if useful to INC today, will be useful to Modi tomorrow, if he come to power.
Aah, saar... with all due respect, this is where even namo fans get the man wrong... he is unlikely to abuse CBI for petty witch-hunting and vengeance-mongering... naah.. the man will basically ensure the law to take its own course... and there's nothing really that scares the Dilli-billis (including in the BJP) more than having that happen - to them.
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Was kinda surpirsed to see that in the satta bazaar's wisdom, the difference between Raje winning and Gehlot returning wasn't as large as it should be.

Probably factors in the massive pour-in of freebies and the DCT activation in Rajasthan that happened in the last few months mainly.

And Gehlot's able and competent ministerial & legislative team is also doing wonders to close the gap. Here's a sample (no, thi is not the Babulal Naagar case, that is so y'day)

Gehlot’s shame: Another Congress MLA charged with rape
A day after a probe against former Rajasthan Minister Babulal Nagar for allegedly raping a woman began, MLA Udailal Anjana from State’s Nimbahera, Chittor has been charged by a married woman for sexually assaulting her.
If dilli media were covering this, they would've buried the news and created random distractions from it so thoroughly, none would be any the wiser.
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HS Saar, if the law takes its own course, then the, tool has done the job it was meant to do. No?
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^ True, but its untenable to compare namo's hypothetical treatment of CBI with the UPA one, at any level.

Anyway...

Are many insecure Congress leaders planning to join BJP?

oh, good fun, read it all I say...
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Sushupti wrote:Full scale offensive launched against VK singh
Army spook unit carried out covert ops in Pakistan

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 25008.aspx
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The spook unit was set up after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks on a defence ministry directive asking for the creation of covert capability.

Army documents, perused by HT, reveal the senior-most officers signed off on the formation of this unit. File No A/106/TSD and 71018/ MI give details of approvals by the Director General Military Intelligence, vice-chief and chief of army staff.
It appears that TSD was setup based on MoD directive. So where is the question of MoD not knowing. And MI has its job pretty defined. If it goes against LeT or any Terror outfit or infiltrates their inner circle in Pakistan or PA why it raises heckles of Congis and their mouthpieces. Are they more Paki then a Paki Pig?
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There is no limits for congi fellows. There are anti national lot now. Power and loot is only consideration. We can expect more from them before elections.
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Army spook unit carried out covert ops in Pakistan

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 25008.aspx
The spook unit was set up after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks on a defence ministry directive asking for the creation of covert capability.

Army documents, perused by HT, reveal the senior-most officers signed off on the formation of this unit. File No A/106/TSD and 71018/ MI give details of approvals by the Director General Military Intelligence, vice-chief and chief of army staff.
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Sushupti wrote:Full scale offensive launched against VK singh


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It appears that TSD was setup based on MoD directive. So where is the question of MoD not knowing. And MI has its job pretty defined. If it goes against LeT or any Terror outfit or infiltrates their inner circle in Pakistan or PA why it raises heckles of Congis and their mouthpieces. Are they more Paki then a Paki Pig?
Remember this and go back to Malegaon-Purohit-Mumbai blasts-Kahani movie. Add removal of POTA as a dressing. The full picture is that there is a section that built covert ops in India to counter terror and promote intel. Sonia gang destroyed with Puppy-Jhappy PM of India.

In BRF there is an elitist crowd from IITs (same mindset that is part of AAP) :) which dismissed all these things as pure CTs.

I again think NaMo becoming PM is difficult because of this stuff. These guys will be difficult to survive without power for all the destruction they did on the nation.
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Not so fast sir. U can manipulate system only so for. They may want power. But people may not give them that.
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shades of the late inder gujral shutting shop on RAW counterforce ops as a CBM with TSP no doubt to please chacha and his internal leftist peacemongers. I hear field assets were sold out to the TSP CI on that caper.

i wonder in this general winding down of anything but sikular ops (ie CBI targeting of non-INC leaders) how much hard earned capabilities and assets are being similarly thrown into the drain. probably take years to undo the damage even if INC loses the seat next year. evidence will surely be wiped on a industrial scale if that happens before the new govt gets a chance to relook. maam will take prolonged health leave to sanatorium in the alps and be unavailable to attend any summons, dutiful munna will also be there to take care of family. property dalla will likely emigrate to southern europe and london and seek political asylum. nothing will be found. couple all knowing retainers will commit seppuku in the true traditions of the samurai households.
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Most likely scenario sir. But in 2014 u can not be parachuted leader of opposition. Manna need to rebuild party. he can not do it from alps. Plus they have accumulated too many enemies here now who may be after their blood. Paid media may not be so accommodating once they are out of power. After all who...eing is what media doing now. They may print or report true news.
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In my interactions with aam janta (likely voters too, mind you), there's a widespread feeling that (i) cong must go, but (ain't there a butt always) (ii) difficult for namo to take power in 2014. So cong will likely return.

Dunno how to shake this widely spread perception. If this perception shakes and falls, then cong's exit and namo's ingress may well become a self-fulfilling prophecy. or so I hope... onlee.
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Hari Seldon wrote:In my interactions with aam janta (likely voters too, mind you), there's a widespread feeling that (i) cong must go, but (ain't there a butt always) (ii) difficult for namo to take power in 2014. So cong will likely return.

Dunno how to shake this widely spread perception. If this perception shakes and falls, then cong's exit and namo's ingress may well become a self-fulfilling prophecy. or so I hope... onlee.
The good thing is that NaMo has huge mindshare all across the nation from elites to very ordinary folks.
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Meanwhile...

Modi effect: Congress losing Hindu vote in Assam

Sad part is, dunno how much yindu vote even matters in Asom anymore.... Time AGP formally merged with the BJP. Its been out of power, purpose, ideas and direction for far too long, could do with some namonia...
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^^ Kureel sir should be careful of libel when he writes names in his cartoons.

Even niticentral can be shut down with him. Libel laws are quite selectively applied and they are applied for the benefit of Sickulars onlee.
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Can CBI arrest NAMO. What safe guards does the constitution provide to prevent such a misuse of central authoruty in a fedearal structure?
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Even niticentral can be shut down with him. Libel laws are quite selectively applied and they are applied for the benefit of Sickulars onlee.
Lilo Ji, that is why it is essential we oppose the imposition of the Communal Bill and censorship of SM and Hate Speech Bills. These are all back door entries for legalizing persecution of anyone telling the truth about Islamism. The problem is many Hindu groups naively are advocating the same. Please propagate the danger. This one is Clear and Present.
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Frank interview of VK Singh by ANI News - http://www.niticentral.com/2013/09/21/c ... 35950.html
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Sushupti ji, here's to acknowledging, in all fairness, that this Prudent Indian's call on NM's nomination as PM candidate did come true.
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sudarshan wrote:Sushupti ji, here's to acknowledging, in all fairness, that this Prudent Indian's call on NM's nomination as PM candidate did come true.
YES!. I have seen he is always on the dot.
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How can MSY become PM ?

All the permutations and combinations are seemingly against him.

Can anyone here layout a scenario where MSY can at least become a home minister ?
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British officials had red alert notice against me: Baba Ramdev

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It is tactical necessity, Sushupti ji.. I think NaMo will have to take it. If they leave for good without trace, they should be allowed (at least those int he diwan-e-khas of the queen along with royal family).. they can be brought back once our chandragupta is stabilized in Patliputra and Amatya Rakshas (who did not/could not flee with nandas) swears unflinching allegiance to the emperor. But in short term, it would be wise decision and perhaps essential one.

My sashtang pranaam to devaguru.. :)
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