Levant crisis - III

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Sep 2016 20:45

a brigade size russian vvd airdrop exercise
https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/stat ... 3753311232

habal · Post by **habal** » 07 Sep 2016 20:49

looks like ground is being cleared to advance to Al-Sukhnah and onwards to DeZ.

Russian Air Force destroys ISIL’s HQ in northeast Homs - link to Al-Masdar News

Excerpt: "The Russian Air Force carried out several airstrikes over the northeastern countryside of the Homs Governorate on Wednesday, targeting the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant’s (ISIL) headquarters near the Al-Sha’er Gas Fields."

habal · Post by **habal** » 07 Sep 2016 20:50

China Sends Warships & 1000 Marines to Syria,
Accuses the U.S. of lying About Syria And Ignoring International Laws.
Russia Sends another Amphibous Assault Ship.
Turkey Sends More Troops to Syria Border

http://investmentwatchblog.com/china-ac ... anean-sea/

habal · Post by **habal** » 07 Sep 2016 20:51

President Putin invites #Erdogan & #Assad to Moscow for a Tripartite Summit 18-22 September.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 07 Sep 2016 21:38

Habal that china thing is false news from 2013

habal · Post by **habal** » 07 Sep 2016 21:47

& here I was thinking it as natural corollary to China's withdrawal of red carpet and unboard ladder for Obama @ g20.

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 07 Sep 2016 22:01

china will not dare to send troops. They would like US and Russia to exhaust themselves. They will only supply weapons and some basic training to SAA.

habal · Post by **habal** » 07 Sep 2016 22:28

they are already there as military advisors & trainers and number in their 100s, so this seemed as actual troops as well ..

from south china morning post
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac ... assistance

In the run-up to the major G20 meeting to be held on September 4th and 5th in in Hangzhou, China has made a major public announcement about its role in the Syrian conflict. On Sunday August 15th, 2016 in Damascus, the Syrian defense minister Fahd Jassem al-Freij held a meeting with the head of the Office of International Military Cooperation of the Central Military Commission (CMC) of the PRC, Rear Admiral Guan Youfei.

An agreement has been reached in relation to the Syrian conflict. China's military will significantly increase its role in the Syrian conflict, by upgrading the role of special advisers and adding military trainers for the Syrian personnel, and increasing their numbers. China will also begin to directly supply the Syrian Arab Army with material needs, and also increase its humanitarian assistance. Presently, hundreds of Chinese military advisers are involved in the Syrian conflict.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 08:01

Thierry Meyssan is insisting that Amerika's involvement in Turkey's coup was not a matter of Gulen vs. Erdogan, but of ASSISTING Erdogan to subdue all local opposition, to facilitate the Sultanate's further conspiracy with the Washington satans. Meyssan says the real plotters were some incompetent and out-gunned Kemalists in the Turk military. One can find this analysis compelling, and note that Thierry is a part-time consultant to Syrian intelligence.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article193103.html

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Sep 2016 09:45

Tiger force second in command and suleimani in that pic is a public message the iranis are back anc loiking for blood in idlib. Earlier they kept out of each others way.

In a few weeks time perhaps the al ghab plains will see action and west aleppo rural areas

First khan touman has to be secured though as artillery op.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 10:08

Singha, as you predicted, ISIS has moved out of Al-Bab clearing the way for Turk occupation. All very convenient and coordinated.

http://english.almanar.com.lb/23384

"ISIL terrorist group started withdrawing from al-Bab city in Aleppo northern countryside and heading into Tabqa and before moving into Raqa province, according to media reports."

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 10:15

SyNavy C-802 anti ship missile dual launcher
official photo
rare

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 10:18

Jaish Al-Fatah Terrorists Suffer Heavy Losses in Syrian Army Offensives in Hama
https://southfront.org/jaish-al-fatah-t ... s-in-hama/

Excerpt: "Gathering centers and fortifications of the Jaish al-Fatah terrorist group were heavily pounded by the Syrian Air Force in the northern part of Hama province. As result, terrorists suffered heavy losses."

Syrian Army recaptures large parts of northern Hama

Excerpt: "The Syrian Arab Army (SAA), backed by the National Defense Forces (NDF) and Iranian paramilitaries, launched a new assault against the jihadist rebels of Jund Al-Aqsa (Al-Qaeda franchise) after failing to make any serious headway in northern Hama earlier this week."

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 10:31

" Turkish Official Says U.S. Was Not Complicit in Coup Plot "

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/07/world ... .html?_r=0

"Turkey Calls For "Buffer Zone" In Syria As Military Seizes Territory Called For By Brookings, MSM"

http://www.brandonturbeville.com/

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 10:40

Let me ask forummers a question ? Does Turkey feel that it can get away occupying Syrian territory and continue to sit over it after ISIL & Nusra/AQ has been thoroughly cleansed out of Syria. Can they face the combined wrath of SAA, Rus & Kurds. They are struggling with Kurds as it is. Erdogan being the too clever and cunning by half type of Islamic autocrat will know which brothers head to behead to keep his throne safe.

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 08 Sep 2016 11:25

Not sure what syria will do with C-802? May be useful against fortified position of jehadis. Israel doesn't see them as a threat unlike Yakhonts, which they went after.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 11:33

It can take out the 5th fleet.

Bheeshma · Post by **Bheeshma** » 08 Sep 2016 11:37

No it can't...Its another chinese crap like the silkworm that couldn't help saddam.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Sep 2016 12:55

Turkey will be allowed to keep some 10km wide zone to control pkk movements

More land outside that like al bab might be expected to give up to assad later once saa is done dealing with idlib. For now turks sitting on it prevents rojava linkup and saa has no men to occupy it..so job is outsourced to turkey

If turkey backtracks the kurds will be armed and let loose on them from all sides

Kurds afrin and rojava east will be there incl manbij. They hv consulate in moscow and track2 channel with bear. They are sitting quiet now due to track2 assurances.

Raqqa and deir azzor province will be bone of fight now.
Assad wants and needs them both for the oil and gas.

Kurds hv no interest due to arab pop

Amrika wants a fsa style emirate there thats anti assad but isis drove them all out ..so unless turkey pushes tanjs to raqqa no fsa. Arab sheikhs are probe to bribes and threats by assad.

I predict it will be a loosely run nwfp dmz of sorts with assad sheikhs all having some say but assad and UN control of the vital upstream dams that permit farming

Some morphed isis will be there ekeing out a living as bandits in the mountains and deserts

If there is a putin assad erdogan yalta conf soon the future map of syria will be drawn up there

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Sep 2016 12:59

East of euphrates assad writ will not run much. He has no men or money for it. Part kurd rojava part arabi kingdom union territory. ... qamishli as assadist union territory

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 13:20

there are lot of potential targets like sigint spy ships that hover near the coasts to track military coms. There was one such German ship which parked itself near Israel and was leaking out coms from Latakia to NATO allies & onwards to rats. This is a good counter for such nuisance.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Sep 2016 13:37

Russia sowing seeds of global instability: Ashton Carter

http://www.firstpost.com/world/russia-s ... 95216.html

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Sep 2016 13:41

Iraq militia fighters join battle for Syria's Aleppo

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea ... SKCN11D248

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Sep 2016 13:48

>> Hashim al-Moussawi, a spokesman for the Iraqi Shi'ite militia Harakat al-Nujab, said its fighters would reinforce areas captured from the rebels in southern Aleppo.The militia's Twitter account showed pictures of its fighters at the Syrian front with Iranian Major General Qassem Soleimani, commander of foreign operations for the elite Revolutionary Guards, who has led operations by Tehran's allies in both Syria and Iraq.

^^^ iraqis have been in syria for a long time, mostly in aleppo. the idea is have the iraqis, afghanis, iranians, liwa al quds local militia with a spine of republican guard hold the ring in aleppo and use manpower to make up for the lack of quality.

the strike units of tiger forces, repub guards, hezbollah, any elite irani units would thus be free as a HQ reserve and rest and repair for the coming storm in Idlib.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Sep 2016 13:49

Austin wrote:Russia sowing seeds of global instability: Ashton Carter

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 13:55

CNN has started dawn-to-dusk Aleppo atrocities campaign, now it is 'chlorine bombs' being thrown by Assad and then it is 'city of doctors' Aleppo attacked by Assad's brutal airforce injuring only kids and their 'doctors'. When CNN starts squealing, then the rats are falling.

I thus conclude that SAA is indeed having smashing success in Aleppo. Inshallah.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 14:22

Syrian Army on the verge of capturing key East Ghouta town -
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/sy ... outa-town/

"According to a military source in the East Ghouta, the Syrian Armed Forces have reached the southern outskirts of Tal Kurdi; however, Jaysh Al-Islam is offering significant resistance, as this town is considered a gateway to the eastern outskirts of Douma."

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Sep 2016 14:52

look at the handshake pic in the link

Obama administration says deal with Russia over Syria at make-or-break moment

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 08 Sep 2016 14:56

The body language of both is quite interesting.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Sep 2016 14:58

^^ came across a comment in that link , apparently reffering to Mrs Clinton

SlovenianWonder
6:53 AM GMT+0530
At least the US Syrian foreign policy is in better shape than Seth Rich, Shawn Lucas, Joe Montano, and Victor Thorn

Seth Rich , DNC director of voter data expansion, was fatally shot, but not robbed in DC in July
Shawn Lucas, at age 38 , died inexplicably about a month after serving the DNC legal papers in July (and uploading the proceedings to Youtube)
Joe Montano , a DNC employee with strong ties to Tim Kaine, unfortunately died of an apparent heart attack at age 47 in late July
Victor Thorn , a Clinton researcher and critic, succumbed to a gunshot wound in August

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Sep 2016 14:59

Pratyush wrote:The body language of both is quite interesting.

I think they both dislike each other , I suspect neither of them respect each other much hence John Kerry and Lavarov talk most often as they have better working relation.

Talks between Putin and Obama are always described as blunt and direct

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 08 Sep 2016 15:10

http://aa.com.tr/en/todays-headlines/tu ... esh/642844

Turkey: Mosul, Raqqa operations ‘vital’ against Daesh

“To accept Assad means the continuation of conflict and chaos. That is why we cannot remain stuck upon one person and we must instead discuss Syria’s future. The vision outlined by the opposition covers this entirely,” he said.

“I think it is realistic, but countries that support Assad must see this too.”

Noone is talking about Mosul right now except Turkey. And I wonder who these Assad supporting countries are.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 15:14

Gut feeling is that Kerry & Obama want to win in negotiation what they could not win on battlefield. Kerry wants to apparently make some deal with Russia on lifting the Ukraine sanctions in return of turning other eye and permit NATO Turks take over Raqqa. This is the same Oded Yinon plan of partitioning Syria and direct pipeline into Turkey & Europe & Greater Israel via Kurdistan.

Like F-16 manufacturing in India, Russia is being dangled carrot of lifting sanctions.

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 08 Sep 2016 15:16

Looks like Putin is having his tubelight moment now. Although I doubt that the effect of the ego massage he got from Erdogan on top of the coffin of dead Russian pilot will wear off so soon.

Russia criticises Turkey's operation in Syria for first time.
http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 060_1.html

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 15:23

It is important to limit Turkey to that 10km or whatever bullcrap they keep speaking about and not allow them to walk further inside. Iran was one country that could firewall Turkey with some troops and prevent them from moving south. You cannot use heavy weapons against the Turks at this sensivitive point. That is why USA has dangled carrot of lifting sanctions on Iran.

it would be interesting to have a map on favors promised by USA to various parties for inaction in Syria at this point of time.

One country that would be interested in blocking Turkey in Syria is China.

Bhurishravas · Post by **Bhurishravas** » 08 Sep 2016 15:35

US had to cajole turkey for months to close down 90 kms of its own side of border it had with ISIS. And Erdogan dragged his feet. Not to mention, how and from where foreign fighters were reaching ISIS and who was helping whom with arms and supplies.
Now that YPG was about to cut Turkeys direct contact with ISIS, here comes Erdogan, knight in shining armour, deciding he needs to wage war against `all terrorist groups`. With support from geniuses in US and Russia.
Safe zone is what Turkey is creating inside Syria. What will this safe zone be used for in future?! Not to train and equip a radical islamist army supported by Turkey to wage war against YPG and Assad for sure. That is simply impossible. I agree.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 20:31

UPDATES

Aleppo:
1) Complete collpase of rats inside Ramouseh Industrial district, the whole area is under the full control of Syria, meaning the western route to Aleppo is re-established, less time to bring food to the town and weapons to frontline.

2) The terrorist attempt to start an offensive from inside Aleppo toward a populated area ended with terrorists losing more ground than they have added (maybe this was advice from MI6/US SF 'advisors'). This will continue to happen through inner Aleppo, the terrorists will start to lose ground daily, watch Handarat Camp once more, but the real loss will come from near the western side, the terrorists' have lost their momentum and firepower, this is a long road but will end with them dying or taking a deal as in Darayaa.

3) In the last 2-3 days there seems to have been an increase of few thousand soldiers in the western Aleppo front, Iraqi militia and IRGC. This build up is on top of the previous one to recover the western Aleppo ground. This can only mean one thing, a new large offensive is about to start, it has been mentioned few times that an offensive in western Aleppo was imminent and this time it won't stop until it control Bab al Hawa border crossing and liberate the siege of Kafraya and Fu'ah. There is a storm approaching the filthy terrorists in Idlib.

Hama:
A large area was recovered in the past two days, setting the ground to storm Taybat an Imam, Suran and Haffaya in the next few days, thus reverting all the gains.

Should a new offensive starts from western Aleppo, the northern Hama frontline will be under a severe pressure and the terrorists will have their underbelly exposed since rats will have to be split amongst many fronts, serious manpower shortage. This time the rats will lose Lataminah and Kfar Zita, their toughest strongholds.

Daraa:
Watch out for the activity in Ibtaa and Da'el. The SAA is coming for the kill and will control the highway Daraa-Damascus and maybe all the way down to the border with Jordan. Expect the city elders to push rats out of their towns in no time as soon as the SAA advance.

habal · Post by **habal** » 08 Sep 2016 20:41

Gary Johnson, libertarian candidate exposed on foreign affairs.

Gary Johnson Crushes Libertarian Hopes with 3 Little Words

by Tyler Durden

The Libertarian candidate for president of the USA has apparently not been keeping close tabs on the Syrian civil war that has decimated the country and created hundreds of thousands of refugees.

“What would you do if you were elected about Aleppo?" Mike Barnicle asked Gary Johnson on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“About?” Johnson asked.

“Aleppo,” Barnicle repeated, referring to Syria’s second-largest city, which has been hit in recent weeks by a series of devastating chemical gas attacks and targeted bombing strikes on its few remaining medical facilities.

“And what is Aleppo?” Johnson asked sunnily, to the astonishment of the “Morning Joe” hosts.

“You’re kidding,” Barnicle said.

“No,” Johnson replied.

“Aleppo is in Syria. It’s the epicenter of the refugee crisis,” Barnicle said.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Sep 2016 22:04

Hope the iranians are on the ball this time with proper gear and ppl. Their sloppiness lost khan touman and the sight of green ndf types being taught how to use atgm for dummies 15min crash course was scary...those boys would fold up in 5 mins vs the nusra shams front elites

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 08 Sep 2016 22:36

turkiye moving enormous amount to the border and then into syria

turkey has the largest artillery and armour holdings in NATO after big daddy because the formerly large french, german and british armies are a pale shadow of the 80s peak. each could field no more than a armoured division with weeks of warning. and a couple indep brigades each.