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Tarun gogoi should worry himself considering he has a phoren bahu i.e Elizabeth gogoi. Considering what happened to another family with a phoren bahu.........
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Prasanna Viswanathan ‏@prasannavishy 3h

Also SagarikaGhose's father was media advisor of Somnath Chatterjee. People forgotten shameful role of Chaterjee https://twitter.com/India_MSM/status/455400823250370561
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he is just trying to 'align' himself with the dynasty's norms. and his son is launched into politics. much to the displeasure of himanta biswa sarma I expect :mrgreen:

now that it is clear he wants his son to rise and take the throne, and if the result in assam is INC:BJP 50:50ish, I see a chance to wean away himanta biswa into the BJP and break the assam congress into two factions. all depends if he and the local BJP leaders have a decent relationship or some deep rooted old enmity imo.

inorganic growth is good if managed deftly and with right people fit.
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Singha wrote: and he deserves the bharat ratna Nishan-e-Pakistan for being a lifelong dynasty toady. the same state which produced gopinath bordoloi and sarat chandra sinha produced this tasteless human.
Fixed.
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SanjayC wrote: The following figures are from the graphic in the above story. It gives opinion polls figures while actual seats achieved are in brackets. Notice how from 2004 when EVMs were introduced, opinion polls began to be wide off the mark when they were totally accurate earlier.

1996: BJP+ 189-215 (187); Cong+ 142-170 (143)
1998: BJP+ 234-254 (234); Cong+ 149-165 (144)
1999: BJP+ 279-336 (297); Cong+ 132-162 (134)
2004: BJP+ 260-286 (185); Cong+ 154-180 (217)
2009: BJP+ 165-186 (157); Cong+ 201-235 (262)


Someone most gullible or an extreme skeptic will not be able to see through the game. Why is Cong dragging its feet in introducing paper trail for EVMs despite supreme court orders? Communists protested against the nuclear deal, and the next year they lost badly in elections for first time in 30 years. How much proof someone need for EVM fraud? In this case, what are the chances of Modi coming to power? I feel they are nill. Congress has to swing an extra 25 seats its way and the game is over for BJP. Most likely a third front Govt. will come to power with Cong support.

Madhu Trehan tweets that she talked to Cong people and they were totally smug and confident that they will form the Government come what may!
This single data point alone is giving me shivers. People have almost assumed Modi is going to be PM, even I had. Won't be able to take the heartbreak, to me this time it seems make or break for India.
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It was the NDA government that introduced EVMs. Why did they?
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someone sold them the kool aid. they were very naive in some respects being new to power.
this ought to be fixed as the first exec order if some chance brings the NDA into power this time. lock down that hole forever with paper trail based auditing.
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Chandragupta wrote:It was the NDA government that introduced EVMs. Why did they?
After nuclear blasts, Goras gave NDA an ultimatum: We will impose sanctions unless you do the following:

1. Introduce EVMs with chip and software from us.
2. Allow foreign investment in Indian news media

The moment NDA agreed, Goras ensured it won't come to power again. As long as EVMs are there, there is no way Sonia Gandhi can be dislodged from power. Goras will see to it, Modi or no Modi. The only hope for BJP is when Americans think Modi rule is in their interest because he will improve the economy, helping US businesses make money.

Never before in history has a democracy been as subverted by Goras as India. They are stealing the popular mandate and putting their own proxies in power.
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SanjayC wrote:
Chandragupta wrote:It was the NDA government that introduced EVMs. Why did they?
After nuclear blasts, Goras gave NDA an ultimatum: We will impose sanctions unless you do the following:

1. Introduce EVMs with chip and software from us.
2. Allow foreign investment in Indian news media
Uh, they did sanction us. So this CT doesn't compute.
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nachiket wrote:Uh, they did sanction us. So this CT doesn't compute.
They were harmless and quickly lifted after NDA agreed to these terms.
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kittoo wrote:
SanjayC wrote: The following figures are from the graphic in the above story. It gives opinion polls figures while actual seats achieved are in brackets. Notice how from 2004 when EVMs were introduced, opinion polls began to be wide off the mark when they were totally accurate earlier.

1996: BJP+ 189-215 (187); Cong+ 142-170 (143)
1998: BJP+ 234-254 (234); Cong+ 149-165 (144)
1999: BJP+ 279-336 (297); Cong+ 132-162 (134)
2004: BJP+ 260-286 (185); Cong+ 154-180 (217)
2009: BJP+ 165-186 (157); Cong+ 201-235 (262)


Someone most gullible or an extreme skeptic will not be able to see through the game. Why is Cong dragging its feet in introducing paper trail for EVMs despite supreme court orders? Communists protested against the nuclear deal, and the next year they lost badly in elections for first time in 30 years. How much proof someone need for EVM fraud? In this case, what are the chances of Modi coming to power? I feel they are nill. Congress has to swing an extra 25 seats its way and the game is over for BJP. Most likely a third front Govt. will come to power with Cong support.

Madhu Trehan tweets that she talked to Cong people and they were totally smug and confident that they will form the Government come what may!
This single data point alone is giving me shivers. People have almost assumed Modi is going to be PM, even I had. Won't be able to take the heartbreak, to me this time it seems make or break for India.
+1. A heartbreak like that and its over - well and truly. Hope the yanquis over-reach and show their hand prematurely. Doubt that'll happen though. Chances are they'll restrict NM to <220 and elevate UPA to 178-180 odd. Too many smug statements from too many congressis reflecting confidence about returning to power, IMO.

Amazingly, chaiwala sources within the lotus also seem to hold a naive view of the EVMs... wonder where the truth lies.
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Sumeet wrote:BJP should have following representatives only: N Sitharaman, MJ Akhbar, Meenakshi Lekhi, Piyush Goel, Rudy and the person I would love the most will be Navin Kohli (the man speaks with Authority and has the face and body to back up the commanding voice. I still remember the show where is owned Rahul (AAP guy) and Vishnu Som.)

Prasad, Javredkar, Trivedi, Seshadari Chari should be made to focus there energies elsewhere.
Nalin Kohli is fantastic. I like Smriti Irani as well.

Sunil Alagh who although not a BJP member but a Modi supporter is also fantastic.
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That aadhar server building in bangalore needs to be converted into a jail for congis since its walls are anyway specified as blast proof.
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a while back, someone was nabbed I believe from bhopal who was going around selling EVM modification tools.

in 2010, a person who tried to prove it can be tampered was arrested
http://news.rediff.com/interview/2010/a ... -thief.htm
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If by some fluke Modi comes to power this time despite EVMs, there needs to be an Accountability Commission that will look into manipulation of elections through EVMs. People involved in subverting Indian democracy should then be charged with high treason and jailed or executed.
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http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140412/j ... 0uCmfna6M4
Voters cast doubts on EVMs

ZODIN SANGA
Aizawl, April 11: “Do you think EVMs can really be tampered? I have begun to doubt the EVMs now,” said an elderly man as he walked towards a polling booth at Chanmari locality in Aizawl to exercise his franchise.

This man may not be a supporter of chief minister Lal Thanhawla and his Congress party, who have been accused of rigging the voting machines in the Assembly polls in November 2013 to achieve a landslide victory. Many other voters are also asking the same question.

Allegations by the Opposition of EVM rigging and strong denial by the ruling party, supported by the election department, was the talk of the town.

The EVM rigging issue started with threatening SMSs sent to chief minister Lal Thanhawla just after the announcement of the Assembly polls results, which saw the Congress winning 34 of the total 40 seats. The SMSs alleged that the Congress’s sweep of the polls was a result of “EVM rigging” and “misuse” of the election machinery. The sender identified himself as Phantom.

The police traced the messages to the mobile phone of Chhawnthuama, a church elder and owner of a reputed school who has built a marble tomb in memory of his late wife, which is dubbed as the Taj Mahal of Aizawl. He confessed to have had sent the messages. He was arrested and is out on bail.

On April 4, Phantom appeared on local television and disclosed what he claimed to be “evidence” of EVM rigging. This time, he went into more details on how the EVMs used in the last state Assembly polls were rigged.

Going by comments on social media and local TV viewers’ forum, the “evidence” provided by Chhawnthuama appeared to have convinced many people.

The following day, thousands took to the streets in Aizawl demanding the resignation of Lal Thanhawla and his MLAs.

Aizawl police on April 8 “discovered” that all the “evidence” provided by Chhawnthuama were based on fabricated information provided by a trickster who they identified as C. Lalbiakmawia, 31, alias Michael Chhakchhuak. According to the police, Chhawnthuama paid Rs 17 lakh to this man for the wrong information.

On April 8, chief minister Lal Thanhawla expressed sympathy for Chhawnthuama. “He is a scapegoat who has been fooled by the Opposition parties. He is a victim. I am praying for him,” he said.
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Hari Seldon wrote:
kittoo wrote: The following figures are from the graphic in the above story. It gives opinion polls figures while actual seats achieved are in brackets. Notice how from 2004 when EVMs were introduced, opinion polls began to be wide off the mark when they were totally accurate earlier.

1996: BJP+ 189-215 (187); Cong+ 142-170 (143)
1998: BJP+ 234-254 (234); Cong+ 149-165 (144)
1999: BJP+ 279-336 (297); Cong+ 132-162 (134)
2004: BJP+ 260-286 (185); Cong+ 154-180 (217)
2009: BJP+ 165-186 (157); Cong+ 201-235 (262)


Someone most gullible or an extreme skeptic will not be able to see through the game. Why is Cong dragging its feet in introducing paper trail for EVMs despite supreme court orders? Communists protested against the nuclear deal, and the next year they lost badly in elections for first time in 30 years. How much proof someone need for EVM fraud? In this case, what are the chances of Modi coming to power? I feel they are nill. Congress has to swing an extra 25 seats its way and the game is over for BJP. Most likely a third front Govt. will come to power with Cong support.

Madhu Trehan tweets that she talked to Cong people and they were totally smug and confident that they will form the Government come what may!

This single data point alone is giving me shivers. People have almost assumed Modi is going to be PM, even I had. Won't be able to take the heartbreak, to me this time it seems make or break for India.
+1. A heartbreak like that and its over - well and truly. Hope the yanquis over-reach and show their hand prematurely. Doubt that'll happen though. Chances are they'll restrict NM to <220 and elevate UPA to 178-180 odd. Too many smug statements from too many congressis reflecting confidence about returning to power, IMO.

Amazingly, chaiwala sources within the lotus also seem to hold a naive view of the EVMs... wonder where the truth lies.
From 1999 to 2009 — the Congress’s vote share increased by just 0.5 per cent to 28.6 per cent .
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To be really honest I think that anyone who reads news and is up to date with facts can do a far better job than a lot of the jokers on TV; I thank god that my SHQ does not watch news channels and instead keeps to stupid movies and other soaps for I get to spend my time reading stuff on internet rather than news channels run by these EKta Kapoor type editors.

What BJP and it's leaders need to do is just deny these fcking TV news guys any TRP, cherry pick the shows and channels . Arnab's seems to be a safer choice and avoid NDTV like plague.
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+1 lots of dhoti shiver too much of a heartbreak if NaMo is not PM :((
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suryag wrote:+1 lots of dhoti shiver too much of a heartbreak if NaMo is not PM :((
As a woman, should I say "saree shiver"? It would be a big heartbreak for me as well if NaMo does not become the PM. :((
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Shamlee wrote:
suryag wrote:+1 lots of dhoti shiver too much of a heartbreak if NaMo is not PM :((
As a woman, should I say "saree shiver"? It would be a big heartbreak for me as well if NaMo does not become the PM. :((
What better way for the west to demoralize Indians by helping the Congress to manipulate EVMs and stop NDA from coming to power?
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only thing is why let BJP become powerful by winning many state elections and namo to become a huge threat before stepping in with remote control magic?

they could have snuffed out the namo threat by making him lose raj, chattisgarh and MP earlier.

if there is a game being played between humanity and The Overlords, I would hope BJP has also made its own parleys with these godlike beings.

http://infinispace.net/wp-content/uploa ... -cover.jpg
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Singha wrote:only thing is why let BJP become powerful by winning many state elections and namo to become a huge threat before stepping in with remote control magic?

they could have snuffed out the namo threat by making him lose raj, chattisgarh and MP earlier.

if there is a game being played between humanity and The Overlords, I would hope BJP has also made its own parleys with these godlike beings.

http://infinispace.net/wp-content/uploa ... -cover.jpg
I have noted this too. For Goras, states are immaterial. It is central government they are after as all international treaties are signed by it. Also, letting BJP win in states is essential to maintain credibility of election process. This way if someone alleges EVM rigging in central elections, they can claim: "Hey, but with the same EVMs, didn't BJP won a landslide in Rajasthan and MP?" Otherwise, can you think of a reasonable explanation about why results so vary from opinion polls after 2004 in favour of Congress?
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people that are seeing/commenting about smug Congi leaders, I'll ask where?
sure they are putting up brave face and on TV claiming that they are still in the game.

but even on the TV their body language and the tone betrays that they have given up. and if we go by their actions then there is a panic. very different from 2009.

so, either they are loosing despite EVM magic or EVM magic is CT.

EVM magic can only work in swing constituencies. so, even if EVM magic is in play where there is possibility of playing around with small margins, the Congi panic indicates that barring a small number of swing constituencies there is sweep elsewhere.
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SanjayC wrote: I have noted this too. For Goras, states are immaterial. It is central government they are after as all international treaties are signed by it. Also, letting BJP win in states is essential to maintain credibility of election process. This way if someone alleges EVM rigging in central elections, they can claim: "Hey, but with the same EVMs, didn't BJP won a landslide in Rajasthan and MP?"
So what happens if the NDA wins this time? Will you put your hand up and say that you were wrong and all the EVM magic CT's were crap or will that also be explained away as yet another Chankian move to maintain credibility of the election process?
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Recent tweets by Madhu Kishwar:
Mischief with EVMs serious concern. Petition in Supreme Court against EVMs which are easily tamperable allowed to drag on for years.
Congis complacent, have Plan A B C D E up to infinity in place to sabotage Modi's victory. Sonia's mafia team has struck deep roots in BJP
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Priyanka Gandhi drinks too much alcohol, says Subramanian Swamy http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/priy ... 55620.html … pic.twitter.com/ih8oTPtIEp
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nachiket wrote:So what happens if the NDA wins this time? Will you put your hand up and say that you were wrong and all the EVM magic CT's were crap or will that also be explained away as yet another Chankian move to maintain credibility of the election process?
As I said, only the most gullible or the most skeptical will be unable to see EVM fraud despite facts being presented about sudden shift in fortunes of Cong after 2004 in terms of actual number of seats despite opinion polls predicting BJP victory. You seem to be the skeptical types.

NDA can win only if Goras want it to win. They may be in this mood this time otherwise they won't have sacked Nancy Powell after meeting Modi. The reasons may be:

1. If Cong wins even this time despite such a groundswell for Modi, Indians will undoubtedly know that EVMs are being rigged. So Modi may be given a chance but with slender majority so that Govt can be brought down later if Modi doesn't behave.
2. Americans have decided that Modi can put life into Indian economy which will help US businesses by winning contracts.
3. Americans want Modi to become PM so that he can make Indian military strong that can then be positioned as counterweight to an assertive China.
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SanjayC wrote:
SwamyG wrote:It is kind of worrying that Congress thinks 160-seats are in play, apart from their sure-seats. Dirty tricks or not, if they manage to get 140+, then Modi Sarkar is in doubt. So let us not count the chickens before they hatch, though it is so nice to dream and build castles in the air.
Times of India yesterday had an article about how opinion polls cannot be relied upon as they proved wrong in the last two LS elections and Cong got huge number of seats. This, coupled with recent news about EVMs being found rigged in favour of everyone except Cong, has made me think that appropriate noises have begun to be made to prepare people for EVM fraud. Now it seems Cong is "watching" 160 seats where it has a good chance. You can put two and two together.

Times of India is a Cong whore and all trial balloons of this mafia party are first floated there. It is so obvious that the last two UPA wins were totally due to EVM fraud as the difference between opinion polls and the number of seats it got was staggering and couldn't be explained by anything as opinion polls had never proven so wide off the mark before in any election.

Why opinion polls are often wide of the mark
Initial opinion polls suggested that NDA was going to sweep the elections. According to poll results of India Today-ORG Marg, published in February 2004, NDA was supposed to get 330-340 seats while Congress and allies were to be confined to 105-115. Later the predictions were revised to 260-286 for NDA and 154-180 for Congress and allies. Then PM Atal Bihari Vajpayee became so confident by what the opinion polls had to say that in an April 17 rally at Nagpur (three days before the elections), he expressed his discomfort with the coalition government and said, "My worry now is, if we are again saddled with a 22-party coalition... such a situation is better avoided." Perhaps he was indicating that it would be easier to govern the country if his party secured a majority. The results, however, shocked BJP as NDA was reduced to 185 seats, while Congress and allies won in 217 constituencies.

In the 1999 elections as well, the initial poll predictions suggested that NDA would emerge a clear winner. An opinion poll conducted by DRS for TOI for the August 5-9 period — about a month before the elections — suggested that NDA would get 332 seats while Congress and allies would manage only 138. India Today-Insight opinion poll also confirmed TOI's prediction, giving 322-336 seats to NDA and 132-146 to Congress and allies. Both opinion polls suggested that BJP and Congress would increase their individual tally by cutting into the votes of regional parties.

The newspapers were full of stories about a "Vajpayee wave", which was the focus of BJP's election campaign. A news report based on TNS MODE survey even suggested that Sushma Swaraj was going to beat Sonia Gandhi in Bellary. The estimates were later revised to 279-336 for NDA and 132-162 for Congress and allies — much closer to the actual results. Swaraj, however, lost from Bellary and state parties won 162 seats.

Opinion polls for 1998 and 1996 elections were, however, closer to the actual results. Why do opinion polls tend to favour a particular coalition while underplaying others? First, unlike Western countries, India's population is not homogeneous — caste, religion and region play an important factor in elections. Also, people, particularly from the weaker section of society, are reluctant to reveal which party they are going to vote. BJP might be getting overplayed because the main support base of the party is the middle class — a section which is not afraid of any post-election harassment and hence they are vocal in sharing their views. On the contrary, key voters of other parties are from vulnerable sections of society and hence they are afraid to share their opinion. (The reporter here still cannot explain why opinion polls for 1998 and 1996 were accurate despite all these limitations)

Experts also argue that opinion polls work much better in bipolar elections. In India, where elections are multi-cornered, it is possible that pollsters fail to estimate the strength of regional parties.
Notice how the article above is careful to avoid mentioning that EVMs were introduced in 2004, the same year from which opinion polls began to go haywire.

The following figures are from the graphic in the above story. It gives opinion polls figures while actual seats achieved are in brackets. Notice how from 2004 when EVMs were introduced, opinion polls began to be wide off the mark when they were totally accurate earlier.

1996: BJP+ 189-215 (187); Cong+ 142-170 (143)
1998: BJP+ 234-254 (234); Cong+ 149-165 (144)
1999: BJP+ 279-336 (297); Cong+ 132-162 (134)
2004: BJP+ 260-286 (185); Cong+ 154-180 (217)
2009: BJP+ 165-186 (157); Cong+ 201-235 (262)


Someone most gullible or an extreme skeptic will not be able to see through the game. Why is Cong dragging its feet in introducing paper trail for EVMs despite supreme court orders? Communists protested against the nuclear deal, and the next year they lost badly in elections for first time in 30 years. How much proof someone need for EVM fraud? In this case, what are the chances of Modi coming to power? I feel they are nill. Congress has to swing an extra 25 seats its way and the game is over for BJP. Most likely a third front Govt. will come to power with Cong support.

Madhu Trehan tweets that she talked to Cong people and they were totally smug and confident that they will form the Government come what may!
Just wondering if EVM can be manipulated with why cannot the Exit polls :D, to make it seem everything going fine?

Do exit polls agencies not fall under the influence of EVM magicians?
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muraliravi, any feedback ? still suggesting 185 BJP ? if you can drop me a line at [email protected].

thanks for everything.
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OK. If I was Congress this is what I will do
1. Accept that this time I will lose; and
1. consolidate gain in the assured seats; and
2. Try hard in places where it is neck to neck competition; and
3. Make sure I have enough numbers to cause much trouble in parliament; and
4. Save funds for the next election and start preparation; and
5. Make life extremely difficult for NDA in and out of parliament for next 5 years

Even if Modi comes, next 5 years will be very turbulent. If Modi survives and get re-elected in 2019 then it would be a real victory over Congress.
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Yashwant Deshmukh of Cvoter is having a live Reddit Ask Me Anything or ama at India News section of Reddit. Ask him your 'queries'.
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SanjayC wrote:
nachiket wrote:So what happens if the NDA wins this time? Will you put your hand up and say that you were wrong and all the EVM magic CT's were crap or will that also be explained away as yet another Chankian move to maintain credibility of the election process?
As I said, only the most gullible or the most skeptical will be unable to see EVM fraud despite facts being presented about sudden shift in fortunes of Cong after 2004 in terms of actual number of seats despite opinion polls predicting BJP victory. You seem to be the skeptical types.

NDA can win only if Goras want it to win. They may be in this mood this time otherwise they won't have sacked Nancy Powell after meeting Modi. The reasons may be:

1. If Cong wins even this time despite such a groundswell for Modi, Indians will undoubtedly know that EVMs are being rigged. So Modi may be given a chance but with slender majority so that Govt can be brought down later if Modi doesn't behave.
2. Americans have decided that Modi can put life into Indian economy which will help US businesses by winning contracts.
3. Americans want Modi to become PM so that he can make Indian military strong that can then be positioned as counterweight to an assertive China.
So basically, there is no result that can actually disprove the CT since it can be perpetually modified to suit the result. Nice.
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Lok Sabha Elections: 11 Congress Ministers on a sticky wicket

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-lo ... et-1978036
Congress is rushing central observers to cover at least 300 Lok Sabha seats as reports pouring in from different parts of the country suggest heavy losses in the already concluded phases and a doom for 11 central ministers going to polls in the remaining phases.

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Jaiswal is among 11 central ministers fighting a battle of survival in the coming phases of Lok Sabha polls in North India, mostly in Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan. Inputs from party headquarters suggest that ministers such as Salman Khurshid, Sriprakash Jaiswal, Beni Prasad Verma, Jitin Prasada, RPN Singh, Pradip Jain (all from UP), Chandresh Kumari Katoch, Namo Narain Meena, Sachin Pilot, Jitendra Singh and top party leader and former minister CP Joshi (all contesting from Rajasthan) are on a sticky wicket.

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Senior minister Ghulam Nabi Azad who looked set to manage a comfortable victory a few days ago in Udhampur is now seen fighting a tough battle, keeping in view the voting patterns in the nearby Jammu Lok Sabha seat, that went to polls in the third phase. The BJP in Jammu managed a heavy turnout in the Hindu-majority districts of Jammu and Samba (between 70 % and 80%), while the Congress could not ensure a matching turnout in the Muslim- dominated Poonch and Rajouri districts, where polling percentage was a dismal 55%. Party sources here say that if this pattern is repeated in Udhampur seat, Azad will find it difficult to sail through in his first Lok Sabha poll from Jammu and Kashmir.

To put up a fighting face in the next phases, the Congress high command has decided to rush observers to 300 odd constituencies as well as to the crucial seats where top ministers are in the field to coordinate between local party campaigners and the party's "war room" in Delhi to stem the tide. The decision was taken at a meeting chaired by party vice president Rahul Gandhi at his residence here last week. The members, which reviewed the performance of its candidates in 104 Lok Sabha constituencies that went to polls in the first three phases, was quite disappointed to learn that internal assessment was suggesting a debacle, and that a last-minute push was necessary.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Regardless of what the BRFoumites say, NaMo would do well to not unnecessarily antagonize the Americans inspite of umpteenth provocations. He has done well in not giving any statements that reflect his bitterness on visa fiasco. There are several pressing battles that need to be fought from Day 1 of the next govt. Some of these range from urgently reviving the power sector as he has alluded to in his speeches.

Secondly he needs to focus on straightning out the defence sector by improving muntions supply to the Armed forces for 50 - 60 days to start with. He needs to remove all the UPA Bureaucrats with NDA appointees from NDA rules states. This will take at least 6 - 12 months.

GS has already given a green signal to NaMo becoming the next govt. US state dept has given it's cautious approval by letting go of NP. He needs to work out tactical agreements to cement his rule and pull the rug from under the mafiosi. A year or two down the line when he satrts to take on the NGO/EJ lobby is when his real test with US will really begin.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Yashwant Deshmukh of CVoter is currently doing an Ask Me Anything (AMA) on Reddit. If any Rakshaks want to ask him a question, please let me know.

http://www.reddit.com/r/indianews/comme ... of_cvoter/
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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nachiket wrote:So basically, there is no result that can actually disprove the CT since it can be perpetually modified to suit the result. Nice.
Can you please offer an explanation for the swing in Cong fortunes after EVMs were introduced? A skeptic will remain a skeptic regardless of facts. Learning from prior experience, I don't waste much time with them.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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how are things shaping up so far for the major parties ? i think that is all we really want to know - without him crossing into a formal exit poll of course
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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Paul wrote:He needs to work out tactical agreements to cement his rule and pull the rug from under the mafiosi. A year or two down the line when he satrts to take on the NGO/EJ lobby is when his real test with US will really begin.
While there are many known unknowns and unknown unknowns, me thinks he will focus all of his 1st term (5 years) to repair the damage of the last 10 years, try sanction proofing the economy, rewriting the rules of governance in Delhi and build up for a 2nd term with a decisive mandate.

Only in his second term backed by a decisive mandate will be start overt mass cleaning. That is not to say that he will not go after anti-nationals in his first term but that it would be a selective culling, driven mostly by legalistic process, covert actions like tracking and neutralizing funding, preparing special dossa (files) to be served in his second term.
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Re: Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

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"Allegations by the Opposition of EVM rigging and strong denial by the ruling party, supported by the election department, was the talk of the town."
From Germany
http://www.loc.gov/lawweb/servlet/lloc_ ... 01164_text

https://www.ndi.org/e-voting-guide/exam ... ng-germany
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