Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 26 Sep 2013 18:45

wasn't rajinikanth supposed to be there? when is that rally? managed to get online just now..

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 26 Sep 2013 18:46

He is really on offensive today. Would boil the blood of any nationalist.

Talking about divisive nature of congress.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 26 Sep 2013 18:51

Atri wrote:wasn't rajinikanth supposed to be there? when is that rally? managed to get online just now..

Rajini does not stick his head for political rallies. He has shared his time, with Modi and others in non-political setting.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 26 Sep 2013 18:52

Even rajnikant fears the taxman and assorted alphabet-soup gubmint agencies seems like.... no wonder didn't show up. A recorded message from him to fans played from the dias would have been nice too, btw...

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 26 Sep 2013 18:58

As expected there is complete blackout of NaMo's rallies in UP and Tamilnadu - at least on English MSM. Even his visit to Kerala was dismissed as merely to wish the 'hugging saint' on her birthday! And on another note, looks like the new RBI guv is toeing the line too - grading Gujarat 'less developed'!

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 26 Sep 2013 19:01

No mention of Amma? The deal is not done it seems. Good only. It's better to go alone pre-poll. They can align afterwards if the need arises.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 26 Sep 2013 19:02

kapilrdave wrote:He is really on offensive today. Would boil the blood of any nationalist.

Talking about divisive nature of congress.

Yes!!

Finally some one is taking this Bull by its horns.

Me imagining NaMo to be saying this.. Waht to do lack of jootube onlee : Xongi nature is divisive. They reign by dividing people into manageable voteblocks. They don't have even a drop of human blood in their rotting corpes s . Their blood type is Xongi blood type. The xongi types are further divided into caste A, caste B, Religion X, Religion Y, so on and so forth. When the nation demands Indian blood as sacrifice they will say the have no Indian blood type in them ... Only xongi blood types of the various voteblocks they keep in control by inducements threats or blackmail.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 26 Sep 2013 19:03

Hari Seldon wrote:Even rajnikant fears the taxman and assorted alphabet-soup gubmint agencies seems like.... no wonder didn't show up. A recorded message from him to fans played from the dias would have been nice too, btw...

I love Rajni for his acting and also his dignified life.

But I do not think he is leadership material and believes in raising peoples voice. He is comfortable in doing whatever little good he can do with his own resources but he is not an people-enabler type person.

In mantra sastra it is explained thus-

Nothing - This level of individual is a parasite. He is a net consumer of nature.
Klim level - This individual is self-sufficient level. He contributes enough to society that covers his own consumption.
Hrim level - This individual is not only self-sufficient level but also helps others to be self-sufficient (Klim level). For example industrialists fall in this category for they create employment.
Srim level - These individuals crate things that makes people to become Hrim level. For example the gurus of Hrims and innovators (someone innovated automobile, telephone - thus creating a whole new industry) fall in this category.

Rajnikanth is an Hrim level individual. NM is at Srim level.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 26 Sep 2013 19:05

rajithn wrote:As expected there is complete blackout of NaMo's rallies in UP and Tamilnadu - at least on English MSM. Even his visit to Kerala was dismissed as merely to wish the 'hugging saint' on her birthday! And on another note, looks like the new RBI guv is toeing the line too - grading Gujarat 'less developed'!

Don't worry, the MSM will come out with panel discussions. Like how Nidhi Razdan and others pointed out that Modi prostrated at Advani's feet, but Advani did not bless him. They might talk about have Jaya did not attend the rally, and it is a snub to Modi and NDA. Or even better since "Lord Ranganathan did not attend the rally in person, though his house (temple) is close, does it mean the Hindu gods have deserted Modi?" The nation wants to know, you know.

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 26 Sep 2013 19:07

I was hoping that he would say that we should make learning at least one South Indian language mandatory in North Indian schools. That would have assuaged any remaining concerns about "imposition" of Hindi in T.N. and, if actually implemented, the plan would lead to a better meeting of minds of S. and N. Indians. At present, folks in the North have very little knowledge of South Indian languages and customs.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 26 Sep 2013 19:12

Ashok Sarraff wrote:I was hoping that he would say that we should make learning at least one South Indian language mandatory in North Indian schools. That would have assuaged any remaining concerns about "imposition" of Hindi in T.N. and, if actually implemented, the plan would lead to a better meeting of minds of S. and N. Indians. At present, folks in the North have very little knowledge of South Indian languages and customs.

One statement like that and the entire topic of discussion will change. I think it is better for him to stay away from such issues.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 Sep 2013 19:13

This was even bigger than Bhopal..NM mentioned 10 L! That there was a bridge behind and behind that bridge another ground even that was chock a block full..!! This is not a wave, not a tidal wave, not a Tsunami, it's a TSUNAMO!!! Mission 372 folks not 272 looks better!

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 26 Sep 2013 19:15

Ashok Sarraff wrote:I was hoping that he would say that we should make learning at least one South Indian language mandatory in North Indian schools. That would have assuaged any remaining concerns about "imposition" of Hindi in T.N. and, if actually implemented, the plan would lead to a better meeting of minds of S. and N. Indians. At present, folks in the North have very little knowledge of South Indian languages and customs.

Never say something which is akin to ticking time-bomb.. he said enough..

I was expecting him to invoke MGR.. would have been fun..

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 26 Sep 2013 19:26

harbans wrote:This was even bigger than Bhopal..NM mentioned 10 L! That there was a bridge behind and behind that bridge another ground even that was chock a block full..!! This is not a wave, not a tidal wave, not a Tsunami, it's a TSUNAMO!!! Mission 372 folks not 272 looks better!

Moreover these people are not for Transport+Biryani+Currencynote+Liquor. These are volunteer. One more thing about these rallies, people are provided with chairs and with rooftops. These are not just mobs, who hop from one rally to another. Most of them can influence at least 5-10 votes. Its TsuNaMo for UPeeAway.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 26 Sep 2013 19:30

suryag · Post by **suryag** » 26 Sep 2013 19:36

when such crowds turn up it is easy to win regional allies as they have the ground level workers to make use of the glamour and convert the crowd to votes. let us see how this pans out. If Namo wins allies in AP, TN then there is some chance for NDA or else it is hard

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 26 Sep 2013 19:45

yama r is trying for the KRIM level post!

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 26 Sep 2013 19:47

Such discipline and arrangement is unseen in Bharat so far, looking at the scale.

Organizers abhinandan ke paatra hai

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 26 Sep 2013 20:25

Muppalla wrote:

Lower left corner I see couple of empty seat, clearly blow to Modi.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 26 Sep 2013 20:26

let you what, this image is Photoshopped

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 26 Sep 2013 20:32

SaiK wrote:yama r is trying for the KRIM level post!

good one and I know it

disha · Post by **disha** » 26 Sep 2013 20:43

Ashok Sarraff wrote:I was hoping that he would say that we should make learning at least one South Indian language mandatory in North Indian schools. That would have assuaged any remaining concerns about "imposition" of Hindi in T.N. and, if actually implemented, the plan would lead to a better meeting of minds of S. and N. Indians. At present, folks in the North have very little knowledge of South Indian languages and customs.

Ashok'ji the same can be said about South having very little knowledge of NI languages and customs and same for east India and west India. We broke the ancient communication links of Bharat varsha. It will take a generation or two to amend that.

Sridhar K · Post by **Sridhar K** » 26 Sep 2013 20:43

It seems he started with requesting two minutes silence for the jawans killed in J and K and the victims of kenyan shooting per Dinamalar

disha · Post by **disha** » 26 Sep 2013 20:44

harbans wrote:This was even bigger than Bhopal..NM mentioned 10 L! That there was a bridge behind and behind that bridge another ground even that was chock a block full..!! This is not a wave, not a tidal wave, not a Tsunami, it's a TSUNAMO!!! Mission 372 folks not 272 looks better!

Harbans'ji - you might have contextualized a new word - TSUNAMO.

Anything bigger than a tsunami, is a TSUNAMO. And my gujju friends will be happy.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 26 Sep 2013 20:47

disha wrote:
Ashok Sarraff wrote:I was hoping that he would say that we should make learning at least one South Indian language mandatory in North Indian schools. That would have assuaged any remaining concerns about "imposition" of Hindi in T.N. and, if actually implemented, the plan would lead to a better meeting of minds of S. and N. Indians. At present, folks in the North have very little knowledge of South Indian languages and customs.
Ashok'ji the same can be said about South having very little knowledge of NI languages and customs and same for east India and west India. We broke the ancient communication links of Bharat varsha. It will take a generation or two to amend that.

The link was and is always Samskrutam. There is a reason why it is made into Deva bhasha and all our philosophical, technical and social writings were done in Samskrutam. That is why British removed Samskrutam and replaced it with English.

All of Bharat can come back together under Samskrutam, for it is not Hindi. But for that to happen, we need to remove the Aryan-Dravidian divide first.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 26 Sep 2013 20:47

Ashok Sarraff wrote:I was hoping that he would say that we should make learning at least one South Indian language mandatory in North Indian schools. That would have assuaged any remaining concerns about "imposition" of Hindi in T.N. and, if actually implemented, the plan would lead to a better meeting of minds of S. and N. Indians. At present, folks in the North have very little knowledge of South Indian languages and customs.

No. Make Sanskrit a national language and hence compulsory. All problems solved. Me thinks. But poorly.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 26 Sep 2013 20:58

it ain't that easy, Sanskritam is symbolism for Hinduism, it is also drilled down that it is the language of Aryans etc, there would be lot of resistance, just few weeks back there was a petition in supreme court just on this matter and if it can be introduced into school curriculum.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 26 Sep 2013 21:02

venug wrote:it ain't that easy, Sanskritam is symbolism for Hinduism, it is also drilled down that it is the language of Aryans etc, there would be lot of resistance, just few weeks back there was a petition in supreme court just on this matter and if it can be introduced into school curriculum.

So language does have a religion. Then what makes English and why should it be imposed on Indians? What religion does Tamil represent?

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 26 Sep 2013 21:05

RamaY garu, I understand your question, I wanted to mean that Sanskritam==Hinduism connection will be made to prevent such a move, the recent petition in supreme court points to existence of such an argument.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 26 Sep 2013 21:05

RamaY-ji, careful, the thread will go OT.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 26 Sep 2013 21:08

oops, sorry. I thought I was in nukkad... will stop here.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 26 Sep 2013 21:09

lannguage is becoming a major barrier for modi, your cant expect him to talk in all languages. It seems even the translation was pure

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 26 Sep 2013 21:17

I am a Southie, and I have no problems to say that we need to make all Indians know Hindi. I don't see any other Indic link language. You don't have to be an expert but it would be good for people to be able to speak decent Hindi and understand it.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 26 Sep 2013 21:21

krishnan wrote:lannguage is becoming a major barrier for modi, your cant expect him to talk in all languages. It seems even the translation was pure

Please elaborate for those who didn't hear his speech in Tiruchirappalli

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 26 Sep 2013 21:31

i didnt either , my kid wanted to see cartoon on my computer , have to watch the recording

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 26 Sep 2013 21:39

did known even tamilnadu police people use twitter, not the official handle , personal. Lots of students bunked college to attend the rally

suddenly lots of pro congi tweets

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 26 Sep 2013 21:43

Hindi is ok but not paki lingo which our movies use. It should be Sushma Swaraj Hindi. Few years back I attended a court hearing in MP. ( i was unfortunate to live in MP when diggi was CM there.)The lingo of the court there was simply great. Except may be tamilnadu people rest of the people can understand that as it contain lot of commonly used Sanskrit words.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 26 Sep 2013 21:46

Amitabh Bachchan speaks beautiful Hindi.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 26 Sep 2013 21:46

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 26 Sep 2013 21:55

@KiranKS
Hahahaha.. they said BJP is a North Indian party. This is even before #NaMoInTrichy speech! - via @SRIRAMChanne