Re: People's Republic of China Nov 22, 2009
Posted: 03 Jan 2010 23:14
And if I were an US strategist, a design mistake in 3gorges would lead to worst man-made disaster in panda heartlandRamaY wrote:Very nice read NRao garu!
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And if I were an US strategist, a design mistake in 3gorges would lead to worst man-made disaster in panda heartlandRamaY wrote:Very nice read NRao garu!
IMHO not a very plausible scenario, neither are the Chinese prone to take that much risk, nor are the US such big suckers or confused to the point that they wont massively retaliate against such stunts.
I find it very plausible, given PRC antiqs w.r.t spy plan accident, anti-satellite test etc.bart wrote:IMHO not a very plausible scenario, neither are the Chinese prone to take that much risk, nor are the US such big suckers or confused to the point that they wont massively retaliate against such stunts.
OTOH, Pakistan is regularly operating along similar lines against India and getting away with it, be it Kargil, Mumbai etc.
In terms of the development models the two countries have currently selected, it is inappropriate to simply judge whose development model is better or assert which country will prevail in future competition. It is worth noting that each of the two countries have advantages that the other lacks.
Objectively, in the current international state of affairs, the competition between China and India is no longer a "zero-sum game," and does not have to be a situation where one side needs to fall for the other to rise. The border disputes between the two countries are unlikely to be solved through a war, instead, talks and negotiations are the best solution and is in the fundamental interests of the two countries.
That complements Gen. Padmanabhan's book, "India Checkmates America, 2017".
The Government of the PRC must realize that the island disputes are a legacy of history and the two nations should settle the matters peacefully and through dialogue rather than through force.China on Tuesday reasserted claims over South China Sea island groups at the heart of a multinational territorial dispute considered a potential Asian flashpoint.
China has ``indisputable sovereignty'' over the Spratly and Paracel islands, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said, rejecting recent comments from Vietnam, which also asserts dominion over the islands believed to sit above large oil and natural gas reserves in strategic shipping lanes.
Chinese forces seized the western Paracels from Vietnam in 1974 and sunk three Vietnamese naval vessels in a 1988 sea battle. The sides have yet to demarcate their sea border and many Vietnamese remain suspicious of their giant northern neighbor.
One thing on which, I have seen near zero discussions on is, what if China can really buck the widely expected oncoming of democracy and charts its own ways and systems. Now, that would be something to ponder?The Liu Xiaobo case, much to China’s consternation, is not likely to find closure anytime soon. On Christmas day, a court in Beijing sentenced the leading dissident and human rights activist to 11 years in prison on charges of “inciting subversion of state power”. Liu was accused of “serious crimes”, gravest of which was to co-author Charter 08, a document seeking political liberalisation. The document is an indictment of the Chinese government for having “stripped people of their rights, destroyed their dignity, and corrupted normal human intercourse.” But while China may have wrapped up the legal case, it may have unwittingly reopened a critical political debate.
...Thus, the idea of political reform as Deng said, “absolutely must not be influenced by Western parliamentarian political ideas. Let there not be even a trace of it!” Hence any calls for a multiparty system, tripartite separation of powers or a parliamentary system of government were, by association, politically incorrect. It remains to be seen whether the party will be able to maintain its almost obsessive desire to present a unified face on some of these questions.
Fireworks light up the sky to kick off the annual Ice and Snow festival in Harbin, China on January 5, 2010. (STR/AFP/Getty Images)
More than $100m (£63m) changes hands in China every year for ghost-written academic papers, according to research by a Chinese university. The study, by Wuhan University, says Chinese academics and students often buy and sell scientific papers to swell publications lists.
Some hard-up masters or doctorate students are making a living by churning out papers for others. Others mass-produce scientific papers in order to get monetary rewards from their institutions.
How China views India's new defence doctrine
January 07, 2010 14:13 IST
China experts feel Indian defence strategy treats China, not Pakistan, as priority target, which they also believe provides for a partial border war, writes D S Rajan.
Reports on India's revision of its defence doctrine to meet the challenges of a 'two front war' with Pakistan and China have of late received media focus. Pakistan has been prompt in its response, describing India's reported move as 'betraying hostile intent' and reflecting a 'hegemonic and jingoistic mindset'.
The People's Republic of China does not appear to have come out so far with any official reaction on the subject; interesting however is that the same theme of India's 'two front war', worded a bit differently as 'two front mobile warfare' has figured in an in-depth authoritative Chinese evaluation of India's defence strategy, done as early as November 2009; it raises a question whether or not Beijing already knew about India's reported revision of its defence strategy. This apart, it would be important to have a close look at what has been said in that analysis, for drawing meaningful conclusions. What follows is an attempt in that direction. …………………….
How China views India's new defence doctrine
Officials said the talks saw “positive progress” with both sides discussing new confidence building measures (CBMs) and a joint military exercise, which is to be held later this year.
Mr. Ma {People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA) Deputy Chief of General Staff Ma Xiaotian} said the talks gave both sides a chance to “clarify concerns, deepen mutual trust and coordinate stances.”
Officials familiar with the talks said regional security issues, including the recent tensions along the disputed border and the two countries’ naval strategies, were on the agenda.
Mr. Liang {Defence Minister Liang Guanglie} called on both governments to do more to “exert a positive impact on media and public opinion,” to improve the strained atmosphere, State-run Xinhua news agency reported {Obviously a reference to the discussions in the Indian media}.
China has withdrawn two of its films from the prestigious 21st Palm Springs International Film Festival (PSIFF) after it failed to force organisers to withdraw Delhi-based Ritu Sarin and Tenzing Sonam’s latest documentary film on Tibet’s struggle for freedom.
While Sarin and Sonam left for the United States early on Friday to attend the screening of their film “The Sun Behind the Clouds: Tibet’s Struggle for Freedom,” China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and its film bureau have withdrawn “City of Life and Death” (also called “Nanjing! Najning!”) and “Quick, Quick, Slow.”
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Officials from the Chinese government posted in the consulate there had met Macdonald requesting him to withdraw the Tibet film, which will be screened at the festival on Sunday and Tuesday, with the possibility of a third screening.
khan wrote:NYT op-ed on india and china
US is interested in the Border. Just like the colonial British.
“The truth is,” a high-ranking U.S. State Department official told me, “both India and China have important roles to play in the emerging global architecture.”
“We are concerned about the border,” he added, “but in the next decade, the U.S. will likely be involved in a different issue on the Himalayan border — which is the dire shortage of water in both nations, and the role Tibetan waters can play in addressing it.”
Some folks have an over rated sense of their importance. As both India and China both grow economically and militarily and increase relative power vis-a-vis the west/US along with a sense of self confidence in their own historical narratives, there will be a realization on both sides that the west has little to offer as an intermediary between the two largest Asian nations.Acharya wrote: US is interested in the Border. Just like the colonial British.
James S. Chanos built one of the largest fortunes on Wall Street by foreseeing the collapse of Enron and other highflying companies whose stories were too good to be true.Now Mr. Chanos, a wealthy hedge fund investor, is working to bust the myth of the biggest conglomerate of all: China Inc.
"Dubai times 1,000 -- or worse"
"Bubbles are best identified by credit excesses, not valuation excesses," he said in a recent appearance on CNBC. "And there's no bigger credit excess than in China."
Mr. Chanos, 51, whose hedge fund, Kynikos Associates, based in New York, has $6 billion under management, is hardly the only skeptic on China. But he is certainly the most prominent and vocal. For all his record of prescience -- in addition to predicting Enron's demise, he also spotted the looming problems of Tyco International, the Boston Market restaurant chain and, more recently, home builders and some of the world's biggest banks
"The Chinese," he warned in an interview in November with Politico.com, "are in danger of producing huge quantities of goods and products that they will be unable to sell." In recent months, a growing number of analysts, and some Chinese officials, have also warned that asset bubbles might emerge in China. But many analysts now say that money, along with huge foreign inflows of "speculative capital," has been funneled into the stock and real estate markets. A result, they say, has been soaring prices and a resumption of the building boom that was under way in early 2008 -- one that Mr. Chanos and others have called wasteful and overdone. "It's going to be a bust," said Gordon G. Chang, whose book, "The Coming Collapse of China" (Random House), warned in 2001 of such a crash.
Friends and colleagues say Mr. Chanos is comfortable betting against the crowd -- even if that crowd includes the likes of Warren E. Buffett and Wilbur L. Ross Jr., two other towering figures of the investment world.
What if PRC becomes a proxy for US with regard to the border and also even India/South Asia?ShauryaT wrote:Some folks have an over rated sense of their importance. As both India and China both grow economically and militarily and increase relative power vis-a-vis the west/US along with a sense of self confidence in their own historical narratives, there will be a realization on both sides that the west has little to offer as an intermediary between the two largest Asian nations.Acharya wrote: US is interested in the Border. Just like the colonial British.
I feel PRC is further along the way on the issue of not letting western narratives dominate its political choices.
Acharya wrote: What if PRC becomes a proxy for US with regard to the border and also even India/South Asia?
With this minor border land they can control the destiny of Asia for many decades by keeping the dispute burning.Karna_A wrote:PRC becoming proxy for the US for some minor border land??
Indeed we should start by showing the Kailash-Mansarover regions as part of India..and Tibet as an independent country, including provinces of Tibet in the east completely annexed by China.A Chinese proverb is famous in the world better do in inches than in yards," a report filed by former Sub Divisional Magistrate (Nyoma) Tsering Norboo had said.
I hope their taller than mountain friend lends a helping in this regard, because they are searching for virgins in heaven.More than 24 million Chinese men of marriageable age in a decade may never find a bride because births of boys so far outnumber those of girls.
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[quote="sanjaykumar"]Sigh, that is a racist comment. I happen to find many Chinese women very attractive.[/quote]
BEIJING — China announced that its military intercepted a missile in mid-flight Monday in a test of new technology that comes amid heightened tensions over Taiwan and increased willingness by the Asian giant to show off its advanced military capabilities. The official Xinhua News Agency reported late Monday that "ground-based midcourse missile interception technology" was tested within Chinese territory."The test has achieved the expected objective," the three-sentence report said. "The test is defensive in nature and is not targeted at any country."
With the uptick in domestic protections against Chinese exports (steel, tire tariffs), we're just starting to see an American backlash to this Beijing response. The argument runs as follows: Domestic industry subsidies and fixed yuan/dollar peg have allowed the Chinese government to draw wealth away from the U.S. economy by allowing its export-focused industries to sell to the American consumer for artificially cheapened prices. By that logic, China hasn't just been a free rider in the international system … but more directly on the U.S. economy. Therefore, China's plans for its immediate economic future are fundamentally incompatible with the vision of "global rebalancing" as laid out by Larry Summers and other Obama administration officials. This is the crux of the tension in the U.S.-China relationship -- by way of protectionist policies and slower consumer spending, the United States is rejecting China's development model.
In 2010, a mid-term election year with high unemployment, labor and even some industry groups will lead the Obama administration to send the message that China's economic policies cannot persist and will lay down the gauntlet with more tariffs on Chinese exports. We'll see more intense politicizing of exchange rate policy (especially absent a significant rise in the yuan); investment policy tensions both in the United States (CFIUS) and in China (greater state preferences for local firms); China-bashing when Obama pushes cap and trade in the Senate; growing trade tensions (especially on steel); and issues involving cyber-security. And if any new "product safety" scandal emerges involving Chinese manufactured goods in the middle of those tensions, we'll also see a populist American push against goods "made in China."