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Given how that area looks and feels during the peak hours, it could have been far worse. Hope the responsible are caught and made an example.

Used to frequent that area as I have many friends and relatives there.

Condolences to the bereaved families.

Local modules aren't good at bomb making and we wouldn't be seeing such long pauses between attacks if they had access to such material, they had enough "Islam under attack" reasons in between including Owaisi's arrest recently. B Raman is politicized as well.

Surya, Local pandus know everything. Its a matter of directing them to the threats.

It is very small lane. At the beginning of the lane is that tiffin centre, then konark theatre and few yards away is sai baba temple. And this same lane goes on for more then 4 to 5 kms inside leading to different colonies. This particular road will be bustling with people round the clock. And the bus stop across this lane on the other side too is very busy one with lot of commuters. Most people are hindus.

Muslims & Meat shops, In most places where meat is sold is run by muslims. If its only chicken & eggs then hindus run most of them in hyderabad.

Sushupti wrote:

reminding that it is full of Butchers and belongs tooo.... < that community??>

Its a big retail place, the whole place is full of computer centers, Temples, a Big bus stop, movie theaters, cloth merchants and junior colleges(+2). I have rarely seen a butcher shop where blasts took place.

8 of the 13 dead identified,

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/seri ... 612887.cms

Hyderabad blasts victims: Mohd. Rafeeq (22), Ijaz Ahmed (first-year student of polytechnic college), Vijay Kumar (23, MBA student), Mutyala Raju (23, MBA student), A. Ramulu (56), R. Shivani, Gunta Thirupathi and Srinivas Reddy.

vasu raya wrote:8 of the 13 dead identified,

Hyderabad blasts victims: Mohd. Rafeeq (22), Ijaz Ahmed (first-year student of polytechnic college), Vijay Kumar (23, MBA student), Mutyala Raju (23, MBA student), A. Ramulu (56), R. Shivani, Gunta Thirupathi and Srinivas Reddy.

WTF practicing secularism in the list of dead people , why is it that muslims are named first and then Hindus??????????????????????????????

ramana

a chaiwallah spent sometime with some TFTA folks in a certain crowded area to figure out how certain attacks can be prevented and after looking at the crowd and foot traffic TFTA folks said - good luck - god only can save you.


maybe a dramatically expanded intel human assets may reduce it

rajsunder wrote:WTF practicing secularism in the list of dead people , why is it that muslims are named first and then Hindus??????????????????????????????

its quoted from a news site, edited my post, the intent was to show that more hindus were killed while Ghass can count on meat shops

easy guys

the dead do not have to be classified just because the siculars are playing their games

The names are important for the Islamic sympathizers in the Old city to see what their more rabid brothers are causing.

Anyways, if all CCTV live feeds can be collated with networking, here is a recent advance that can help,

http://mashable.com/2012/03/23/hitachi- ... cognition/

I have extended family living in Gaddi Annaram and other colonies of Dilsukh Nagar. Ms. Ghoshe's friend is dead wrong about meat shops. If there are meat shops they are not prominent. Somebody should ask her what she means by that cryptic tweet and demand that she explain her theory in a blog post or something where she can be completely discredited (if such a thing is even needed).

Also, why is she relying on hearsay? She has a news reporter network at her disposal. Why is her network not sending people to the site and do some digging?

This looks very bad and am very saddened by the unnecessary loss of life.

this is not at all unexpected. there is no GOI or Satae Goverments, its just looting mafia.

once upon a time heads would roll, our PM just rolls his eyes and like a sage hopes the guilty will be punished as if its not his rule...

This slime ball ....

https://twitter.com/AmareshMisra

wow that dude has serious mental illness

TOIlet says
Ind Muj signature is bicycle & tiffin box bombs

If so why doesn't the damn police have pictures/posters and warn citizens about abandoned bicyles or tiffin boxes? And have a stolen bike registry.

They could have done that a dozen years ago!

Sushupti, What did the guy say? cant look at it.

--too soon--

Not here Theo.

ramana wrote:Sushupti, What did the guy say? cant look at it.

Amaresh Misra ‏@AmareshMisra
By organising Hyderabad blasts, Hindutva elements have declared war on India. They deserve no mercy.

some people.

So he is following Barkha Dutta's lead!

Anyone know the real count or there is no official release?

Different news outlets have different figures for dead from 12-22 dead.

Sushupti wrote:This slime ball ....

https://twitter.com/AmareshMisra

Unfortunately, there are some Hindus, who are not WKKs or leftists, but are pure Islamists. Nilim Dutta, Amaresh Mishra are amongst them. Their views are no different from Hafeez Sayyeds and have both for example, threatened violence on Hindus. They also have access to the highest levels of our government. Unfortunate, but it is happening.

Theo, puhleaze what is the relevance of "meat shops" to terrorism? If she has some theory, she should lay it out in a blog post or in an extended TV report analyzing the connection. If not she should bl**dy STFU instead of tweeting like a bird brain.

pgbhat wrote:

Amaresh Misra ‏@AmareshMisra
By organising Hyderabad blasts, Hindutva elements have declared war on India. They deserve no mercy.

some people.

That is nothing. Look at his other tweets about Delhi Police being infiltrated by Mossad. He was born on the wrong side of our western border.

Theo_Fidel wrote:Do Hindu's in Hyderabad not eat meat at all? Just curious. I have to say the Kakinada region has excellent meat dishes IME.

Are you trying to be funny? This is a bomb blast thread. People died. Seeing as how the sight of charred remains gets you hungry its probably best that you salivate in the Food and Wine Thread in the General Discussion Forum.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... start=3320

Theo_Fidel wrote:Do Hindu's in Hyderabad not eat meat at all? Just curious. I have to say the Kakinada region has excellent meat dishes IME.

I eat all kinds of meat, but I find the above in extremely bad taste. ConGoon Sagarika wrote what she wrote with an agenda which is obvious for everyone to see, lets not spin it around by hijacking the thread.

Can locals assess the factors of presence of Ahmedyyas and Shias relative to the localities at present? I know that last year Ahmedyya mosques were being targeted, and Shias have been too. As per my docs, these areas (blast) lies exactly in the virtual frontier between the outer circle from the old centre which was occupied by "Hindus" moving in into the olde city after the partial evacuation post-independence of a part of the Muslim populations. But this demographics might have changed in the last two decades.

Rumors from the Hyderabad streets is 100+ are dead, public does not believe the official numbers and also think the real numbers will be never out.

Rudradev wrote:

ramana wrote:NIA is on the case. We can except good cover-up.

So far not one case has been solved by them NOT ONE.

NIA's spokesmen are primarily for the purpose of under-reporting the numbers of dead and wounded when a "secular" terrorist attack happens. Their official figures for the Mumbai 2011 blasts were 26 dead. 26! Even at just ONE of the bomb sites, a bus-stop in Dadar Kabootarkhana at peak hour (6:45 pm) you would have 30-40 people waiting right under the bus shelter itself. The area would be packed with vehicular and pedestrian traffic on the street and footpaths.

My acquaintances from that neighbourhood have reported that dozens of people who would regularly be seen at that site... vendors, flower-sellers, food-stall owners etc. were simply never seen again after the blast date. They didn't reappear after a few weeks of recovering from their injuries, or municipal repairs... they were simply gone.

So please factor this in when you hear from the NIA-sources in MSM that only "15-20" or some such figure were killed in H'bad.

Yep, the casualties seem to be under-reported. Anyone who sees that place would know that 2 highly explosive bombs in peak times can create lot more casualties.

This has become a tamasha. These people are only interested in controlling the reaction of Hindus(victims) by suppressing figures, links, and perpetrators. The whole 'investigation' is simply for this purpose.

The whole puzzle is solved when the kongis(infact, the whole 'secular' nexus) is identified as collaborators of the jihadis. They are playing from the opposite side. They are like moles. Will a thief catch himself? Will a rapist protect women? Of course, not. Then, why would these people protect Hindus from jihadi terrorism? Instead, they will try to invent 'saffron terror'. And they are doing that.

The problem is that most people cannot fathom the point that they can be working with outsiders to kill their 'own'. They look at them as 'protectors'. So, the failures are attributed to incompetency. But, no. It is far more sinister than incompetency. It is not incompetency but nexus. If they want then they can easily, easily, find the local perpetrators, supporters, funders and motivators of such jihadi acts. Finding and punishing the foreign jihadis may be tricky, but what is the difficulty in finding and punishing the local ones? Why are they allowed sanctuaries in their ghettos? Why are the trails of the previous acts not investigated to their logical ends? Why are they busy talking about 'Hindu terror'(which was started by the pakis, in the first place) when they should be dealing with jihadis?

The answer is simple: they are in nexus with jihadis and their funders. Their goal is to nurture, protect, support and encourage the jihadis(local and foreign). And for this purpose, anything and everything is ok.

Dogvjay was trying to ascribe 'Hindu terrorism' to 26/11 even after there was so much evidence(even internationally) about the paki connections. Originally, it was the pakis who were saying that Kasab is a Hindu. SIMIlarly, pakis alleged Samjauta bomb blasts of being a 'Hindu terror act'. The kongis are now peddling the same line. When there was an encounter of jihadis in Dilli, lot of 'secular' hue and cry was made(even though cops died in that encounter). Doggy on that occasion was also alleging 'minority harassment'.

This concept of 'minority harassment' also strengthens the case of pakis 2 nation theory. Pakis say, "look, there is harassment of minorities. If pakiland was not created, then what would have happened? So, 2 nation theory is justified."

Basically, we are looking at two sides of the same coin: 'secular' and jihadi. Both have a single mai-baap: west. It has its roots in pre-1947. At that time, there were two entities: congress and ML. Both acquired their legitimacy by the recognition of brit crown. Congress was 'secular' even then and ML was jihadi even then. Hindus thought that congress represented them also. So, they threw their lot with the congress. No Hindu organization was allowed to play any role in national policy before or after 1947. If ML can be made into a power, then surely any Hindu organization could also have been made into a power if the brits wanted. But, they seem to be dead against any strengthening of Hindus. So, all the negotiations were limited to 3 entities: congress, ML, and brits. Outside, it was again 3 entities: brits(colonial & EJ), ruskies(commies), and amirkhans(EJ).

These entities and their negotiations yielded the result of partition. The lands and population were divided, one was bestowed on congress('secular') and another on ML(jihadis). Their was no land for Hindus. Hindus had to choose between two dispensations: 'secular' or jihadis.

Providing the international support to these two dispensations are: commies, colonialists and EJs. This means that the local sepoys of commies, colonialists and EJs will also support them. The only victim in this scheme is: Hindus.

Those Hindus who lived in the lands that were bestowed to jihadis are now extinct(or nearly extinct). So, now, Hindus are left only in lands given to 'secular'. The 'secular' are there to nurture, protect and sponsor the jihadis while simultaneously trampling, weakening and brainwashing the Hindus.

So, even when the links are straight-forward, the jihadis are not punished. Actually, they are not even investigated to establish the guilt of perpetrators. But, if for some reason, the investigation is complete, then they get acquitted thanks to the 'loopholes' in law. Why does it take so long to punish Kasab, even after the court verdict? And, that ch*t*ya was caught red-handed in a terror attack that had international attention. So, if that is the kind of system, then what can one expect from the present investigations(where most probably no terror org will take responsibility)? One can expect insinuations and speculations of 'saffron terror'.

Jihadis, commies, colonialists, and EJs have a working alliance and it is called: 'secularism'. One can see the coordination clearly. They are ready to work with each other to finish off the Hindus(if such a thing is possible). After that, they can fight for the spoils. That is the idea.

The reaction of undy tv or saganika's reactions are testimony to this.

If there are meat shops in Dilsukhnagar(there are bound to be all kinds of shops in an area like that), then they are not at all prominent or noticeable. One would not notice them even if one resides in that place, unless one is specifically looking to find a meat shop. So, why is she talking about meat shops when there are bomb blasts with several people dead and injured? What is the relevance of meat shops? Is this some joke?

It is a predominantly(if not wholly) Hindu residential and commercial area. Majority of the victims in these blasts are Hindus. Hyderabad is a Hindu majority area. Even old city of Hyd has lot of Hindu population. In fact, it was the presence of this population that forced the nizam to unleash Razaqers to genocide the Hindus, so that he could make Hyd part of pakiland.

So, why is she peddling this non-sense? To insinuate about possible 'Hindu terrorism'? In Hyd, many meat shops are run by Hindus also. So, presence of meat shops does not mean presence of muslims. Also, even if some muslims own some meat shops(obscure) in a happening commercial area(predominantly Hindu) does that mean that jihadis will not plants bombs in that place? Is this 'a muslim does not kill muslim' logic? Does that mean, according to Saganika, there were no muslims killed in the previous jihadi attacks? What about the happenings in pakiland, where shias are being genocided by the sunnis?(It is different matter that the whole mayhem in pakiland is rooted in the dispute of ,"who is a muslim and who is munafiq(pretender)?" Every 'muslim' sect considers all other 'muslim' sects as munafiqs and legitimate targets)

BTW, the muslims of Hyd are mostly shia. These shias of Hyd should thank the Hindus who stopped the Nizam's plans of Hyderabad's merger with pakistan. If Hyd had become part of pakiland, then the shias of Hyd would have met the same fate that is greeting the shias of pakiland. Sunnis would have blasted bombs killing the shias, not even sparing the shia mosques. So many blasts in the shia mosques while they are 'praying', and pakis and 'seculars' have the nerve to claim that some dilapidated shia structure built on a Ram Janma Bhoomi was the reason for all terror attacks. Not just in pakiland, but even in UP, mohharram witnesses clashes between sunnis and shias. So, this whole 'muslim does not kill muslim' is a paki line. Jihadis view the deaths of even 'authentic' muslims as collateral damage in fight against the kafirs. So, trying to erect the strawman by Saganika Ghouse is pathetic.

So many jihadi acts were 'justified' using Ram-Janma Bhoomi. After that, it was post-godhra riots that were used to 'justify' jihadi terrorism. Now, they are speculating that it could be Afzal Guru's hanging!

It is an attempt to portray that the jihadis are reacting to what they perceive as injustice. This is nonsense. And people should not fall for this. Jihadis don't need any other reason. The ideology is enough. No other reason is needed.

pentaiah wrote:this is not at all unexpected. there is no GOI or Satae Goverments, its just looting mafia.

once upon a time heads would roll, our PM just rolls his eyes and like a sage hopes the guilty will be punished as if its not his rule...

I am reminded of Eka-chakra-puram in Mahabharatha. King makes a pact with a Rakshasa. According to the pact, the citizens of eka-chakra-puram have to provide food to rakshasa. All the citizens pitch in and provide its its like rice, vegetables, ...etc. Daily one person will have to drive a buffalo cart filled these items to the rakshasa who will eat all the items including the driver(human) and buffalo. Everyday one household has to contribute one of its family member as a driver who will become food to the rakshasa. This has become India's situation.

Theo_Fidel wrote:Do Hindu's in Hyderabad not eat meat at all? Just curious. I have to say the Kakinada region has excellent meat dishes IME.

Pathetic. Competing with Saganika Ghouse...

I have read your other comments on this topic carefully, so I am curious, what exactly do you have in your mind?

Reading Telugu news papers.

Apparently the police commissioner visited the sai baba temple, which is less than 100mtrs from the blast place, just few minutes ago. The speculation is that the original target was Sai Baba temple but changed when police security is observed near the temple.

Secondly, there is something that we are not catching. This is a rare scenario where bomb blasts happened literally at the same place, the sai baba temple.

What are we missing? What is so special about dilsukhnagar sai baba temple that it is focus of bomb blasts? Why not other equally/more popular sai baba temples for example the panjagutta one?

Well, the sweepers on the ground are as busy as the spinners in the media (atleast the sweepers are doing a dignified job):



And oh: There goes the evidence.

Edit: Sourced from here: https://twitter.com/mahrukhinayet/statu ... 4603300865

brihaspati wrote:Can locals assess the factors of presence of Ahmedyyas and Shias relative to the localities at present? I know that last year Ahmedyya mosques were being targeted, and Shias have been too. As per my docs, these areas (blast) lies exactly in the virtual frontier between the outer circle from the old centre which was occupied by "Hindus" moving in into the olde city after the partial evacuation post-independence of a part of the Muslim populations. But this demographics might have changed in the last two decades.

The bombs, from what I read, went off near 'Dilsukhnagar bus stand'. This should mean the main road. The area is chaotic, with lots of pedestrians, buses and cars all fighting for space. The road is a very busy thoroughfare. Others can comment but I dont believe that is an enclave for any particular religion (i.e. not like Old city area). Average demographics apply. The main road and vicinity is really a channel for a huge mass of people moving on foot and vehicle. This picture here should give you an idea. This is the general area (probably the bus stand) on a regular day. http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyd ... 921043.ece

Same road, a little further down.... http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/27/stories ... 820300.htm

Evening 7:00 pm (or whenever the bombs went off), I can only imagine the crowds..... and the target was absolutely indiscriminate....like tossing a grenade into a mela crowd.

lakshmikanth wrote: And oh: There goes the evidence.

No Lakshmikanth, please don't do an "Indian stupidity is just like Pakistan hosing down the site" equal equal. I think if we object to Khangress' "Hindu terror" we need to avoid being tempted to make a vicious statement as a cathartic simply to display the depth of your horror and contempt. This is the sort of supercilious dismissal of Indian investigative ability that i would find on the BBC. A fit attitude for the youknowhere thread.

The area is cordoned off and the sweepings are being collected. there as as many security personnel as sweepers. Considering that one sweeper has a blue sari - similar to the uniform that many city sweepers get, the reflective jacket wearing ones may be specially employed police sweepers.

Pune blasts accused recced Dilsukhnagar in July 2012: police

see comment by john237 below the article

^Actually Dilsukhnagar comes under RangaReddy district, but is included in Greater Hyderbad Muncipal Corporation. Old city where most of muslims reside is few kilometers away. There are few muslims living there. As others said, it's a busy commercial center and lot of educational centers (I mean lot). Incidentally lot of people dead are students and recent graduates.

We had apartment exactly on that road. We lived there for six years before we moved from that place. To be precise our home is the corner apartment complex between Sai baba road and Konark Theater road. Extremely busy and crowded portion.

A lot of horse shit is being written about this place by MSM. It is one of the new areas and 90% Hindus area it is. However, Muslim areas are not too far away. These areas are on the edges of Old city. The Sai baba temple was always a target.

A lot of injured are in critical state and the death toll will increase. The networks did not clog but were stopped by the government.

SriKumar wrote: The bombs, from what I read, went off near 'Dilsukhnagar bus stand'. This should mean the main road. The area is chaotic, with lots of pedestrians, buses and cars all fighting for space. The road is a very busy thoroughfare. Others can comment but I dont believe that is an enclave for any particular religion (i.e. not like Old city area). Average demographics apply. The main road and vicinity is really a channel for a huge mass of people moving on foot and vehicle. This picture here should give you an idea. This is the general area (probably the bus stand) on a regular day. http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyd ... 921043.ece

Same road, a little further down.... http://www.hindu.com/2011/06/27/stories ... 820300.htm

Evening 7:00 pm (or whenever the bombs went off), I can only imagine the crowds..... and the target was absolutely indiscriminate....like tossing a grenade into a mela crowd.

Here is pic from Telugu paper. 7:01 marks first bomb explosion at two blocks west from Sai temple and 7:03 marks second explosion at foot bridge and opposite side of foot bridge, there is small Sakhti/Durga temple. Once terrorists blow explosives they can take any lane towards south for a mile or two to melt into old city. This is most dense area in terms of people walking around.

I agree with Shiv.Despite the chaotic manner in which we investigate crime scenes,in general,our anti-terror forensic sleuths have managed in the past to establish the type of explosive and timing mechanism ,which gives the investigating agencies vital leads as to the group responsible.

The states must now rethink on the Centre's proposed national anti-terror strategy,where Central authorities will have discretionary powers while prosecuting terrorism.Unless every state has a special anti-terror/intel team linked in real time with the national intel grid,where the intel can be swiftly analysed and states warned in time with sufficient details to foil such incidents-not just the stupid statement emanating from Shinde/Delhi,a general warning that something might happen somewhere,we will stagger as we have been doing on from one attack to the next,to the next.

The key to defeating terrorism is intelligence.Look how Britain busted a Birmingham terror group of Pakis.They also obtained info from locals as well as beat cops.The favoured locations where repeat blasts have taken place and chief public areas should have more surveillance systems.

What this f-u-c-I-n meat has to do with this topic? Some whores on the Twitter tweets and starts a global discussion around it.