Re: Nepal and Bhutan News and discussion
Posted: 07 Jul 2020 17:51
I would imagine Cheen is pumping millions of USD to buy out corrupt Nepali politicians.
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A China-owned communist scoundrel suspending parliamentary accountability? Hardly surprising. Does Nepal have a Supreme Court where this assault on democracy can be challenged? When BoJo tried this trick in the UK, the Supreme Court made him undo the prorogation.The opposition parties took exception to the Oli government’s sudden decision to prorogue the House at a time when dozens of bills were awaiting parliamentary endorsement.
As pressure mounted from his own party leaders to resign, Oli on Thursday decided to prorogue the federal parliament. The prorogation means that his opponents cannot bring a vote of no confidence against him. It also provides Oli with ground to introduce an ordinance if he wants to split the party.
Well said.“For any foreign policy, trust, credibility and coherence are of utmost importance. But we have been exercising a double standard, which effectively means we have no standard.”
Over the past days, Hou has met with President Bidhya Devi Bhandari, Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli, two senior leaders of the ruling party and former prime ministers Madhav Kumar Nepal Jhalanath Khanal and some government ministers.
The meetings come at a time when the ruling party has seen deep rifts, with a faction led by Dahal and Nepal pressing Oli to resign both as party chair and prime minister.
The crisis until last week had reached a tipping point, with Oli even signalling that he could split the party if pressure continued to mount on him to resign.
Hou had made similar rounds to ruling party leaders’ residences back in May as well when the Nepal Communist Party was in a deep trouble. Meeting with Oli, Dahal, Nepal and other senior party leaders, Hou had then advised party unity.
What you say about Ollie is true, but we should not make it sound as though "all would be well if not for Ollie". The entire system in Nepal (communist party + the anti-India "pahadi elite" who would rather let Nepalis starve than join India + extreme Chinese interference) is headed to the sh!tter. This system is the Nepali version of the Pak "we will eat grass..." mentality. Ollie is just the latest example.eklavya wrote:It’s so obvious to the whole world that General Naravane was precisely 100% accurate when he said that Oli was acting on the behest of a foreign power. Oli is a shameless traitor with zero self respect. Oli is blatantly a Chinese puppet and all pretence in this regard has been abandoned, as the Chinese Ambassador runs in a frenzy around Kathmandu trying to save her lap dog.
that's good , now India can claim Ram and Nepal by defaultbharathp wrote:"Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian: Nepali media quotes Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli (file pic)"
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/ ... ark-633961
this guy needs to be dealt with.
Well, at least we can be thankful that he didn't claim that he was Chinesebharathp wrote:"Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian: Nepali media quotes Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli (file pic)"
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/ ... ark-633961
this guy needs to be dealt with.
These kinds of claims from a commie are nothing new: commies and pinkos in JNU etc have for decades been cooking up theories that Ayodhya (Saket) in UP is not the one referred to in the Ramayana (which according to these guys either did not exist or is somewhere else).bharathp wrote:"Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian: Nepali media quotes Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli (file pic)"
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/ ... ark-633961
this guy needs to be dealt with.
But there could be a river in Nepal which he claims is the real Sarayu.KL Dubey wrote: Never heard of Birgunj or Thori, but looked them up on the map. They are nowhere close to the Sarayu (Ghaghara) river. Unfortunately there is no place in Nepal on the Sarayu river for Ollie to claim as Ayodhya.
The chogyal, who responded to the increased pressure by drinking, was viewed by India as politically dangerous, especially after his wife, the American socialite Hope Cooke, advocated a return of certain former Sikkimese properties.
In December 1950, by signing the "India - Sikkim Peace Treaty", Sikkim became India's protectorate. India took control of Sikkim in April 1973 as its associate state as the people overthrew the monarchy. On April 9, 1975, the Sikkim Parliament announced the king was deposed and declared Sikkim had become part of India through a referendum. On May 16, the Indian parliament announced that Sikkim officially became a state of India.
that shithead oli has crossed all limits.ANI@ANI · 23h
Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian: Nepali media quotes Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli
Three months after the incident, the Nepal Airlines Corporation board of directors unanimously decided not to fly two types of Chinese aircraft—the 17-seater Y12e and the 56-seater MA60—from July 16 anymore.
Of the two MA60s in the national flag carrier's fleet, one has been grounded for nearly three years.
The Chinese government said that Nepal would have to buy a number of aircraft if it wanted “some for free”. At that time, two teams—one each from Nepal and Bangladesh—had gone to China to examine the planes.
“The Bangladeshi team reported back to their government that the plane was not suitable for their country, but the Nepali experts said that it was fine for Nepal. The government then began the process to buy Chinese planes based on the experts' advice,”
Pahari says it was the worst decision on the part of the national flag carrier.
In November 2012, Nepal Airlines signed a commercial agreement with Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a Chinese government undertaking, to procure six aircraft—two 56-seater MA60s and four 17-seater Y12es.
As part of the deal, China provided one MA60 and one Y12e worth Rs2.94 billion as gift in 2014. The other aircraft were bought for Rs3.72 billion with a soft loan provided by China’s EXIM Bank.
In 2014, one 17-seater Y12e aircraft and one 58-seater MA60 arrived in Kathmandu, and in a foreshadowing of what the new era would look like, they never took to the air.
Everyone wondered why.
Nepal Airlines Corporation did not have any pilots trained to fly the Chinese aircraft. Six years later, there is still nobody to fly them.
The Nepal government has to pay an annual interest rate of 1.5 percent and a service charge and management expenses amounting to 0.4 percent of the overall loan amount taken by the Ministry of Finance as per the deal. The ministry, in turn, would charge Nepal Airlines an annual interest rate of 8 percent on the disbursed loan amount.
According to Gautam, the Y12e's performance is not up to par when it comes to flying to airports in high-altitude regions such as Manang and Dolpa, but it can fly reasonably well to airports in the hilly region.
“Many experts had said that the Y12e would be a fitting alternative to the Canadian-built Twin Otter—the corporation’s workhorse serving remote routes since the 1970s. But that proved wrong,” said the official. “It was nothing more than a white elephant.”
“We don’t know why pilots are not eager to fly these planes even though multiple pilot vacancies have been published.”
KL Dubey wrote:These kinds of claims from a commie are nothing new: commies and pinkos in JNU etc have for decades been cooking up theories that Ayodhya (Saket) in UP is not the one referred to in the Ramayana (which according to these guys either did not exist or is somewhere else).bharathp wrote:"Real Ayodhya lies in Nepal, not in India. Lord Ram is Nepali not Indian: Nepali media quotes Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli (file pic)"
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/ ... ark-633961
this guy needs to be dealt with.
Never heard of Birgunj or Thori, but looked them up on the map. They are nowhere close to the Sarayu (Ghaghara) river. Unfortunately there is no place in Nepal on the Sarayu river for Ollie to claim as Ayodhya.
Nepal Scrambles To Damage-Control Mode After Oli’s ‘Ram Was Nepali’ Comments https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/nepa ... i-comments via @swarajyamag
Oli: Rama is Nepali and Ayodhya is in NepalLisa wrote:Could someone translate for this illiterate?
Since early June, China has laid claim to the Sakteng Wildlife Sanctuary, which covers an area of 650 sq km and lies in Bhutan’s eastern district of Trashigang.
The Sakteng sanctuary adjoins West Kameng district and Tawang disticts in India’s Arunachal Pradesh state. Its strategic value lies in its proximity to Arunachal Pradesh, where China claims around 90,000 sq km of Indian territory. Tawang, the major bone of contention between India and China in the eastern sector of their border dispute, lies to the northeast of the Sakteng Wildlife Sanctuary.
In 1996, China put forward a package proposal, under which it offered to recognize Bhutanese sovereignty over the Pasamlung and Jakarlung valleys in return for Bhutan recognizing Chinese sovereignty over Doklam, Sinchulung, Dramana, and Shakhatoe in the western sector. Bhutan has not accepted this proposal to date.
According to reports in the Indian media, India plans to construct a road from Guwahati to Tawang via the Sakteng Wildlife Sanctuary. The proposed road will shorten travel distance between Guwahati in Assam and Tawang by 150 km and reduce travel time between the two places from the current 15 hours to around 10 hours.
Wackiness aside, he is trying in vain to bolster a separate "Nepali" identity that justifies a separate country.amar_p wrote:Our nrighbour PMs are trying to out do each other on who can be the wackiest
Why is Nepal even a separate country? The monarchy should never be disbanded.KL Dubey wrote:Wackiness aside, he is trying in vain to bolster a separate "Nepali" identity that justifies a separate country.amar_p wrote:Our nrighbour PMs are trying to out do each other on who can be the wackiest
However, Nepali is just a regional affiliation like Gujarati or Tamizhan. All are "Indians" and part of Akhand Bharat. A few decades of waiting for Nepal to be annexed is just a drop in the bucket of the the bigger picture.
Bhutan and Tibet are also part of Akhand Bharat. So are Pstan and BDesh, but these places are currently not ripe for discussion.
Sita was a Nepali, so what ? And even if we assume Ram was a Nepali, how does it change anything ? Ravana was from NOIDA, does it mean Sri Lanka and Bharat are separate?
Nepalis are Indians and will formally become Indian citizens in the future. Nepal has no viability or justification as a separate country.
^^This was part of Banditji's naive dreams. It is not realistic today given 70 years of experience. In the distant past, symbiotic world view with Bharat was enough. All that mattered was the view of the royal families and elites who intermarried with other royals/elites from different parts of Bharat, with the welfare of the common man essentially hinged on the magnanimity of whoever was on the throne.Yayavar wrote:Bharat did not imply single rule - just a single symbiotic world view. So Nepal could be part of the world view and prosper. Doesn't have to be part of the same nation state unless of course, Nepalis choose to do so themselves.
That may be, but the Nepali monarchy and the commies are two sides of the same fake coin. Authoritarian rule one way or the other. Nepali elections are a sham, more than 90% of the parliament is either commie or pinko.Jarita wrote:Why is Nepal even a separate country? The monarchy should never be disbanded.
No Sir, I agree with KL Dubey.. Nepal King(s) were pro India.KL Dubey wrote:That may be, but the Nepali monarchy and the commies are two sides of the same fake coin. Authoritarian rule one way or the other. Nepali elections are a sham, more than 90% of the parliament is either commie or pinko.Jarita wrote:Why is Nepal even a separate country? The monarchy should never be disbanded.
No wonder Congi upavasis were acting on behalf of western powers.No Sir, I agree with KL Dubey.. Nepal King(s) were pro India.
it was this UPAvasi govt which pulled out the support for Nepal king. I remember Congi Karan sing Meeting Nepal King and telling him to implement "democrazy"
That naivette and Nepal's desire (Tribhuvan?) died in 50's itself or certainly by 60s. Anyway, any such integration will require Nepalis wanting it too. Hoping for the best.KL Dubey wrote:^^This was part of Banditji's naive dreams. It is not realistic today given 70 years of experience. In the distant past, symbiotic world view with Bharat was enough. All that mattered was the view of the royal families and elites who intermarried with other royals/elites from different parts of Bharat, with the welfare of the common man essentially hinged on the magnanimity of whoever was on the throne.Yayavar wrote:Bharat did not imply single rule - just a single symbiotic world view. So Nepal could be part of the world view and prosper. Doesn't have to be part of the same nation state unless of course, Nepalis choose to do so themselves.
Today, full political/military/economic union is imperative in order to ensure a secure land and future for all people in the region. Akhand Bharat, not just Bharat.
The Elaborate And Perverse Beijing-Backed Plot To Break Civilisational Ties Between India And Nepal
Jaideep Mazumdar
Aug 13, 2020
The Elaborate And Perverse Beijing-Backed Plot To Break Civilisational Ties Between India And Nepal
Snapshot
Indian and Nepali people share civilisational ties that are based on the shared heritage of Hinduism and Buddhism.
Nepal’s Communists, ever since they gained critical political mass, have been trying to question and rupture this heritage.
Nepal’s Prime Minister Khadga Prasad Sharma Oli’s remark at a function in the middle of last month that the real Ayodhya is in Nepal and Bhagwan Ram was born in Nepal, and his repetition of this claim earlier this week, was not a casual claim born out of his antipathy towards India.
It was, say analysts, a deliberate and well-thought-out remark. And it was part of a gameplan to rupture the age-old civilisational ties that exist between the people of Nepal and India.
China, along with Pakistan, are part of this complex plot.
The objective is to slowly wean Nepal away from India’s sphere of influence and make it an inalienable part of a Pakistan-Nepal-China axis that will emerge as a permanent headache for India.