Internal Security Watch

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 20 Oct 2010 09:53

D Roy wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 777632.cms

The death was reported in local Malayalam dailies. If you notice the incident had happened 6 months back. The "communal angle" was always suspected in this case. If I am not mistaken Vineesh's crime was to have a love affair with a Muslim girl. The incident happened when Mahdani et.al were still at large, and the college professor's hand too was intact. Now looks like the case is getting reinvestigated. The Pol. Inspector P.P Sadanandan is considered to be a no-nonsense officer and have solved numerous crimes. Let us wait and watch how far he gets on with this case.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 22 Oct 2010 14:38

Mobile phones seized from former MP in jail http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20101022/81 ... -mp_1.html

Patna, Oct 22 (IANS) Three mobile phones were recovered early Friday from the Siwan jail ward housing former Bihar MP Shahabuddin, who has been convicted in seven criminal cases, police said.

Three SIM cards and two chargers were also seized, a police official said.

A team of district officials carried out the raid in jail in Siwan district following a tip-off that Shahabuddin was using mobile phones from behind the bars to influence the ongoing Bihar assembly polls, the official said.

Three LeT men arrested by Rajasthan ATS http://in.news.yahoo.com/20/20101021/14 ... han_1.html

Jaipur, Oct 21 (PTI) Rajasthan''s Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) today arrested three Lashkar-e-Toiba men who used to induct Indian youths and groom them before sending them to Pakistan''s terrorist camps for further training. The arrested LET men trained the Indian youths and engaged them in various terrorist activites in the country, a CID (crime) release said here tonight.

A case has been registered against all the three arrested LeT terrorists under the Unconstitutional Activities Prevention Act 1967 for perpetrating terror in the country, the release said. Preliminary investigations have revealed that the LeT commanders based in Pakistan were conspiring for anti-Indian activities to be carried out by Indians trained as terrorists on Pakistani soil.

The anti-India activities included bomb explosions, circulation of counterfeit Indian currencies, smuggling of arms and ammunition, fuelling communal riots and violence in the country and also working to ensure release of Pakistani terrorists from Indian prisons. During the course of investigations it has also come to light that the imprisoned Pakistani terrorists used to take other jailed Indian criminals into their confidence and involved them in their terrorist activities.

After their release, these criminals used to indulge in terrorist activities on the directives of the LeT commanders of Pakistan, the release said. Additional Director of Police (ATS) Hemant Sharma has been assigned the task of conducting further investigations and interrogating the arrested LeT terrorists, the release added.

aditya · Post by **aditya** » 22 Oct 2010 19:55

http://kafila.org/2010/10/22/azadi-the- ... #more-5135

Quoting Shuddhabrata Sengupta:

Going by what I witnessed yesterday, there will be many such people, so Arnab Goswami and his ilk had better start practicing how to say sorry, several hundred times a day.

Although Shuddhabrata Sengupta and his ilk can probably not be charged under IPC with issuing a threat to someone's physical safety based on the above, I very much hope MHA is watching the needful.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 22 Oct 2010 20:25

^Death threats to people not toeing terrorist line are normal by their standards

Really desperate person, starts with ad-hominem attacks and goes all blah blah frothing at the mouth and ends with a veiled one-day-I-will-kill-you type comment

Name of owner and admin running site, just in case these jokers try to act on their threat

http://whois.domaintools.com/kafila.org
Domain ID:D128464354-LROR
Domain Name:KAFILA.ORG
Created On:07-Sep-2006 06:36:23 UTC
Last Updated On:07-Sep-2010 06:25:53 UTC
Expiration Date:07-Sep-2019 06:36:23 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Registrant ID:CR8448714
Registrant Name:Shivam Vij
Registrant Organization:Caste No Bar
Registrant Street1:Delhi
Admin ID:CR8448735
Admin Name:Aditya Nigam
Admin Organization:Kafila
Admin Street1:Delhi
Admin Phone:+91.9871406520
Tech ID:CR8448722
Tech Name:Shivam Vij
Tech Organization:Caste No Bar

sum · Post by **sum** » 22 Oct 2010 21:21

Sad read as to how we are still tolerating a roach nation like Pak:
Make a ‘Super Note’!

Flight PK 268 from Karachi was behind schedule. Mohammed Farooq stared out of the window of the Pakistan International Airlines carrier and shifted uneasily in his seat. At an altitude of 9,500ft, the splendid view of the Chure Hills south of Kathmandu could not have calmed the nerves of the physically challenged Pakistani. It was not the tricky approach to the Tribhuvan International Airport, surrounded by hills, that was the problem. The butterflies in his stomach fed off the precious cargo he had with him. It was always the same; seven times in the lastfive years, six in the past two years.

As the flight landed at 6.30 p.m. on August 9 and the other passengers disembarked, Farooq waited for the airline staff to assist him. He accepted his briefcase from the flight attendant but refused the wheelchair saying he wanted to be wheeled out in his personal wheelchair bundled with his check-in baggage. That was surprising since the norm is that the airlines provide wheelchairs to the needy. As intelligence sources told THE WEEK later, their Indian counterparts had tipped them off about the possible arrival of a consignment of fake Indian currency notes from Karachi, and Farooq’s demand sounded suspicious. His wheelchair was then scanned by the X-ray machine. Neatly tucked into its cushion were fake currency notes. A thorough search of his suitcase revealed a false bottom, which contained more notes. Altogether they recovered ‘super’ fake Indian currency worth 125 lakh (3,000 notes of 1500 denomination and 1,000 notes of 11,000 denomination).

Farooq was the sixth Pakistani carrier to be arrested from Kathmandu till August this year, one of them a woman, and super fake notes worth 12.13 crore were recovered from them (last year the count was 11.5 crore). They are part of a larger plot to target the Indian economy, which has been growing at a steady pace. Pakistan's proxy war has been going on for some time, but of late they have started producing super fake notes which are very difficult to differentiate from genuine notes. Sources told THE WEEK that such notes were being printed at government-run facilities in Pakistan, especially one close to its border with Afghanistan.

A top secret document with THE WEEK shows that two serving Inter-Services Intelligence officers, Ershad Khan and Major Tayyub Ali, are directly controlling the operations and are using the Nepali soil to funnel fake notes into India through the porous, 1,800-kilometre-long border via corridors in Nepalgunj, Janakpur and Birgunj. They have direct links with two of the biggest fake currency dealers in Pakistan, Haji Talaad Ali and Ali Mohammed, says a report prepared by the Kathmandu Metropolitan Police after Farooq's arrest, a copy of which is with THE WEEK. The fake dealers are getting substantial help from the Pakistan embassy in Kathmandu, say sources. “Activities of at least three embassy officials are being monitored in this regard,” says a Nepalese intelligence officer.

In the early part of this decade, Pakistan embassy's first secretary Mohammed Arshad Cheema was said to be actively involved in the fake currency racket. The Nepal Police arrested him on April 12, 2001, with 16kg RDX. Also picked up were his wife and their two Nepali associates. Cheema and his wife were expelled two days later. A year before that, two other embassy officials, Asam Saboor and Ahmed Siraj, were on the intelligence radar for their active involvement in the racket.

The amount of fake Indian currency seized is small when you consider the fact that Farooq alone had made six trips to Nepal and seven to Bangladesh before his game was up. According to an Intelligence Bureau report prepared two years ago, fake currency worth 11,70,000 crore is in circulation in India. New Delhi should certainly be worried. More so because of Pakistan's patronage of the racket.

Fake currency kingpins Talaad Ali and Ali Mohammed take direct orders from the ISI, says the Kathmandu Metropolitan Police report. The Nepalese intelligence had earlier provided detailed dossiers on ISI officers Tayyub Ali and Ershad Khan to their Indian counterparts after the arrest of a middle-aged Pakistani woman, Mariam Wali Mohammed, from the Kathmandu airport with fake currency worth 130 lakh in July.

Sources in the Indian intelligence say that the ISI's direct involvement is significant. “They seem to have shed their dependence on Dawood Ibrahim's network,” says an intelligence officer. “They are not seeking the help of Dawood's trusted men Aftab Batki and Tahir Taklia, who have been managing the fake currency business from their hideout in the Gulf countries.”

The ISI using their modules in Nepal and Bangladesh to push fake currency into India is nothing new. Nepali nationals Ateeq Ahmed and Rajesh Gupta, arrested by the Madhya Pradesh Police from Bhopal in 2009 with fake Indian notes, had told the interrogators of the alleged involvement of Nepal's former crown prince Paras Shah in the business. As many as 22 people were arrested with fake Indian currency in Nepal this year. Most of them were linked to Talaad Ali and Ali Mohammed and, through them, to the ISI officers Tayyub Ali and Ershad Khan. The others arrested belonged to India, Nepal and Bangladesh, mostly those employed to route the currency to India.

But the most important arrest was that of Younus Ansari, son of the former forest minister of Nepal Salim Ansari, on January 1, 2010. Also picked up were his bodyguards Prakash Bhandari and Kanshiram Adhikari and two Pakistanis, Sajjad Muhammad Khurram and Muhammad Iqbal. According to the chargesheet against Ansari, which is in THE WEEK's possession, fake Indian notes worth 125,000 were recovered from him. His direct involvement in the racket became clear when the police raided Hotel Bluestar in the Thapathali area of Kathmandu and recovered three suitcases and a diary from Ansari and his aides. During interrogation, Ansari confessed that he had direct links to an Ali (intelligence sources confirmed that it was indeed Ali Mohammed). Ansari, says the chargesheet, was in constant touch with his Pakistani minders and used to make calls to one number in particular (0092-3212344860).

The chargesheet further says that Ansari had been using Adhikari as a conduit between himself and Khurram. Khurram told investigators that he took direct orders from Talaad Ali, who promised him 115,000 for the successful delivery of two suitcases to Ansari. Talaad Ali had also promised him that he would take care of the incidental expenses. It was the second time Khurram was being used to deliver fake currency. He also told investigators about Talaad Ali's connection with top fake currency operator Mohammad Nadim.

Ansari, the chargesheet says, had been to Pakistan six times and on each occasion he met Talaad Ali. He had been using Bluestar for his operations for the last two years. Vinod Kharel, an employee of the Red Planet Guest House in Kathmandu, where Ansari had rented a room for over a month in December 2009, has told the police that he had seen suitcases stuffed with Indian currency in Ansari's room.

But Farooq is an expendable pawn in the larger game played out by the ISI to weaken the Indian economy. Many more Farooqs are willing to take his place, thanks to the promise of easy money. Realising the gravity of the situation, External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna and Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao raised the issue with the Nepal authorities during their trip to Kathmandu in January this year. Three years ago, at the Munich Conference on Security Policy, then national security adviser M.K. Narayanan had spoken about fake currency being routed to India via Nepal and Bangladesh. There is immense pressure on Nepalese agencies to stem the currency flow. Sources told THE WEEK that following Farooq's arrest, Nepal's intelligence establishment has handed over the mobile numbers of Talaad (0092-3212332366) and Ali Mohammad (0092-3333473288) to the Research and Analysis Wing. And, the National Technical Research Organisation has been given a list of Pakistani numbers under surveillance, a copy of which is with THE WEEK.

Nepal's newly-constituted Central Investigation Bureau has been entrusted with the task of carrying out the probe into fake currency cases. “We hardly get any cooperation from Pakistan for the probe,” says Deputy Inspector-General Rajendra Singh Bhandari, director of the CIB.

Disgusting Pakis..

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Oct 2010 08:25

aditya wrote:Although Shuddhabrata Sengupta and his ilk can probably not be charged under IPC with issuing a threat to someone's physical safety based on the above, I very much hope MHA is watching the needful.

Whether MHA is watching and taking action will be known in the next few days. PC has replied to Jaitley saying that legal opinion was being sought on the speeches made in the 'Azaadi only' meeting.

Vivek Raghuvanshi · Post by **Vivek Raghuvanshi** » 23 Oct 2010 08:27

I think Jemaah Islamiyah is networked in India but yet flying below the radar.

What do the experts here feel.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Oct 2010 07:49

Uma Shanker IAS officer in US

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeEdMpHs ... r_embedded

There is a suspicion of strong missionary support for his visit. Most xtian cops who were responsible for Kanchi Seer's arrest were later visited USA on some grounds.
There is strong network of the EJs around him

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 24 Oct 2010 08:06

Acharya wrote:Uma Shanker IAS officer in US

There is a suspicion of strong missionary support for his visit. Most xtian cops who were responsible for Kanchi Seer's arrest were later visited USA on some grounds.
There is strong network of the EJs around him

The b@sturds! Despite myself, I shall not overly mourn unkil's coming decline. This 'soft-power', green-card bamboozle that has oft been touted and flaunted about and abused to bait our babus and cops and children of netas could very much do with loss of sheen, prestige and snob value. Only.

When half of massa has the same prospects of the below median inhabitants of Detroit, MI or a Gary IN or heck a SF when pension promises to current and future retirees have been broken; when there's scholarship dearth due to khanomic squeeze on univs -> drop in masters students putting US + when there're ZERO sponsors for H1Bs -> drop in student enrollments; when massa is no longer seen as the most dynamic shynamic and action-packed ekhanomyon Earth (don;t believe me? Japan was that dynamic economy in the 80s); when..... (you get the drift) ....
then, then we'll see how far this game takes the khanate only. IMHO, by 2012, khan will have his pants full of brown stuff to focus overly on EJism abroad including in India. AFAIK, correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but Khan's repeated attempts at finding a biz model for the EJ hordes to self-finance and self-sustain has so far (mercifully) not been met only.

Anyway, every time I lose faith in Karma she does a comeback, seems like. Do your thing, O karma. Be a beach when you have to. You've punished my country enough for sins I cannot now even fathom.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 24 Oct 2010 08:10

Can somebody translate both the videos

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 24 Oct 2010 11:45

Ignore dotty

First, the convention on azadi organised by the Committee for the Release of Political Prisoners — which seems a Maoist front — was meant to signal a grand unity of those seeking the vivisection of the Indian Union.

Second, it came as no surprise to the organisers that a convention of this nature held in Delhi attracted vocal opposition. I can fully sympathise with those Kashmiri Hindus who were agitated by the presence of someone who created the conditions for the horrible ethnic cleansing of Hindus from the Kashmir Valley in 1990. However, it is also a fact that the organisers were banking on spirited protests against Geelani to elevate a vicious message into a debate over free speech and democracy. The ease with which some TV channels fell into the trap was indicative of the larger gullibility of India’s liberal establishment.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 24 Oct 2010 14:13

Mafiosi, their lies and a fake state http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.co ... fake-state

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 24 Oct 2010 21:12

ISI taking help of separatists to woo Naxals http://www.zeenews.com/news663466.html

Srinagar/New Delhi: In an ominous development, Pakistan's ISI has roped in separatist leaders and their sympathisers to make inroads in Naxal ranks in its anti-India strategies after making a failed attempt to enlist the support of the Maoist rebels.

Some of the arrested militants and overground Naxal workers spoke about the plan of the deadly Inter Services Intelligence(ISI) after the Pakistani agency found it was not possible to penetrate the security system of India regularly, official sources said today.

The sources said there was evidence pointing to ISI desperately trying to make inroads into the Naxal ranks and had now started seeking support of Kashmiri separatists and their sympathisers in this regard for their sinister designs.

A detailed analysis of events by subversive elements in the state showed that some Naxal activities were first noticed in RS Pura in 2007, the sources said. It was also found in 2008 that the Naxals had some support base in the Jammu University, the sources said.

Another indicator to a link between Naxals and separatists in the Kashmir Valley came to light when Masarat Alam, the mastermind behind stone-pelting incidents, circulated a pamphlet about the plan for strikes by separatists.

Ironically, the pamphlet was prepared by an overground Naxal worker and at several places, even the language was the same, the sources said.

A detailed examination by the Questioner of Examined Document (QED) of the paper showed that the font used in the pamphlet circulated by the Naxal leader Kishenji and by Masarat Alam were identical and even the printers were the same, the sources said.

Over the last two years, some of the Naxal overground supporters have been visiting Kashmir Valley and Jammu regions which has been monitored closely by the authorities, the sources said. Naxals had also given a bandh call on September 29 in support of the secession of Kashmir from rest of India.

ISI had even roped in underworld cadres of Dawood Ibrahim, designated by the US as global terrorist, to woo the Naxals and an attempt to this regard was foiled only in August this year when central security agencies led an operation in which six people in Bangalore and Hyderabad were arrested.

ISI had attempted to establish contacts with Naxals with the help of underworld don Chota Shakeel for carrying out subversive activities in the country and six people have been arrested so far in this connection.

Police in Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh assisted by central security agencies in a swift operation, arrested four persons from AP and two from Bangalore. A sum of Rs 25 lakh meant for distribution to Naxals mainly in Andhra Pradesh was also seized from them.

According to officials privy to the operations, ISI had contacted Sheikh Shakeel Ahmed alias Chota Shakeel, who is at present holed up in Pakistan.

The underworld don, wanted in many cases in India, got in touch with a person identified as Altaf, alleged to be one of his touts and a resident in Karnataka, for establishing contacts with Naxals in these two states.

Altaf alias Rakesh got in touch with a person named Vinay who had promised him to introduce him to some prominent Naxal leader from Andhra Pradesh, the sources said.

Making attempts to nip in bud any subversive motive, the AP police closely monitored the activities of Vinay and in a discreet probe, it was found that he had received Rs 25 lakh through hawala channels from Altaf in Dubai as a token amount to forge a long term relationship.

Police arrested another person Shreedhar and three more associates from AP while Vinay along with one of his accomplice was arrested from Karnataka. All the six people are in jail.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Oct 2010 19:58

Pioneer reports

Holes in ATS story expose plot to implicate RSS in Ajmer case

Holes in ATS story expose plot to implicate RSS man
October 25, 2010 8:21:05 PM

Lokpal Sethi | Jaipur

Gaping holes in the Ajmer bomb blast case chargesheet have exposed the Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) design to somehow implicate senior RSS pracharak Indresh Kumar in the case.

In its 806-page chargesheet filed in an Ajmer court on Friday, the ATS claimed that on October 31, 2005, a meeting of about half a dozen persons was held in room number 26 of the Gujarati Samaj guesthouse in Jaipur. According to the ATS, the room was booked by Sunil Joshi, one of the accused, under the fake name of Manoj Kumar.

It added that the meeting was attended, among others, by Sadhvi Pragaya Thakur of Vande Mataram and Swami Aseemanand of Abhinav Bharat. The chargesheet also claimed that the meeting was addressed by Indresh Kumar, who told the others to use the cover of some religious organisation to avoid police suspicion.

While the ATS has claimed that guesthouse manager Aruna Jain had admitted during the investigation that Sunil Joshi booked the room, she denied on Sunday that anyone from the ATS had ever approach her. There was no question of her providing any such information, she added.

Talking to The Pioneer on Sunday, she said, “Since lots of people come to the guesthouse every day, I cannot remember if anyone of this name had stayed here about two years back.”

Interestingly, some ATS cops landed at the guesthouse on Friday evening after the chargesheet had already been filed in the morning. “We provided the guest register sought by the ATS personnel,” Gujarat Samaj secretary Ramesh said.

Question marks have all along been raised over the credibility of the ATS investigation in the case, in which three persons were killed near the Ajmer dargah on October 11, 2007. Within a week, ATS sleuths claimed they had cracked the case. They claimed that it was the handiwork of HuJI and they had arrested from near the dargah a shopkeeper, who belonged to Hyderabad. They also arrested a teacher-cum-cleric at a madarsa in Khandela and said he was a HuJI activist and frequently visited the dargah. The ATS changed its line of investigation after the Congress came to power in the State in December 2008.

Before his current responsibilities, Indresh Kumar was looking after Rashtravadi Muslim Manch and used to visit Rajasthan frequently. He had addressed several Muslim gatherings in Jaipur and other parts of the State to bring the community close to the RSS.

Those who understand the RSS functioning say some individuals within the Sangh were not happy with its approach of reaching out to Muslims. “Those who have been arrested or whose names figure in the chargesheet are the same elements who were opposed to such an approach and were now blaming Indresh Kumar,” these people say.

Meanwhile, asserting that Indresh was not involved in any anti-national activity, former RSS chief KC Sudarshan has charged the Congress with hatching a conspiracy to defame the Hindu organisation. “It is incorrect that Indresh is somehow linked to the Ajmer blast or involved in any kind of anti-national activity,” he told reporters at the sidelines of a function here. “The truth (that he is not linked to terrorism) will come out soon,” Sudarshan added.

“It is absolutely wrong to say that Indresh was present during a secret meeting at a guesthouse here in 2005, as mentioned in the chargesheet filed by the Rajasthan ATS,” the former RSS sarsanghachalak said. “These allegations are false,” he said, and charged the Congress with hatching a conspiracy to establish a “wrong fact” that Hindu terrorism existed in the country.

Intresting to those who track such events.

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 25 Oct 2010 20:55

Colaba towers episode some how confirms te therory that anybody beyond Lt. Col is neck deep in corruption.
Does it not compromise the security of country.
The Darjeeling land scam now Western Naval command

aditya · Post by **aditya** » 27 Oct 2010 17:41

http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/temp ... lits-62656

Temple dedicated to "Goddess English"

The temple in Banka village, whose construction began in April this year with the help of funds collected from well-wishers, was set to be inaugurated on October 25 to coincide with the birth anniversary of Lord Macaulay, whose attempts at Dalit empowerment are appreciated by the community.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 27 Oct 2010 19:42

Overzealous cops go extra mile to snare RSS leader http://www.dailypioneer.com/292446/Over ... eader.html

Rajasthan Police’s Anti-Terrorist Squad sleuths are said to be holding selective briefings to highlight the alleged involvement of senior RSS functionary Indresh Kumar in the Ajmer Dargah blast case. They had, till recently, been maintaining that a mysterious Swami Aseemanand of Ahinav Bharat was the blast mastermind.

Even after discovering at one stage that he had a “key role” in the blast, the ATS hardly ever made any serious efforts to arrest him.

In the chargesheet filed by the ATS in an Ajmer court last Friday, Aseemanand’s name did not figure among the six main accused. His name finds mention in the list of six other persons, including Indresh Kumar, who the ATS suspects were involved. It needs further investigation and interrogation to ascertain their role, the agency added.

When the ATS changed its focus of investigation — from HuJI to right-wing Hindu organisations like the Abhinav Bharat – it was zeroing in on Aseemanand as it got the lead that Sunil Joshi, Devender Gupta, Sandeep Dange, Chandrasehkhar Leve Ramji and Lokesh Sharma, the main accused, were in touch with the Swami and had also met him before and after the blast.

The ATS believed that Aseemanand had arranged for their training in his ashram in the Dang area of Gujarat, which is near the Banswara and Dungarpur districts of Rajasthan.

Even now, the ATS has little information about Swami Aseemanand, whose real name is Jatin Chatterjee. Aseemanand, who disappeared from his retreat soon after his name figured in the blast case, had set up the ashram a few years back to counter the activities of Christian missionaries who were allegedly indulging in religious conversions.

In this ‘selective’ brief, certain ATS officials claimed it was not Sunil Joshi but Indresh Kumar, under the fake name of Manoj Kumar, who had booked room nunber 26 in the Gujarati Samaj guesthouse in Jaipur on October 31, 2005. The conspiracy to carry out bomb blasts at the dargah was prepared in a meeting at the guesthouse, the officials added.

But those familiar with the working of RSS pracharaks are not willing to accept this claim. The pracharaks stay in RSS offices at their places of posting, and also during their tours. Moreover, a senior functionary like Indresh Kumar, whose headquarters during those days was Jaipur, is highly unlikely to book a room under a fake name since he was a known personality in the State capital.

For three years since 2002, Indresh Kumar — who is number three in the RSS hierarchy — was given the task of clearing the misgivings of the Muslim community about the Sangh. A new organisation, the Rashtriya Muslim Manch (RMM), was also formed for the purpose. Under its banner, a convention of Muslims was held in Jaipur, which was attended by about 5,000 Muslims.

Owing to his knowledge of the Quran, the prominent Muslims considered Indresh Kumar a friend. Waqf Board chairman Salwat Khan even hosted a dinner in his honour, which was attended by several prominent Muslims in the State capital.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 27 Oct 2010 21:26

aditya wrote:http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/temp ... lits-62656

Temple dedicated to "Goddess English"

The temple in Banka village, whose construction began in April this year with the help of funds collected from well-wishers, was set to be inaugurated on October 25 to coincide with the birth anniversary of Lord Macaulay, whose attempts at Dalit empowerment are appreciated by the community.

From the article

Chandra Bhan Prasad, the brain behind the temple

No wonder!

anjan · Post by **anjan** » 27 Oct 2010 23:28

ShivaS wrote:Colaba towers episode some how confirms te therory that anybody beyond Lt. Col is neck deep in corruption.
Does it not compromise the security of country.
The Darjeeling land scam now Western Naval command

Really? And it wasn't WNC itself that has asked for an investigation?

but no.. let's just go around claiming with no evidence that "some how" everyone is corrupt. Oh yes and the land scam that wasn't a scam. No one is claiming there is no corruption in the services. The services can in the end only reflect general society but to paint with such a broad brush with half-truths reeks of Burkha-Lite.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 28 Oct 2010 12:57

Varghese murder case: Former IG Lakshamana sentenced to life

News about one of the 'first' encounter deaths which happened in Independent India. The case was that a naxalite Varghese (murderer of one land lord and another 'suspected' police informer), in a forest area in Wayanad, Kerala. Varghese was then widely reported to have died in a police encounter. Later a CRPF constable (he died few years back) came out by declaring that he was the person who killed Varghese in a staged encounter. He said the was forced to fire at the captured prisoner by then then Dy.SP K. Lakshmana and the then DIG P. Vijayan. DIG Vijayan was let off on the basis of lack of evidence.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 28 Oct 2010 13:53

ShivaS wrote:Colaba towers episode some how confirms te therory that anybody beyond Lt. Col is neck deep in corruption. Does it not compromise the security of country. The Darjeeling land scam now Western Naval command

Can you substantiate that statement or is this an example of foot in mouth disease? And while you're at it..why leave the Lt.Col and Majors and Captains and the whole lot? After all, these are future Colonels, Brigadiers and Generals?

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 28 Oct 2010 15:13

Blast in Kanpur: Some dead

Probably a cracker/cylinder blast...

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 28 Oct 2010 15:18

Such moronically, or deliberately and maliciously, phrased posts such as that by ShivaS require a caution.
This is the first. Another one and then a ban.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 28 Oct 2010 15:35

How soon before Hindu terror angle comes out

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 28 Oct 2010 21:07

Accused in hand-chopping case wins poll from jail http://www.indianexpress.com/news/accus ... il/703903/

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Oct 2010 22:00

anjan wrote:
ShivaS wrote:Colaba towers episode some how confirms te therory that anybody beyond Lt. Col is neck deep in corruption.
Does it not compromise the security of country.
The Darjeeling land scam now Western Naval command
Really? And it wasn't WNC itself that has asked for an investigation? but no.. let's just go around claiming with no evidence that "some how" everyone is corrupt. Oh yes and the land scam that wasn't a scam. No one is claiming there is no corruption in the services. The services can in the end only reflect general society but to paint with such a broad brush with half-truths reeks of Burkha-Lite.

Bhailog,

The land belonged to the Army and the housing society is Army dominated as requisite permissions were to be granted by the Army only.

The Naval jokers simply muscled their way in as did the babus and the maharashtrian politicos.

Shameful for the Army, Navy guys to be involved in such a scam. Ex chief's too.

A firing squad is the only remedy.

Added later.

It appears that the land belonged to the state govt ( and not the Army ) and the flats were given out to anyone who could have put a spoke in the wheel as regards the requisite permissions or legitimate objections to building the flats.

The members of the Adarsh housing society were simply bought off by allotting flats in their names.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Oct 2010 22:35

ShivaS wrote:Colaba towers episode some how confirms te therory that anybody beyond Lt. Col is neck deep in corruption.
Does it not compromise the security of country.
The Darjeeling land scam now Western Naval command

In future can you post a link to avoid getting warned and banned? Thanks, ramana

CBI probes land transfer from the Hindu.

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 29 Oct 2010 01:03

Lifer for ex-IGP for Maoist’s murder

The Special CBI Court in Kochi on Thursday sentenced former Inspector General of Police K Lakshmana to life imprisonment in the case relating to the murder of Naxalite leader A Varghese over forty years ago. Lakshmana, now in his mid-70s, was also slapped with a fine of Rs 10,000.

Awarding the punishment, Judge S Vijayakumar, who had the other day convicted Lakshmana, second accused in the case, said that Varghese was shot to death by the police after capture and that he was not killed in encounter. Varghese was killed on February 18, 1970 in the forests of Thirunelli, Wayanad.

The judge had acquitted the third accused, former DGP P Vijayan, giving him the benefit of doubt. The first accused, former CRPF constable Ramachandran Nair who had shot Varghese to death on the orders of his superiors including Lakshmana, died in 2006. The CBI took over the probe into the killing in 1998 on a Kerala High Court directive.

“No more evidence is needed. It is proved beyond any shadow of reasonable doubt that Varghese, who was caught hold of live, was brutally killed by the first accused who was a stooge at the hands of Lakshmana who on his order brought about his plan,” the judge said in the verdict.

The killing of Varghese was seen as an “encounter death” till 1998 when Ramachandran Nair came out with the revelation that he had shot Varghese dead at point blank on the orders of his superiors. Nair had also submitted an affidavit stating this.

Traitors like "Ramachandran Nair " need to be shot, unfortunately he is already dead. It was only due to the actions of Cops like the former Inspector General of Police K Lakshmana that naxals were finished in Kerala

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 29 Oct 2010 11:55

Rupesh wrote:Traitors like "Ramachandran Nair " need to be shot, unfortunately he is already dead.

Lakshamana does have rights for appeal at both High Court and Supreme Court, so I guess it would be some more time before he actually have to serve his sentence out. I had a chance to read the biography of PC Ramachandran Nair. Honestly, he seems to have chosen a very wrong profession. Have been pulled up on umpteen disciplinary charges, and for having irresponsible behaviour. He was also involved in the forming of trade union like organisations in Kerala Police.

Politicisation of Kerala Police showed its ugly face once again three weeks back in Kerala, when an Assistant Commandant (in Armed Reserve camp) was manhandled by two 'police association' members (owing allegiance to CPI(M)) in front of his subordinates.

In Kerala Naxalites are even now romanticized, and the media pretty much avoids bringing up any dirty crime which naxalites have done. If they have to be reported it is spinned as a 'class war' or done purely for pro-poor justice. Nobody asks why Naxalites did not seek help of the same judiciary, which now they claim to have given justice to Naxalite Varghese. But one thing we should note that naxalism died out in Kerala not because of any media personality pleading with them, or any political leader leading them in changing their ways in a peaceful manner. Strong police action proved the naxalites that their plans for armed rebellion etc., would be treated in the most harsh manner. The police action was so strong that one of the naxal trouble makers became a Sai Baba devotee, and another bomb-thrower is now Pastor.

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 29 Oct 2010 12:03

I strongly feel that the retd generals who bought flats in Mumbai tower which in itself was a security threart should be stripped of their honors and pension commuted to one third what they are due.
CONDUCT surely unbecoming of an officer. Period.

Ramana Ji Sir: I dont make up, I just refer

From The Times February 2, 2010

‘Land Scam General’ brings new scandal to India’s armed forcesRhys Blakely, Mumbai
First came the “Ketchup Colonel” — an officer in the Indian Army who was disgraced after he was found to have faked gun battles by sprinkling tomato sauce on civilians in order to win glory, medals and promotion.

Next on the roll of dishonour was “Brigadier Booze” — an infantry commander who was dismissed for selling vast quantities of subsidised military alcohol on the black market.

India’s military is now bracing itself for what could prove to be the most embarrassing scandal yet: that of the “Land Scam General”.

The head of the Indian Army, General Deepak Kapoor, has ordered the court martial of one of his most important aides. Lieutenant-General Avadesh Prakash, who holds the position of military secretary and is one of eight Principal Staff Officers to advise the army chief, will be the force’s highest-ranking officer to face a military trial.

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Along with three other senior soldiers he is accused of abusing his position to enable a property deal involving 71 acres in the tourist region of Darjeeling. The sale of the land, which is next to the Army’s 33 Corps Headquarters in Siliguri, West Bengal, had previously been blocked because of security concerns.

The unprecedented court martial comes at a sensitive time for India’s defence forces, which are being given billions of pounds in funding to compete in an arms race against China.

Disciplinary action was taken last month against 41 officers who were discovered to have sold their weapons and ammunition on the black market in the tiny Himalayan state of Bhutan, which borders India.

One of the most brazen scams was uncovered last July, when it was revealed that army chiefs had claimed to have spent 10 million rupees (£130,000) on special silent-running “reconnaissance vehicles” for risky missions beyond enemy lines. In reality the money had been spent on 22 golf buggies, several of which were deployed to patrol the famously lush fairways of the Army’s Shivalik golf course in the serene foothills of Chandigarh.

“Golfgate” emerged from a scathing audit of military spending by India’s civil service. The investigation uncovered a litany of alleged transgressions and poor decisions after army chiefs were given new powers over their rapidly expanding budgets to ensure “strike readiness” and to combat terrorism.

Military chiefs are especially concerned about being outgunned and encircled by China, which analysts believe is ten years ahead of them in terms of building military might.

To bridge the gap more than £50 billion is expected to be committed over the next decade as India replaces dilapidated Soviet-era arms and buys everything from aircraft carriers to jeeps.

Some critics believe that the money would be better spent tackling poverty. Others fear much will be lost to corruption.

General Kapoor said that he was left speechless by the allegations levelled against the four officers in the Darjeeling land case. “Such aspects dent the image of the nation and these aberrations need to be corrected,” he said.

The court martial also came as an embarrassment to General Kapoor. It was ordered only after the Defence Minster, A. K. Antony, made a highly unusual intervention. Previously Lieutenant-General Prakash, who could now lose his rank and pension and face imprisonment, was due to receive a far less severe punishment.

JEM Ji>> Me Moron?

have you seen a Daily Mirror lately?

Well if you want to be kangroo Court Martial General you earned it. Sir

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http://news.zakhas.com/2010/02/sukhna-l ... n-prakash/
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'I have no business link with Lt General Prakash
23 Dec 2009, 1708 hrs IST
The middleman implicated in the army scam, Siliguri realtor Dilip Aggarwal is determined to cover his tracks. Aggarwal on Wednesday (December 23) alleged that he has no business links with the tainted armymen and the allegations against him are all part of a conspiracy.

Speaking exclusively to TIMES NOW, Dilip Aggarwal said, "I am being implicated, I don't know how this court of inquiry report has become a public document. I know General Prakash personally but we have no business dealings. We wanted to build the school and the land bordered the Army Golf course. We asked the Eastern Command for permission for a NOC, nothing else. That has also not been given as yet. So there is no question of getting any money. The Eastern command has not given it to us. It's like asking your neighbour when you are building a new wall. The allegations are all false"

Military Secretary Lt Gen Avadesh Prakash, Deputy Chief of Army Chief Lt Gen P K Rath, Lt Gen Ramesh Halgali and Major General P Sen have come under the scanner in the wake of allegations that a civilian land adjacent to Sukna military station in Darjeeling was sold to a private trust on the basis of a No-Objection Certificate issued by them.

Eastern Army Commander Lt Gen V K Singh, the convening authority of the probe, is believed to have sent his recommendation to the Army Chief Gen Deepak Kapoor on action against the four Generals.

Meanwhile, the Judge Advocate General today recommended a court martial against Lt General Avadesh Prakash, who has been indicted in a land scam. As the army's Military Secretary, Prakash is one of eight principal staff officers to the Army chief. He reportedly used his official position to further the interests of a businessman in what's known as the Sukna Land Scam.

The final decision rests in the hands of the Army Chief General Deepak Kapoor, even as the Defence Ministry has sought a full report on the case. Earlier, General Deepak Kapoor requested the media not to pass judgment on senior officers of the Army as it brings reduces the image of the Army. He had said, "I would request the media not to pass judgement on very senior officers of the Army as it brings the image of the Army down."

The case came to light after the Army granted a no objection certificate or an NoC to business groups and a private education trust to acquire a 71-acre tea estate adjacent to the Sukna military station. An MoU was subsequently signed between the Sukna station commander and four private entities. One of the officers indicted in relation to the case - Lt-Gen Avadhesh Prakash is one of the eight principal aides to General Deepak Kapoor at the Army HQ, who could now be court marshaled.

http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/4334899.cms

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 29 Oct 2010 16:51

ShivaS

>>Colaba towers episode some how confirms te therory that anybody beyond Lt. Col is neck deep in corruption.

Read your statement again: "confirms the theory" - whose theory? - that "anybody beyond Lt. Col. is neck deep in corruption"?

Which of the stories say this? There are enough and more news reports about this issue. Corruption happens everywhere. Does not mean that "anybody beyond Lt. Col...."

Your above statement is beyond the pale for BRF. I suggest it is acknowledged as such and not repeated.

Remember that the media can make such allegations, and the military can respond in kind. They cannot do that here. And we are read by hundreds of thousands of people. Therefore we must be extra responsible. Furthermore, the site maintains a good relationship with serving and retired officers, many of them above the rank of Lt. Col. I'm sure. So think before you post. It may sound nice or elicit a laugh from someone here, but it is highly irresponsible.

Look, how offended you seem, when I just referred to your post as "moronic". Now imagine yourself in the position of that military man who reads your post.

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 29 Oct 2010 17:30

NIA Files Chargesheet against Two for 2006 Hyderabad Terror Attack

http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=66669

National Investigation Agency (NIA) today filed a charge sheet against Mohd Zia- Ul- Haque s/o Mohd Sharif and Abdul Aziz @ Abu Rehan @ Wali, an operative of Lashkar-e-Toiba in the Court of Hon’ble Metropolitan Sessions Judge, Nampally, Hyderabad in the case of terror attack in Hyderabad in May,2006. Zia Ul Haque is presently in judicial custody, while Abdul Aziz @ Abu Rehan @ Wali is absconding.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Oct 2010 20:03

General Deepak Kapoor seems to be complicit in so many scams. He also claimed deafness in one ear ostensibly caused by an american artillery gun firing too close to his ear. For this "accident" he has claimed disability that adds a very considerably to his pension for life.

He never explained what he was doing so close to a live firing gun when even a certified moron would know better.
This, at an american firing range, where they would never have let ANYONE near a live firing gun without proper accoustic and body protection

This rather paunchy and well upholstered little man seems to have very little shame in blatantly claiming undue benefits while his soldiers died in kashmir.

So much for what's written in Chetwood hall and proudly quoted by scoundrels like this scamster and others like him.

The Indian Army officer’s credo as inscribed at the Indian Military Academy’s (IMA) Chetwood Hall, reads as follows: “The safety, honour and welfare of your country comes first, always and every time; The honour, welfare and comfort of the men you command come next; Your own ease comfort and safety come last, always and every time.”

Shoot the blighter publicly in the drill square.

negi · Post by **negi** » 29 Oct 2010 20:30

The services need to get their act together , this is not merely about a housing scam what is even more serious is this pattern of high rises being built on 'government' property in close proximity to the areas like a defence station in Colaba , Vice Admiral Bhasin has clearly articulated his pov on this issue.

Abhi_G · Post by **Abhi_G** » 29 Oct 2010 21:03

http://www.dailypioneer.com/240296/Expl ... igade.html

Exploits of the burqa brigade

An apocryphal story is told of how an infamous smuggler who operated from coastal Gujarat in the 1970s would ensure raids on his house by the police would not result in the seizure of ‘incriminating’ material and documents. Every time the police knocked on his door, whether at high noon or sunset, he would send word that he was praying and could they please wait till his communion with god was over? Mindful of not hurting ‘minority sentiments’, the police would cool their heels on the street or sit in their jeeps while his men swiftly strapped gold biscuits, cash and hawala documents to their muscular bodies. Next, each one of them would don a voluminous, ankle-length burqa and stand around their boss. The door of the don’s den would then be thrown open to the patiently waiting policemen who would troop in, move from room to room, look under beds, sofas and cabinets, and, after failing to lay their hands on any ‘incriminating evidence’, profusely apologise before trooping out. Some 25 years later, a senior police officer who was a frequent visitor to the don’s den courtesy the raids which never led to either arrest or prosecution told me, “It was so frustrating. We knew all about his trick but there was nothing we could do about it.”

Kalimuddin Shams, who would contest West Bengal Assembly elections as a Left Front candidate and was the acknowledged mastaan of Kolkata’s Kidderpore Docks, used the same trick on the day of polling in his constituency. There would be endless queues of burqa-clad voters who would refuse to show their face or have their finger inked as that would amount to ‘intimacy with strangers’. Each one of them would step into the polling booth, vote for Kalimuddin Shams, and join the queue again. Needless to say, Hasina Bano would get to vote more than once, as would ‘her’ friends. On counting day, Kalimuddin Shams would be declared the winner with a huge margin. It’s not surprising that the CPI(M) held him in high esteem: He had mastered the art of rigging elections without leaving any tell-tale evidence behind. “They were brazen about it. You could see their lungi sticking out from beneath the burqa, their hairy arms would be visible. While standing in the queue they would casually lift the veil on their face and smoke beedis. But there’s nothing we could do,” the Chief Election Officer of West Bengal told me after demitting office. Kalimuddin Shams, who never tired of reminding officials “I am a Muslim first and then an Indian” and had once famously declared (while serving as a Minister in the Left Front Government) that “Muslims form a separate nation in this country”, was not someone to be trifled with.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 29 Oct 2010 21:17

One could also take it as a warning slap to the army to shut its mouth up - especially given the intransigence over "Kashmir". such corruption could not be this just one time only, army onlee, affair! if any service personnel were caught or made to be caught pants down - then the almost continuously ruling political parties and regimes should have been "found" without undies 24/7/365.

For me, it is a kind of indirect rap on the knuckles to fall in line with what has been planned fro the Valley.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 29 Oct 2010 21:21

The system runs in such a way - that no one perhaps can attain a "higher" position unless that person "agrees" or is forced to become part of ongoing corruption processes. This is a means of controlling the potential top functionaries and that they toe the lines of some internal cabal or core group. This is how almost all institutions in India run.

So whenever you see some "scandal" coming out, immediately look for connections elsewhere where the "exposed" person or entity had not been playing pliant. Almost every time you will find a match.

ShivaS · Post by **ShivaS** » 29 Oct 2010 22:02

Ha ha I was waiting for your impeccable logic,
and was waiting for your lob....
You, I and the Services are of the same stcok. But for some reason we take Armed forces to be our role model, holy cow what not. you did not even get the context and you called me Moron, I am a confirmed moron nothing new in that, but you are no different either which confirms that none is above the norm.

FYI, I lived from 1959 to 1962 in the very same Colaba Area, I went to school in Colaba called Bombay Naval Primary school in those days. I lived in Strand barracks, My father was working in DGNP Bombay, I know the armed forces more than you can ever read...
My fathers boss was Lt. Col Nair, His boss was Col Manadear, all of Corps Of Engineers,I have had near and dear work in EME, IN, etc. But those were the days when Fauji used to carry the romantic notion of honesty, integrity and sacrifice, even today they are but the scum has reached the top.
Oh I do have near and dear work in Defnce Accounts who can tell lot more amusing stories from Gen Choudhary collecting some collectables from Faluknama Palace after the Hyderabad liberation..
Some momentos....

This is not limited only to US, even US, UK everybody has these problems..
Thats all from this yours truly Moron. I take pride do you?

Rahul Mehta · Post by **Rahul Mehta** » 30 Oct 2010 12:51

chetak wrote:The land belonged to the Army and the housing society is Army dominated as requisite permissions were to be granted by the Army only. The Naval jokers simply muscled their way in as did the babus and the maharashtrian politicos. Shameful for the Army, Navy guys to be involved in such a scam. Ex chief's too.

A firing squad is the only remedy. ] .....

Corruption in armed forces is mainly due to corruption in PMO, DefMin, top IAS et al. Our armed forced have to be under Ministers, top IAS (and nothing wrong with that), and when top is corrupt, dont expect much from next level. Necessary and sufficient condition to fix this mess is reduce corruption in Ministers, top IAS. Thats why I have proposed "Execution by Majority Vote" law to reduce corruption in Ministers, top-IAS. (see chap27 of http://rahulmehta.com/301.pdf ) .

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JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 30 Oct 2010 18:07

Nice moan there ShivaS, but no answer to the below yet.

>>Colaba towers episode some how confirms te therory that anybody beyond Lt. Col is neck deep in corruption.

Read your statement again: "confirms the theory" - whose theory? - that "anybody beyond Lt. Col. is neck deep in corruption"?

Clearly, it is nothing more than an irresponsible allegation, which is a shame. And on top of that apparently you have had close interaction with the forces. So where does this venom from? The forces are no more or less corrupt than the ordinary individual? Is that your point? Then why not make it? Is every Indian corrupt? Obviously not. I'm sure virtually every member of BRF regards himself as incorruptible, non-traitorous, non-nepotistic, etc.

We all know that no force, no body, no organisation ANYWHERE is exempt from corruption or incorruptible. It is only a matter of definition. Now, all that said, we also know that there are individuals across the board who are indeed incorruptible. It is with these individuals in mind, of whom there are plenty in the army as in politics, that I suggest strongly that people avoid calling names and labelling elected and appointed officers of the state. Unless you have names, or these names are being discussed in the media, and/or you have evidence. Like I said, remember these people cannot respond here. It is not adviseable for us to presume to be the moral or patriotic benchmark for India or Indians. We are not.

Meanwhile, ShivaS are you spinster? I just got informed that you are. In that case What the FU(K man? Spinster, boss, you have been around here for ages. You KNOW better than that, and you HAVE contributed far far more valuably than that. Come on man, you should be the one helping us to corral these types of chaps, not the other way around.

Chetak, you are heading for a ban for the "shoot the blighter comment". Exercise restraint.

We are all disappointed with the news coming out about the housing allocations. No need to add fuel to the fire.