Bharat Rakshak

ramana wrote:Altair, We know what you think but try to spens some time on what the guy is saying. The killing of Rajiv gandhi was a targetted one to stop Indian elite dea in theri tracks. After Rajiv Gandhi it has been incremental in global approach. The whole INC is in seat warmer mode.

Its like in a network the central node got eliminated.

Yes by LTTE but who prompted them?
Were they alone single handedly decided to eliminate RG?

All those guys you cite are afraidd they will meet RG's fate.
Only ABV dared to break the paradigm in 1998. As reward he got sanctions, Kargil, Parliment attack and endured all of them.
Yet in 2004 all those who are so afraid colluded to prevent him from getting re-elected. And they have been merrily looting the nation since then.

ramana wrote:The killing of Rajiv gandhi was a targetted one to stop Indian elite dea in theri tracks. After Rajiv Gandhi it has been incremental in global approach. The whole INC is in seat warmer mode.

vera_k wrote:

ramana wrote:The killing of Rajiv gandhi was a targetted one to stop Indian elite dea in theri tracks. After Rajiv Gandhi it has been incremental in global approach. The whole INC is in seat warmer mode.

The explanation doesn't fit the circumstances. INC was in seat warmer mode in 80s as well under Indira and Rajiv governments even though Chinese economic policy had changed by then. If anything, Rajiv assasination allowed PVNR to get India to change. ABV followed up with more changes whether selling off PSUs or increasing investment in education. Things are regressing back to seat warming mode ever since MMS and indirectly Sonia took charge.

But the most important thing to note is that RG did not shy away from exercising India's strategic interests. He was the one who sent IPKF to Sri Lanka, and put down the Maldives coup. It was in his time that Brasstacks was conducted, inducing much shalwar-wetting by the TSPA; and it was in his time that the PLA got a lingering bloody nose at Sumdorong Chu, after which they became utterly quiet on the Indo-China border for nearly two decades [following the 2004 UPA victory, they're back with renewed attempts to intimidate us.]

Rudradev wrote:Vera, that's not entirely the case.

shyamd wrote:Didnt PVNR try for N? Then unkil found out and they backed off?

vera_k wrote:

Rudradev wrote:Vera, that's not entirely the case.

For all of that, the domestic agenda was a disaster, whether it was the anti-Sikh riots and the judicial immunity for the perps or Shah Bano legislation. The Rajiv Gandhi administration, also enjoyed a 2/3rds majority in Parliament, so could have chosen to pretty much push through any modernising change it wished, yet it was content with taking the country back towards the 7th century.

As for the assasination, once again the question is why? In 1991, the USSR was defeated, so India had lost its patron. Limiting Indian options by bankrupting the Indian economy was quite easy, and did in fact happen to some extent during the run up to the gulf war.

The US has sought to impress upon India to lift the ban on American poultry products, arguing that they do not pose a human health risk as is being asserted by India.

“The United States maintains that the presence of paratuberculosis in dairy products does not pose a human health risk, and India should not make elimination of this bacterium a condition for issuing a sanitary export certificate for US dairy products,” the US Trade Representatives (USTR) has said in a report.(Paratuberculosis or Johne's disease is a contagious, chronic and sometimes fatal infection that primarily affects the small intestine of ruminants. It is caused by the bacterium Mycobacterium avium subspecies paratuberculosis.Paratuberculosis is a reportable disease in some states of the US.)

Since 2003, it said, India has imposed unwarranted SPS (Sanitary and Phytosanitary) requirements on dairy imports, which have essentially precluded US access to India’s dairy market, one of the largest in the world.

For example, India requires the US Government to certify that any US-origin milk destined for India has been treated to ensure the destruction of paratuberculosis, which according to India, is linked to Crohn’s Disease.

“Despite repeated requests from the United States, India has not provided scientific evidence to substantiate this assertion, and has declined to take into account evidence to the contrary submitted by the United States,” the report said.

The Indian import certificate for pork requires that importers make an attestation that the imported pork does not contain any residues of pesticides, veterinary drugs, mycotoxins, or other chemicals above the MRLs prescribed in international standards, the report said.

However, these certificates fail to identify specific compounds and their corresponding international limits, the USTR said.

The US has requested India’s authorities to perform a risk assessment to support its restrictions on pork imports and continues to press India to lift the restrictions, it added.

Observing that India maintains zero-tolerance standards for certain plant quarantine pests such as weed seeds and ergot, which block US wheat and barley imports, the report said bilateral discussions to resolve these issues, including at the senior official level, have achieved little success to date.

On June 28, 2011, US and Indian officials discussed this issue, and India agreed to collaborate further by exchanging ergot strains and testing them on barley under controlled conditions, it said.

Referring to its March 6 request for consultations with India under the dispute settlement provisions of WTO regarding import prohibitions on certain US agricultural exports, the report said India’s import prohibitions are purportedly for the purpose of preventing the entry of avian influenza.

“The United States is concerned that India has not provided a valid, scientifically-based justification for the import prohibitions,” it said.

viv wrote:Rangudu-ji, I agree that the maniac did not need any urging. (on a side note, it was delightful that he died while running, and not by cyanide capsule as he urged others to). As I noted a few posts above, there were enough deluded LTTE supporters on Indian side - like my colleague at work or engineering mates who rooted for LTTE vs IPKF.

Altair wrote: You must carry the photo of executed half-naked son of the maniac and flaunt it at will.

shiv wrote:

Altair wrote: You must carry the photo of executed half-naked son of the maniac and flaunt it at will.

Is there a link to the photo. I need it as a desktop background image.

Altair wrote:

shiv wrote: Is there a link to the photo. I need it as a desktop background image.

http://dingo.care2.com/pictures/c2c/sha ... 82_370.jpg

CRamS wrote:Guys, I know a lot of discussion on that US diplomat's view that India would have become a super power onlee if it had responded to RG's death by LTTE and brought Prabhakaran for trial. What struck about that view is the breathtaking condescension. I mean, India has been non responsive to any number of atrocities heaped on it, especially USA's TFTA non-NATO all-lie, the TSP abomination. And he finds nothing wrong with that, but somehow he picks India's non response to RG's assassination as unworthy of a super power.

Altair wrote: You must carry the photo of executed half-naked son of the maniac and flaunt it at will.