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After Rotherham, now its Sheffield. But note the use of the term "Asians".
Asian men have been targeting young girls in Sheffield, says a former care home worker. But she kept quiet because she feared she would be branded a racist if she spoke out.
It was endemic, totally endemic throughout.
The news follows horrific revelations from Rotherham, just five miles from Sheffield, of 1,400 children being sexually abused by groups of mainly Pakistani men.
South Yorkshire Police yesterday confirmed there were currently 173 live investigations into child exploitation in Sheffield.
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KrishnaK wrote:I foresee a referendum in Turkey analogous to the imminent one in Scotland, in which those living in the majority-Kurdish regions vote whether to remain part of the Republic of Turkey or to secede. Such a vote would undoubtedly endorse secession.

One of the happy side-effects of Kurdish secession would be to impede the ambitions of Turkey's rogue autocratic president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. This is no small matter, inasmuch as Turkey under his leadership represents the greatest long-term threat to Western interests in the Middle East.
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Precisely why this scot referendum business was not in our interest. We're the world's largest multi-ethnic state with diversity like no 10 other. We'll always have malcontents within the union. Gives them just that bit more.[/quote]

We underestimate Britain. While the military might may have declined, several old economic interest groups still run through Britain.
My personal opinion is that the referendum was a big fat sham. What I mean is that Britain was never at risk of dismembering because they knew the numbers and they knew how to make up for the delta. The vote was close but these guys knew the few actions that would swing it.
The next time this comes around, Scotlands identity will be so diluted that it will be a moot point. Northern Ireland has already lost it's unique Irish identity.
Now this will be used as a baton to beat up others with much more complex situations. There were already desi sellouts using this as an example of J&K.
There have been referendums across anglosphere but they lead to nothing because truly heterogeneous and unique groups have been made extinct or reduced to museum pieces such as the ethnic populations of Canada and Australia. Else they are so disenfranchised that a quart of alcohol will buy them. When the differences are virtually nil then referendums become a way of reinforcing strengths and creating a template to dismember enemies like India. And have no doubt, the biggest enemy of the anglosphere in their minds is India. Not china but India.
The one lesson other countries can take from this is that referendums should be held when chances of victory are certain. For instance don't hold a referendum in a region where there is a separatist movement raging, hold it where polite liberals are discussing secession. Of course you need the press and it's very civilized polls to tell the story. Then use it as a baton for situations that have nothing in common.
Everything is a chimera and everything is shadow play.

Look at the ethnic breakdown. They did not really have to do much to swing it. 17% of the vote was a confirm. They needed 50% of the rest which due to historical factors was not that hard. After 100 years this will be a different game. The british are past masters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Scotland
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^ I am not sure that you are right about what you are saying as England has the same 17% dilution, ie,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_England

Wales has a 28% dilution with no real independence demand ie,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Wales

and NI which does have a real successionist issue has only a 12% dilution, ie,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi ... rn_Ireland
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sc ... 47555.html
Scotland could still declare independence – even without referendum, says Alex Salmond

Demographics would see support for independence rising in the coming years, says outgoing First Minister
Ian Johnston
Alex Salmond has claimed that Scotland could declare itself independent without a referendum in the future.

The Scottish First Minister, who has said he is standing down after voters failed to back independence last week, said a referendum was the “best route” to statehood, but added that there were others.

He said if the Scottish Parliament was given more powers until “you have a situation where you’re independent in all but name … “then presumably, you declare yourself to be independent”.

“Many countries have proceeded through that route,” he said in an interview with Sky News’ Murnaghan programme.

Mr Salmond has previously said that he would accept the referendum result and that it was a “once in a generation” event. However, he said on Sunday that “there are always things can change circumstances”, saying if the UK voted to leave the European Union then Scotland or if the main UK parties failed to honour a pledge to devolve more power to Edinburgh then having another vote would be justified.

Mr Salmond also said that demographics would see support for independence rising in the coming years.

“I mean when you have a situation where the majority of a country up to the age of 55 is already voting for independence then I think the writing’s on the wall for Westminster,” he said.

“I think the destination is pretty certain, we are only now debating the timescale and the method.
In pictures: Alex Salmond's campaign for Scottish independence

“I think Scots of my generation and above should really be looking at themselves in the mirror and wonder if we by majority, as a result of our decision, have actually impeded progress for the next generation which is something no generation should do.”

Johann Lamont, the Scottish Labour leader, told The Daily Telegraph that Mr Salmond should not try to “overthrow the will of the Scottish people in some sort of coup”.

“Having decisively lost a democratic referendum on independence, Alex Salmond is now suggesting the nationalists can ignore the sovereign will of the Scottish people,” she said.

“His words are fundamentally undemocratic and an insult to the people of Scotland. Salmond may regret the result but this reaction is dangerous and wrong.”

Adam Tomkins, professor of public law at the University of Glasgow, said a unilateral declaration of independence would be illegal and “bonkers”.
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Everything is Bent in the thieved state of "Rip-Off Britain"

"F1 move imminent on an eight-team, 24-car grid, says Bernie Ecclestone"

Yes, F1 is changing again. Each season sees new changes in an attempt to create interest. There's also the usual Punch 'n Judy shows. Michael Schumacher had spats with both truck driver, Damon Hill and David Coulthard. Now Lewis Hamilton has spats with Jensen Button and Nico Rosberg. Like everything, but everything in "rip-off Britain" it's as fake and rigged as wrestling. How else would you explain a sport where the Anglos actually dominate rather than their usual also-ran performance and Jensen Button, caught cheating with a hidden fuel compartment, a World champion?!?!?!? That's as ridiculous as the Yob Gear moron getting, not one, but two honorary Ph.D.s. The Great Satan didn't even give them any medals at the Olympics the last time it was held in the thieved state of Amerika but they awarded themselves third place in 2012.

Similarly, the rosbifs can't cook, have no art they haven't thieved, no literature, no music, their entire krudmobile industry has imploded and they've thieved their way through their entire history especially during their so-called "industrial revolution", yet you're supposed to believe that they have some of the World's best yooniversities according to London based QS. Next they'll be telling you that Heston Blumenidiot has opened a restaurant without poisoning his guests! They say that in China, students believe that hard-work will lead to success. But in the thieved state of Poodleville, they say it's not what you know but who you know.

Yet again the Anglos favour the under-dog because they ARE the under-poodle. Jonny Foreigner gets the **** end of this faux-socialism with his people genocided and his natural resources thieved.
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Dear Salmond you go girl. mo pawah to you my mon.
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Salmond effect in Kiwiland! The Commonwealth is unravelling.I forsee great difficulties for it to survive after QE-2 passes on.
Salmond;s warning that Scotland may declare independence unilaterally if Westminster "welshes" on the promises made must be taken seriously.I predict a landslide win for the SNP at rhe next election when the "NO" voters realise that they've been shafted truly and properly by the English.

We may even have a demand for a "Northern England" from the Mancunians,Liverpudlian and Yorkshiremen,York once being the capital of merry old England in the past,for powers similarly enjoyed by N.Ireland !

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 49547.html
New Zealand may ditch flag to shed colonial ties to Britain

Prime Minister John Key said he wants referendum to be held next year, putting current flag up against an alternative
Gyles Beckford
Wellington
Monday 22 September 2014

New Zealand may vote next year on changing its flag, the newly re-elected Prime Minister, John Key, said today, as the country seeks to assert an identity independent of colonial ties to Britain.

Mr Key’s centre-right government was returned for a third three-year term in a resounding win on Saturday, promising to continue steady economic management and controls on spending, and possible tax cuts.

Asked about his promise of a referendum on a change of flag, Mr Key said he wanted it to be held next year, including finding an alternative and then putting that up against the current flag. “I’m obviously a big supporter of the change, I think there are a lot of strong arguments in favour,” he said on the Radio Live network.

Mr Key has previously said he wants a flag uniquely New Zealand in character that would be recognisable around the world.

The current flag was adopted at the start of the 20th century and features the British Union flag in the top-left corner with the four red stars of the Southern Cross on a blue background. It is often confused with the similar-looking Australian flag.

Silver fern flag Silver fern flag Mr Key has backed a new flag with a silver fern on a black background but he admits there would be strong arguments to retain the current flag.

REUTERS
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How a Debate Was Won in London Against British Colonisation of India, by Shashi Tharoor
o commemorate the 400th anniversary of the British presence in India -- King James I's envoy, Sir Thomas Roe, arrived at the court of Emperor Jehangir in 1614 -- the Indo-British heritage Trust held a debate, in the chamber of the UK Supreme Court, on the motion "This House believes that the Indian subcontinent benefited more than it lost from the experience of British colonialism." Needless to say, I spoke against, alongside two Indophile Brits, authors William Dalrymple and Nick Robins. The proposers were Pakistan's Niloufer Bakhtyar, an editor, Martin Bell, former BBC war correspondent, and Kwasi Kwarteng, a Conservative Party MP of African descent.
At the beginning of the 18th century India's share of the world economy was 23%, as large as all of Europe put together. By the time we won independence, it had dropped to less than 4%. The reason was simple: India was governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain's rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.
The day we defeated the motion, Scottish voters rejected the proposal to leave the United Kingdom. But it's often forgotten what cemented the Union in the first place: the loaves and fishes available to Scots from participation in the exploits of the East India Company. Before 1707 the Scots had tried to colonize various parts of the world, but all had failed. After Union with England, a disproportionate number of Scots was employed in the Indian colonial enterprise, as soldiers, sailors, merchants, agents and employees. Earnings from colonialism in India pulled Scotland out of poverty and helped make it prosperous. With India gone, no wonder the bonds are loosening..
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Maybe Shashi Tharoor needs to edumacate MMS about how the Brutish came to India.
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Sometimes I wonder how the heck Shashi could remain in Congress, which is nothing but an extension of colonialism.
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The statement was expected from Salmond. He's right - the young wanted out of the UK, while the old voted to stay. Ten years down the line, the old would have moved on, the UK would have fallen back in GDP rankings, and the way things are going, they'll have a much bigger Islamic problem. The lure of trade with a much-expanded India, and tourist earnings from wealthy Indians, will work this time to dissolve the UK, unlike the last time in 1707 when India brought those diverse tribes together on a plunder-fest.

India needs to keep chugging along at a hectic pace in the meantime.
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Looked for video of the debate but could not find it. Pls post if found.
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ramana wrote:Maybe Shashi Tharoor needs to edumacate MMS about how the Brutish came to India.
LokeshC wrote:Sometimes I wonder how the heck Shashi could remain in Congress, which is nothing but an extension of colonialism.
India can learn from Scottish vote: Shashi Tharoor
In reference to the Congress party, Tharoor pointed to the recent by election results where the ruling BJP held only three out of 11 seats as an "indication of hope".

"I don't think people should feel there is any cause for despair. The values of the Congress party are being robustly defended in Parliament and outside. We certainly haven't given up. I would say with some pride that we are punching above our weight in the Lok Sabha," he said.

"We are only 44 but we are heard, we are noticed, we are contributing to the debate. At the same time we are being constructive," he said.

Tharoor said his party did not believe in the BJP's "politics of destruction" which paralyzed the House completely when they were in opposition.


Regarding the party's leadership being entrusted to the Gandhi family, he said, "Ultimately in a political party it is political credibility that dictates their presence at the top of the party. Sonia Gandhi has now won two elections and lost two elections. But she has shown the capacity to lead the party from the doldrums to the top".
Take a trip down your memory lane and remember what happened to Mrs. Tharoor when she made certain revelations, why Mr. Tharoor had a case slapped against him w.r.t. singing of our national anthem or why he was constantly caught with his foot in mouth. Make no mistake he is a coconut and is in the right party.
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This is serious - I'm not sure why this "highly civilized" British predator child molester is facing court in England while crimes were committed in India and Thailand.
British Airways pilot had sex with boys during layovers in India, prosecutor says (in Chennai)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/b ... -1.1950588
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So the young Scots don't want to punch above weight? What made the youth of Scotland get along till now then, hainji! Only time can tell, I say(in my defense only), no?
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To be fair, we at BRF have also been guilty of criminal complacence reg. this referendum. A Dilbu anti-jinx (or five) would have been in order. But was it ever done? I hold myself guilty among the rest, and will subject self to le-education.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 422553.cms

Islamic terror: Raids across London, Anjem Choudary held
LONDON: Radical preacher Anjem Choudary is reportedly among nine arrested in London raids on suspicion of 'encouraging terrorism' on Thursday.
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pankajs wrote:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 422553.cms

Islamic terror: Raids across London, Anjem Choudary held
LONDON: Radical preacher Anjem Choudary is reportedly among nine arrested in London raids on suspicion of 'encouraging terrorism' on Thursday.

It took this long? This moocher and pox on civil society should have been behind bars a long time ago.
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Fin Christmas tree decorations on display what!

From Salmon(d) to Sturgeon to lead the SNP.Very fishy indeed!
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The envy and malice and spite goes on and on.....

How can India afford a space programme?
Why does Britain still send aid to India when it spends it on the space race and giant statues?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/lett ... qus_thread
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Haresh wrote:The envy and malice and spite goes on and on.....

How can India afford a space programme?
Why does Britain still send aid to India when it spends it on the space race and giant statues?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/lett ... qus_thread
Haresh wrote:The envy and malice and spite goes on and on.....

Haresh, well said what the UK public doesn't know, is that neither DFID nor the UK government can account for whether the funds were transferred to the Indian government. A lot of it was channeled to "responsible" NGOs and the rest used as export credits for uk financial firms in the region according to Peanuts Muckerjee.
The sublime irony is that the UK may have spent close to a billion usd over an 8 year period to try and shut down India space efforts which pose a challenge and presents a huge market.
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JE Menon wrote:Looked for video of the debate but could not find it. Pls post if found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCwi6NGpbCI
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Tx boss
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ramana wrote:Maybe Shashi Tharoor needs to edumacate MMS about how the Brutish came to India.
If only tharoor had considered the Indian Railways he would have spoken for the other side like MMS did. Would India have ever progressed without the IR and LALOO??
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hnair wrote:
JE Menon wrote:Looked for video of the debate but could not find it. Pls post if found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCwi6NGpbCI
Thanks for sharing the link. I went through Tharoor's speech and it was good - the way he demolished the motion that "British Colonialism was good for the Indian Sub-continent". The motion was supported by majority of audience (held in the UK supreme Court premises) prior to the debate but the motion got rejected by a bigger proportion after the debate.

I particularly liked his statement ... "of course the sun never set on the British empire because even the God was afraid to deal with the British in the dark".

I would definitely use the points that he gave for assertions like "Britain gave English language to India"... "Britain gave Railways to India (particularly the point on how British investors made 2 times more profit building a mile of Indian railway line that was twice costlier than same line in Canada or Australia)" and etc.
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Yup, Tharoor did well. He and Dalrymple were the best speakers. The black dude was pretty good as well, probably next best.
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A 'missile' launching system was found in Britain. Could be handi-work of "Asian" groups, probably due to influence of Islamic state.

Desis in UK please be vigilant around malsi people & ask your children to avoid malsi areas.

SPECIALIST POLICE INVESTIGATE "SUSPICIOUS ITEM"
Specialist police officers spent several hours investigating a mystery object today after they were called to reports of a missile launching system being discovered off the Old Kent Road.

Nearby businesses were evacuated after the "suspicious item" was discovered in a skip at 11.25pm behind Halfords.

One witness said it was "empty" but specialist officers were still investigating the item three hours later.

Two men in plain clothes, who arrived in an unmarked car, appeared to be covering the item in cardboard so it could be removed.

Other bins in the area were also searched.

A spokesperson for the Metropolitan police said: "Police were called at approx 1125hrs on Friday, 26 September to reports of a suspicious item in a skip in the Old Kent Road, SE1."

"Officers are on scene. A small cordon remains in place."
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Pardon me if this was posted here before. I have renewed respect for Mr. Shashi Tharoor after I heard this speech. He clearly describes how 'Great Britain' was built using looted wealth from India. He shows the hollowness of British claims of democracy and humaniatarianism by citing examples of cutting off fingers of Indian artisans and the Bengal famine. Jingo khush hua! Starts from 32 minute onwards in the video.
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And that is why i am having cognitive dissonance. CON party is not the place for a person so aware as Tharoor. I know he is an elitist and all that, but even so, there is nothing wrong with being an elitist nationalist right winger in India.
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I am sure there are a number of Congressmen whose antipathy towards Modi was a function of their ignorance of the man himself, the constant bombardment of propaganda on all fronts regarding his and his party's faults, and of course the posture of the Gandhi family...
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The term "elitist nationalist right winger in India" is a paradoxical term w.r.t. India atleast because I am yet to see or hear of an elitist who hasn't whored himself/herself out to get to that position in the first place. This debate looks a totally setup deal, before the debate people were for it and after all the verbal volley's suddenly they were against it with a pretty good margin vallah !!!!! What has been Tharoor's previous achievements in educating people about the ills of british empire ??? How come suddenly we have Mr. Tharoor acting all macho and participating in debates bashing the british empire ??? Has he done the same before as well ???

Since the government at the center is a different beast now hence all this posturing by these elitists, nothing more nothing less.
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rgosain,

The UK media has whipped this up.
The right wing media have been stirring up a hatred for India and exaggerating this so called "aid" and rape/women's rights business.
It is just envy and bitterness. I always say to any gora who mentions aid+poverty+Indian space+Indian missiles+defence etc
"you ruled (or should that be "ruined") Indian for 250-300 yrs, you didn't care about the poor and starving then, why do you care now? nobody asked for your aid"
There is definatley a racist angle, they (the newspapers and the readers) are incredulous that India could progress so much without them at the helm.
Note the comment by "Panda@W@R " he claims that NASA and other white western countries are secretly providing the tech and ISRO is just a front ie. the darkies are too stupid to do"
IAF101 puts in some dammed hard and factual blows and is dismissed as a troll.
These people live in the past in a colonial time warp.

The left wing media, well what to say about them?? The al guardian, islam's mouth piece in the UK. Written by Oxbridge educated champagne socialists, who all watched the film Gandhi, joined the SWP and love labour, well the love that other bunch of Oxbridge (Doon/JNU) educated champagne socialists, who all watched the film Gandhi, joined the SWP (Congress) and love labour (the Gandhis)

I was born in London and have lived here all my life, I don't have a deep understanding of Indian politics and I would never get involved in it, but I am dammed glad Modi is PM. A man of vision, an achiever, a worker. The west now have someone to contend with, not the compliant corrupt useless Gandhis. Although I am Punjabi, I do one day intend to visit Gujarat and his home town.

END OF RANT
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LokeshC wrote:And that is why i am having cognitive dissonance. CON party is not the place for a person so aware as Tharoor. I know he is an elitist and all that, but even so, there is nothing wrong with being an elitist nationalist right winger in India.
Lokesh-ji,
Don't know if you have ever spoken to Mani Shankar Liar, but I have. The man is brilliant, has all the details of events at his fingertips. Had he chosen to put his brains at the disposal of India, he would have been another Subramanian Swamy. But he is perverted, has prostituted his brains to the Gandhi family (which, to be sure, raised him from nowhere). So, there is no hope of the country benefiting from his brains. Shashi Tharoor appears to be another such - a brilliant man, sadly lacking integrity, honesty and a vision beyond himself.
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gork:
All They Have Is Their Lies

"Four British institutions ranked in top five of world's universities", reports the Guardian. Considering the US and UK have thieved their way through their entire histories, this should NOT come as a shock as it's obviously a load of BS. The thieved state of Amerika continues to parasite off the rest of the World with its "worthless paper" currency, so more worthless paper degree certificates should be no suprise.

The rankings are rank. The organisation, QS, is based in cesspit London, so the rankings are guaranteed to be lies. Like the US, which imposes a 12.2% quota on Asian stoodents, the UK also has a flagrantly speciest edukashun system because the Anglo is so fick that they even had a fraudulent diploma in "self-awareness" which Jeremy Paxton's response to was, "you're joking!"

War criminal, Barack Obama, was awarded the Nobbled peace prize even before taking office, whilst his predecessor, convicted war criminal, Shrub, is a graduate of Harvard and Yale both of which also feature highly in the QS rankings.

The corrupt "Corruption Perceptions Index", advertises the fact that it's corrupt in its own title.

The UK slandered japanese cars as "jap crap", but now the UK and US krudmobile industries have both imploded and the amerikan krudmobile industry has been bailed out by the banksters who can print "worthless paper" out of thin air (though not for much longer).

Caltech has the highest IQ ratings in the thieved state of Amerika because California bans the speciest apartheid 12.2% quota and over 40% of its graduates are Asian despite being barely 4% of the population. Shootings at US skools are mostly when stoodents realise they've been ripped off. Extrapolating from California, virtually all gradyooits in the UK should be Asian. Instead, they're slug-brained Anglos, many of whom can't even reed and rite at an adult level and where UK companies (and the yooniversities themselves) complain they need remedial training. The latest speciest apartheid policies in the UK had Aberdeen complaining it was "social engineering", only for yooniversities minister, Willets, to openly announce a speciest, apartheid bias in favour of "white working class males". Oxford and Cambridge are particularly notorious for their speciesism.

Chinese and Indians are more likely to be poor due to speciesism in the UK, whereas Anglos are more likely to be poor because they're congenital f***wits: Figures show that only 32.3 per cent of white pupils entitled to free school meals achieve five A* to C grade passes at GCSE including maths and English, compared to 76.8 per of Chinese children and 61.5 per cent of Indians. The average for all pupils was 60.6 per cent.
- Longer school days will help learning crisis in white working class children, DfE says

So the dumbass policy is to flog the brain-dead horse even more, or rather keep them out of jail. And the speciest bias has also been noted: Mary Bousted, general secretary of the Association of Teachers and Lecturers, said: “We welcome the focus on underachieving children but would like to see it applied to all underachieving children, whatever their ethnic or socioeconomic background.

The PISA rankings are set by the OECD and have placed Shanghai top for Maths, Science and Reading.
Second placed are Singapore, Hong Kong and Hong Kong, respectively.
Third placed is Hong Kong, Singapore and Singapore.
Fourth placed is Taiwan, Japan, Japan.
Fifth placed is Free Korea, Finland, Free Korea.

For Maths the thieved state of Poodleville comes 26th, the thieved state of Amerika, 36th.

For Science, "rip-off Britain" comes 20th, the Great Satan, 28th.

For Reading, the two "gangster-run" states come 24th and 25th and blacks had a higher literacy rate DURING SLAVERY than white Amerikans.

The fraudulent Nobbled prize in quackonomics has been awarded to Amerikans all but one time and is notorious for awarding the prize to quackonomists often with diametrically opposing views. Paul Krugman is universally derided as a quack, for example and of the last winners, Shiller derides Fama's efficient market hypothesis, which denies that the markets are all rigged. Recently, undergrayooits at US and UK yooniversities protested they were being taught quackonomics, including their most prestigious, Cambridge and Harvard.

Similarly, the UK awarded Heston Blumenidiot three Michelin stars amidst claims that his Daft F*** restaurant was "the best in the World", despite ridiculous recipes contradicting advice from Gordon Ramsay (just two Michelin stars) that flavour rather than whizz-bang show was paramount and prior to Blumenidiot poisoning guests not once, but twice.
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nageshks wrote:
LokeshC wrote:And that is why i am having cognitive dissonance. CON party is not the place for a person so aware as Tharoor. I know he is an elitist and all that, but even so, there is nothing wrong with being an elitist nationalist right winger in India.
Lokesh-ji,
Don't know if you have ever spoken to Mani Shankar Liar, but I have. The man is brilliant, has all the details of events at his fingertips. Had he chosen to put his brains at the disposal of India, he would have been another Subramanian Swamy. But he is perverted, has prostituted his brains to the Gandhi family (which, to be sure, raised him from nowhere). So, there is no hope of the country benefiting from his brains. Shashi Tharoor appears to be another such - a brilliant man, sadly lacking integrity, honesty and a vision beyond himself.
I have heard MS Iyer speak, and at the time I was pretty impressed. Didn't even notice his English style, so it wasn't with his oh-so-refined Oxford English that I was impressed. It was with his forceful style and confidence in front of an audience which wasn't entirely friendly. At one point, one guy in the audience even stood up and said to MSI - "could you please give shorter answers to the questions?" And MSI managed to charm the rest of the audience by saying "No I cannot," and then deliberately running on and on with his reply, and ending with "I'm a long-winded old boy." His anecdotes were also interesting, I only remember one, no point recollecting it here. This man deliberately chose the dark side for reasons best known to himself. The term "moral compass" is so often abused, but seriously, this man does seem to be lacking this essential compass. He could have done so much better with his talents.
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^^It is appropriate guidance which is missing. And it is NEVER too late in most cases. In MSA's case though, it probably is. I've been watching both these chaps for quite sometime, and Tharoor is a completely different beast from MSA. But you are right, both could have been on the side of light. They have been blinded by the darkness, to twist a phrase...
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@JEM-ji, @Lokesh-ji,
In one-to-one conversations, MSA is even more charming and brilliant than in public-speaking. I first had my direct chat with him when I was in my high school, and it was like being face to face with a walking encyclopaedia, an awe inspiring experience, in fact. Particularly on world affairs, and history after 1800, MSA can probably match most historians with his knowledge of the minutiae. But he is totally gone to the dark side, according to MEA officials who know him well, because he lacked integrity, and this was latched on by the Congress party, which bought him over. Let us be frank-exactly what material benefits has being pro-Hindu, pro-India brought Subramanian Swamy? He was kicked out of Harvard, he has been hounded by Indira Gandhi's security officials, he has fallen on the wrong side of most politicians, who have made life miserable for him, on more than one occasion. Not exactly an attractive proposition, is it? Contrast that what Shashi Tharoor and Mani Shankar Aiyar have gained. Both have had ... lucrative careers, shall we say? Both have gained richly for being on the side of the ruling circles. So, I wonder if it is more a question of money, (and in case of Mani, also his Communist ideology).
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No disagreement there. My feeling though is that, with Tharoor, there is a possibility of reeling him towards reason. MSA is a lost cause.
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