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My dhoti shiver is what if more Billion $$ are made available in next elections by Sorrows ? What if Eleven decides to take panga now? I think we have an asymmetric fight here and we are oblivious to its repercussions
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When all is said and done..
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On this sacred day, it is confirmed that NDA is making govt for the 3rd time. We are grateful to the people. For the first time since 1962, a government has returned to power after completing two consecutive terms...

Jai Jagannath!

Congress has been wiped out in Arunachal Pradesh, Andhra Pradesh, Odisha and Sikkim. BJP is going to form govt in Odisha. BJP won a seat in Kerala as well… our party workers in Kerala have made a lot of sacrifices,..
People have placed their faith in NDA, for a third consecutive time! This is a historical feat in India’s history. I bow to the Janata Janardan for this affection and assure them that we will continue the good work done in the last decade to keep fulfilling the aspirations of people. I also salute all our Karyakartas for their hard work. Words will never do justice to their exceptional efforts," "
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S_Madhukar wrote: 04 Jun 2024 18:51 My dhoti shiver is what if more Billion $$ are made available in next elections by Sorrows ?
The dude is 93. Will be in grave before next elections
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Putin won with 87% of vote.

Iran's Raisi won with 72% of vote.

Modi got 37% of the vote.

But West is skeptical of India's democracy.
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sanjayc wrote: 04 Jun 2024 21:45
S_Madhukar wrote: 04 Jun 2024 18:51 My dhoti shiver is what if more Billion $$ are made available in next elections by Sorrows ?
The dude is 93. Will be in grave before next elections
His son is in charge now.
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t ... 252681.cms

Why A Sub-300 Seat Modi Suits The West

Dated 19 MAY

India’s refusal to toe the Western line on Russia and Iran has irked the US and its allies who believe a more modest winning margin for Narendra Modi in 2024 would best serve the West’s interests
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^^^

I read the article carefully. While I agree with the general thrust of the argument. I have a the following additional comment to make.

If the west is able to engeneer such an electoral outcome inside India because it suits their interest. Then India is no longer an independent country.
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@pratyush .. I dare say it is still not fully independent unfortunately. This kind of game will not work on China or Russia ..hence proxy wars and sanctions .

Also why the west pushes for "democracy" .. it gives ample levers

There is a deeper game . The west will likely use one of the "kingmakers" to prod modi.

One target is de dollarization by BRICS
Second target is Russia.
There is more to come.
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drnayar wrote: 05 Jun 2024 06:41 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t ... 252681.cms

Why A Sub-300 Seat Modi Suits The West

Dated 19 MAY

India’s refusal to toe the Western line on Russia and Iran has irked the US and its allies who believe a more modest winning margin for Narendra Modi in 2024 would best serve the West’s interests
Hence my suspicion about EVM engineering by Whites. The shocking results (against all poll predictions) are just too convenient for West in cutting Modi down to size. Coincidence?
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1) Then how do you explain the specific performance from the SP in UP.

2) EVM cannot be tampered with. Stop being a fool.
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Pratyush wrote: 05 Jun 2024 09:54 1) Then how do you explain the specific performance from the SP in UP.

2) EVM cannot be tampered with. Stop being a fool.
build enough narratives

1] for muslims to consolidate their vote
2] personal attacks on pm
3] did anyone notice AI generated pappu speeches where he seems logical ?!
4] but foremost being western engineered cohesion among the opposition !. they have gamed this to the full extent.

for once pervasive social narratives have worked against BJP due to sustained western interests , soros money etc playing their part in bringing diverse parties together ALMOST every STATE.

If you can model a computational simulation of weather with enough paramenters , so can you game an election in a "democracy" ...

they seeem to have done some little experiment before to see how oppositional cohesion would work against Modi... this time the whole exercise was on a much larger scale.

BJP needs to up its game
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BJP needs to up its game
Absobloodylutly. A lot of BJP guys have become freeloaders. Thinking that Modi will lift them up.

These people have to start heavy lifting.
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Indian elections are hugely important not just for India .. there is just too much at stake.

China wants pappu in
US led west and soros and co [ CIA ] wants Modi to cut down to size

Agendas will become apparent in a year or so down the line... I for one do not think Modi will take diktats from Naidu or anyone else [ and i hope this be the case, sticking to power belying once own principles is a political death for a statesman of his stature] ., in such a event there could an opposition "alliance" that is bound to fail big time.

BJP / NDA needs to prepare for another election in 2-3 years. Period. This time bring the fight to the people. Tighten social media access and have greater grip on cryptocurrency movements that i think had a large part in financing certain parties.This is war. Interference in another countries elections is nothing else.
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Snakes of AAP have to be crushed at the same time.

Or else Kejriwal post a potential acquittal will be an in your face nightmare to deal with.
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Had BJP got atleast 260, I wouldn't be dhoti-shivering...
Now, they got only 240... Completely dependent on Naidu and Nitish...
I guess I'll continue to dhoti-shiver through out the next 5 years about potential breakup of NDA and fall of Govt. :(( :(( :((
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drnayar wrote: 05 Jun 2024 10:54 Indian elections are hugely important not just for India .. there is just too much at stake.

China wants pappu in
US led west and soros and co [ CIA ] wants Modi to cut down to size

Agendas will become apparent in a year or so down the line... I for one do not think Modi will take diktats from Naidu or anyone else [ and i hope this be the case, sticking to power belying once own principles is a political death for a statesman of his stature] ., in such a event there could an opposition "alliance" that is bound to fail big time.

BJP / NDA needs to prepare for another election in 2-3 years. Period. This time bring the fight to the people. Tighten social media access and have greater grip on cryptocurrency movements that i think had a large part in financing certain parties.This is war. Interference in another countries elections is nothing else.




drnayar ji,


We are overestimating the importance of paltu chacha and the reptilian babu.

They are already in the best position that they can hope to be, and have little to no options in the opposing camp. Their combined seats will not help the dotty gang reach the magic number, and the PM gaddi is anyway beyond their reach even, if they switch allegiance.

they are both ambitious, transactional, selfish, not overly burdened with a conscience, and ideology neutral with a publicly professed love for the jihadists

They will each make demands from within the NDA and plunder the center of resources, under the guise of "helping" their state
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Pratyush wrote: 05 Jun 2024 11:02 Snakes of AAP have to be crushed at the same time.

Or else Kejriwal post a potential acquittal will be an in your face nightmare to deal with.
AAP/ Khujli was/is a little experiment of the company [you know which] to see what works in India's context .. he is still useful for them ..

A large section of the electorate needs more education and be able to discriminate narratives and think for themselves. This is taught at school level in the UK !!

People need to be able to think about the future, the future of their kids and what country they want it to be
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Naidu and Nitish Kumar think they are the modern day Sayyid Brothers however what awaits them if they play their cards too strong is the same fate as that of the duo from the Mughal times.

Naidu needs to stabilise and clean up the ecosystem in Andhra, too much muck has built up there and needs his full attention. Apparently his son has become popular in recent days with a lot of pada yatras and needs to hand hold his ascent to the CM chair what with Junior NTR having strong CM ambitions. Naidu is even ahead of Modi in developmental thinking and will most likely not claim any central cabinet positions. Maybe a MoS at best. He will extract guarantees from Modi of no cabinet positions in AP and overall support to special status and new capital.

Nitish cannot be predicted. This reptile is of a special breed!
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https://www.indiatoday.in/elections/lok ... 2024-06-05

Same trick as in karnataka and telangana
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https://indianexpress.com/article/polit ... e-7933975/

Sunil is the man behind. He is the one who prints guarantee cards etc. It worked in karnataka and telangana, now in UP.
Worked for PK. BJP is not paying attention. They have become clueless party
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We need a Universal basic income scheme
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And all these people are going to be very happy when they find such guarantee is worthless
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It is impossible. While they managed to empty the state treasury in Karnataka to fullfill all 5 promises without delay and without disruption, doing it at a national scale will make us Zimbabwe overnight! As per govt's estimates, there are around 6.5 cr families BPL, calculate 1.5 women per family you end up with 100 m women who qualify for Rs 1 lakh/ yr! That's one of the many promises they have made, the others are 30 lakh govt job, GST free farm trade, MSP guarantee etc.
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vijayk wrote: 05 Jun 2024 16:01 We need a Universal basic income scheme
Unless NRC, new census are done we can't do UBI.

Even then it will become an unaffordable trap, like reservations, old pension scheme, govt and army jobs to all etc.

Even becoming a middle income country won't be enough given we are 1.4B+ already.

Kuch bhi post mat karo Bhai...
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As per 2011 survey, the number of BPL cards issued by states is 11 Crore. Accounting to population increase, this may be 13 crore now. 1 lakh per car per year is 13 lakh crore per annum or about 30% of total budget outlay of 2024. The only way this can be implemented is by having the inheritance tax but then, it gets us back to the 1990 type of crisis. What congress hopes is to distribute free for 10-15 years, engineer a demographic change to suit them and then rule indefinitely.
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https://x.com/MinhazMerchant/status/1798334163235549380 ---> If Nitish flips, NDA would still be 281 (293-12). Chandrababu’s not going anywhere because he needs huge funds from the Centre for building Andhra’s new capital city Amaravati. If Naidu won’t go, Nitish won’t either because it won’t affect 281. He knows that. At Modi’s mercy.
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triank wrote: 05 Jun 2024 18:23
Good, Although we should pause a bit on the "Chanakya" and 4-D logic stuff, The strategy and planning being hyped up for MH and UP certainly didn't pan out as expected and will need a re-think
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Time to close this thread and move everything to 2024 Lok Sabha Elections Exit Polls & Results

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