Commonwealth Games-New Delhi 2010

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 13 Oct 2010 19:03

I want more. Can we have Hockey Gold ,Please

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Oct 2010 19:06

in a few minutes we will see if ogogo gets his cheating musharraf kicked by northern ireland, fingers are crossed

o'Keane ahead at end of round 1

o'keane 12-3 ahead now, ogogo's musharraf is history

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Oct 2010 19:11

There was holding of the other guy by the Indian boxer. No doubt about it. But the other guy did was totally unacceptable. He faked falling down due to that. Like in football he must have been shown a red card and send out for faking the fall to gain points.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Oct 2010 19:13

You watching boxing? I'm watching gymnastics.
http://live.indiatimes.com/cwglive.cms

Soni kudis. One kudi is crying because she dropped the ball. The others are spinning around as usual.

SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 13 Oct 2010 19:32

England close in on another Gold. Squash doubles beating the Aussies. Aussie player is injured.

SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 13 Oct 2010 19:36

Gold for England in Boxing 91Kg catagory beating Northern Ireland.

SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 13 Oct 2010 19:52

Squash doubles Gold goes to England

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Oct 2010 19:54

o keane thanks indian crowd for support!

SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 13 Oct 2010 19:55

Samota Paramjeet in the ring now against Trinidad & Tobago boxer

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Oct 2010 20:06

how are malaysia and indonesia in badminton these days? have they sent their a-team here?

in 80s and 90s, folks like liem swie king and susi susanti of indonesia and icuk sugiarto and ardy wiranata of malay were household names.

SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 13 Oct 2010 20:08

Samota wins Gold for India

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Oct 2010 20:11

the medals tallies are not keeping up... england just won a couple, i reckon we're one behind now...

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 13 Oct 2010 20:13

Indonesia is not a member of the Commonwealth; they were a Dutch colony. Malaysia have men's world #1 Lee Chong Wei.

The gold medal count is right down to the wire now. India 36 golds, England 35. Too bad both Tejaswini Sawant (reigning world champ) and Gagan Narang failed to perform in shooting on the last day. We have two more gold hopes in badminton (women's singles and doubles), and the hope for a miracle in men's hockey.

Interesting change in perspective - anything less than gold is now a big disappointment. What a heady feeling.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 13 Oct 2010 20:16

Suraj wrote:Interesting change in perspective - anything less than gold is now a big disappointment.

Sir,
It's worse than what you describe... Gagan Narang won only 4 golds... Didn't win his 5th. Big disappointment there.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Oct 2010 20:17

damn! we are SDRe onlee, we are going to looooose onleeee!
aiyo!

ndtv showing india = 36, england = 36

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 13 Oct 2010 20:23

rgsrini wrote:
Suraj wrote:Interesting change in perspective - anything less than gold is now a big disappointment.
Sir,
It's worse than what you describe... Gagan Narang won only 4 golds... Didn't win his 5th. Big disappointment there.

Hasn't he got one more shot at the gold?

Hope he makes it.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 13 Oct 2010 20:24

I have resolved the mystery why countries in economic troubles like spain are producing great fighters in many sports. during the boom cycles some kids grow up in a good system and during the bust cycle they attain their peak level and start delivering medals. today olympic champ has a 10 yr cycle of world class training under the belt...they are not produced overnight.

this cwg we are reaping the investments made maybe 5-10 yrs ago.

Gagan narang has 50m prone rifle to go.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 13 Oct 2010 20:25

Whoops, it seems the English have 36 golds, same as us. So we're down to #3 again. I hope one or more of them tests positive

Narang was originally shooting for 6 golds. He was undone by his sick partner (Hari Om Singh) in event #5, where his individual total was far above everyone else's scores, but his partner was ordinary. Apparently they avoided administering medicines in fear of a positive dope test. I don't know what happened to him in event #6 (50m prone) - looks like he had a real off day, since he finished so far down. Sawant gave some excuse about not training enough, she won her world title just a month ago.

Oh well. I hope they all do well at Guangzhou 2010 and subsequently at London 2012, which is what really counts. Within the decade, I hope we can actively challenge SoKo and Japan for #2 slot in the Asian Games tally. The CWG is a kiddie pool for us now.

SureshP · Post by **SureshP** » 13 Oct 2010 20:27

Deleted. Cause I was watching a review of Lawn bowls.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 13 Oct 2010 20:36

Lalmohan wrote:o keane thanks indian crowd for support!

Yo TFTA lurkers, it pays to be on India's side. Congrats O'Keane.

Meanwhile:

Paramjeet wins the gold in the super heavyweight boxing category 5-1 (points) against Trinidad&Tobago.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 13 Oct 2010 20:38

well, we are nearing 100, I don't think we can make it now can we ? there are only 3 more assured medals ? still, it's a HUGE progress that we have almost doubled our tally from last time.

someone was comparing olympics ranking with CWG. why those kind of analysis does not work is brought out by a simple statistic. UK usually finishes over aus in olympics, while it's the reverse situation by a big margin in CWG.

to get a first 20 finish in olympics all you need is 3-4 golds. by the way which we are moving that's doesn't look too far.

coming to lawn balls, the english commentators were gushing about the talent of the Indian players, most of whom haven't completed 1 year of the game and yet gave stiff fight to most opponents and even got a couple of major upsets.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Oct 2010 20:43

england competes as GB at olympics, so you have to factor in the scottish, welsh and irish medals too (plus isle of man!), and also they are understrength here, whilst aussies are mostly here.

india is definitely rising as a sporting nation

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 13 Oct 2010 20:46

Official site showing UKstan at 37 and India at 36 golds.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 13 Oct 2010 20:49

Fantasy scenario: India pips England to the post Thursday and finishes #2. At the games closing ceremony, after handing over the baton to the organisers of Glasgow 2014, India announces that once all the athletes have departed Delhi, it is formally leaving the Commonwealth entirely, and will no longer participate in any future CWG

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Oct 2010 20:53

well... as per my original hypothesis, almost all the non-gora nations are greatful to desh for organising the games and persevering through the media onslaught. the 'INDIAN COMMONWEALTH of former English speaking nations' still has a lot of mileage

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 13 Oct 2010 21:05

Suraj wrote:Fantasy scenario: India pips England to the post Thursday and finishes #2. At the games closing ceremony, after handing over the baton to the organisers of Glasgow 2014, India announces that once all the athletes have departed Delhi, it is formally leaving the Commonwealth entirely, and will no longer participate in any future CWG

I agree with you.

But we must permanently send them kalmadi and gang for inspiration.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Oct 2010 21:10

^^^U.Kstan got talent in those areas. India will not be able to beat the likes of Mili.

Fidel Guevara · Post by **Fidel Guevara** » 13 Oct 2010 21:15

Suraj wrote:Fantasy scenario: India pips England to the post Thursday and finishes #2. At the games closing ceremony, after handing over the baton to the organisers of Glasgow 2014, India announces that once all the athletes have departed Delhi, it is formally leaving the Commonwealth entirely, and will no longer participate in any future CWG

Why leave the CW when this is actually a great opportunity to find molehills in Glasgow and make them into mountains. Have a few hundred mediapersons all over every slum in Glasgow and nearby areas and have detailed photo-essays about the "underprivileged poor". Maybe have Ambani or Mittal shell out a few million $ to help the needy people of Glasgow, and publicize the good work being done... the list is endless!

Also, within the CW level of competition India has clearly found its stride, and is far from proving its mettle at the Olympics. Just like athletes have rigorous practice days and light practice days, India should have the morale-boosting CWG two years before the REAL event...the CWG will identify the gaps and opportunities for the next two years of focus.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 13 Oct 2010 21:17

Lalmulahh bin komenwelthee..... Eye dekho vu are bery bery much active an khel-kud dhaga. Is it open meat that attracts ju

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Oct 2010 21:20

^^^ haven;t been the same since i first saw midriff/stomach of swedish high jumping motorham phew saals ago...

meanwhile... from bbc live coverage:

From AussieinExile: "I have been only once to India and enjoyed it. I really like the fact they've been able to get sports facilities and encourage Indians (men and women) in sports other than cricket and hockey. I hope with all the facilities built that it can be a stepping stone for hosting the Olympics in South Asia. Having seen several CWG, the teething problems are really small and too many people have made too much out of what has been wonderful Games. I am sure it will be held in good stead when bidding for the 2020 summer games. Everything starts with small steps..."

Fidel Guevara · Post by **Fidel Guevara** » 13 Oct 2010 21:27

Lalmohan wrote:
From AussieinExile: "I have been only once to India and enjoyed it. I really like the fact they've been able to get sports facilities and encourage Indians (men and women) in sports other than cricket and hockey. I hope with all the facilities built that it can be a stepping stone for hosting the Olympics in South Asia. Having seen several CWG, the teething problems are really small and too many people have made too much out of what has been wonderful Games. I am sure it will be held in good stead when bidding for the 2020 summer games. Everything starts with small steps..."

Unbelievable, this cannot be an Aussie! All Aussies are racist arrogant violent drunken louts!

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 13 Oct 2010 21:34

diyar rsinghji al khel-kudi
Bergqvist

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 13 Oct 2010 21:54

Fidel Guevara wrote:Unbelievable, this cannot be an Aussie! All Aussies are racist arrogant violent drunken louts!

Okay, isn't that taking jingoism to high levels? Come on, man....

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 13 Oct 2010 22:01

Just want to make sure that this gets enough publicity and all of us are well informed...
Brasa hits back after England cry foul

England's Whining...

Following the second semi-final, which India [ Images ] won 5-4 via the tie-breaker after the teams were locked 3-3 at the end of full-time and extra-time, England contested that two of India's goals, including the one scored by Arjun Halappa in the tie-breaker, were illegal.

Indian Coach's response...

India's coach hit back immediately, claiming that all three goals England scored in the match during in regulation time, through penalty-corners, were 'illegal'.

"Not one of the English short corner goals was legal," Brasa declared.

"You analyse the video and you will find some mistakes that are not in the rules or against the rules in the English goals."

Brasa then explained in detail why he believes England did not deserve all the three goals scored from the penalty-corners.

"The first short corner goal of the English team came 10 seconds from the end. It was 10 seconds for the half to end and they took the free-hit out of the position. They didn't take the free-hit from the right position where it was given because they were in a hurry to get something in the 10 seconds before the end of the first half. Therefore, the umpires should have disallowed and repeated the free-hit from the right position.

"If the umpire would have repeated the free-hit from the right position the 10 seconds would have gone. Therefore, the first short corner of the English team, we can say just watching with the lens, that it was not a short corner."

The second goal is not in accordance with the laws, he asserted.

"The second short corner of the English was a foul that was outside of the 25-yard circle. We were discussing with the umpire that it was outside the 25, but the umpire gave it as a short corner and the foul we saw in the video of the Indian defender outside the 25-yard circle and from there it is impossible to get a short corner," the Spaniard said.

"The third one, Mantell did obstruction and let the ball pass between the legs and get to the third player, who scored. We watched see and look for umpiring with the lens and video we found a lot of mistakes but these three are very clear," he added.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 13 Oct 2010 22:04

peepul, correct me if I'm wrong, we are going to get a total medal tally of 101.

pretty good !
swamy saar, it's the opposite methinks.

archan · Post by **archan** » 13 Oct 2010 23:00

Fidel Guevara wrote:
From AussieinExile: "I have been only once to India and enjoyed it. I really like the fact they've been able to get sports facilities and encourage Indians (men and women) in sports other than cricket and hockey. I hope with all the facilities built that it can be a stepping stone for hosting the Olympics in South Asia. Having seen several CWG, the teething problems are really small and too many people have made too much out of what has been wonderful Games. I am sure it will be held in good stead when bidding for the 2020 summer games. Everything starts with small steps..."
Unbelievable, this cannot be an Aussie! All Aussies are racist arrogant violent drunken louts!

Which is why he is in exile!

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 13 Oct 2010 23:06

Predator strike in CWG dhaga too?

There is no sovirginity at all these days.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 13 Oct 2010 23:12

The CWG does not provide us much preparation for the Olympics. The Asian Games are held in the same year as CWG , and are a much better gauge of our capabilties in all our strong suits due to vastly higher competition standard:

* Archery - South Korea sets the standard, along with other strong teams like China.
* Boxing - SoKo, China, Thailand, CIS states
* Shooting - China
* Wrestling - Mongolia, middle east, CIS states
* Weightlifting - middle east, CIS states, China, SoKo, Japan
* Athletics - middle east, China, SoKo, Japan

We will just flatter ourselves in CWG and not peak at AG, which in turn hamper us when the Olympics come around.

While my earlier fantasy scenario was just that, I feel that a decade down the line, the CWG and the commonwealth itself will become increasingly irrelevant, partly driven by India's apathy at having been unjustly criticized for a great CWG2010. India simply has very little sense of belonging in this organization anymore; the whole sordid drain inspection saga of CWG2010 just underlined the extent of hostility from the cushy white man's club that runs this organization.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 13 Oct 2010 23:21

RahulM wrote:peepul, correct me if I'm wrong, we are going to get a total medal tally of 101.

I can only think of 4 assured medals tomorrow.
1. Saina Nehwal
2. Jwala G/Ashwini
3. Indian Hockey team
4. Kamal Vs Roy all-Indian TT Bronze match
These 4 are guaranteed to take us to 100.

I know that Ghatak/Roy are playing TT Womens Doubles Bronze match tomorrow. I am not sure who the opposition is. Is that an all-Indian affair too?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 13 Oct 2010 23:22

Suraj saar: India could to a take over like it has done in the area of cricket