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In the Rajya Sabha, PM Modi calls Netaji Shubash Chandra Bose the first PM

Cyrano wrote:^^^That is because in daily life, business, governance or even politics, Indians do not see Sikhs as fundamentally different to themselves. Sikhs are Indians, they are turban wearing (for very specific reasons) Hindus. They carry strong regional linguistic and cultural uniqueness, with unique as well as common history, just like many other communities from various parts of India. I believe most Sikhs see themselves this way as well. Stating this is in these words is no way amounts to diminishing Sikhs or minimising their talents and contributions to India.

There is nothing to tolerate or accept, they are us, and part of us is in them.

Those who portray Sihks as a "minority" are playing cheap and divisive identity politics. By giving examples like above, we are just implicitly accepting their identity division.We should ask them to prove their point by stating their arguments of separate identity and examples of alleged discrimination instead of accepting their "Sikhs are a minority" premise and then offering counter examples to defensively justify that we are tolerant, accepting etc.

JMT.

Sikhs are Indians, they are turban wearing (for very specific reasons) Hindus.

Meena Harris@meenaharris·Feb 6

This isn't just about agricultural policy. It's also about the persecution of a vocal religious minority. It's police violence, militant nationalism, and attacks on labor rights. It's global authoritarianism. Don't tell me to stay out of your affairs. These are all of our issues.

chetak wrote:regarding some minority aholes from kaneda, britshit and the US wailing about discrimination and persecution in India, here is the reality

would/could this have happened anywhere else in the world

is there another "majority" anywhere in the world that would have shown the same wholehearted tolerance, acceptance and held them in the same high regard and so openly acknowledged them as their very own

and yet, the Hindus are the facists.

Last 10 years India...

A Sikh Prime Minister (Manmohan Singh)

A Sikh Army chief (Gen Bikram Singh)

A Sikh Airforce chief (ACM B S Dhanoa)

A Sikh chief justice of India (Jagdish Singh Khehar)

ArjunPandit wrote:

chetak wrote:regarding some minority aholes from kaneda, britshit and the US wailing about discrimination and persecution in India, here is the reality

would/could this have happened anywhere else in the world

is there another "majority" anywhere in the world that would have shown the same wholehearted tolerance, acceptance and held them in the same high regard and so openly acknowledged them as their very own

and yet, the Hindus are the facists.

why limit to last 10 years sir? Gyani Jail singh was President. In contrast to paxtan where even a sikh becoming a police officer in 2007..in hte same year a sikh became officer in paxtani army ..let that sink in ..one community didnt manage to get in army and police officer posts in 60 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism_in_Pakistan

Cyrano wrote:BJP/RSS should appreciate Meena Harris Indian roots, her genuine concern for India and invite her to come join them, since they are also fighting the same issues, violence, anti-nationalism, labour rights (including farm labour) and a lot more.

Cyrano wrote:"Nationalistic" is a bad adjective only when viewed from an ex-colonialist and WW-II perspective. Its a very positive and necessary quality from an ex-colonised people's perspective.

Don't have to let the west always (re)define the terms and with it, the narrative.

Arrey Meena ansi hai, waisi hai to kya hua Chetak ji, we should invite her and the likes (who matter, due to position or connections), and take her to some RSS seva activities, sabhas, and make a documentary-report of the interactions & her discovery phase. It may change her view or will atleast make it very hard to spin lies later. Some of such experiments may not work, but many will work, because these Orgs are fundamentally not what they are demonised to be.

Opening and inviting in critics is one of the ways conversion cultures operate. They see a potential convert everywhere, even and importantly among vehement critics.

By simply pushing back and reply name calling we are missing a trick or two.

chetak wrote:

Cyrano wrote:BJP/RSS should appreciate Meena Harris Indian roots, her genuine concern for India and invite her to come join them, since they are also fighting the same issues, violence, anti-nationalism, labour rights (including farm labour) and a lot more.

meena harris is a third generation "black baptist", and she has the very same poisonous 'Indian" roots like muhammad ali jinnah and the very same sickular ideas on the partition of India.

she has been paid off to tweet and supports the khalistanis

and, BTW, the RSS is as nationalistic as they come, bar none.

Cyrano wrote:"Nationalistic" is a bad adjective only when viewed from an ex-colonialist and WW-II perspective. Its a very positive and necessary quality from an ex-colonised people's perspective.

Don't have to let the west always (re)define the terms and with it, the narrative.

Arrey Meena ansi hai, waisi hai to kya hua Chetak ji, we should invite her and the likes (who matter, due to position or connections), and take her to some RSS seva activities, sabhas, and make a documentary-report of the interactions & her discovery phase. It may change her view or will atleast make it very hard to spin lies later. Some of such experiments may not work, but many will work, because these Orgs are fundamentally not what they are demonised to be.

Opening and inviting in critics is one of the ways conversion cultures operate. They see a potential convert everywhere, even and importantly among vehement critics.

By simply pushing back and reply name calling we are missing a trick or two.

Congress fields 25 Muslim candidates in AMC elections; AIMIM fields 21 Muslims
https://www.deshgujarat.com/2021/02/07/ ... 1-muslims/
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Hyderabad based Asaduddin Owaisi’s party AIMIM has fielded 21 candidates from 6 wards in Ahmedabad including 2 former women councilors of Congress party. The wards in which AIMIM has fielded candidates include Jamalpur, Khadia, Baherampura, Gomtipur, Dariyapur and Maktampura. AIMIM has not fielded candidates in Danilimda ward, apparently in support of Congress candidate Shahnawaz Khan.

madhu wrote:I have a simple question... How is that GOI could not ban 250 twitter account of hate india accounts but just an IPS officer can D. Roopa can ban truendology just coz he gave proof of deepavali?

ArjunPandit wrote:

Cyrano wrote:"Nationalistic" is a bad adjective only when viewed from an ex-colonialist and WW-II perspective. Its a very positive and necessary quality from an ex-colonised people's perspective.

Don't have to let the west always (re)define the terms and with it, the narrative.

Arrey Meena ansi hai, waisi hai to kya hua Chetak ji, we should invite her and the likes (who matter, due to position or connections), and take her to some RSS seva activities, sabhas, and make a documentary-report of the interactions & her discovery phase. It may change her view or will atleast make it very hard to spin lies later. Some of such experiments may not work, but many will work, because these Orgs are fundamentally not what they are demonised to be.

Opening and inviting in critics is one of the ways conversion cultures operate. They see a potential convert everywhere, even and importantly among vehement critics.

By simply pushing back and reply name calling we are missing a trick or two.

invite her for what? chai biskoot? not sure if you have ever interacted with any SJW. If you think you can change their minds, I have Tower Bridge and London bridges to sell, with Tajmahal as add on. You are right in their assessment that they see a convert everywhere, but i think engaging with them at best is waste of our times. We are better off nurturing more important resources than her. She's not in power and she'll play to radical left gallery. Best to engage with state dept and defence department. Schmooze them rather than her who is the rakhi sawant of politics

chetak wrote:

ArjunPandit wrote: ...

these are celebrities who work day jobs at being amoral mercenaries, like a thugberg or a malala
it's seldom the ideology, and oftentimes the only thing that drives them bhaya, is the subse bada rupiah

The Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology and many of its organisations have moved to Koo, a Made-in-India alternative to micro blogging platform Twitter. The ban is coming.

ArjunPandit wrote:enough of verification ban by twitter, i am going there..hope there are nukkads..i like the hindi support

chetak wrote:..

Ambar wrote:

ArjunPandit wrote:enough of verification ban by twitter, i am going there..hope there are nukkads..i like the hindi support

Twitter blocked me for no reason and now want my phone number ! I have <100 followers and i rarely if ever tweet/retweet, i hope they get a taste of their own medicine and get banned from India. With what happened to Parler in the US, we have a solid justification to ban Twitter on the same grounds.

Bharat Ratna Indira Gandhi: investigated for the Emergency.

Bharat Ratna Rajiv Gandhi: investigated for the Bofors Scam.

Bharat Ratna Lata Mangeshkar and Bharat Ratna Sachin Tendulkar: investigated for pro-India tweets.

Ambar wrote:

ArjunPandit wrote:enough of verification ban by twitter, i am going there..hope there are nukkads..i like the hindi support

Twitter blocked me for no reason and now want my phone number ! I have <100 followers and i rarely if ever tweet/retweet, i hope they get a taste of their own medicine and get banned from India. With what happened to Parler in the US, we have a solid justification to ban Twitter on the same grounds.

AshishA wrote:Can anyone tell out why maha govt is acting in such manner especially when they are supposed to have a good relations with cricketers and Lata?

Isn't it supposed to be a PR disaster considering both of these guys have lots of fans?

So what is driving them to use intimidation and bullying tactics with impunity? Feels as if they have no fear of anything?

Sorry to say but unless this unholy alliance is broken they have a good chance of coming back to power. Like kejru came.

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/solapur-s ... -thackeray
A local BJP leader in Solapur named Shirish Katekar was assaulted by Shiv Sena workers following his speech criticising their supremo Uddhav Thackeray, Hindustan Times has reported.

This attack came after Katekar had said in a speech that Thackeray is unfit to rule the state. The enraged Shiv Sainiks then caught Katekar on Solapur's streets, poured black ink on his face and started parading him on the streets.
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AshishA wrote:Can anyone tell out why maha govt is acting in such manner especially when they are supposed to have a good relations with cricketers and Lata?

Isn't it supposed to be a PR disaster considering both of these guys have lots of fans?

So what is driving them to use intimidation and bullying tactics with impunity? Feels as if they have no fear of anything?

Sorry to say but unless this unholy alliance is broken they have a good chance of coming back to power. Like kejru came.