Bharat Rakshak

India and EU today announced the establishment of three Working Groups under the India-EU Trade and Technology Council. India-EU TTC was launched by PM Shri Modi.and President of the EU_Commission Ms vonderleyen in 2022.

Press Release:

The India-EU TTC is a strategic coordination mechanism that will allow both partners to tackle challenges at the confluence of trade, trusted technology and security, and deepen cooperation in these fields. This is the first TTC for India, and the 2nd for the EU.
The three Working Groups of India-EU TTC are:

1. Strategic Technologies, Digital Governance and Digital Connectivity

2. Green and Clean Energy Technologies

3. Trade, Investment and Resilient Value Chains
The working groups will have their first meeting shortly.

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Is this to slow down their entry into NATO?

So, does this mean that the EU, on their own, have aspirations for membership of the security council, despite having two gora members from the same geo located space

there seems to a rapidly building discord of views with respect to china and the ukr imbroglio, especially with the goose stepping germans getting all confused internally and showing signs of breaking away from the common and set agenda

mind you, many of these (EU) are nuke weapon capable states that are just a few screwdriver turns away from fully weaponizing, just like japan and israel, and most are tired (and wary) of being a part of the ameriki controlled dog and pony NATO show

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French President #EmmanuelMacron has caused a stir by saying Europe has no interest in accelerating the conflict in Taiwan and should become a "third pole" independent of both Washington and Beijing

I have hard time believing Macron. He has said everything and its opposite with a glib tongue and our MSM hardly take him on, even most opposition gets side tracked and focuses on irrelevant details. He has said absurd things like NATO is brain dead, France sharing UNSC seat with Germany, not insulting Russia by inflicting an all out defeat, he does all the Fr govt wok single-handedly and so on. One day he is anti China, but is happy to grovel in front of the Ximperor, puffed up by cheering crowds brought in by CCP where as his own people may slap him yet again... and then the next day a Washington wedgie will have him sing for freedom and democracy. He has destroyed French diplomatic corps and has wrecked relations with African countries. Has pissed off the entire country with the retirement reforms by using special provision to enact as law bypassing parliamentary voting after months of debates. He has lost it. Hope he doesnt do too much damage in the remaining 3+ years of his mandate.

India, EU trade & technology council meet in Brussels underway:

^^^ Only as EAM can say:

"Look at EU council regulations, Russian crude is substantially transformed in 3rd country & not treated as Russian",

Brilliant response from EAM Jaishankar \ to EU Foreign policy chief Borrell's remarks calling for action against Indian refined products from Russian crude.. Left them speechless..
(Would be interesting to see how all this is covered in the media but actual presser is quite impressive).

Cyrano wrote:I have hard time believing Macron. He has said everything and its opposite with a glib tongue and our MSM hardly take him on, even most opposition gets side tracked and focuses on irrelevant details. He has said absurd things like NATO is brain dead, France sharing UNSC seat with Germany, not insulting Russia by inflicting an all out defeat, he does all the Fr govt wok single-handedly and so on. One day he is anti China, but is happy to grovel in front of the Ximperor, puffed up by cheering crowds brought in by CCP where as his own people may slap him yet again... and then the next day a Washington wedgie will have him sing for freedom and democracy. He has destroyed French diplomatic corps and has wrecked relations with African countries. Has pissed off the entire country with the retirement reforms by using special provision to enact as law bypassing parliamentary voting after months of debates. He has lost it. Hope he doesnt do too much damage in the remaining 3+ years of his mandate.

Cyrano ji,

France is widely seen in India as a staunch India supporter.

Also, as one of the very few who will not be cowed down by the amrikis and will not be coerced into targeting India on any forum

That's why Macron has such an easy time here

France is in many geopolitical corners where she is simultaneously supporting many strategic players for varied reasons but importantly, she is also firmly in India's corner whenever needed.

She has been with India for decades. It is the odd french president who may be somewhat indifferent to India but a majority of them go out of their way to address India's concerns, and while that perspective may, or may not be completely true, it is undoubtedly the current and also the most widely held perception among the aam janatha

https://twitter.com/samramani2/status/1 ... k6bP7UUGYQ

EU pledges to crackdown on Indian resale of Russian oil (Eu & UK is the largest buyer what about that?)

^^^It was quite amusing.. how all this 'pledges' lost the thunder ..
Few items: per ..US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen .. not too long ago:

The US is happy for India to continue buying as much Russian oil as it wants.
Russian oil "is going to be selling at bargain prices and we're happy to have India get that bargain or Africa or China. It's fine"

EAM's response was priceless: (see the video clip !!!!

"Look at EU council regulations, Russian crude is substantially transformed in 3rd country & not treated as Russian",{ to chief Borrell's remarks calling for action against Indian refined products from Russian crude}

Jaishankar schools EU for warning India over Russian oil re-sale; 'Check regulation...'
Indian Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar takes on the European Union's criticism for refining and exporting Russian crude. EU FM Josep Borrell had urged a crackdown on India’s refined fuel products made with Russian oil, calling it a circumvention of US-led Western sanctions on Moscow while speaking to the Financial Times. Jaishankar advised him to look at EU Council regulations that disallow such action.


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Gautam

People who have the power to make regulations. They also have the power to change them.

The question is, are the stupid Europeans going to impose sanctions on India.

I have not seen the interview by Mr. Borrell in the Financial Times. Does anyone have it?
Borrell urges EU to crack down on imports of Indian fuels made with Russian oil
17 May 2023 - 06:39
AKANKSHA KHUSHI, 17 May 2023
The European Union should crack down on India reselling Russian oil into Europe as refined fuels including diesel, the EU's high representative for foreign policy, Josep Borrell, said in an interview with the Financial Times.
India has in the past year emerged as a top buyer of Russian oil, which has been rejected by Western nations amid sanctions against Russia for its invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.
Access to cheap Russian crude has boosted output and profits at Indian refineries, enabling them to export refined products competitively to Europe and take bigger market share.
“If diesel or gasoline is entering Europe coming from India and being produced with Russian oil, that is certainly a circumvention of sanctions and member states have to take measures,” the bloc's chief diplomat said.
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Gautam

EU has very little of the refining capacity left to meet even a fraction of its needs, green activists and EU regulations wont allow new refineries to be built, and even if EU started now, it will take years or decades to make a difference.

The EU can of course change its regulations and ban even indirect use of Russian oil in the form of transformed products. No problem, India will sell its refined products elsewhere in the world, there is a big demand for that. But the impact on EU will be catastrophic because prices at the pump will skyrocket in the EU and kill any chances of economic revival. They will become utterly dependent on US supply and pay through their snooty noses.

Pratyush wrote:People who have the power to make regulations. They also have the power to change them.

The question is, are the stupid Europeans going to impose sanctions on India.

they seem to be itching to pick a fight

but they don't have the testimonials to impose sanctions

BTW, uk, eu are among the largest buyers and consumers of russian oil derivatives from India

EU is ridden with woke press and activist pressures. Borrel carries no weight with India, we give no real weight to EU high rollers like Borrel, van Der Lying, Mitchell, Lagarde etc. and lot of heartburn comes from that and manifests like this. This is Borrels tantrum seeking some attention from the representatives of the jungle outside coming to visit his garden.

Cyrano wrote:EU is ridden with woke press and activist pressures. Borrel carries no weight with India, we give no real weight to EU high rollers like Borrel, van Der Lying, Mitchell, Lagarde etc. and lot of heartburn comes from that and manifests like this. This is Borrels tantrum seeking some attention from the representatives of the jungle outside coming to visit his garden.

Cyrano ji,

Jaishankar's very pointed commentary:

'Somewhere Europe has to grow out of the mindset that Europe’s problems are the world’s problems but the world’s problems are not Europe’s problems. That if it is you, it’s yours, if it is me it is ours. I see reflections of that.'

seems to have hit home squarely and also very painfully.

Jaishankar said Europe was also silent on many developments in Asia.

“If I were to take Europe collectively which has been singularly silent on many things which were happening, for example in Asia, you could ask why would anybody in Asia trust Europe on anything at all,”

The fact that the natives are no longer kissing the hems of their erstwhile colonial masters' ermine robes is a fact that bothers them deeply because it shows them their true aukat and not to mention the fact that the said colonial masters were also far more vicious and racially depraved than hitler ever was, in committing genocides under a very convenient, and self serving papal bull called "the doctrine of discovery"

Colonial looting and pillage have raised their once grubby standards of living, built their infrastructures, paid for their two world wars and they had gotten addicted to that extractive and exploitative way of life

their snooty museums are filled with stolen art, priceless national treasures, and historic artifacts of great cultural significance to other cultures, all mercilessly purloined during their colonial sojourns and "civilizing" endeavors to uplift the uncultured natives and godless heathens

Borrell urges EU to crack down on imports of Indian fuels made with Russian oil
17 May 2023

Borrell - a total gasbag - notorious for saying something to the effect "Europe is a "garden" surrounded by "Jungle" (people outside) etc... (Europeans are civilized and have nice europe but outside people are not equal etc)..was put on his place by a comment " Yes, it became a garden but don't forget only by plundering the jungle "..

Cyrano wrote:EU is ridden with woke press and activist pressures. Borrel carries no weight with India, we give no real weight to EU high rollers like Borrel, van Der Lying, Mitchell, Lagarde etc. and lot of heartburn comes from that and manifests like this. This is Borrels tantrum seeking some attention from the representatives of the jungle outside coming to visit his garden.

Agree, I urge the people to watch the entire presser instead of just sound bites focusing on Russian oil, which appeared conveniently placed to distract the conversation or perhaps uncle sympathizers wanting to damage EU-India relations. Yes, there is ton of past baggage and Borrell's garden isn't quite pretty. No one gives a sh!t to EU's threats, let alone sweat about their capacity to implement anything. There are fewer markets for EU to sell its excess output, and EU is a good partner for India on the tech front....all that russian crude/refined product stuff is distraction. EU needs the refined oil products and they know it very well. Not sure if Borrell was speaking his mind or trying to say something to placate transatlantic audience. I paid close attention to how EAM pulled correct response from his notes, quoting the policy code and EU minister's response... Rajeev Chandrasekhar is veshti was the best.

India Stands Up To Oil Bullying | Jaishankar's Straight Talk | NewsX
Minister of External Affairs Dr Jaishankar has lashed out at the Vice President of the European Commission Josep Borrell over his recent comments where he called out India's sales of refined oil products to Europe derived off the cheap crude oil India is buying from Russia. The EAM hit back at a press breifing after the first EU-India TTC Ministerial which was also attended by Borrell.

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Gautam

chetak wrote:

Cyrano wrote:I have hard time believing Macron. He has said everything and its opposite with a glib tongue and our MSM hardly take him on, even most opposition gets side tracked and focuses on irrelevant details. He has said absurd things like NATO is brain dead, France sharing UNSC seat with Germany, not insulting Russia by inflicting an all out defeat, he does all the Fr govt wok single-handedly and so on. One day he is anti China, but is happy to grovel in front of the Ximperor, puffed up by cheering crowds brought in by CCP where as his own people may slap him yet again... and then the next day a Washington wedgie will have him sing for freedom and democracy. He has destroyed French diplomatic corps and has wrecked relations with African countries. Has pissed off the entire country with the retirement reforms by using special provision to enact as law bypassing parliamentary voting after months of debates. He has lost it. Hope he doesnt do too much damage in the remaining 3+ years of his mandate.

Cyrano ji,

France is widely seen in India as a staunch India supporter.

Also, as one of the very few who will not be cowed down by the amrikis and will not be coerced into targeting India on any forum

That's why Macron has such an easy time here

France is in many geopolitical corners where she is simultaneously supporting many strategic players for varied reasons but importantly, she is also firmly in India's corner whenever needed.

She has been with India for decades. It is the odd french president who may be somewhat indifferent to India but a majority of them go out of their way to address India's concerns, and while that perspective may, or may not be completely true, it is undoubtedly the current and also the most widely held perception among the aam janatha

Chetak ji, sorry to differ.

France is the main adversary of India all the toolkits and other ideas are coming mainly from France for BIF.

They have well read the Indians and convinced that revival of sanatana would be detrimental to their interests in India and it is very easy to break India using its own fault lines. They don’t want India to have great Scientists and Engineers. They want India to be perpetually dependent on France for Rafales. They don’t mind software coolies from India but can’t tolerate a “Nambi Narayanan” or APJ AK.

TKiran,
Really? I'd be very interested to see any supporting arguments or facts behind your assertion. Thanks.

TKiran wrote:

chetak wrote:
Cyrano ji,

France is widely seen in India as a staunch India supporter.

Also, as one of the very few who will not be cowed down by the amrikis and will not be coerced into targeting India on any forum

That's why Macron has such an easy time here

France is in many geopolitical corners where she is simultaneously supporting many strategic players for varied reasons but importantly, she is also firmly in India's corner whenever needed.

She has been with India for decades. It is the odd french president who may be somewhat indifferent to India but a majority of them go out of their way to address India's concerns, and while that perspective may, or may not be completely true, it is undoubtedly the current and also the most widely held perception among the aam janatha

Chetak ji, sorry to differ.

France is the main adversary of India all the toolkits and other ideas are coming mainly from France for BIF.

They have well read the Indians and convinced that revival of sanatana would be detrimental to their interests in India and it is very easy to break India using its own fault lines. They don’t want India to have great Scientists and Engineers. They want India to be perpetually dependent on France for Rafales. They don’t mind software coolies from India but can’t tolerate a “Nambi Narayanan” or APJ AK.

TKiran ji,

the french commies are notorious and all commies have an itch to scratch with India because their commie pals have been wiped out in India

The french are undeniably racist but then they have dependably and reliably stuck by us on a long term basis, and all this for a very good price. The frenchies would profit off their own mothers, it is a national trait of their culture

But any enemy of the britshits is a friend of france

Actually when Rajiv Malhotra was trying to understand the origins of toolkits he got into this that France was the original culprit (theega laagithe donka kadilindi)

Cyrano ji, in one of the interviews Ms Vijaya Viswanathan spilled beans that France is the origin of many BIF activities that have been successful. Not able to search correctly. I will put the YouTube video for your reference as soon as I get it. It is there somewhere.

TKiran wrote:Actually when Rajiv Malhotra was trying to understand the origins of toolkits he got into this that France was the original culprit (theega laagithe donka kadilindi)

TKiran ji,

toolkits will continue and they will not stop anytime soon but france is just one among the many countries doing this. Just accept and move beyond. A lot of the frenchies are very commie pasand and that automatically means anti Hindu

their alliance française setups haven't made jackschitt of a difference in India except in a very very limited circle. They can't really do anything to us

A small but vocal section of their society is anti Indian, just like a small and vocal section in India is very paki pasand. They take the false propaganda fed to them very seriously, and many believe that crap, but most frenchies don't seem to care, one way or the other. soros type ideas seem to have a fairly good following in france

many french are khattarpanthi catholics, who have heard many stories of missionaries not being allowed a free rein in India, and so they react accordingly. But very surprisingly, their own churches are almost always empty.

Out of idiosyncrasy, one has explored many of the old churches and the padres were curious to see us visit. They were proud to show us the old buildings and explain the history in broken english.

When the frenchies come to India, they are always amazed to see how full the Indian churches are, and the many prayer services conducted there almost everyday.

whether they admit it or not, a lot of them speak fairly good english, especially when they need something from you

I have met both @h0les and angels among the frenchies, and worked with them all. If you nip the racist thingie early in the day, they are not very different from our own truculent workplace champions.

Most are shocked that SDRE Indians can handle their technologies easily enough but, they were not very happy to see that our workarounds were far more effective and often more innovative than theirs

That was altogether in another life....

g.sarkar wrote:I have not seen the interview by Mr. Borrell in the Financial Times. Does anyone have it?

Gautam

https://archive.ph/8iFxy

It might work

As someone living in France for over two decades, I haven't seen the kattat catholic "half" you talk about, nor does evangelical zeal exist like you say.

Lot of leftist media nurtured misconceptions and colonial images of India still exist but that's not the same as serious engagement to influence India's politics through BIF involvement.

There could be a handful of people and brainless zealots like Jaffrelot directly supporting BIF narratives but that's about it. 99.99% of France is neutral to positive wrt India.

Lisa wrote:

g.sarkar wrote:I have not seen the interview by Mr. Borrell in the Financial Times. Does anyone have it?
Gautam

https://archive.ph/8iFxy
It might work

Praise be to Allah Almighty. Thank you Sirji.
Gautam

Funny why the EU can't stop buying instead of blaming the seller!

That's because picking on a foreign actor can be useful as a rallying cry to get their domestic house in order.

Looking at rags like Le Monde' oped from loser Jaffrelot - amusing to note the heart-burn.. (Link: <link>..

Meanwhile: The new Head of the Asia Department at the French Foreign Ministry, Amb. Benoît Guidée, chose India for his first foreign trip. Watch him speak on the preparation of PM Modi’s visit to Paris as Chief Guest of France’s National Day on July 14

And speaking of Germany ..
US Defence Secretary Austin and German Defence Minister Pistorius to visit India on June 6

Seeing the heartburn is - looking at some papers - really amusing.

Ha ha ha ! For Jaffre-lout betting his career on dissing India was the short sighted strategy !

French intelligentsia has reduced itself to caw caw crowing of stale commentary from its mouldy perch which no one listens to as the world passes them by. Ignore them, like I do despite being in France.

Germans making fun of India's population growth have formally announced economic recession in the fatherland. Karma..

It might be even funnier to compare the efficient German genocide to the ramshackle Rwandan one.

Next time the EU or any related gora organisations lecture us on our poor safety, processes etc:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65942426

Essentially, the sinking of the migrant ship was avoidable. Note that the true death toll will not be known as women and children were in the hold, no one knows how many. Some put it at 500.

By their own standards, this should have resulted in manslaughter charges being bought against the Greek coastguard for criminal neglect. Instead we have a cover up.

Unfortunate as this was, one country's citizens form the majority in this tragedy, any guess maulanas?

Modern ROV have the ability to operate at extreme depths. Investigators will be able to find out just how many people were in the hold.

Tanaji wrote:Next time the EU or any related gora organisations lecture us on our poor safety, processes etc:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65942426
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BBC (the britshit establishment), and probably the average white brit, don't consider the Greeks as goras... do we?